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Matt Gaetz's legislative aide is a convicted war criminal who murdered an Afghan civilian and dumped his body in a latrine

A legislative aide who advises Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz on military issues is a convicted war criminal, according to The Intercept.

The report said that the aide, Derrick Miller, previously served in the US Army and spent eight years in prison after he was convicted at court-martial of murdering an Afghan civilian, Atta Mohammed, during a 2010 interrogation.

A spokesperson for Gaetz defended the decision to hire Miller, saying the former sergeant was wrongly convicted and now advises Gaetz's office on issues including laws governing the military justice system.

According to The Intercept, Miller shot Mohammed in September 2010. Spc. Charles Miller, a National Guard member and an eyewitness to the incident, testified that he heard Miller threatening to kill Mohammed if he didn't tell the truth. Miller then sat atop Mohammed, who was 27 years old, and shot him in the head, according to Charles Millers' testimony.

"Immediately following the event the accused said, 'I shot him. He was a liar,'" Maj. Matt Calarco, the prosecuting lawyer, said during Miller's trial in 2011.

Afterward, Mohammed's body was left in a latrine, in violation of military standards.

Miller's lawyer argued that he had acted in self-defense and that Mohammed had tried to take Miller's weapon during the interrogation.

"We proudly stand with our Military Legislative Assistant Derrick Miller," Joel Valdez, a spokesperson for Gaetz, said in a statement to The Intercept. "He was wrongfully convicted and served our country with honor."

He added: "Over the course of nearly a decade, members of Congress, multiple advocacy groups, and over 16,000 individuals on a petition have all signaled their support for clearing his name and recognizing him as innocent of charges imposed by a weaponized military injustice system under President Obama. Mr. Miller advises our office on many matters, including ways to make the military justice system consistent with our constitutional principles and values."

Insider reached out to Miller for comment without reply Thursday.

Gaetz, meanwhile, is one of the most vocal anti-interventionist Republicans in Congress and has advocated for scaling back US support for Ukraine, breaking with most colleagues on the House Armed Services Committee. He's a close ally of former President Donald Trump, who pardoned war criminals and has said some of them have been "treated very unfairly."

In 2020, Gaetz surprised fellow Republicans when he voted in favor of a war powers resolution to limit Trump's ability to take military action against Iran without congressional approval.

The Florida congressman also repeatedly criticized the war in Afghanistan before President Joe Biden withdrew US troops in 2021. After the withdrawal, Gaetz said he supported Biden's decision but criticized the "strategy and tactics" surrounding the pullout as "horrific and incompetent." More recently, Gaetz pushed for resolutions to pull US troops from Syria and Somalia.

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“I never said that”….Lol “I pay taxes”…lol..”Never broke a law”. Lol “ok I’ve gotten a few speeding tickets.” “Should we talk about that too” eww boy.


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Bill Barr: DOJ’s Trump classified documents probe ‘the most serious one out there’

Former Attorney General Bill Barr said that even as former President Trump faces an indictment in a New York state criminal case, his most serious legal troubles may lie in the federal investigation into his mishandling of classified information.

“I think the document case is the most serious case,” Barr said on “Fox News Sunday.” “I don’t think they went after those documents to get Trump. I think they actually wanted the documents back.”

Barr, who served as Trump’s chief law enforcement official from 2019 to 2020, contrasted what he saw as the seriousness of the documents probe against the Manhattan case that has led to an indictment of the former president, which he called a political prosecution.

“Based on what we know, it certainly appears to be,” Barr said on Sunday when asked if he thinks last week’s indictment of Trump is a “political” prosecution. “I think the American people see that… pursuing a person rather than pursuing a real crime.”

But Barr said he thinks the documents probe being led by a special counsel at the Department of Justice is a more legitimate investigation.

The investigation stems from the discovery that Trump took classified information from his time in the Oval Office, with a search warrant being executed in August on his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida for the documents.

“What’s at issue in that case is not the taking of the documents,” Barr said. “It’s what he did after the government sought them and subpoenaed them, and whether there was any obstruction. And I think that’s the most serious one out there.”

Trump has shrugged off all investigations into him, both at the state and federal level, and has framed them as witch hunts.

Barr on Sunday also downplayed the seriousness of the other federal investigation into Trump, which is focused on his efforts to overturn the 2020 election and actions on the day of the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol riots.

“I think the January 6th one, is a difficult case to make,” Barr said. “It also runs into First Amendment issues. You know, where are you going to draw the line between legitimate First Amendment activity, protesting an election and actually conspiring to undo an election?”

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday...EVKbcmdxEb1ey_GphFvRXB5K78YbhXdtvhAHieTA

While I agree with Barr about the documents case being far more serious than the Manhattan charges, I would rank the Georgia election interference charges right up there with the documents.

But I think someone needs to remind these people that to some extent a very real part of this case has already been adjudicated in the Michael Cohen trial. Nobody was claiming it didn't deserve to be investigated. Nobody was claiming he didn't deserve to be charged. Nobody was up in arms when he was sentenced. No, none of what these Republicans are saying is about the fact that it has already been proven there were certainly crimes that were committed in this incident, that charges about this case were already filed and a conviction was reached. It's about who is at the center of it all. That he is above a grand juries findings, and that it is a grand jury that found enough evidence was there to bring this to trial.

Since we already know that a court of law has spoken in regards to Cohen being convicted, all that's needed is a paper trail and corroborating testimony that would tie trump into those crimes. Even when and if that is done, they'll still claim it was political and ignore the fact that a former suspect was convicted concerning these same events. Same as it ever was.


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I'm just wondering where all the posters are to call her out on her whatabouts.


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Another 4chan ‘Keyboard Commando’ Busted for Threatening Sheriff

Another 4chan user has been arrested for allegedly threatening a crusading Florida sheriff—who noted that this suspect, like the last one, still lives with his mother.

Tyler Meyer, 30, was picked up on Friday in San Diego and charged with making a written threat to kill or injure. He will be extradited from California.

“See you in sunny Florida,” Volusia County Sheriff Mike Chitwood posted on Facebook with a mugshot of the shaggy suspect.

His arrest came just a few days after Chitwood greeted another 4chan commenter, Richard Golden, at the airport when he was extradited from New Jersey for allegedly making similar threats.

Chitwood has become a target of what he calls “keyboard commandos” for speaking out loudly and frequently against white supremacists who have infiltrated his county.

“It’s too bad Mike Chitwood isn’t safe now that I’m planning to kill him,” Meyer allegedly wrote on a 4chan board labeled “Politically Incorrect,” according to the sheriff.

“I’m going to shoot Mike Chitwood. I’m going to kill him by shooting him to death.”

The FBI alerted Chitwood to the threat and traced it to Meyer, who eventually admitted writing it, he said. Guns and ammunition were seized from his home when the San Diego Police showed up.

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Still living with mom at 30 tells me everything I need to know.


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Still living with mom at 30 tells me everything I need to know.

According to some on the board only liberals live in their parent’s basement… hmmm.


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Smh the MAGA idiot train on Twitter is fuming about Bud Light working with a trans person in a promotion. rolleyes

Kid Rock comes out in a video with his back turned, turns around, says he has a message, picks up his AR, and shoots a few 12pks/cases. Kid Rock is a transphobic fascist POS.



I can't post his video for all the F-bombs, but here is a fanboy's tweet to take you to the thread.

Why does the existence of transgender people so threaten these beta men?

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Well I applaud Bud Light. Just like I applaud Disney. Embracing and promoting LGBQT is a politically charged marketing strategy for any company.... of course it SHOULDN'T be but it is. As you say - why it instills so much fear and hatred is odd.

To me it is interesting that the far right nationalists, white supremacists and anti-gay/LGBQT groups and population far and away all support Trump and the GOP. It is this group of voters who previously probably didn't vote that Trump has pulled into the political orbit and who now vote .... without them the GOP loses in a one sided loss. Because they need that element and some kowtow to them, that you have politicians like MTG and Matt Gaetz.


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LGBTQ herding has become a pastime for them. They're doing everything in their power to herd them back into the closet and standing against anyone who isn't. And using Kid rock as he poses with guns as someone they agree with speaks volumes.

And people wonder why I tell liberals to arm themselves.


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Republicans Are Trying to Kick Dems Out of Office for Protesting Gun Violence

Three Tennessee lawmakers joined a student protest days after a mass shooting at a Nashville school. One Republican compared the protest to Jan. 6.

Tennessee’s ruling Republican Party appears set to expel three Democratic legislators from office as retribution for joining massive protests for gun reform following last week’s tragic school shooting in Nashville.

Republicans filed and quickly passed motions Monday to expel Democratic Reps. Justin Jones, Gloria Johnson, and Justin Pearson, claiming that when they joined the protest last week on the House floor they “did knowingly and intentionally bring disorder and dishonor to the House of Representatives through their individual and collective actions.” The motion passed overwhelmingly on a party-line vote, as protesters at the Capitol chanted “Fascists!”

On March 30, three days after a mass shooter killed six people at Nashville private school, Jones, Johnson, and Pearson joined protesters chanting for gun reform while on the floor of the House, using a megaphone.

“We occupied the House floor today after repeatedly being silenced from talking about the crisis of mass shootings,” Jones, who represents a district in Nashville, said in a tweet that day. “We could not go about business as usual as thousands were protesting outside demanding action.”



The final vote on expulsion is set for Thursday. Jones, Johnson, and Pearson will have the opportunity to defend themselves, but with a supermajority, there’s little that can be done to stop the Republicans from kicking them out of office, according to the Tennessean.

“We’ll not be intimidated. THE PEOPLE are demanding we act to stop kids from being murdered in school,” Jones tweeted Monday night, along with a photo of the resolution.



“A week after six people were slaughtered in a Tennessee school shooting, House Republicans are taking action,” Johnson tweeted Monday night. “Not to stop gun violence. But to silence voices who are calling for reform. We will not be silent.”



Republican leaders have said the three House Democrats are being punished for speaking out of order and “disorderly behavior,” and compared last week’s protests to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, despite zero people being injured. On Monday, Jones and Johnson were removed from their committee assignments (Pearson does not sit on any committees).

Jones, a Black Democrat from Nashville, told reporters Monday that Republicans were “trying to make an example of us and called it a “political lynching.” Johnson raised several examples of egregious conduct by Republicans in recent years which didn’t result in expulsion.

“We had a child molester on the floor for years, they helped him get reelected and did nothing to expel him,” Johnson told the Tennessean. “We’ve had members pee in each other’s chairs. We’ve had members illegally prescribe drugs to their cousin-mistress, and nothing happened.”

“But talk on the floor without permission, and you’ll get expelled,” Johnson said. (Only two people have been expelled from the Tennessee House since the end of the Civil War, according to the Tennessean; the most recent was GOP Rep. Jeremy Durham in 2016, for sexual misconduct.)

The three lawmakers have also had their access to some areas of the Capitol restricted, including the legislative office building and parking garage. Johnson told the Tennessean that the restrictions prevented her from getting her mobility scooter, which was inside the building.

On Monday night, as protesters filled the gallery as Republicans voted in favor of expelling the three Democrats, Jones accused Republican Rep. Justin Lafferty—who two years ago argued in defense of the Three-Fifths Compromise on the same House floor—of pushing him and grabbing his phone.

Video posted by Jones shows Lafferty turning towards Jones, the camera shaking, and someone saying, “Get your hand off of me.”



Tennessee House Speaker Cameron Sexton, a Republican, suggested last week that the protests—largely led by high school students and other young people who’ve been subjected to the threat of mass gun violence their entire lives—were worse than the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S Capitol.

“Two of the members, Reps. Jones and Johnson, have been very vocal about Jan. 6 in Washington, D.C., about what that was,” Sexton told a Knoxville radio station. “What they did today was at least equivalent, maybe worse, depending on how you look at it, of doing an insurrection in the Capitol.”

Sexton said in a Monday tweet thread that he was talking about the Democratic lawmakers, not the “peaceful protesters” at the Capitol.

“We have heard the voices of the students, the protestors, and individuals from across the state,” Sexton said Monday. “We cannot allow the actions of the three members to distract us from protecting our children. We will get through this together, and it will require talking about all solutions.”

Tennessee Republicans have so far offered no indication they’ll reform gun laws. Instead, Gov. Bill Lee proposed a budget Monday that includes $140 million to increase armed security at schools, according to the Tennessean.

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I don't doubt it. Former Speaker Glen Casada, 63, a Republican, and his top aide, Cade Cothren, 35, were charged with conspiracy to commit theft from programs receiving federal funds; bribery and kickbacks concerning programs receiving federal funds; honest services wire fraud; and conspiracy to commit money laundering. It took years to do anything about that while Casda remained in office. But there were no crimes being accused of or committed by these democrats they're trying to kick out of office.

I'm sure you love such a double standard. You know, anything to keep your side in power no matter what.


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It's a great state.


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It's a great state.
I did not like Memphis but the rest that I have visited is nice. I won't hold sickness against Knoxville and the PA that treated me was awesome.

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“…Republicans in recent years which didn’t result in expulsion.

“We had a child molester on the floor for years, they helped him get reelected and did nothing to expel him,” Johnson told the Tennessean. “We’ve had members pee in each other’s chairs. We’ve had members illegally prescribe drugs to their cousin-mistress, and nothing happened.” “


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When it holds such a double standard I understand how someone like you would think so. It's a great place to live but the politics are off the chain.


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When it holds such a double standard I understand how someone like you would think so. It's a great place to live but the politics are off the chain.


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Where's a good yawn emoji when you need one? Once again you're welcome.


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Ohio 'White Lives Matter' member used Molotov cocktails on church in an attempt to stop drag shows, authorities say

Aimenn Penny, 20, of Alliance, is charged with malicious use of explosive materials and possessing a destructive device, according to the Justice Department.

An Ohio man who is a member of a White Lives Matter group told the FBI during an interview Friday he used Molotov cocktails on a church hoping to burn it down and stop a drag show, federal authorities allege.

Aimenn Penny, 20, of Alliance, was arrested last week and charged with one count of malicious use of explosive materials and one count of possessing a destructive device, according to a statement from the U.S. Department of Justice.

A criminal complaint and affidavit said personnel with the Community Church of Chesterland reported March 25 that the church had been damaged during the night by what appeared to be Molotov cocktails. Personnel with the church believed the attack was connected to the “church’s planned hosting of two drag show events on April 1, 2023,” the complaint said.

Damage to the church included scorch marks on the front door, scorch marks on the exterior of the building, and a broken sign on the southeast corner of the property, the complaint said.

On its website, the house of worship said it is "a church of extravagant welcome, inclusion, and justice."

Chester Township Police recovered broken pieces of a Denaka vodka bottle and broken pieces of a Corona beer bottle. The bottles contained a cloth-type material that appeared to be pink or purple. A burnt matchstick and a blue plastic spray bottle filled with gasoline were found near the damaged door, the complaint said.

The FBI's Cleveland field office received information that Penny was responsible for the attack, the complaint said, and that he was a member of the Ohio branch of the White Lives Matter group.

Penny's attorney John Greven declined comment Monday.

“White Lives Matter is a group with racist, pro-Nazi, and homophobic views,” the complaint said. “At a March 11, 2023, drag queen event in Wadsworth, Ohio, members of White Lives Matter “showed up at the event carrying swastika flags and shouting racial and homophobic slurs and ‘Heil Hitler.’”

Penny went to Wadsworth before the March 11 drag queen event in order to distribute White Lives Matter fliers and the group's anti-drag queen views, according to the complaint.

He then attended the event as a protester and wore military-style clothes, including a tactical vest and camouflage pants, the complaint said.

Last October, Alliance police saw Penny posting fliers on their cruisers. He then told police about his disdain for Black people, the complaint said.

He "wanted to educate everyone about their violence toward white Americans," the complaint said. “He believed African Americans were solely responsible for the high crime rate across the country. Penny further made it clear that he believes — and looks forward to — the civil war coming between races."

Penny’s phone was examined following a court order and its GPS data showed the phone was in the vicinity of his home between 11 p.m. and about 11:30 p.m. March 24. However, between 1 a.m. and 1:31 a.m. March 25, the phone was on the site of the Community Church of Chesterland, the complaint said.

Authorities executed a search warrant on Penny’s home Friday and he spoke with the FBI, the complaint said.

He admitted he used Molotov cocktails on the church, the complaint said.

“Penny stated that he was trying to protect children and stop the drag show event. Penny described using bottles from his bedroom and detailed the ingredients and steps he used to build and use the devices. Penny stated that night he became more and more angry after watching internet videos of news feeds and drag shows in France and decided to attack the church,” the complaint said.

Community Church of Chesterland acknowledged Penny’s arrest in a Facebook statement: “Thank you to the investigative bodies responsible for moving so quickly to make this arrest.

"While we are sorry this happened and forgive the individual in question, we would like to see him prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as a way to send a message to other like minded people and groups that violence as a form of coercion to advance any kind of agenda is unacceptable in 2023," it said.

The search of Penny’s home turned up a “hand-written manifesto that contained ideological statements, a Nazi flag, Nazi memorabilia, a White Lives Matter of Ohio t-shirt, a gas mask, multiple rolls of blue painters tape and gas cans,” according to the complaint.

First Assistant U.S. Attorney Michelle M. Baeppler for the Northern District of Ohio said in the Justice Department statement: “Violence and destruction are never an acceptable way to express a disagreement with a particular viewpoint.” She added, “While, as Americans, we enjoy the right to disagree, doing so peacefully is the only appropriate option.”

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I don't care about Trans or Drag Queens/Shows for ADULTS. But they should not be forcing that on children and grooming them. Nor should they be mutilating genitals of children. These kids havent even hit puberty or matured mentally. How the f are they supposed to know how they feel sexually? A LOT of young people experiment sexually when they are young. It does not mean you should cut their breasts or dicks off. You libtards are a bunch of sickos.


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So you object to parental rights when it comes to their children? Funny how that works. Much like you I'm opposed to sexual reassignment surgery for minors. But I don't think I have the right to force my beliefs on parents with children who are not my own.

So parents shouldn't be the people to decide if their children go to see a drag show either?

And I have no idea what that has to do with some extremist racist setting fire to a church that was going to hold a drag show.

There's that libtard tag again! I knew we could count on you!

Vers should be along any minute now to admonish you. No, wait, he won't.

Who is "forcing" drag shows on children?


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https://www.newsweek.com/public-sch...ut-telling-their-parents-opinion-1776503

Yeah, what about parental rights? Dont parents who dont want this forced on their kids have rights also?


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Yes they do deserve to have that choice and that should never have been done without parental permission.

Then let's look at the other extreme. I think it's fine that people choose not to allow their children to learn things such as CRT and other racial classes. But their way of doing that is to forbid such classes be held at all in any school which takes away the choice for parents who do want their children to learn about such things in school. If those on the right were so concerned about a parents right to choose for their children they wouldn't be taking away the choices of parents who disagree with their politics.

I see you did find one example to prove your point and I agree with your point. There are entire states whose politicians have proven my point on the same matter. Parental rights.


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And that's fine. But when one focuses on one aspect of parental rights while excluding others they're really not addressing parental rights.


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It's a great state.
I did not like Memphis but the rest that I have visited is nice. I won't hold sickness against Knoxville and the PA that treated me was awesome.

Nobody in the state likes Memphis either.


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I don't care about Trans or Drag Queens/Shows for ADULTS. But they should not be forcing that on children and grooming them. Nor should they be mutilating genitals of children. These kids havent even hit puberty or matured mentally. How the f are they supposed to know how they feel sexually? A LOT of young people experiment sexually when they are young. It does not mean you should cut their breasts or dicks off. You libtards are a bunch of sickos.

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Originally Posted by EveDawg
I don't care about Trans or Drag Queens/Shows for ADULTS. But they should not be forcing that on children and grooming them. Nor should they be mutilating genitals of children. These kids havent even hit puberty or matured mentally. How the f are they supposed to know how they feel sexually? A LOT of young people experiment sexually when they are young. It does not mean you should cut their breasts or dicks off. You libtards are a bunch of sickos.

Is gender reassignment the same as gender mutilation?

Or is a political perspective?

If the Republican mantra is individual freedom, why is this not a decision between a doctor and a family?


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I don't care about Trans or Drag Queens/Shows for ADULTS. But they should not be forcing that on children and grooming them. Nor should they be mutilating genitals of children. These kids havent even hit puberty or matured mentally. How the f are they supposed to know how they feel sexually? A LOT of young people experiment sexually when they are young. It does not mean you should cut their breasts or dicks off. You libtards are a bunch of sickos.

Is gender reassignment the same as gender mutilation?

Or is a political perspective?

If the Republican mantra is individual freedom, why is this not a decision between a doctor and a family?

Why would a family or a doctor get to decide a child's gender and remove their genitalia? That is a personal decision for an individual to make when they are hormonally, emotionally,and mentally mature enough to make that decision. as in being an adult. You are disgusting.


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Fair enough, but I have seen children that were obviously different as young as the age of three.

If the parents are in agreement and supportive as they approach maturity, why is this an issue that requires government intervention?

Not trying to be disgusting, but facts, experiences and observations are just that.

It is almost as incomprehensible as allowing a 16 year old to be married, with parental consent, which is the law in some states…


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Because some parents dont understand that its a life altering decision and sterilizing children or removing breasts can ruin their life when they grow up and realize they really dont feel like a boy and maybe they wanted their own kids. There are also wack job parents out there. The govt needs to step in to protect the children.


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The following is True

I have 6 sisters that reached the age of maturity.

First sister married and pregnant at 17. After divorce with two children husband put a bullet through his head.

Second sister married an pregnant at 15. After divorce and two children, he also put a bullet through his head.

Third sister married and pregnant at 15. Their marriage lasted about 12 years.

Fourth sister married at 18, nothing remarkable.

Fifth sister pregnant at 17, would not marry, see 1,2, and 3. Gave baby up for adoption and later reconnected. He grew up under less than ideal circumstances, but is a good person.

Sixth sister married at 16, and threatened parents to get pregnant if not allowed to marry.

6 sisters, 18 marriages, don’t talk to me about life altering decisions… it works both ways.


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Originally Posted by WooferDawg
The following is True

I have 6 sisters that reached the age of maturity.

First sister married and pregnant at 17. After divorce with two children husband put a bullet through his head.

Second sister married an pregnant at 15. After divorce and two children, he also put a bullet through his head.

Third sister married and pregnant at 15. Their marriage lasted about 12 years.

Fourth sister married at 18, nothing remarkable.

Fifth sister pregnant at 17, would not marry, see 1,2, and 3. Gave baby up for adoption and later reconnected. He grew up under less than ideal circumstances, but is a good person.

Sixth sister married at 16, and threatened parents to get pregnant if not allowed to marry.

6 sisters, 18 marriages, don’t talk to me about life altering decisions… it works both ways.

What's your point? They should have become guys?

Anyway...that sounds screwed up for sure. Hopefully your life has gone a little smoother.


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I am pretty sure that he is saying people make bad decisions all the time that change their lives forever. And that that includes young people. Pointing out that once the government starts making decisions for people, where dies it stop?

We are already telling teenagers that they can't get abortions (discussion for another thread). Does the give then say it's illegal to have children out of wedlock? Then these teenagers have to get married ...then y you can only let yoyr children read certain things (starting to happen)... Then examples become ridiculous in our current situation but contiinue ro follow this path and suddenly thise examples wouldn't be so crazy.

Personally, I don't think we should allow children to make these decisions. They are too inexperienced in the world, too influenced by others, and in this particular case their sexual identities are too underdeveloped..

But their parents are the ones actually making the decision. And there is a lot of bad parenting going on. Childhood obesity is a direct result if parents not being good parents. They let the kids eat what they want and play video games all day..

It's a long standing philosophical debate when is the decision of a parent overruled? Outside of physical abuse the only example I can think of is a Jehovah's Witness child who will die uless they get a blood transfusion .


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Childhood obesity is a direct result if parents not being good parents.

I mean - it's a left turn of a discussion but what you wrote here is very interesting to me. If there was ONE thing that IF the government could influence and change lifestyles for the better it might be this one topic that could have one of the biggest long term health and economic impacts for a lifetime while also impacting so many other people/systems etc.

I mean they are writing legislation and worrying over a tiny % of kids who may / may not have been born into the wrong body, or worrying about the even smaller % of kids that think they were born in the wrong body and want to take action at a young age (under 16 / 18) ... or really worrying about the even smaller, less than 0.01% of the population that feel they are in the wrong body, do something about it in error .... versus trying to address an issue impacting 42% of Americans who are officially obese - and probably another 25% overweight.

But damn - try to legislate to make people's lives healthier and the Right gets up in arms about government over reach. Remember what was said when a sugar tax was introduced/discussed? Remember the scorn from Faux News and the rest of the Right when Michelle Obama tried to make this a national talking point? BUT .... Women's bodies? 1% of kids who think they are trans. 0.1% of kids that want to take medication for it under 18? .... well then damn right the government should step in and tell people what to do.

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Originally Posted by EveDawg
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I don't care about Trans or Drag Queens/Shows for ADULTS. But they should not be forcing that on children and grooming them. Nor should they be mutilating genitals of children. These kids havent even hit puberty or matured mentally. How the f are they supposed to know how they feel sexually? A LOT of young people experiment sexually when they are young. It does not mean you should cut their breasts or dicks off. You libtards are a bunch of sickos.

Is gender reassignment the same as gender mutilation?

Or is a political perspective?

If the Republican mantra is individual freedom, why is this not a decision between a doctor and a family?

Why would a family or a doctor get to decide a child's gender and remove their genitalia? That is a personal decision for an individual to make when they are hormonally, emotionally,and mentally mature enough to make that decision. as in being an adult. You are disgusting.

Wait! Is this really happening? I have heard the terms, but never read about it. Are doctors and parents really removing children's genitalia? As in......it's already happening?

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Wait! Is this really happening? I have heard the terms, but never read about it. Are doctors and parents really removing children's genitalia? As in......it's already happening?

Google is your friend.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa...ng-treatment-surges-in-u-s-idUKL1N3142UU

SURGERY
The ultimate step in gender-affirming medical treatment is surgery, which is uncommon in patients under age 18. Some children’s hospitals and gender clinics don’t offer surgery to minors, requiring that they be adults before deciding on procedures that are irreversible and carry a heightened risk of complications.

The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis, according to Komodo’s data analysis of insurance claims. This tally does not include procedures that were paid for out of pocket.


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