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I've already given him credit for what you called a "return to elite performance" for "this" year, which I think he showed in his first "good" game he played last year.
I only consider what you'd call his return to previous performance when I think how he will play this year and in the future.
He is already back to form, and being back to form it's ...

I pay attention to what I post. I mean before someone tries to twist it. My point was that if how this deal was constructed was some scheme to put other teams in a bind for future QB contracts that would have been their method from the very beginning. The timeline of events tells the story. Only after watson made it public he was not coming to the Browns did they back up the Brinks truck. The strategy was to get watson at all costs. Maybe reading slower would help you.

Twisting = quoting you in your entirety and responding to you point. Got it.

Context is everything.

So I quoted you correctly and replied to what you said.

Twisting = quoting you in your entirety and responding to you point.
Context = pointing out you said something you didn't think you said and you thinking I should just post what you think I should post.

Next time PM me my replies so I get it right.

It seems as if you are trying to make the point that a last minute desperation offer after watson stated he wasn't coming to Cleveland was some strategy to screw other NFL teams. And the only way you can seem to try and accomplish that is rather than make a case for that is to come at me. Your typical tactic. Somebody needs to PM you something.

Wow!

That's interesting.

Raiders Sign Veteran Quarterback Brian Hoyer to Two-Year Contract

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/04/04/r...zIlPYNiJLXPv5J68ocBY488ClGm58880sM0_W8XI

Excellent Lamar article here with some surprising analytical data.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-cant-lamar-jackson-find-the-contract-he-wants/

Just about the perfect back-up at this point, imo.

I'm glad he'll get one last stint before retirement and, hopefully, some coaching opportunities.

I've always rooted for him and wish him the best.

Always liked Hoyer. Josh Gordon was bad news for BH, in 2013 then 2014.

I look at it as making an offer he couldn't refuse. He has the cash to do it. Watson could be a special QB. Sometimes you want something and you just go get it. If he returns to form, most will never mention his contract. If he is elite, Haslam will look like a smart player.

It's as simple as doing something after the fact is done in desperation, not built on strategy. Watson stated on the record he wasn't coming to Cleveland. If the Browns wanted him they had to quickly fly out there to make an offer he couldn't refuse before he agreed to terms elsewhere. Somehow trying to rewrite history won't change that.

Some people see it as an act of desperation. Others see it as act driven by resolve and determination.

Either way that doesn't explain those that claim it was some strategic move to put other teams in desperate straits signing QB's in the future. But I understand what you're saying. Most things can be spun in opposite directions.

A person can be described as strong willed, determined and laser focused if someone wishes to put a positive spin on a certain character trait. While people wishing to put a negative spin on that same character trait may say that person is stubborn as a jack ass.

It's all about ones perception and perspective I suppose.

Why do you continue to make this argument that does not exist.....boredom? Did anyone say that was the main reason we signed DW? It most likely was a factor playing into the decision and/or it was a pleasant side effect.....but I don't think there's a single person who thinks we signed him for the sole or primary reason to put other teams in "desperate straits signing qb's" as you're saying. I think just about everyone actually agrees with you.....that our FO decided it was worth the last ditch efforts to pay whatever it took to get a qb they feel will make us SB contenders.

And what is your point about it being "the main reason"? Are you trying to suggest it wasn't said many times on this board that this was some strategic move in order to create a terrible situation for other teams? A pleasant side effect makes sense. But a last ditch effort to acquire watson after he publicly stated he wasn't accepting their original offer isn't a strategy about anything other than landing watson.

For some reason it seems you don't want this discussed. For some reason you don't think anyone should make counterpoints to those claims. This is beginning to become a theme around here.

It would seem that with Lamar Jackson the stumblingblock is over the amount of guaranteed $$$ ... And really that is the most important bottomline of any contract. Whether or not he deserves it is debatable for us ... but probably not to Lamar. He wants at the very least 230M guaranteed, which doesn't appear to be a probability as of today. The longer this drags on the more their 2023 season will be setback.

I think your take is accurate.

Free enterprise, the billionaire owners decide what they will pay....DW contract isn't out of whack anymore---IF we get 2020 Texan performance....time will tell.

NFL owners approve bylaw allowing teams to have third quarterback on game day without using active roster spot

The bylaw will reduce the odds of last year's NFC title game repeating itself

NFL owners have approved a bylaw that will allow teams to have a third active quarterback for game days that will not count against their available roster spots, as confirmed by CBS Sports NFL Insider Jonathan Jones.

According to the new bylaws, teams may designate an emergency quarterback who can be activated in the event that the team's first two quarterbacks are either injured or disqualified. The emergency quarterback must exit the game If the medical staff clears either of the injured quarterbacks to return to action. The emergency quarterback would again be eligible to play in the event of another emergency.

Furthermore, a team cannot use an emergency quarterback if three quarterbacks are already on the active game day roster.

The approved bylaw comes less than four months after the 49ers were forced to turn to running back Christian McCaffrey to play quarterback during the NFC Championship game. McCaffrey attempted one pass after both Brock Purdy and Josh Johnson sustained injuries during San Francisco's 31-7 loss in Philadelphia.

The NFL previously had a third-quarterback rule from 1991-2010. Back then, each team was permitted to dress an emergency third quarterback. If the third quarterback came into the game in the first three quarters, their other two quarterbacks were prohibited from re-entering the game.

Jacob Eason, the 49ers' practice squad quarterback last season, likely would have entered last year's NFC title game if San Francisco had the option of using a third quarterback. While it probably wouldn't have changed the outcome, it would have at least given the 49ers an actual quarterback instead of having to turn to McCaffrey.

"I don't know if having a third guy would've [helped], but it would've been a lot better than being in the wildcat for the rest of the game," said 49ers GM John Lynch, via NBC Sports.

While they weren't the beneficiary of it last year, the 49ers can take some solace in inspiring the bylaw that was passed that will greatly reduce the odds of another championship game where a running back is forced to play under center.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...3jFODJWo_T9SI2sn1J03KI-Sb0fJqOY-AIfHSuCk

Good. It needed to be a rule, like forever.

Plus, in a league always searching for QB's, I can't help but think having that guy on the sideline on Sundays, pinned to the HC or OC could only help in their development.

Practice is practice. Being there in real time will be a big benefit, not to mention you do have an emergency QB there and ready to go and don't have to sit there and play wildcat the rest of the game.

I'd like a rule that would mandate all teams use five or more @uarterbacks every game,
now, at first it would take a while to get used to, but, in a little while, many would see how great it would end up.

I'm also becoming more of a fan of,
no field goal attempts allowed in the final minute, only extra points and if there were a def. penalty on the final snap with greater than one minute on the game clock.

Think about how much more wild the endings would be if no FG were allowed in the final minute.

I certainly agree with you. I'm not sure how much different the results of a game would be with your 3rd string QB, but at least he's a QB.