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I've always wanted to try this absinthe stuff - had a few buddies in the army tell me stories about it while they were in Germany, and it looks like we'll be able to buy it in the US again after a near 100 year ban. Also reminds me of a hilarious scene from the movie Eurotrip.

Absinthe is back!

ALAMEDA, CA -- It's not exactly what you'd expect to find behind the doors of an old military hangar.
But an Alameda hangar-turned-distellery is bringing a 19th century artform back to life.

Inside, a still is whipping up one of the first U.S. made batches of a legendary drink that hasn't been produced in nearly 100 years.

Master distiller Lance Winters says "we have enough ready to go for 3,600 bottles of absinthe."

Alameda's St. George Spirits has just gotten the green light to mass produce and sell its version of absinthe, a potent brandy flavored with herbs, after the U.S. lifted a nearly 100-year ban on the drink.

For master distiller Lance Winters it's a dream come true.

Lance says "I was giddy as a school girl I skipped naked down the street then called a friend of mine who is a brilliant label designer and said let's get ready to label this stuff."

Absinthe Varet is the first U.S.-made form of the drink on the market since 1912, when the U.S. banned it because of fears its herbal ingredients drove people mad.

Those rumors were never scientifically proven.

And while the 120-proof drink packs quite a punch, its maker says it's pefectly safe.

Lance says "I wouldn't recommend sitting down with a bottle of this and a crazy straw and passing an afternoon but having a glass of it at the end of the day with a little water in it, perfect way to end your day."

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It was the drink of choice for 19th century painters, poets and writers.

Vincent van Gogh sliced off his ear while sipping it, Edgar Degas and Pablo Picasso painted it, French poet Paul Verlaine cursed it as he lay dying in his bed.

For nearly 100 years, the United States and many other nations banned it.

Absinthe. "It leads straight to the madhouse or the courthouse," declared Henri Schmidt, a French druggist urging his own countrymen to outlaw the green liquid in the early 1900s, which they did.

Now it seems that no one can remember exactly why it was prohibited. Some say it was the chemical thujone found in the herb wormwood, used to make absinthe, that affects the brain. Others say it was a plot by the wine industry to put the popular spirit out of business. And there are those who believe it was a case of baseless hysteria, not unlike "Reefer Madness," the 1936 propaganda film about marijuana.

Earlier this year, a lone Washington, D.C., lawyer took on the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau in an attempt to lift the ban. After some legal wrangling, the agency agreed - with some limits.

Last week, St. George Spirits of Alameda received the news that, after seven applications, the federal agency had approved its label, the final obstacle before going to market. On Monday, the small artisan distillery sold its token first bottle, becoming the only American company since 1912 to sell absinthe in the United States. Then the staff took a moment to celebrate.

"We made champagne and absinthe cocktails, which rapidly degenerated into just sipping absinthe out of the bottle with crazy straws," said Lance Winters, a 42-year-old master distiller at the seven-employee company.

For 11 years Winters experimented, adding a little of this and little of that. No matter how close he came to perfection, each new batch had to be dumped down the drain to comply with federal dictate. But come Dec. 21, St. George will begin selling 3,600 bottles of its Absinthe Verte. That's too few to distribute to big chains, so for now the company will offer it at its Alameda tasting room and at limited liquor stores for $75 for a 750 ml bottle.

The 25-year-old company, started by Jorg Rupf, a German distiller who moved to the Bay Area to attend law school, is most known for its Hangar One vodka, but it also makes single-malt whiskey, grappa and a number of eau de vies.

From the beginning, absinthe was Winter's baby. The brewer-turned-distiller liked the challenge of blending his grape-based brandy with locally grown herbs like wormwood, absinthe's most important - and controversial - ingredient, plus tarragon, basil and mint. Winters also uses anise and fennel.

"Absinthe is really complex," he said. "There are a lot of powerful botanical ingredients all fighting for dominance. So you strive for balance."

St. George will compete with three other absinthe distillers - the Swiss Kubler, French Lucid and the Brazilian Absinto Camargo. All have begun importing the licorice-flavored spirit into the United States in recent months. It was the Kubler distillery that hired attorney Robert Lehrman to end the prohibition, while Lucid was the brainchild of Ted Breaux, a New Orleans chemist who reverse-engineered an old bottle of absinthe to devise his formula. He worked with a French distillery to reproduce it. All have paved the way for U.S. distillers to sell their own perfected versions of the drink, which are likely to hit the shelves soon.

Lehrman said Yves Kubler, who produces a few hundred thousand bottles of absinthe a year, saw a real market for the spirit here and was eager to tap into it. So in 2000, Lehrman started making inquiries of federal regulators only to determine that the fight would be a tough one.

"When something has been banned since 1912, it's hard to get it undone," he said.

But Lehrman persevered. Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau officials said they were willing to accept absinthe formulas that fall under the U.S. Food and Drug Administration regulations that the drink contain no more than 10 parts per million of the chemical thujone, but the word absinthe on the bottle's label had to be small and used with a qualifier like St. George's Verte or Kubler's Swiss Absinthe Superieure.

Lehrman said thujone in mass quantities "is bad stuff," but small amounts are found in a number of herbs, ingredients and materials, including sage and cedar, and are considered fairly harmless. More notable is absinthe's high alcohol content, typically 120 proof or more, about 50 percent higher than vodka and whiskey.

"Look, absinthe is bad the way Jack Daniels is bad, the way Skyy Vodka is bad," says Lehrman. "The worst component is the alcohol. If you drink too much, something bad will happen."

But in 1905 the Swiss government was convinced that it was absinthe alone that turned a law-abiding citizen into a homicidal maniac. After Jean Lanfray, a 31-year-old laborer, killed his pregnant wife and two children, the Swiss government banned the spirit. Although Lanfray had sampled a bottle of absinthe before breakfast that morning, officials failed to take into consideration that he had also consumed Creme de Menthe, cognac and soda, more than six glasses of wine and a cup of coffee laced with brandy, says Barnaby Conrad III, the San Francisco author of "Absinthe: History in a Bottle" (Chronicle Books, 1988; the publisher is not affiliated with this newspaper).

Conrad, an artist and journalist who traced the downfall of absinthe in his book, says the drink became synonymous with the degeneration of the world's most famous bohemians, from Van Gogh's infamous ear cutting to Verlaine's debaucherous sprees of sex and rage.

Even Oscar Wilde was quoted as saying "After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world."

But Conrad says absinthe was probably the least of these artists' problems.

"Van Gogh suffered from schizophrenia, a disease that went way back in his family, and Verlaine was a raging alcoholic," he said.

The author believes that absinthe merely became the scapegoat of politicians. Its controversy was probably fueled by the wine industry, which was threatened by the popularity of absinthe.

But the mystique of the famous liquid only adds to its allure, says Conrad, who has sold more of his books in the last five years than in the first 15 of its existence. Many young enthusiasts entranced by its folklore have tried ordering absinthe on the Internet, hoping not to get caught. Some modern-day moonshiners even tried distilling it at home.

"It's the forbidden fruit factor," says the author.

And that, he says, will certainly help sales.

"Just because you drink absinthe doesn't mean you're going to become a creative genius," Conrad warns. "But it will tickle your imagination as it tickles your brain cells."

Why the mystique?

Modern absinthe got its start as a medical elixir in the late 18th century but became immensely popular as a drink in the mid-1800s, especially among the avant-garde.

Edgar Degas created his famous painting "L'absinthe" of a woman sitting in front of a glass of absinthe, and Pablo Picasso painted "The Absinthe Drinker" during his blue period. Ernest Hemingway is said to have been a consummate absinthe drinker and was known to have a glass or two before running with the bulls.

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Is this the drink in Eurotrip where the guy ends up making out with his sister?


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Yes...with the fat green fairy telling him what to do...


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Good. I've been having to import it from the Czech Republic. It's not cheep to begin with but then add shipping from half way around the world... geez, $125 a bottle.

Hopefully the American made stuff will have high levels of thujone like to imported stuff. Otherwise it's a waste of time and effort.

To those who haven't tried it. Give it a try. Follow the directions for mixing it with sugar. Don't drink it like regular booze. The buzz is different from any other alchoholic drink. It's more of an uplifting buzz than a drunk in the gutter buzz. Although if you drink it to excess it'll drop you like a rock.


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Many young enthusiasts entranced by its folklore have tried ordering absinthe on the Internet, hoping not to get caught.




It's not illegal to import into the states. It's only been illegal to manufacture it or sell it in your local tavern.


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What does it taste like?

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Very strong grain alchohol with a hint of anise (black licorice). It's slightly bitter which is why you add sugar.


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Hopefully the American made stuff will have high levels of thujone like to imported stuff. Otherwise it's a waste of time and effort.





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But Lehrman persevered. Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau officials said they were willing to accept absinthe formulas that fall under the U.S. Food and Drug Administration regulations that the drink contain no more than 10 parts per million of the chemical thujone...

Is 10ppm enough?

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Very strong grain alchohol with a hint of anise (black licorice). It's slightly bitter which is why you add sugar.




Holy heck. How much of that stuff can you drink without having to get your stomach pumped?

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Oh no worries ... you drink enough, and your stomach will pump itself.

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Is it similar to ouzo?

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Very strong grain alchohol with a hint of anise (black licorice). It's slightly bitter which is why you add sugar.




Bleck! Anything tasting like black licorice (including black licorice) should be prohibited by law!

Now, where's a puking emoticon on here?




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Now, where's a puking emoticon on here?





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I laughed...

... but if you can't drink it to excess, what's the point? I like the thought of an uplifting buzz, though.


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Michelle~As long as it's not licorice! This time of year though...hot chocolate with Peppermint Schnapps is a fave of mine. Mmmmmmm

Beer~That's how I feel after anything black licorice (and no, that isn't just a pregnancy aversion, I hated black licorice before that). LOL!




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The Three Wisemen gifts .... Goldschlogger, Jagermeister, Rumplemintz.

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Beer~That's how I feel after anything black licorice (and no, that isn't just a pregnancy aversion, I hated black licorice before that). LOL!




Im with you, I would love to try it, but I cant stand black licorice, makes me want to instantly hurl.


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The Three Wisemen gifts .... Goldschlogger, Jagermeister, Rumplemintz.




I always thought it was Jager, Rumpleminz, and 151? Or Jim, Jack, Johnny?

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No, the Three wisemen themselves are Jack, Jack and Jim Beam ... you wash that down with the wisemen gifts ... Gold, Jager, Mintz.

Ahhh ... the things I don't remember from my 23rd birthday.

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a 3 Wisemen is Jose, Jack & Jim.

Where the hell did y'all learn to drink


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No, "3 guys and a Mexican" are Jim, Jack, Johnny, and Jose.

Edit: Wait, I think that's a 4 Horsemen.

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Where the hell did y'all learn to drink




The three wisemen are always wiskeys ... Jack Daniels, Jim Beam, Jack Dempsey ... or Johnny Walker. Jose is just a stupid tequilla drinker.

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Didnt we all learn from GM?

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hell no, I learned the hard way.

It's been a while since I made one or drank one, so I just looked it up..... depending on which bartending guide you read, we're all right

Also...

Three Wise Men Go Hunting recipe
Johnnie Walker® Scotch whisky
Jim Beam® bourbon whiskey
Jack Daniel's® Tennessee whiskey
Wild Turkey® bourbon whiskey

Three Wise Men On A Farm recipe
1 shot Jack Daniel's® Tennessee whiskey
1 shot Jim Beam® bourbon whiskey
1 shot Yukon Jack® Canadian whisky
1 shot Wild Turkey® bourbon whiskey


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We need an OFFICIAL bartending book of Hoyle.

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Michelle~As long as it's not licorice! This time of year though...hot chocolate with Peppermint Schnapps is a fave of mine. Mmmmmmm






That sounds good for movie nights! YUM


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Those are recipes?

Sounds more like a whiskey neat.....In a soda glass.

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It's VERY good. Almost like a York Peppermint Patty, but way better!

None for me this year though.




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I'm thinking that it would better with homemade hot chocolate though, right? I can't imagine using the powdered stuff...seems like it wouldn't be as good.

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kinda like when jager was made with opium, good stuff, now it's just a stupid little drink that i wouldnt waste my time with cause it taste's like crap


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mmmm, Jager.

Jager & Coke was always a good drink.

Used to always make a shot called "Black Death" as well.... had 7 different (mostly dark) liquers in it. Jager, Blue Curacao, Blackberry brandy, 151, Chambord, Sloe Gin and I *think* the last item was Triple Sec.. can't really remember. We made em all the time in the mid-90's when I worked in The Flats. I never had a single night of having even one of those that was not accompanied by a blackout..... nasty little things, don't miss them a bit.


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You are correct on the triple sec
And I havent had one since 1993, and dont plan on ever having one again! Those thinks will kick your arse!

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The one and only. Since 2001. I lurk daily many, many hours typically. Just ask my wife. I just don't chime in a lot. With the time difference, if I don't offer an opinion on a subject before I go to work, by the time I get home most topics have covered my opinion. So I just don't post. I read.

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Very strong grain alchohol with a hint of anise (black licorice). It's slightly bitter which is why you add sugar.




Holy heck. How much of that stuff can you drink without having to get your stomach pumped?




This is not the type of liquor you drink to get hammered on. It's more of an experience in and of itself. If you drink more than a couple of drinks you lose the thujone's effect because your just drunk.

If drinking to get drunk is your thing then Absynthe is not for you. At $125 a bottle it's too expensive to play with like that anyway.


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I do believe I need to try this stuff


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It's not illegal to import into the states. It's only been illegal to manufacture it or sell it in your local tavern.




From the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol official website.

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/kbyg/prohibited_restricted.xml#AbsintheAlcohol

"Absinthe (Alcohol)
The importation of Absinthe and any other liquors or liqueurs that contain Artemisia absinthium is prohibited."


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It's not illegal to import into the states. It's only been illegal to manufacture it or sell it in your local tavern.




From the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol official website.

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/kbyg/prohibited_restricted.xml#AbsintheAlcohol

"Absinthe (Alcohol)
The importation of Absinthe and any other liquors or liqueurs that contain Artemisia absinthium is prohibited."




Ah, but I didn't import it. I ordered it online and the company imported it. I mearly purchased it.


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A loophole in the law...
1. It is illegal to sell thujone containing absinthe in the US for human consumption.
2. It is illegal for someone outside the US to sell thujone containing absinthe to someone inside the US.
3. It is not illegal to purchase thujone containing absinthe for personal use in the US.
4. It is not illegal to purchase thujone containing absinthe for personal use from outside the United States
5. Thujone containing absinthe can be seized by US customs (if it appears to be for human consumption).


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Then you absolutely should. There is a website I order it from. I could give it to you in a PM.

When ordering don't be cheap. The higher the thujone the more you'll spend. But it's not as though this is something you'll drink often. If your going to drink Champagne would you get it from your local grocery? Spend the cash, enjoy the buzz... imbibe.


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You don't even have to try to get drunk to get there with absinthe, but it will happen to you. I can't imagine anyone drinking it with any other purpose in mind.

I had it while I was in Prague. One shot and two beers later, I was having a GREAT night. As someone said about the buzz, it definitely is different than any other buzz I'd ever had. It was a total pick me up; I was full of energy and didn't crash at the end of the night. You really have to be careful with it though.

As to the taste, I thought it tasted horrible!

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