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Missouri House lawmakers have voted against banning children from openly carrying firearms on public land without adult supervision.

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — Missouri's Republican-led House on Wednesday voted against banning minors from openly carrying firearms on public land without adult supervision.

The proposal to ban children from carrying guns without adult supervision in public failed by a 104-39 vote. Only one Republican voted in support of it.

Democratic Rep. Donna Baringer said police in her district asked for the change to stop “14-year-olds walking down the middle of the street in the city of St. Louis carrying AR-15s.”

“Now they have been emboldened, and they are walking around with them,” Baringer said. “Until they actually brandish them, and brandish them with intent, our police officers’ hands are handcuffed.”

Missouri lawmakers in 2017 repealed concealed carry requirements in most situations.

The measure was part of an hours-long House debate on the best way to fight crime, particularly in the St. Louis area.

Republican Rep. Lane Roberts — a former Joplin, Missouri police chief and state public safety director — initially included the restrictions on children possessing guns in a broader crime bill, which the House voted to give initial approval to later Wednesday. But lawmakers on a House committee that Roberts leads stripped the provision on guns last week.

“Every time we talked about the provision related to guns, we knew that that was going to be difficult on our side of the aisle,” Roberts said Wednesday.

Republicans decried the effort as an unneeded infringement on gun rights.

“While it may be intuitive that a 14-year-old has no legitimate purpose, it doesn't actually mean that they're going to harm someone. We don't know that yet,” said Rep. Tony Lovasco, a Republican from the St. Louis suburb of O'Fallon. “Generally speaking, we don't charge people with crimes because we think they're going to hurt someone.”

Other provisions in the measure would allow the governor to appoint a special prosecutor in counties with high crime rates, a provision targeted at St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner.

Republican lawmakers for years have criticized Gardner, a 47-year-old Democrat first elected in 2016 as St. Louis’ first Black female prosecutor.

She is one of several progressive prosecutors elected in recent years with a focus on creating more fairness in the criminal justice system. But Republican lawmakers say she's not doing enough to fight crime.

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/p.../63-1de59fc4-2078-4152-8761-b12d256ddc56

Not considered old enough to drive, vote, drink nor buy alcohol or serve in the military, let them walk down the street with semi automatic weapons with no adult supervision?

What could possibly go wrong?

So did you read the billor do you just simply rely on someone else to tell you children will be roaming in gangs with AR-15s?

The mere mention of public lands didn't clue you to the idea that minors can hunt without adult supervision?

Sounds safe enough. Not. Make it official for a few minor hunters wanting to go hunting without adult supervision while the majority of kids will be new gun owners, won’t be formally trained and won’t be hunting for wild game. What could possibly go wrong?

Kids have been hunting on their own forever. But let the party of panic continue to scare you.

I walked through town all the time with a gun as a kid. Shooting range was 1.5 miles away and I walked to and back from there carrying guns.

I think it should really be compulsory for all citizens regardless of age to carry guns on public lands all the time. MURICA - the answer is more guns. Definitely and always.

And you never shot your eye out??

On state land only. There's nothing about privately owned land.

In case you missed it GM, times have changed. Follow the news.

You saw the size of my nostrals didn't you.

I don't miss

I think it's safe to say that Schools are considered public land.., I'm not a lawyer,, but even I could drive a truck through that loophole...

I still can't believe that people defend this garbage.. over 50 mass shootings this year alone and idiots in congress are wearing pins that resemble an AK-47... How fricking moronic do they have to be.

And to defend this stuff, I just don't get it. NO WAY the founding fathers EVER thought we'd have the type of weapons we have today... NO WAY.

Just so you all know. I don't want your guns.. If you are a responsible person with no criminal record and no mental issues, have at it. Just please, no nut jobs with guns....

Much larger than the size of your bladder after your fourth beer.

Public land is usually things like state forests and parks, not schools. Schools would be covered federally under the Gun Free School Zone act. Allowing hunting on public land for minors is nothing new, heck even gun hating MD allows minors to hunt unaccompanied. They can even gasp buy their own ammo for rifles.

Who owns the land that your local school is situated on? The Feds, The State, The City? Either way, it's public land. I recognize when they use the term "public land" they general mean "Rural" or "unoccupied" land owned by a government entity. I get that. But my point was, the schools are on PUBLIC land and that's the loophole I mentioned.

Anyway, putting guns like those being discussed in the hands of teens and pre teens is just nutty. Have whatever beliefs you like, but today is today, this isn't yesterday when the world was a different place.

If guns are a god given right for US. Doesn’t it make sense that every US citizen should have been given a gun from god at birth. Right?

You have to understand, actual gun nuts believe babies should be given guns at birth. That children deemed not old enough to be responsible enough to buy a beer, vote, join the military or even what society has decided is not mature buy tobacco should be able to carry guns around in public. According to some, children that society had deemed to immature to do any of these things are mature enough to walk around with loaded weapons. Who knew?

Minimum Age to Purchase/Possess Ammunition

In Maryland, no person may sell, rent or transfer ammunition solely designed for a handgun or assault weapon to a person under age 21.7 No person may sell ammunition for any firearm to a person under age 18.8

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/ammunition-regulation-in-maryland/

Schools are considered private property. Just because property is owned by the government does not make it public land.

Schools are considered private property,, Owned by the schools or county or city or the feds.... Thus making them public. Again, you are missing the point about the loop hole..

No, schools are not public lands. Schools are publically owned property, so are military bases.

You mean you athiests didn't get one?

Actually your atheist assumption is wrong. Just because I don’t believe in your god doesn’t make me an atheist. But I’ll play.

Only the devil would easily hand over a loaded gun to a potential nut case, thug, or thief.

You say " if you are a responsible person with no criminal record and no mental issues have at it. " therein lies the problem.
well for one, in a certain part of history I'm sure the n azis who held the political and science areas of their gov't would have professed that simply being born from a Jewish mother would have been e@ual to both a criminal record and a mental issue, because the n azi's were evil.
autocorrect capitalized na zi , can you freakng belive it. ...
Well the ones today are the ones that put transsexuals on every tv show, like Bruce Jenner, and do all manner of things to make regular human beings, doing regular human things, like ac@uiring anesthesia for a surgery, and pretend that they are violating the false god of environment or environmental carbon footprint issues, and who think humanity = a crime like the fervent desire to not only abort babies in the woumb but also after they've been born.

why not just = what it really amounts to.
" if you are a responsible person with no criminal record and no mental issues," really means

if you are a popular person who lives your life jumping through all the govt's hoops and those other hoops over there, and the other hoops you didn't see yet, and the additional hoops we come up with next .. i.e
if you are a popular person, .. and cute enough, .. and don't or didn't rock the boat at all, or hang, or hung out with anyone else who rocked the boat a littl, at all and if you kept your hedges trimmed perfect,
and if you only ever smiled and didn't think for yourself when you were forced to be around thousand's of neighbors or "neighbours" b/c you have to spell it like the Brittish do, who would constantly interrupt your thinking
by getting in your face on a daily basis with things like " hey working hard or hardly working"
or from that movie Ground hog day,
wherein the guy at the top of the stairs says " off to see the groundhog?" or the other one tries to sell him life insurance and laughs at him getting wet by tripping into a puddle.

and if you worked extra hard just to be around workers you can't stand and who openly mocked abused and tried to stab you in the back and took food off your table for multiple years just so you could involuntarily be coorced into giving large portions of whatever you could have left to things like HOURS long diotrides of meetings on things like medicare part b, and cholesterol, and whaterver other evil predicament they'll put you in on an ongoing basis
or if you listened to propaganda about retirement for decades all the while knowing you can't afford to retire any more than you could afford to move to Beverly hills California, but if you do all of that,
and ...
here is the kicker, if you do all of that, and never even have sense enough to even know/feel/ or realize that it is going on,
and
if you are still popular and cute enough, according to the , well, you know, the one's in "charge" then
have at it,
have at it nobody is coming after your guns,
but the gov't , they don't want any nut jobs, or free thinking individuals, or anyone who @uestions, or anyone who has feeling, or any non conformists, or anyone who would object to an obviously and patently unrighteous or downright evil decree from the master of this world's government to have a gun.

and.
C'mon, kids shouldn't be carrying an arfifteen, ... keyboard still no one or five, Nobody should be carrying an AR I4
but,
... what this does, "what are we doing here" creating a whole new class of criminal, and children, in a country that locks up more of it's own people in jail than any other country on earth per capita.
Creating a whole new class of criminal, creating a whole new class of criminal again.

And, other than that.
I don't want anyone who is an irresponsible person, .. or non person like a LLC corporation, geesh, or with any criminal record, or any mental issues, to have a gun. Dang.

Well then there must be a lot of devils working out there


Sorry my mistake bro.


You mean you agnostics didn't get one?

Wrong again.

You people lol

What we really need in this country to fix all our problems is a brain-eating virus that targets stupid people. PROBLEMS SOLVED, next.

I would get lonely here all by myself

We don't need less people - WE just need more guns.