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No absolutely not!! Let's draft and develop a fast young guy. We don't need OB's drama bull crap.
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Funny how those problems seemed to disappear in LA. Well I never saw him line up in the wrong place in LA - no idea if he ran good routes or not. But in CLE I saw him not know where to line up A LOT ... and we had multiple sources claiming he ran wrong routes when he left - and we have our own - closest to an insider as you can get poster on DawgTwalkers - confirm this too. I'm very comfortable taking the word of a trusted and respected poster here on the board.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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OBJ had the exact same problem in NY as he had here with not knowing where to lineup and running the wrong route. Manning has talked in depth about how they had to deal with OBJ. I do find it odd that so many posters here are now screaming "NO" about getting OBJ now but when he was here, his issues were all because of another player - imagine that. OBJ is not a team player and has never been a team player. If you're comfortable with that and willing to except him showing up to give effort every 5th or 6th game - then go get him by all means. He has the talent to take over a game - you just have no idea when he'll give you that effort or when he will be missing in action in critical games.
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As far as I am concerned it is open season on Odell.
When we got him. I was stoked. I thought we would roll with Jarvis and Odell. We did not.
It makes no difference who wants to blame whom. It did not work and he was shipped out.
I doubt he will ever return. But he is out there.
I am not into players who draw lots of attention and only occasionally produce.
There are better options IMO.
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Odell is done. His knees are done Sorry to say this, but I think you are correct.
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Question, why do people here think we NEED a WR??? ACooper caught just about anything thrown his way, DPJ made some really difficult catches, DBell performed well in my eyes in games he played, I just don't understand why we would need to spend CAP money on one, let alone draft one. We have FAR bigger needs that WR. Beside, with Watson now, once his first read isn't there, he's taking off running anyways.
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You just rolled this out there, did ya? Back-pedal much?
More than likely you wanted to start yet another thread, but I will play. No yo Odell, it’s ova, knees shot , too old he’s a canca and waste o my time
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no, NO, and let me make this clear.
OH HELL NO.
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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A topic for discussion.
Is this a discussion Board? You are not limited. You can start a topic.
Odell is out there. Most believe we need another receiver.
I think there are better options. Maybe some think Odell is an option?
He was a topic to go to Dallas. He went to the Rams.
You are not being forced to post if it is a waste of your time.
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Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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We need another receiver but it won’t be him. And I reserve the right to criticize a thread if I think it should be. I do have a right to my opinion. But no offence bone, I like you and will not get into a war of words with you.
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No quarrel Lamp.
I agree we do need a receiver. There are better options than Odell.
I think we will get another. I don't know where but I think we will add someone.
I know Anthony Schwartz has been a bust. Bell and Woods were rookies. Those three are really unknowns. I really do not know how Berry and KS and the staff view those guys. I hope they are looking them with keen eyes. And that they are unafraid to admit we need more if they see that we do. And not be caught up in we drafted them. They will develop.
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I believe Odell is a bit abstract. It takes either a very creative mind or a cerebral-minded QB to take advantage of Odell's capabilities.
I haven't seen enough of Watson to think he and Odell can be compatible.
But, from what I've witnessed, I think the two could become a very dynamic duo. Toss in Cooper and DPJ and I think you have something special.
Signing Obj comes at a cost for a WR2/WR3. Odell must want the Super Bowl Ring more than the Money. Here lies the question. I do think the potential is worth the investment.
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No... on the field he's well past his prime... off the field he's 100% not worth the headache...
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Heck No! The dude didn't want to be here the first time.
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I know Anthony Schwartz has been a bust. I also agree we need another receiver (is there anyone who does not?). What I think we need is what we were hoping Schwartz would be. Some who can stretch the field, but someone defenses need to respect. Schwartz does not check that second box.
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Schwartz is still on the team. It would be shocking at this point if he actually contributes. But ya never know.
I have given some thought to the receiver question. So, we have Cooper and know his strengths. DPJ has been a draft find. He has improved every year. He is a reliable guy for catching contested throws. He has some speed but not elite speed. He is not great at creating separation. He is a complimentary piece. Njoku is a receiver as well as a TE and he will get more targets.
So, then there is Schwartz, Bell, Woods, Jaelon Darden ( 4.46 40 time) and Felton.
They really only need one of these guys to pan out and act like a third receiver.
DW and KS are working on the offense that will be run. They will look at how and where the route trees will be run. What will help DW execute at his max potential.
They may decide they have all they need. Or, they could decide we need more. I am not sure how they see the position.
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I don't think this owner and FO will gamble on someone possibly panning out after the huge investment in watson. They'll want to make sure he has the weapons to succeed. They've gambled far too much to do otherwise.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Could be right but they have invested in draft picks as well.
Bell, Schwartz, Woods, and Felton. When you do draft a guy. You expect a return. Sometimes with these young guys the light comes on and they make a big jump.
I would not expect a draft pick from the second round on down to contribute much in their first season. Bell, Woods, Darden are known now.???
Felton and Schwartz I don't expect much.
So, free agency. I don't know with rollover money, NFL new money and restructuring contracts where they will end in available money.
IMO the first priority will go to defense specifically DT, DE and maybe safety (I don't know what they will do with JJ3).
Then it becomes how much money and who gets it.
I will say that DW will input. He damn well may push to get D'Hop? He is not UFA. So, that makes that complicated. Plus he is thirty. Spending big on receivers at that stage I would guess does not have a good track record.
There maybe some good options out there to fill the roll they have in mind.
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Is Odell even still in football? I know his ass didn't play last year. I guess his daddy's tweets cost him in the long run, and all I can say is GOOD. Between being a has-been or never-was and his family's over-inflated ego about his play, nobody wanted the Odell drama this year. Lmao. I'd say we can close the book on his career. I don't see him taking a backup or second-tier player contract, his ego wouldn't let him. He's done.
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He took a physical for Dallas and they passed on him.
In order to play again he will have to pass a physical. I have no idea if he can pass.
He will have to prove he is healthy to play. And, that he can play at the NFL level to get paid.
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True, JMHO, he's done. He won't admit it, but he be done.
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