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Not worried, there is no way OBJ is coming back here unless we throw a ton more $$$ than anyone else at him. He didn't want to be here the first time, the only reason he reported after he was traded here was because of his relationship with Landry.


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Watson wasn't the QB the first time OBJ was here either.


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Takitaki is more than depth. He’s a staunch run defender decent in coverage, and played good football until his injury in ‘22.


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Green is a good #4 behind Emerson


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Keeping Green is a good move. I hope we keep TakiTaki too. He was better than Walker and JOK on the field last year.

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I would approve of retaining Takitaki.

I thought that we would let Pocic walk.

I have thought we would grab one big-time defender and then snagged some lower-priced guys.

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So in other words, it will be even easier to run on us now? wink


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It makes sense. A position of need, talented, and the guy is 23. The price tag to get him is probably really high.


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It makes sense. A position of need, talented, and the guy is 23. The price tag to get him is probably really high.

I’ve read they want at least a first.


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I just read that it would take a 2nd and 4th to get him.

I will always prefer a known performance over an expectation of a draft pick.

He is only 23. In 2023, Jeudy will earn a base salary of $2,681,769, while carrying a cap hit of $4,834,128 and a dead cap value of $4,834,128.

There is a fifth year option.

In some ways like size and speed he is similar to Cooper. He also is considered a great route runner.

He would give the Browns a solid first string unit.


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The way we draft I would give a 2nd and a 4th for Jeudy in a heartbeat. I doubt any 2nd and 4th would have the positive impact that Jeudy would have. Parham would be a very good addition also. JMO

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I think you have to keep in mind when you look at Jeudy that the qb situation in Denver was really bad.

His numbers are misleading. He was hurt and the qb's stunk it up while he played there.

He was a selected 15th in the first round. He has some great years at Alabama.

He could be a steal because of the situation in Denver.

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j/c...

Browns lose Froholdt.


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j/c:

--Not sure about how I feel regarding a trade for Jeudy???

--mac will be bummed about the Froholdt news.

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--Not sure about how I feel regarding a trade for Jeudy???

Me Neither ...


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I just read that it would take a 2nd and 4th to get him.

I will always prefer a known performance over an expectation of a draft pick.

He is only 23. In 2023, Jeudy will earn a base salary of $2,681,769, while carrying a cap hit of $4,834,128 and a dead cap value of $4,834,128.

There is a fifth year option.

In some ways like size and speed he is similar to Cooper. He also is considered a great route runner.

He would give the Browns a solid first string unit.


The issue is we're going to need to hit on cheaper rookie contracts to make the cap work with our more expensive veterans in place. This is true for most teams once they have good players at the money positions. A 2 and 4 is a lot to give up for what is essentially a one year rental. After this season we'd likely have to be paying ~$12M/yr (his 5th yr option number) or more to keep him.

There should be some good players available at our second round pick. They'd be cost controlled for their whole rookie deal/~4 years.

If we could do the comp 3rd and a 4th (maybe another future 4th), I might be more amenable. That way we could potentially trade back in the 2nd (if certain guys are gone, I'm looking at Adetomiwa Adebawore or maybe Gervon Dexter) and recoup some value and get a couple solid players on team friendly deals. The top of the draft isn't looking amazing, but that ~40-70 range is allegedly looking full of similarly valued, solid players.

Being able to field a team of all proven expensive vets would be great. But you can't actually really do that in a salary cap league. KC had a bunch of rookies in significant roles last season. They're still having to let proven veterans go (seemingly in our favor with Thornhill even.)

It's a balancing act. I don't think we can really afford to spend more on our offense expensive vet-wise. We need to get cheaper replacements ready to replace the vets. Unfortunately, Jeudy doesn't really fall into that category.

We still need some improvement in the defensive trenches it seems to me, and I think it would be wiser to spend what's left of our cap room, excluding rookie contracts, there.

Jeudy would be great to have, but I'm not sure trading a 2 and 4 for him would give us the most added value, especially thinking beyond this season.


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I understand your point.

However, Jeudy was the 15th pick in the draft. That should mean he has talent. Receiver can only look good if they are thrown too.

I can not say what his true potential is.

But a second and fourth round are not a lot to give up if Jeudy is really good.

Jeudy will be cheap for a year. Then it will depend on what he does.

We could hit gold for both draft picks and that would be grand. But we could get what their draft grade is as well. Or, get trash.

So this is why GM's make good money.

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The question is can Browns the Browns draft a player in this
Draft that can equate to what Jeudy can give you?
No. I think Berry and Stefanski found out the hard way
Trying to develop WRs has held this offense back hence also
A reason why the Browns haven't made the playoffs in 2 years.

Judy would really give this offense some firepower.
Look at his resume. He comes from a university that
Produces NFL big time NFL WRs.
Jeudy got drafted by a organization that was a train wreck
From the GM to the HC. He is ultra talented.
His QB was a cancer last year. Being a diva and etc.
The situation was toxic in Denver.

Jeudy is another Tee Higgins talent wise.

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I leaning towards Bull's line of thinking all things considered. We gave up a lot of draft assets for Watson. We do have to be cognizant of our salary cap. I'd rather draft a WR, develop him, and have him on a rookie deal for 4 years.

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Good to see DW putting in the work.


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Other things to consider is that if you trade for Jeudy he's still on his rookie deal and you can pick up his 5th year option before signing him to a bigger deal. By that time, Cooper's contract is up and he is likely gone given that he would be 31 heading into the 2025 season. Jeudy would only be 26 and the Browns would have three drafts to build the WR room before the 2025 season.

Trading for Jeudy may mean the Browns do not extend DPJ.

It'll be interesting to see if the Browns go after him. I have a feeling they trade their 2nd pick this year for a player or trade down.

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Good points.

We are in a win now mode. A second round or later pick at receiver is far from a guarantee. Even if a good player it will take a year for him to figure out the NFL.

Jeudy is ready to play. He has a lot to prove. He was the 15th pick. It has not been good in Denver. He should be highly motivated.

He was 30th in targets last season. 30th in receptions. Had 987 yards for 22nd.

His PFF grade for 2022 was 78.4

He would get targets and catches with DW.

I will ride with AB. I will back his decision either way.

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Any word on Jeudy's injury history...?




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https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/jerry-jeudy/10598

Injury is part of football. He has not had serious injury.

But like most you should expect him to miss some games.

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He's played in 41 out of a possible 50 games w/Denver. Missed 2 games last year and 7 in 2021.

He has 21 drops in those 41 games. That's pretty bad.

His average yds per route is pretty high.

Yards after catch is 6.0, which is good.

Percentage of targets per route run is 20.4, which is above average.


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Any word on Jeudy's injury history...?

He suffered a meniscus injury in college (2018) and underwent surgery to repair the injury.

September 12 2021: Carted off the field. X-rays were negative, diagnosed with a high-ankle sprain. He was placed on IR and missed 6 games.


Those ^ are the only majors, here's the whole list:

Apr 2, 2018 Non-NFL Knee Meniscus Tear Jeudy suffered a meniscus injury and underwent surgery to repair the injury.
Sep 20, 2020 NFL Chest Rib Sprain/Pull Unspecified Jeudy injured his ribs in the second quarter of a game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. He didn't miss any game
Nov 11, 2020 NFL Shoulder Jeudy was active for Week 10's game against the Raiders despite being questionable due to a shoulder injury.
Nov 25, 2020 NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Jeudy was questionable for Week 12's game against the Saints. He was active for that game
Sep 12, 2021 NFL Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3 Jeudy suffered a right high-ankle sprain in Week 1's victory over the Giants. He was placed on IR and missed 6 games.
Jun 13, 2022 NFL Inguinal Groin Pull Grade 1 Denver head coach Nathaniel Hackett said Jeudy tweaked his groin and his removal was merely precautionary.
Sep 18, 2022 NFL Chest Rib Sprain/Pull Unspecified Jeudy went down in the 1st quarter against the Texans.
Nov 13, 2022 NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Jeudy dealt with a strained muscle behind his left ankle, per insider Ian Rapoport.


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Here is an article about what Denver should do w/him. It's from Sept. 28th. I tried to find a more recent one.


Has Jerry Jeudy earned the 5th-year option from the Denver Broncos?

By Andrew Wade
Sep 28, 2022


The deadline to exercise Jerry Jeudy’s 5th-year option is not for several months, but the Denver Broncos should be thinking long and hard about whether or not he has earned that pay bump. Since entering the league as the Denver Broncos’ first-round pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, fans have been clamoring to see Jerry Jeudy live up to the immense potential he showed in the Alabama Crimson Tide offense. Unfortunately, that just hasn’t been the case, and that’s putting it lightly.


While it is easy to explain certain aspects of Jerry Jeudy’s disappointing output through 2.25 seasons (holy Pat Shurmur play-calling), there are too many all-to-revealing items that should be causing Denver Broncos general manager George Paton grave concern when evaluating his upcoming 5th-year option. Jeudy has struggled with drops. He has struggled with inconsistent performances. And, most importantly, he has been surpassed by nearly all of his peers that were drafted in the first two rounds of the 2020 and 2021 NFL Drafts.

Should the Denver Broncos give Jerry Jeudy the 5th-year option?
To this point in his career, Jeudy has accumulated 1,453 yards on 97 receptions. He has been targeted 185 times in his short career, but he has only scored four touchdowns with only one of those coming after his rookie season. To round out his statistics is a whopping 15 drops and 3 fumbles. To put it bluntly, Jerry Jeudy has been a drive-killer so far in his career, and Sunday night vs San Francisco was no different.

Against the 49ers, Jeudy graded out with a 52.9 grade while hauling in just two of his six targets for a minuscule 17 yards. I’m not going to knock Jeudy for the deep ball he couldn’t haul in because that was just an amazing play by 49ers defensive back Jimmie Ward. However, in a game where Courtland Sutton put up great numbers and Russell Wilson was needing a second option to get this offense to halfway decent against a stout San Francisco defense, Jeudy couldn’t step up and be that guy.

This isn’t about just the one game though even if I admit that’s what sparked my thought about the 5th-year option and whether Jeudy deserved it. It’s the full picture of his career in Denver. I know he had to deal with a merry-go-round of below-average quarterbacks and Pat Shurmur’s horrendous play-calling that basically negated Jeudy from half of his offensive snaps, but what’s the excuse now? Even with the Denver Broncos offense struggling to score, they have been moving the ball relatively effectively. Outside of Jeudy’s big touchdown play against Seattle where he turned a catch into a 67-yard touchdown, he has only caught 6 of his other 15 targets for 63 yards.

Looking at his career makes this even worse when evaluating against guys like Justin Jefferson, Tee Higgins, Chase Claypool, CeeDee Lamb, Michael Pittman Jr, Ja’Marr Chase, Jaylen Waddle, DeVonta Smith, and Amon-Ra St Brown. Here is how Jeudy’s numbers compare (all normalized for games play) to the other 14 wide receivers taken in the first two rounds (plus Amon-Ra St. Brown) of the 2020 and 2021 NFL Draft:


Receptions (97) – 13th
Touchdowns (4) – 13th
Yards (1,453) – 11th
Catch % (52%) – 15th
Drop Rate 2022 – 11th
Drop Rate 2021 – 6th
Drop Rate 2020 – 15th

It’s worth noting that also included in that analysis were Henry Ruggs (who is now in jail) and Jalen Reagor (who got traded because he was so bad in Philadelphia).

Currently, Jerry Jeudy is earning $3.7 million a year. If George Paton were to keep Jeudy on his 5th-year option, he would be earning north of the $18.4 million that was the salary cap for this past year’s 5th-year option.

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I would love to see Jerry Jeudy bust out and become the number two guy on what could be a high-powered Denver Bronco offense (although there is a long way to go on this), but time is running out. There are 14 regular season games remaining in year three, but with Justin Jefferson and Ja’Marr Chase quickly inserting themselves into the conversation for the top-5 wide receivers in the game already, I am not holding my breath for Jeudy to make this jump. To this point, there have been far more issues than opportunities with Jeudy’s game, and the numbers back that up.

https://predominantlyorange.com/2022/09/28/jerry-jeudy-earned-5th-year-option-denver-broncos/

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The Browns are not trading for Jeudy. No way, no how. Can't give away what's left of the 2023 draft for a wild card at WR. I know he puts up nice highlights, but he's been very inconsistent. His numbers aren't much different than DPJ, other than the fact that DPJ makes much tougher catches. Turning targets into catches has been a problem since he was drafted.

Bottom line: fun to watch -- when he's on!

Someone will overpay. It won't be Berry and the Browns.


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I don't know what the Browns will do and I am not an expert on the situation w/Jeudy. I am just leaning towards trading for him being a very risky move that has a better chance of backfiring than paying huge dividends.

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I doubt we give what the Broncos would want.

Berry would make the move if he feels it is a bargain.

I am uncertain about the draft this year. If we keep our picks. I want to go BPA.

Don't want to draft a receiver just get one.

I think we will add a receiver not sure who.

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I don't know what the Browns will do and I am not an expert on the situation w/Jeudy. I am just leaning towards trading for him being a very risky move that has a better chance of backfiring than paying huge dividends.

That's the nutshell. Couldn't have said it better.


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I read that JOK and Newsome are hoping that we resign Walker.

He was a well liked and respected with the Colts as well.

Very popular guy with the Browns staff and teammates. So, yes I am hoping we sign him.

He was playing well until getting injured.

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