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Congrats KC!

Boy, the off-season banter about the Chiefs being in rebuild really stuck in Kelce's crawl.

Good game up until the last 2 minutes.

Man, Andy Reid is only 64. For some reason, I thought he was about 70. He's not going anywhere with Mahomes there. I wouldn't. He might retire with 4-5 SBs by sticking around.

I agree... there's no way I'd retire until Mahomes was done... dude can keep banking with the best player in the NFL...

Yep. Unless health forces him, he's not going anywhere. I can't get over his age. I've had him beyond time to retire in my mind for at least a couple of years. Smh.

Great game, I wanted a close one. I thought the late holding call on Philly was greasy, but I also thought the eagles got a break with that overturned call on the fumble. It looked like a legit football move to me.

It’s a shame that penalties affect the outcome so much.

But still it was a fun game to watch. I went out to a SB party and the food was delicious. Burgers on the BBQ, donair dip, wicked bacon-wrapped scallops. An enjoyable evening.

Great Superbowl Sunday! Great game and party. Philly had a defensive collapse second only to the Falcons. I don't think the penalty was cheesy. You're taking that chance when you grab a receiver's jersey. Accept the consequences. But wow, the Philly fans are ready to riot. We did a surf and turf with crab legs, some nice siroin steaks that I got a great deal on and a friend unexpectedly brought over pot of some delicious jambalaya.

Oh....and that Breaking Bad commercial was hilarious.

Well Mahomes would have been on the sidelines - they would have had to kick a FG from 20+ yards away to take a 3 point lead and there would have been 1:50 or so on the clock. Hurts had a great game - and could easily have driven to FG position. A reasonable chance they get a TD.

But none of that changes the fact the Refs inserted themselves into the game and ruined the game. Period. You can debate whether technically it was a hold. But the reality is you can in theory call holding on any given play - but that's not how you decide games. The rest of the game that sort of play had been uncalled - rightly so - and to suddenly call that was just wrong. Hey - I'm neutral, and enjoyed what was otherwise a great game. But damn if that doesn't piss me off. Can't imagine how frustrated Philly Fan must be.

KC got beat three times- not perfect like the Fish. Saying that, Reid and Mahomes are a hell of a combo- Andy's play calling in the red zone sure smoked the D. Good game- not a blowout. I'm very surprised with so few sacks. Next year. Go Browns!!!

KC and Mahomes are so resilient and good. Refs helped, but their second half was championship level

Screen shot of the holding call:



Video of the play, you can view it best around the 1:36 mark:

Excellent game by two excellent teams. I do not like all the hype that occurs in the two weeks preceding the Super Bowl, so it was nice to watch such a competitive contest. Some thoughts:

--The two o-lines were outstanding. One of the biggest issues coming into the game was whether or not KC could protect an injured Mahomes. Philly had 70 sacks this year, which is the most since the Da Bears in 1985. Their front four had an incredible 60 of those sacks. KC's OL did a great job. So did Philly's OL. They pretty much dominated KC's DL.

--I thought both coaches did an excellent job. I do think Reid should have went for it on 4th down early in the game rather than attempting the FG that was missed. But, it was a well-coached game w/some nice play designs.

--I do think Philly should have run a bit more, but it's hard to argue w/them scoring 35 points.

--Bolton for KC had a fabulous game.

--The call at the end was disappointing, but it was the right call. Bradberry himself admitted that he held JuJu. The ball was thrown to a spot and he was unable to get there due to the hold. I wish it would not have been called because it removed a lot of the drama from the game, but it was the correct call.

--I was pleasantly surprised by how great Hurts played. It was his first time on this type of stage and was spectacular. He plays w/a calmness about him. And to think that most people [me included] thought he had no chance of becoming a starting qb while he was in college.

--Mahomes re-established himself as the league's best qb after being challenged by Allen and Burrow earlier this year. Mahomes is a magician. He reads defenses pre-snap so well. He was calling out coverages. He's also a great leader. One thing that doesn't get talked about too much is his toughness. Dude sucked it up yet again.

--Kelce is a marvelous TE. He gets a ton of pub, but I think he is still underrated. All the talk after Hill was traded was about who would Mahomes throw to. Never forget about Kelce.

--Jason Kelce had a great game, too. He's really strong and athletic. He plays w/great leverage. Can you imagine just how tough the Kelce brothers were back in their neighborhood as kids in Cleveland Heights?

--Congrats to both teams. No losers here. Just two outstanding teams that performed at very high levels.

Bolton was tremendous. The defensive MVP for sure

j/c:



Interesting.

ummm base salary doesnt really mean much.

I was very happy to see a great SB! It was good to see Bradberry owned up to the hold. It was hard to see the actual early jersey grab by the repaly shown on TV. Then once the announcers jumped on the "they should have let it go" bandwagon everyone bought into it.

For me it was just too close to call a winner before the game. I thought Philly had the better all around team but there is no discounting Reid/Mahomes under almost any circumstances. At the time when Mahomes reinjured that ankle I was worried how the second half would play out. Luckily it wasn't severe enough to hamper his abilities.

Both OL's played like fire.

I love to watch Mahomes play and Andy Reid is arguably one of the top three HC's in the NFL at the current time. Rooting for KC would have been my natural position in this game. But Hurts too is a great young talent. He played one helluva game. Their coach Nick Sirianni has also done a fantastic job with only having two years as a HC under his belt. So that too would have made me happy to see and I would not have been disappointed.

It was rather odd watching a SB not having a favorite to root for. It actually surprised me that I wasn't rooting hard for KC. The only sad part of this SB is that somebody had to walk away as the loser of the game.

I thought the halftime show was just so-so; not too good, not too bad. I like it best when the fans are out on the field, closer to the performers. More energy.

j/c

Something I had not known until I ran across it today.....

How a brief meeting with Andy Reid changed Nick Sirianni’s life

PHOENIX — The day before Nick Sirianni flew with his team to Arizona for Super Bowl LVII, he was asked about his first encounter with Andy Reid.

You know, the time Andy fired him.

Back in 2013 after the Eagles fired Reid, he quickly got a job in Kansas City and had the difficult task of firing the the coaching staff led by Romeo Crennel that led the Chiefs to a 2-14 record in 2012.

The Chiefs’ receivers coach that year? Sirianni.

“What I appreciated was that he brought everybody in and talked to them,” Sirianni remembered on Saturday. “Unfortunately, it was the same thing I had to do (when I was hired by the Eagles in 2021).

“I didn’t coach with Andy but he gave me a good example of what do, unfortunately, of the hard part of the job of, ‘Hey, I got a guy here.’ And he was very complimentary. He knew I would be down so he gave me strength when I was down. And I appreciated that. And it sounds like that’s who he is as a person and as a coach.”

The guy Reid had lined up to coach receivers was David Culley, who held that position in Philly with Reid for all 14 seasons. So there just wasn’t a job for Sirianni.

But things obviously worked out for Sirianni. If he doesn’t get fired in Kansas City, he doesn’t end up in San Diego the following season. That’s where he met one of his biggest mentors in Frank Reich. That relationship led to the offensive coordinator job under Reich in Indianapolis.

And that led to Sirianni’s being named the head coach in Philly at age 39, just eight years after Reid fired him.

Sirianni believes everything happened for a reason.

“Did I want to leave Kansas City? No,” he said. “My future wife was from there and we were engaged at the time. But she was from there. She had a nice teaching job there, she had all her friends there, here mom and dad were a half hour down the road. Of course I didn’t want to leave there. But when I look at it, God’s always put me in great positions and guided my path. I know I don’t say stuff like that all the time, but I know he has.”

That doesn’t mean he was just fine with getting let go.

"Do you always have this little chip on your shoulder? Sure, you do," Sirianni said. "You’re always like … but that’s who I am as a coach, as a person. I want to make sure that I’m working my butt off to be as good as I possibly can. And sure you hold on to some of those things but at the end of the day. I told the story about my leg and how I injured my leg. I told some of you guys about that. I really went through that and I was like, hey, if I didn’t go through one of the worst experiences of my life with my life, then I know I wouldn’t be sitting in this seat today. So I had to go through that. Well, it’s the same thing here."

Even understanding how the NFL works, Sirianni was excited the following season when his Chargers played the then-9-1 Chiefs at Arrowhead in Week 12 of the 2013 season. It was an emotion return to KC for a coach who wears his emotions on his sleeve.

The Chargers won that game 41-38 after Philip Rivers hit Seyi Ajirotutu on a 26-yard touchdown with just 24 seconds remaining in the fourth quarter.

Sirianni was up in the booth for that game but he admitted he showed a ton of emotion in the press box, jumping up from his seat after the win. He’s become known for those fiery moments since he got the Philly and since the cameras have been focused on him.

“If I was the head coach, I guess they would have saw that there and people would have been talking about that,” Sirianni said, “that I was on the press box and going crazy like that. They just didn’t see it.”

But Sirianni’s personality is what makes him who he is.

Even though Reid knew that a decade ago. He had already made up his mind that Culley was obviously taking that receivers job on his staff. But Reid was impressed with Sirianni during that meeting.

“I loved his personality,” Reid said to Kansas City media last week. “He’s a guy that you can talk to and communicates well. He’s got a fire to him that you appreciate and the players appreciate. A personality, a good personality, and he’s smart. I had a chance to talk to him and he’s a smart kid. And I think he’s perfect for Philadelphia. That’s a tough place and he’s a tough kid. He relates well with the people there.”

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelp...emembers-when-chiefs-andy-reid-fired-him

The field conditions were a joke for the super bowl.
Get rid of all that paint. Do a logo in the center and leave the grass green.

j/c

My thoughts on the game: Excellent game to watch - especially with no real rooting interest for me. Just a good game. Enjoyable.

I'm not a fan of "running the clock down" at the end, as you put the pressure on your kicker. Could've had a t.d., but I know all about that type of thing. hey, it worked, so kudo's for that, and to the kicker.

The 'holding' penalty - maybe a bit ticky tack, but, no one on the eagles complained that I know of. Hate to see a call like that, in THAT game, be a possible deciding factor. But, Hurts fumble cost the eagles also.

Half time - Rhianna's music isn't my cup of tea. But, my choice of music probably isn't most people's cup of tea either, so there's that. It was well done, the production. No complaints from me on that aspect.

Goedert has some hands. 4th downs with the eagles o line and Hurts sneaking? Impressive. Mahomes Mahomed. Pacheco (spelling) runs like he's on fire.

Fun game to watch.

As I mentioned in my post - you can probably call a similar hold on 50% of the plays in every single game. You can damn sure call holding on the OL on damn near every single play if you want to.

That call was absolutely not in line with the way the rest of the game was officiated. If I was an Eagles fan I'd be accused of having sour grapes and a sore loser - as it is I'm 100% neutral and thought both teams were magnificent. . . . but that call was BS.

I think, WOW, what could have been if Baker Mayfield were in for one of those 2 teams, I think he'd be head and shoulders above the other 2 @bs.
Not exciting. The game wasn't exciting the offenses were drab, I don't feel like either of those teams were far and away better than most NFL teams going away,
In the old days it used to mean something, it used to mean more to even see a team win a super bowl.
but, imagine,

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If Baker Mayfield were in there on one of those 2 teams, Mayfield in his first super bowl, well one thing, they'd have to be on a winning streak so the hype train, and the excitement would be at the TOP, palpable, cut it with a knife, and I might have something to root for.
Imagine seeing Baker Mayfield throwing 6 touchdowns in a blowout win super bowl. Now THAT would be epic football. I think.

I was really impressed w/some of the post-game interviews. Very classy on both sides.

Bradberry admitted he held JuJu. He said he was hoping the ref would let it slide, but he knew he held him. I think JuJu gets a TD w/out that hold because the ball was thrown to a spot.

Sirianni talked about how one play doesn't lose the game and said something about the Chiefs deserved to win.

Mahomes said he didn't want how well Hurts played to get lost in the loss. He complimented Hurts.

Taking the high road becomes more and more rare as the years pass by. It was nice to see these men handle things w/class.

I thought the Cheifs were robbed yesterday on those bad non calls in the first half.
Well, in contrary wise I'm a fan of EAgle WR AJ Brown and thought +looked for him to do big things, but,
on AJ Browns Touchdown the teams 2nd, he got away with offensive pass interference and a big one.

then, on the ensuing drive, it stalled on another non call of either defensive holding or pass interference on the play JuJu smith Schuster was so upset about, that, ... that would have been another Chiefs scoring drive,
now that's 2 times robbed. but then,

on the Punt, the camera was right there they , the eagle defender, ran into the kicker, ruoughed the kicker, knocked the doink out of the kicker on the punt and that too was a no call,
a foul that should have been called. so that's 3.

It was clear to me, that of them who might fix games, that they were fixing it in favor of the Eagles.
That the favoritism was going the Eagles way.

Rihanna sucked(s). I’m not a fan of her music, so I’m somewhat biased, but the whole HT show was boring. Half the women at the SB party spent most of it discussing how far along she was, I was hoping Chris Brown would show up just for some entertainment value.

The guys in weird white costumes flitting about in a smorgasbord of choreography? Not my cup of tea either.

Bring back the Stones.

Imo, HT shows are most always (if not always) garbage.

Maybe there is something to be said for bringing back the best college marching bands in the country.

From what I saw of him last night, Isiah Pacheco earned a big raise. Hell taking that one hard pop and coming back explosive the next play was worth his base for the year. That was a crazy hard hit. I bet it took a year off his life, lol.

If Andy Reid was the coach, would the Browns have been in the Super Bowl at least once in the last 4 years?

Probably not, but I think we’d have a better W/L record

Andy Reid is an excellent coach, but he was a HC for 20 years before he won his first Super Bowl w/a team led by the league's best qb.

Rihanna is a very lazy artist. Hasn't released anything in
6 years time. Has she ever done a proper world tour ever?
Her voice is very thin and lacks any kind of emotion
Or range. What a uninspired performance
She looked like the Kool Aid guy

If Andy Reid was the Browns coach, from the time he was released from Philly, the Browns would have Mahomes and Super Bowl win(s).

Andy traded up to get in front of the Browns for Mahommes.

Yah! She's a no talent Caribbean immigrant worth over a BILLION in real money/ not Trump money. I dislike her style of music and the constant gyrations of pelvic area thought to be "classy and artistic"- watch porn if you want to see some real action. Coaching and players equal SB win- Brady/ Belichick, Reed/ Mahomes come to mind- it ain't one without the other.

My biggest beef about Super Bowl- I want to watch the best football- all else is just fluff. The grass field SUCKED- everyone saw the players slipping- yeah, it was the same for both teams....bah, bah, bah- make sure the FEILD is in great shape- the PRODUCT is football and NFL failed by screwing the field up. Tell THE GUY to get it fixed.

John Dorsey drafted Mahomes. Not Reed.