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I keep forgetting that the Panthers drafted Matt Corral. Lisfranc injury in the preseason kept him out all year. Maybe Jimmy G could be a bridge to him if Reich thinks he can make something of Corral.

This ^ is incorrect.

Prior Year Salary (PYS): A player's PYS is composed of his base salary, roster and reporting bonuses, prorated signing bonus and other payments to players for playing in the NFL for the previous league year -- except any performance bonuses outside of roster and reporting bonuses. This is important because the PYS is used for the calculations of the tags.

Non-exclusive franchise tag: A player who receives the non-exclusive franchise tag is free to negotiate with other teams. The player receives a one-year deal with a salary set at the greater of (a) the cap percentage average for his position (an amount equal to the sum of the franchise-tag figures at a player's position over the previous five seasons divided by the sum of the salary caps over the previous five seasons multiplied by the current year's salary cap) OR (b) 120 percent of his PYS (the player's cap number from the previous season, minus any performance incentives).

2023 non-exclusive franchise tag salaries:
Already set

QB: $32.416 million
RB: $10.091 million
WR: $19.743 million
TE: $11.345 million
OL: $18.244 million
DE: $19.727 million
DT: $18.937 million
LB: $20.926 million
CB: $18.140 million
S: $14.460 million
K/P: $5.393 million

Watson had zero bearing on the non-exclusive tag because his 2022 PYS was $9,395,500 and 10M in 2021.

Exclusive franchise tag: A player who receives the exclusive franchise tag cannot negotiate with other teams. The player receives a one-year deal for the greater of (a) the average of the five-largest PYS at his position at the conclusion of the restricted free agent signing period of the current league year (April 21 in 2023) or (b) the amount of the non-exclusive franchise tag. No player received the exclusive franchise tag in 2022.

Last player to receive an exclusive franchise tag: Dak Prescott (with the Cowboys in 2021).

Based on current salaries going into 2023 (updated on 3/9/2023) - this is the QB ranking in total cap salary used for the Exclusive tag. This could and will change prior to the April 21 deadline due to restructures, trades, etc but is really inmaterial since no player received an Exclusive Tag. As you can see, it's actually very different from the post above and the figures that would be used fpor the exclusive tag if nothing changed before April 21.

TOP QB SALARIES AS OF 3/9/2023
1. Watson CLE $54,993,000
2. Mahomes KCC $49,293,381
3. Prescott DAL $49,130,000
4. Allen BUF $39,772,281
5. Tannehill TEN $36,600,000
6. Cousins MIN $36,250,000
7. Ryan IND $35,205,882
8. Jackson BAL $32,416,000
9. Rodgers GBP $31,632,570
10. Gorr DET $30,975,000
11. Wilson DEN $22,000,000
12. Stafford LAR $20,000,000
13. Jones NYG $19,000,000
14. Murray ARI $16,007,000
15. Burrow CIN $11,515,043
16. Lawrence JAC $10,084,587
17. Tua MIA $9,633,033
18. Wilson NYJ $9,586,549
19. Lance SFO $9,301,434
20. Herbert LAC $8,456,876
21. Carr NOS $7,200,000
22. Fields CHI $5,146,896
23. Hurts PHI $4,789,486
24. Jones NEP $4,250,820
25. Pickett PIT $3,197,251
26. Smith SEA details of contract not available yet
27. Raiders - unknown
28. Tampa Bay - unknown
29. Houston - unknown
30. Carolina - unknown
31, Atlanta - unknown
32. Washington - unknown

Just an FYI, a Watson restructure in 2023 will put his cap hit for 2024, 2025, and 2026 at $66,223,000 per season.

Think you're jumping the gun a bit there. The amounts will depend on how exactly they restructure it. They don't have to convert all of it.

Edit: Just an FYI, if you're going to copy from an article, you should put the info in a quote box and provide a link.

this explains the lack of interest in Lamar

Normally I do, here's the link so you can verify what I posted as fact since that appears to be important to you.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2023-nfl-f...ormation-on-franchise-tags-contract-term

Oh, in case you feel you need to verify the salaries.

https://overthecap.com/calculator/cleveland-browns

No one's picking on you Steve. It's pretty much standard protocol around here... really most message boards. It helps a lot if someone wants more info relevant to the discussion.

The information has been supplied as requested. Excuse me for my error.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ne-of-las-pillars-despite-trade-chatter/

Is another veteran signal-caller on the market?

2023 NFL free agency rumors: Rams' GM calls Matthew Stafford one of L.A.'s 'pillars' despite trade chatter
Is another veteran signal-caller on the market?

By Cody Benjamin
11 hrs ago
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Once vaunted for their refusal to rebuild, the Rams are in teardown mode entering the 2023 NFL offseason. Big-name starters like Jalen Ramsey and Leonard Floyd have reportedly already been shopped on the trade market. Now quarterback Matthew Stafford may be among the potential casualties. Just a year after giving Stafford a $160 million contract extension following their Super Bowl run, Los Angeles has been calling teams about dealing the QB, according to NFL reporter Michael Lombardi.

"Matt Stafford is fully available," Lombardi said on "The Pat McAfee Show" Thursday. "They would love to trade [him]. They can't [easily] do it, because he's got $57 million guaranteed. [But] they're trying to get out from it. [They've] called teams, I know this."

While that may be the scuttlebutt surrounding Stafford in league circles, that's not the public stance of the Rams. During his pre-free agency press conference on Thursday, general manager Les Snead said that the team is "going to definitely rely on" Stafford, who he added is "one of our pillars."

"To me in a rebuild you would just bulldoze the house down, and again rebuilding from the ground up," said Snead, via NFL.com. "But when you have someone like Matthew Stafford, players like Cooper Kupp, Aaron Donald, there's some weight-bearing walls there that we still have, and we're going to rely on those -- don't want to put pressure on them -- and then at point remodel around them with maybe different teammates, different partners. And then even ask some of the players who've been here to keep evolving and going in that direction, so it'll be interesting.


Officially, Stafford's four-year, $160M extension includes $63M guaranteed, per Over the Cap. The Rams would actually absorb a net loss of $54M by trading Stafford before June 1. If they were to deal the QB after June 1, however, they'd instantly save $1.5M, as well as tens of millions from 2023-2026. That's discounting the possibility of another team taking on large portions of Stafford's guaranteed money, or renegotiating the contract entirely.

A prized acquisition for Sean McVay and the Rams ahead of the 2021 season, Stafford arrived from the Lions as part of a blockbuster trade package including two first-round draft picks. He threw a career-high 41 touchdowns while guiding L.A. to a Super Bowl LVI victory. But injuries wrecked his offensive line, his supporting cast -- and then his own health -- throughout 2022, in which he played just nine games and downplayed speculation of an early retirement.

Fully healthy, Stafford remains an above-average starter. But he also entered 2022 with questions about an injured elbow, and his contract would require clearing the aforementioned hurdles. So, whether that report is to be believed or not, it's unlikely he'd have a serious trade market until deep into the summer, provided there are still teams desperate for a proven starter.

That...and tape of him throwing the football.

Looks like the Rodgers trade to the Jets is going to happen.

I think the Pack got sick of Rodgers and his drama, just like they grew weary of Farve's constant drama.

And, it's on.........

That is a great deal for the Bears!

DJ Moore is an excellent WR. Who will the new guy throw to?

Wonder who they prefer?

Bryce Young? Small body type. They took Corral [spelling?] last year and he got hurt before the season.

Stroud? Best passer of the ball in the draft. Sometimes struggles w/the rush.

Richardson? Raw as can be. Inaccurate. Similar to Cam, who the Panthers once drafted.

...I guess that takes the Panthers out of the Lamar equation. I knew Tepper wanted a QB, but I didn't realize he was this desparate. I kind of feel sorry for whoever Carolina drafts. Who are they going to throw to now?

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If Fields can end up being their franchise QB, then this is a nice haul in terms of draft capital alongside Moore. Just not convinced yet that Fields is the guy.

I assume Carolina takes Bryce Young but he'll have nothing else around him and limited draft capital for a bit. I wouldn't be surprised if they sit him a year and ask him to add some weight while they build an offense.

I think it is clear the Jets really want Aaron Rodgers and the Packers are ready to move on from him. Consider this paragraph from a larger article.



That's almost $60 million for one year. The Jets will have to make a lot of moves in order to pay Rodgers. Also, Rodgers might be willing to restructure his contract like Watson has agreed to do in order to help the team.

Working out the all those details will have to be done before the Jets agree to the trade.

It looks like the bulk of this year's cap hit would stay with the Packers.

Just imagine, all it took for the Packers to move on from a top tier NFL QB was "some drama". Obviously the bar varies greatly from team to team in what they are and aren't willing to put up with and accept.

For some reason that sounds a little backwards. It's been stated all parties want a deal done before the FA market opens up. The legal tampering time period opens up on the 13th and the FA signing period opens on the 15th. It would seem the reports of them having the framework of a deal in place would make much more sense. Without having a framework in place they may not have enough time to get a deal done before free agency begins depending on how long it takes Rodgers to make his decision.

Anything is possible though I guess.

Can anyone give me some clarity about something?

I have heard over and over that Watson's contract is the 1st fully guaranteed contract. That owner's don't want another because one is an aberration but two is a trend.

However, in the past week or 2 I have seen/heard multiple times where people write or talk about how Cousin's had the 1st fully guaranteed
What's up with that?

There is a better article from the Boardroom, but it won't link to this site for some reason. However, it is right at the top of the page if you google Kirk Cousins guaranteed contract. Meanwhile, this following article is good, as well.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...alary-vikings/1oieg5elh71od1m7o4yztsrytr

Per the article you linked:

"The Vikings quarterback cashed in on a big-money deal in 2018, signing an NFL first fully guaranteed contract"
So why is the Watson contract so controversial?

I don't get the big deal about fully guaranteed contracts.
If you change the verbiage all contracts are fully guaranteed with the opportunity to earn a bonus.

I don't know the answer to your question about why Watson's deal is so controversial because I haven't looked into it. I probably won't either. LOL

Me either, because it is surely to become a norm eventually. Also we are getting beat up by the media for Watson's contract ... but why should we care if it hurts our opponents in the pocket book?

It's a sour grapes narrative imo.

It's because Cousins deal was for $84M fully guaranteed and Watson's was $230M. It's the magnitude of the total dollar amount that has other owners up in arms.

I think the point being made is that it's not just Browns opponents it hurts, but the Browns as well.

I could care less if it gets us a Supper Bowl and we have to blow it up.

And sadly people will be making excuses for it if it doesn't get the Browns to a SB with the familiar, "Well at least they tried" mantra.

It's going to be harder than ever for us to get to a Super Bowl in the next couple of years. With the right additions we could conceivably have the most talent on our team in 2023 since the mid 80's That's great but in the AFC, there are probably a good 6-7 teams with just as much talent or more and there are some getting stronger. Ramsey going to Miami is an example and if Rodgers goes to the Jets they become legit contenders. Our window is the next 2-3 years after that it could be rebuild time. JMO

Are you saying we should not try to win the Super Bowl so we don't have to make excuses? LOL.......you are such a joke!

I'm saying as with any business the return on your investment determines your is gauged strictly on success or failure is determined by the results and only the results. "Trying" doesn't determine success or failure.

The reality is that they've always been "trying". I'm pretty sure they were "trying" in 2020 when the Browns made the playoffs. I'm pretty sure they were "trying" in 2021 when they went 8-9 in and I'm willing to bet they were "trying" again in 2022 when they went 7-10. But "Trying wasn't good enough for you then. So why would paying a guy 230 dollars and failing make "Well at least they tried" any better?

I mean if you want to talk about someone being a joke.