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Our number one need is a super bowl, period. But I think LT/OL is our biggest need. I can think of 230 million reasons to have the best online in the NFL next season. If we can't get and keep DW going and clean, we aren't going anywhere. DT, LB, and WR are our other glaring needs IMO. We also need to fix the run defense. The run D killed us this year.

The Bengals proved 2 years in a row you don't need a elite
Oline to get to the playoffs. But you do need playmakers
At TE and WR

I'm willing to put BIG money on that one. Wanna wager? And I want this one to be worth my while.




I don't believe that. Please provide a link. Btw----Baker Mayfield led the league in holding the ball the longest in our playoff year and it wasn't close.

I think he does hold the ball, but not out of indecision. He may hold the ball while waiting for a receiver to shake open.

Or while he tries to decipher a D since he hadn't done much of that in games for two years. Defenses evolve every year, I wouldn't be surprised if he saw some things he never saw before. The league has tape on him playing very well, I'm sure some of these teams have found his weaknesses and probably exploited that with DW not 100% up to speed.

I don't doubt there was some of that.

He held the ball too long this year. No doubt. I think that those predicting Watson continuing to struggle next year have an ulterior motive. I would be absolutely shocked if Watson plays poorly next year. I'm talking less than a 0.05% chance of that happening. The Baker fans want it to be so and continue to dog Watson on here, but I don't see it becoming reality.

j/c:

I don't care if it comes from the interior or the outside, but the defensive front needs more pass rushing ability outside of Garrett. That's my #1 need at this point.

Dear God man, what does any of this have to do with Baker? You're like a dog who has been hanging on to the same bone for almost a year now. I'll send a note to the chef to throw you a fresh one because you really need it. This one has gotten old and stanky.

I can show you what I think they're talking about but I think they may very well be taking it out of context.


And now back to your regularly scheduled Baker rant.......

Must be some salami

I had to go to the site and make sure... Looks like some really good salami. I'd go with the Calabrese.

What would you call poorly? If we don't make the playoffs? If a losing record can be attributed to him? This is an honest question. I expect us to make the playoffs for the investment and I think it's the least we should expect. But I'm also prepared to give him a pass if the coaching blows again next year. Or if we are injury-riddled. I just want a steady dose of elite QB play.

Being a Vol fan I was highly impressed with Hyatts production
In 2022. Especially against elite competition like schools
Like Alabama. If you play at a high level vs NFL caliber starters
At the college sometimes it gives a preview of things to come.
Hyatt has a extra gear to blow past CBs playing zone or man
When was the last time the Browns had a WR that could
Blow the top off a defense.?
You score 5 TDs vs Alabama and 15 for the year...that's not
A accident

I posted this on the Off season Upgrades thread. It's about some WRs that might be available when we draft. Hyatt is mentioned in that group.



The draft might be the way to go for a WR. It's a weaker class than the previous few years, bu there is talent that should be available to us. Here are a few guys.

Jalen Hyatt, Tennessee. Had a great season for the Volunteers. He had 67 receptions for 1,267 yards this season. That was 4th best overall. His 15 TDs tied for first overall. Won the Biletnikoff Award last week. Had over 200 yards and 5 TDs against Alabama. Extremely fast. Just runs by guys. Did not play against Man Press very much, so it is unknown if he will be able to run routes against better competition.

Jaxon Smith Najigba, The Ohio State University. Was a preseason Heisman candidate after leading the Buckeyes in catches and yards on a team that had first round picks, Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson. Was hurt almost all year and that will lead to his stock falling. Doesn't possess elite speed, but catches a lot of deep passes. Great hands, expert route runner. His game last year in the Rose Bowl was one of the best ever. Some say he will go in the first round. PFF has him slipping to the 2nd. He will probably work out of the slot.

Rome Odunze, Washington. Had a really good year. Tall at 6'3". Good speed down the field. Explosive after the catch. Strong hands. Sometimes, he catches the ball w/his body. Quick in tight spaces, but not a quick twitch athlete.

Not sure where I got the information. Might have been PFF????

The thing about is that going into the season
He wasn't the number 1 WR at UT...that was Cedric Tillman.
Hyatt and Bru McCoy were kinda 2 and 3 in Heupel's
Fastbreak offense. Hyatt really seized the moment
When Tillman got hurt.
He seized it and never let it go.
That tells me he has a work ethic and drive to succeed
Traits that separate good from average...good from great

I think Hyatt checks a lot of boxes. The unknown about him is probably two-fold. Can he beat Press Man and can he run routes. Due to Heuppel's Modified Spread offense, Hyatt was not asked to do either. He just lined up and ran past guys. That was a common theme on several reports. Not saying he can't do those things, but there is just not enough evidence. Had he done so, he would be a high first round pick.

The thing about Hyatt is that the Browns can draft
Him and he doesn't have to have that pressure of
Being " the man" in the passing offense.
He can come in learn all the WR spots on the field
His resume is better than Bells and Schwartz's.
Maybe the Browns will find a legit WRs coach also.

Hyatt would be a great value pick in RD 2
If a team like the Texans or Colts don't snag him
1st

And that's the one biggest thing fans need to keep in mind. The cream generally rises to the top. The cream will be gone. No matter who they draft in the second round there will be some questions that surround them. At that point you just have to sort out which ones remaining on the board have the fewest questions.

Watched some tape (not a whole lot out there that didn't spend most of the time showcasing his pitch-and-catch vs Alabama). This seems like a pretty fair scouting report as it echoes a lot that my eyes saw... I'm always concerned with WRs that look a bit too 'slight'. I'd like to see about ten pounds of muscle, it shouldn't affect speed too much. Dude gets to full speed pretty quickly and looks like he has good hands. There's a decent chance he'll be there at #43.


NFL Draft Profile: Jalin Hyatt, Wide Receiver, Tennessee Volunteers

Jalin Hyatt
Tennessee Volunteers
#11
Pos: WR
Ht: 6002
Wt: 175
DOB: 9/25/2001
Hometown: Irmo, SC
High School: Dutch Fork
Eligibility: 2023

One Liner:
Hyatt is an elite vertical threat who offers some upside on schemed touches, but he’s a lean slot receiver who runs a limited route tree in an unconventional offense with an underdeveloped release package.

Evaluation:
Hyatt possesses legitimate track speed and should run a 40-time in the high 4.2s or low 4.3s. He plays with excellent foot speed, which helps him set up cuts in his routes and win against press coverage. The junior offers instant burst off the line of scrimmage with lethal acceleration to stack defensive backs. His long strides and explosiveness help him quickly eliminate the defensive back’s cushion when he faces off coverage. Hyatt puts in effort blocking for wide receiver screens and run plays, but his lack of play strength prevents him from excelling in this role. Fortunately, there’s room to add mass to Hyatt’s frame, assuming it doesn’t sap his explosiveness.

He appears to have sufficient arm length to expand his catch radius and make receptions outside of his frame. Some of Hyatt’s best wins come on post, curl, sluggo, and go routes. He tracks the ball well and has examples of soft-hand catches. Hyatt scares college defenses when put in motion, and his speed makes him an excellent option for clear-out routes. The South Carolina native displays good snap at the top of curl routes, but there are instances where he struggles to sink his hips.

Hyatt is a lean receiver who appears high-hipped. His play strength and lack of contact balance prevent him from generating yards after contact, and many of his routes are more rounded than crisp. Hyatt’s play strength shows up against press coverage. He struggles to fight through jams and has trouble creating separation against aggressive corners, who can bump the Fred Biletnikoff Award winner off his route.

Hyatt struggles to combat the hands of defensive backs in press coverage. He needs to fill out his underdeveloped release package and become more comfortable hand-fighting with defenders. Hyatt lines up pre-snap with a high and upright stance, which provides a big target for defenders. The All-SEC receiver generates yards after the catch with speed, but he’s not elusive or twitchy in small spaces. He runs a limited route tree in Tennessee’s space-manufacturing offense and benefits from primarily playing in the slot. Hyatt has a poor feel for holes in zone and doesn’t always work back to his quarterback when the play breaks down.

Drops remain a slight issue, and there are several examples of body catches on Hyatt’s tape. Despite his speed, the former four-star recruit doesn’t consistently generate separation coming out of his cuts. Hyatt doesn’t always run routes full speed on plays not designed to his side of the field, which frequently occurs in Tennessee’s offense. He has limited to no special teams experience with the Volunteers.

Grade:
3rd Round

Background:
Hyatt was a four-star recruit from Dutch Fork High School in Irmo, S.C. in the class of 2020. He was the No. 197 recruit according to 247Sports, No. 194 for Rivals, and No. 174 for On3.com. Hyatt was an unranked four-star recruit for ESPN with an 80 grade out of 100. He originally committed to Virginia Tech before flipping to Tennessee. Hyatt committed to the Volunteers over offers from Arkansas, Kentucky, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Penn State, Virginia, Wake Forest, West Virginia, and other Power 5 programs. He holds Dutch Fork’s career records in receiving yards (3,624) and receiving touchdowns (57). Hyatt spearheaded back-to-back undefeated seasons capped with South Carolina Class 5A state titles in 2018 and 2019. He was a finalist for South Carolina’s Mr. Football award in 2019 when he caught 66 passes for 1,361 yards and 26 touchdowns. Per MaxPreps, Hyatt produced 71 receptions for 1,316 yards and 21 touchdowns as a high school junior and 43 receptions for 947 yards and ten touchdowns as a sophomore.

He won four consecutive 5A state championships in high school and earned offensive MVP honors in the Shrine Bowl of the Carolinas. Hyatt reportedly ran a 4.31 laser-timed 40-yard dash at The Opening Regional. He’s also credited with running a 10.46 100-meter dash and 21.14 200-meter dash. Hyatt has been playing football since he was five years old. His younger brother (Devin) plays football at IMG Academy. His father played college basketball, and his mother was an All-State sprinter. Hyatt was born on Sept. 25, 2001. He won the Fred Biletnikoff Award in 2022 and earned a First-Team All-SEC selection.


https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/jalin-hyatt

I am assuming Ref 3 will start it after the Super Bowl.

One more thing, I am not saying whether or not Hyatt should be the guy or not. I was just providing information. Hell, he's the first WR in the draft I talked about.

will Ref 1 and 2 be on the sideline during the Superbowl?

And as far as 40 times go he wasn't fast either. But in terms of WR's quickness has always been more important than speed.

Cleveland Browns: Daron Payne
How do you fix an ailing run defense? Well, signing a 6-foot-3, 320-pound Pro Bowl defensive tackle could help. Payne would be an ideal complement to Myles Garrett on Cleveland’s D-line. It’s imperative for the Browns to add a big body alongside their star pass-rusher.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/one-free-agent-player-fit-every-nfl-team-2023

RUN STUFFING DEFENSIVE TACKLE BOTH IN FA AND THE DRAFT ...

I liked that you went all caps

He must be super duper serious.

Browns: Which 2023 NFL Draft wide receivers could add explosiveness to the offense?
Jacob Roach
Thu, January 26, 2023 at 7:20 AM EST

The offense of the Cleveland Browns has continued to be limited by the inability to stretch the field vertically. The plan was for Anthony Schwartz to fill that role but two years in there hasn’t been much success as the Browns need to improve their wide receiver room. A few players are available in free agency, but the best route may be through the 2023 NFL Draft.

This class isn’t as good as last year’s, but there are still some nice receiver prospects in this year’s draft. Let’s take a look at five potential draft targets for the Browns to take the offense to the next level with a home run threat that you must respect deep down the field.

Jalin Hyatt, Tennessee
If you turn on the film of Tennessee’s Jalin Hyatt, one word comes to mind, and that’s explosive. Hyatt possesses elite-level speed and knows how to use it to make big plays. If you want to turn on one game to know how much of a weapon Hyatt’s speed is what the game against Alabama this season.

Against the Crimson Tide Hyatt recorded six catches for 207 yards and five touchdowns. Alabama’s defense is full of players that will be playing in the NFL soon and they had no answer for Hyatt’s raw game-changing speed.

Zay Flowers, Boston College
Boston College’s Zay Flowers possess great speed and he knows exactly how to use it. He possesses great body control and can throttle up and throttle back down really well. Flowers creates a ton of separation and can make people miss in the open field.

Primarily playing from the slot, where the Browns need the most help, he could slide right into the perfect role in Cleveland. It will be interesting to see if the Browns value speed in the slot or from the outside.

Tyler Scott, Cincinnati
When you turn on the film with Tyler Scott you see a player with all the tools and ability to be a good NFL player. Scott has already run a 40 in less than 4.3 seconds before he gets to the NFL combine to turn heads in February. Truly has game-changing speed that can great explosive plays in a hurry.

An above-average route runner he understands how to use his speed with impressive body control. Scott could be the missing piece to the Browns’ offense for a successful 2023.

Marvin Mims, Oklahoma
Another slot receiver with elite speed is the electric Marvin Mims from Oklahoma. Mims averages nearly 20 yards per reception in his college career while averaging 22 and 20.1 per reception in 2021 and 2022 respectively.

This year Mims finally broke 1,000 receiving yards this past season he has shown improvement each year in college. Mims isn’t a great blocker, though he wasn’t asked to do much in college, but has the tools to challenge teams vertically consistently.

Nathaniel Dell, Houston
Nathaniel Dell had a great season for Houston this year with 109 catches for 1,398 yards and an incredible 17 touchdowns. A crisp route runner with quick feet and explosive speed off the line Dell is a big play waiting to happen. Dell can create extra yardage in the open field with his speed and ability to change direction quickly.

The concerns with Dell come from his smaller frame and injury risk with his overall lack of speed. He can struggle in press-man coverage to get off the line but if he is given an inch he can great big plays consistently.

I am not saying that he won't be able to separate at the LOS against Press-Man or that he can't run routes, but I think it is an error in judgement to not be cautious of him never showing that he can do those things in college. And those are the reasons why he might be a Day 2 choice.

The NFL is littered w/really fast guys that excited people during the draft only to do next to nothing in the NFL.