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But it was going so well! 🤣

Wrap your mind around this... 86% of voters voted against her in a city where a mayor has been re-elected, at least once, for the last 40 years.

I guess ignoring crime and spitting at the feet of police doesn't pay.



Lori Lightfoot becomes the first Chicago mayor in 40 years to lose re-election
The embattled Democrat, who has been dogged by persistent crime in the city, failed to get enough votes to advance to an April runoff election.


Feb. 28, 2023, 9:50 PM EST
By Natasha Korecki
CHICAGO — Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot lost her bid for re-election Tuesday, ending her historic run as the city’s first Black woman and first openly gay person to serve in the position.

Lightfoot, a Democrat, failed to get enough votes in the nine-person race to move on to an April 4 runoff election, according to projections by The Associated Press.

Paul Vallas, a former CEO of Chicago schools, will face Brandon Johnson, a Cook County commissioner endorsed by the Chicago Teachers Union.

Ideologically, the choice between Vallas and Johnson is stark. Vallas ran as a moderate law-and-order candidate, while Johnson ran on an unabashedly progressive agenda.

But Chicagoans sent a message that they wanted change, rejecting both an incumbent mayor and a sitting congressman. Lightfoot is the first incumbent elected Chicago mayor to lose re-election since 1983, when Jane Byrne, the city's first female mayor, lost her primary.

Lightfoot conceded defeat Tuesday night at her party in downtown Chicago, saying, "Obviously we didn't win the election today, but I stand here with my head held high."

Lightfoot has been dogged by persistent crime, which has been a top concern among Chicagoans. Crime spiked during her term, though she has repeatedly touted that it dropped year-over-year in 2022.

Vallas was widely expected to emerge from the first round of voting, having built his campaign around a tough-on-crime theme and garnering support in the vote-rich northern and northwestern sides of the city. He also got the backing of the Chicago Fraternal Order of Police.

It's a bitter end to a tumultuous tenure for Lightfoot, who quickly developed an image as a national lightning rod for conservatives and repeatedly clashed with institutional interests, from the Chicago Teachers Union to the media to the police rank and file. She was at times lauded for her handling of the pandemic but saw violent riots in the wake of George Floyd's death at the hands of a white police officer in Minneapolis.

Lightfoot faced long odds and was in danger of an early re-election knockout. Having lost the support she once held along Chicago’s lakeshore neighborhoods and with major labor unions working against her, she was among seven Black candidates competing for votes among the city’s Black population. She faced stiff competition, particularly from Johnson, who had the backing and organizational benefits of the powerful Chicago Teachers Union, as well as Willie Wilson, a Black entrepreneur who had been polling ahead of Johnson.

Lightfoot's unfavorable ratings have soared with Chicagoans fed up with gun violence, as well as carjackings and robberies. And despite being the sitting mayor, she routinely failed to lead in recent polling, falling behind Vallas and Democratic Rep. Jesús "Chuy" Garcia. Later in the election, she took specific aim at Johnson, which many saw as a sign that her internal numbers showed him as a growing threat.

On the issue of crime, under Lightfoot, Chicago in 2021 recorded the most killings in a quarter-century, 797, and more than 3,500 shootings — which was 1,400 more than were recorded in 2019, when Lightfoot first took office. Lightfoot has made a point of noting that violence had eased by the end of last year.

But that hasn't eased anxieties among Chicagoans. A recent poll said 63% of Chicagoans said they didn't feel safe.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...ayor-40-years-lose-re-election-rcna71997

So losing the democratic bid to run for mayor against another democrat is the big news here?

No the news here is… a hated black woman with power is about to lose it. “Yay!”

She was completely incompetent. I am glad to see her gone. Chicago used to be an awesome place to visit. Hopefully the new mayor cracks down on the problems.

Obviously not quite as incompetent as the Atlanta major. Who ever that is. Maybe your focus should stay more local and stop pointing fingers at other cities and states.

Arguing which city's situation is the shinier turd never really goes that far.

That wasn’t the point. When someone claims the mayor of a city they don’t live in is incompetent……So I pointing out the city Eve claims to live in has a
mayor that’s even more incompetent and she should focus more locally. Fair game, no?

Chicago has been the target of their ire for a very long time now. I've even shown how the crime rate per capita is worse in some rural counties across America but it does no good. They've found a target and won't let go.

Yeah I guess. I’ve been to Atlanta twice and robbed once. I’ve been to Chicago dozens of times and never been harmed.

I can have an opinion about Chicago if I feel like it. Kick rocks. Lightfoot was beyond terrible.

#target


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But as long as crime is worse somewhere else...

You guys are "special".

Nothing special about pointing out that Chicago has been the focus of the right wing while crime rates are actually higher elsewhere. Yes, the jokes keep writing themselves.

Uh huh... well here's what the "left winger" did as soon as she hit the front door.

Poor little #target



Police Exodus Leaves Chicago PD Short On Cops, Drains Pension System

NEWS
Sandy Malone
August 18, 2020
Chicago, IL – A mass exodus of Chicago police officers who have filed for retirement in recent months will leave the city short of cops and hurt the pension system.

Fifty-nine Chicago police officers retired in August and another 51 officers have filed to retire in September, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

“That’s unheard of,” Michael Lappe, vice president of the board of trustees for the Policemen’s Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago, said. “We’re seeing double the average number of retirees each month. The average is about 24 a month.”

Lappe blamed a changed in officers’ health insurance benefits but the president of the Chicago police union blamed the wave of retirements on a lack of support from Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

Police pension records showed there were 335 retirements between January and July so far this year, the officers leaving in August and September bring that total to 445.

There were 475 retirements total in 2019 and 339 retirements total in 2018, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

Chicago Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) President John Catanzara said the exodus of officers would leave the Windy City short of police.

“I have no doubt that it’s going to continue, and I can clearly see a smaller spike within the upper ranks [of] lieutenants and above,” Catanzara told the Chicago Sun-Times. “Who wants to stay in this environment? If you have the ability to leave, there is no incentive to stay anymore.”

“The mayor doesn’t back us,” he added. “If you have the financial ability to do so, I don’t blame a single soul for leaving.”

The union boss and the mayor have been at odds for months over controversial police reform proposals in the wake of the death of 46-year-old George Floyd in the custody of the Minneapolis police, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

Catanzara and Lightfoot have also battled over the police contract which has been expired since 2017.

Chicago Alderman Anthony Beale said he realized how many officers were leaving when he visited police headquarters for a meeting a week ago, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

Beale was previously the chairman of the Chicago City Council’s police committee, and as such has many acquaintances on the force.

“From the time I walked in to the police headquarters to the time I left, which was about 35 minutes, there were nine or 10 officers who approached me and said they were leaving,” he said. “Every person who walked past me said, ‘Hey, Beale, I’m out of here.’”

The numbers might be surprising to some given that the Chicago Police Department reported that staffing had hit a 10-year high of 13,350 officers in 2019, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

But by March, there were only 13,100 officers left on the police force.

“We’re way short of officers now, and I’m afraid, as people go to retire, we’re going to be even further short of officers on the street,” Beale worried. “We’re working officers double-time, triple-time. It’s only a matter of time before officers are totally burned out.”

Lappe expressed concern that the pension system’s financial health would suffer under the weight of a prolonged wave of unanticipated retirements, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

He said that right now, there are 850 more retirees drawing a pension than actual active-duty officers patrolling Chicago’s streets.

Lappe said that 20 years ago those numbers were greatly reversed, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

Pension records showed that in 2000, about 3,000 more active-duty cops were on the payroll than retirees collecting pensions, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.


https://policetribune.com/police-exodus-leaves-chicago-pd-short-on-cops-drains-pension-system/

And still nobody is stopping you from posting your Goper nonsense are they Karen? Lol

I'm certainly not one of her apologists. I would want someone tougher on crime as my mayor as well. This is trending much like what happened in New York City when Eric Adams was elected mayor. He is much more of a moderate democrat with a law enforcement background who has a tougher stance on crime. I actually disagreed with her on a umber of issues. It seems Chicago voters are following much the same path as New York City voters and I for one don't blame them.

But that really isn't what we've been discussing to this point.

Hey libtard, all you have in this forum is made up crap, whataboutisms, and deflections.

Probably as it should be. She wasn't that great as a mayor anyway..

Hey Eve, Atlanta ain't no picnic... Truth hurts....

Proof that Zombie's can die.

Truth: I never understood how this individual could have ever won the job.

In every press conference, every interview, every photo-op, my confusion was never resolved.
I've always found her to be a wholly unimpressive politician/public figure.

That she was unseated in the primaries really tells you something.
I guess everyone else could (or couldn't) see it, too.
Especially the folks in 312, who saw had a daily diet of her.

Say goodbye to a blip on the screen.
First incumbent to not repeat in almost a half-century.

I guess in a a way, she made history twice.


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policetribune.com? Well, I'm sure that's an unbiased source. Smh. But I'm happy you were able to dig this up. It shows your enthusiasm for police retirement. Maybe you have found your new calling. The old man who posts ridiculous policetribune.com articles. I can see that as your future, FATE.

Of course they're biased. They're cops who got shafted and thrown to the wolves by the city's "glass ceiling" mayor. Duh.

So bad that she couldn't even make it to a run off.

BTW, you forgot to say ultra MAGA Trumpians. Troll.

I wouldn't call you a troll. But the ultra MAGA part sounds like a good fit. Excellent article, and it left you entirely exposed as the defender of the blue... blah blah blah. I don't trust GOPers who say they are for the cops. January 6th taught me that much.


And yes Lightfoot failed miserably; not as bad as Trumpians, but bad. And hundreds of cops quitting in Chicago might turn out to be a good thing in the end. The world could use more gen z cops. Maybe Chicago can have some cops that haven't been indoctrinated or infiltrated by right-wing White Supremacists Hate groups.

There you go.

Trump
MAGA
White Supremacy
January 6th
Right-wing hate groups

All in one post.

Troll.

Oh yes, I'll admit to trolling the vile Trumpian GOPers. Maybe you haven't heard about Jan 6th. Maybe you haven't heard about the traitorous Trumpians. Or maybe you have your head in the sand and don't want apparent truths pointed out. Either way I'm happy to be your troll. So, suck it up, buttercup, and remember, if you hang with filth, you should expect to be treated like dirt.

I'm not pointing my finger at FATE here per say, but they support the blue until it comes to gun laws. As with most things in life they pick and choose. I'm no different really. I don't have a party that represents me. But police across this country are tired of being outgunned. They're tired of watching even more guns laws passed that allow anyone to carry high powered rifles on the street. And most of the GOP certainly doesn't support them on that. Then they "blame the libs" for high crime and gun deaths.

The police have an exemption for every single gun law already on the books. They want machine guns they have em. They want armors vehicles, they have them. They have qualified immunity in situations where you would go to jail. The rules of engagement for police are far more open than for you.

Out gunned? Not even close. They are, however, saddled with people who think they should make the job harder by second guessing every move. They have to deal with stupid lines like why didn't he just shoot the gun out of the bad guys hands?" They have to deal with being told that policing itself is systemic racism and it should be abolished.

One last thing, most street crime is done with hand guns, not "high powered rifles". More of the Bloomburg/Giffords nonsense spin.

So are you trying to say that police departments across the nation aren't opposed to gun laws that allow things like permitless carry? And I didn't say that most street crime was committed by long guns.

Law Enforcement Leaders Express Opposition to the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act

https://www.theiacp.org/news/blog-p...n-to-the-concealed-carry-reciprocity-act

Georgia Law Enforcement Speaks Out Against Permit-less Carry Bill

https://www.georgiademocrat.org/georgia-law-enforcement-speaks-out-against-permit-less-carry-bill/

‘They will come to know the lives they didn’t save’: States forge ahead with permitless carry legislation despite law enforcement opposition

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/05/us/permitless-carry-laws-advance-in-states/index.html

Outgunned with fire power, law enforcement dealing with dangerous criminals on the streets

https://www.wbrz.com/news/outgunned...with-dangerous-criminals-on-the-streets/

Like I said, the entire "Blue lives matter" movement only exists until it doesn't.

I did not come close to saying that, but thanks for trying.

So just like you trying to indicate that I blamed long guns for most street crimes? Got it. I would just like to remind you that a question mark poses a question not a statement or accusation. But thanks for trying.

He answered your dumb question. ?

You said they were outgunned (they are not) and implies it is due to high powered rifles".


You are welcome for yet another lesson.

Outgunned with fire power, law enforcement dealing with dangerous criminals on the streets

https://www.wbrz.com/news/outgunned...with-dangerous-criminals-on-the-streets/

That's what they are saying. Of course I'm sure you think you know more than the police. And what you quoted does not say anything about long guns being used for most street crimes.

If you can ever manage to teach a lesson I will thank you for it. That's not the case here.

Nobody asked you Squeaky. Things get even dumber when you chime in.

One cannot teach one who will not learn.

Catch 22…One must be capable to teach. Lol not u.

I guess that's all you have left after being shown you were wrong.

You refuse to learn. It was shown, but simple grammar rules and conventions seem to escape your ability to comprehend, thus you, yet again, fail to understand the words you wrote.

LAPD initially outgunned in thwarted bank robbery shown on live TV

https://www.csmonitor.com/1997/0303/030397.us.us.5.html

Outgunned with fire power, law enforcement dealing with dangerous criminals on the streets

https://www.wbrz.com/news/outgunned...with-dangerous-criminals-on-the-streets/

Outgunned

There is a tendency among all law enforcement to believe that no matter the odds, their bravery and training can save the day. It’s an instinct that a good SWAT officer must overcome. Because believe it or not, there are times when even a SWAT team may be outgunned or otherwise need help.

https://www.policemag.com/special-units/article/15349761/outgunned



It's not I who is arguing against what the police are saying. It seems you think you know more than police officers do. That's just sad.

Individual incidents do not prove a trend. You've been schooled on statistics here before by other posters.

I know you will just google, headline read and post your confirmation news stories. The police are not outgunned. They have lots of them, they have really good ones and there are a lot of police (meaning if they think they are outgunned they can call more).

Believe what you want to believe, or don't. I don't care.