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Wasn't Okudah the #3 overall pick in the draft? Man.........what a crash and burn.
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You need to grow up...must you diss Baker in every post you make.
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off! Go Browns! CHRIST HAS RISEN! GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
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If he's cut I'd let him come in for a chat and if he is willing to take a modest contract I think we could give him a chance to make the team.
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Yes. Okudah was hurt most of his rookie year. Looked lost when he finally got on the field. One of the many reasons Patricia and Quinn were fired. If he is healthy and playing on a better defense, Okudah may finally live up to his potential in Atlanta.
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When the Brown made the trade for Watson, they knew he was going to be suspended but probably not for 11 games. This is the year they were thinking about when they made the trade. We will find out if it was a great move or a flop.
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So you think they paid him 230 million guaranteed for hopefully a chance to get to the SB for four years?
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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No matter how you slice it and dice it - Watson's contract is here to stay. He is not going to take less money. So let's put the illusion trick away we are in cap hell for a long time. We were not prepared to take the hit of a big time QB contract. So we are winging it. All this should we sign this guy or that is not realistic. Sure Berry can shove things around like he's Chris Angel or something. But no matter how you slice it after the illusionists trick is done the cap hell is still there!
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Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off! Go Browns! CHRIST HAS RISEN! GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
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Hurts is a great story, but the reality is that he has only had one very good year. I'm happy for him, but the lesson is that you pay the money when you have the chance to get--or retain--a very good qb.
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Simply OBSCENE! Applies to (most) all of professional sports....
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So, looks like we got a sensible bargain. Don't you think the numbers will continue heading up? Or after the froth of the guarantees and trade capital, might they settle down some so as to be only somewhat and mildly obscene? They are eye poppers for sure. Get while the getting is good. Some agents have to be rejoicing. "Show me your money!"
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HERE WE GO BROWNIES! HERE WE GO!!
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That's awesome. I wish him well.
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That is extremely good news!
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I thought I read that Robinson's cap was like 20 mill and the Steelers are only taking on 5 of it?
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No matter how you slice it and dice it - Watson's contract is here to stay. He is not going to take less money. So let's put the illusion trick away we are in cap hell for a long time. We were not prepared to take the hit of a big time QB contract. So we are winging it. All this should we sign this guy or that is not realistic. Sure Berry can shove things around like he's Chris Angel or something. But no matter how you slice it after the illusionists trick is done the cap hell is still there!
jmho EO...we are just Browns fans with expectations...as long as the Browns are in the playoffs, there's a chance..!
NO EXCUSES..JUST WIN..
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Stupid is as stupid does...
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J/c
I’m just kinda getting caught up here, but I’m growing tired of seeing Winfrey’s name in the headlines for dumb stuff
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Five players suspended for violation of gambling policy, check local listings. Detroit hardest hit, 3 Detrioit Lions Wr among them,,, Detriot may draft an extra receiver or two, no? Most players unknown.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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That is interesting. You'd think we are pretty good there unless there is something to the talk about Newsome wanting a trade. Trade bait for a trade up??
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Always looking for depth, and keeping a fresh list of players to maybe add duo to injuries in camp and during the season.
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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The deadline for teams to pick up the fifth-year option for players selected in the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft is May 2, 2023. The salaries are based on position, playtime, and performance, and are guaranteed at the time the option is exercised.
1. Cincinnati Bengals: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU - $29.504 million | Exercised 2. Washington Redskins: Chase Young, DE, OSU - $17.452 million | Declined 3. Detroit Lions: Jeff Okudah, CB, OSU - Traded to Atlanta 2023 - $11.514 million 4. New York Giants: Andrew Thomas, T, Georgia - $14.175 million 5. Miami Dolphins: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama - $23.171 million | Exercised 6. Los Angeles Chargers: Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon - $29.504 million| Exercised 7. Carolina Panthers: Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn - $11.665 million 8. Arizona Cardinals: Isaiah Simmons, LB, Clemson - $12.722 million 9. Jacksonville Jaguars: CJ Henderson, CB, Florida - Traded to Carolina - $11.514 million 10. Cleveland Browns: Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama - $14.175 million 11. New York Jets: Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville - $13.565 million 12. Las Vegas Raiders: Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama - CUT 13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from San Francisco): Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa - $18.244 million | Exercised 14. San Francisco (from Tampa Bay): Javon Kinlaw, DL, South Carolina - $10.455 million 15. Denver Broncos: Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama - $12.987 million 16. Atlanta Falcons: A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson - $12.344 million | Exercised 17. Dallas Cowboys: CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma - $17.991 million | Exercised 18. Miami Dolphins (from Pittsburgh): Austin Jackson, OT, USC - $14.175 million 19. Las Vegas Raiders (from Chicago): Damon Arnette, CB, OSU - CUT 20. Jacksonville Jaguars (from LAR): K’lavon Chaisson, DL, LSU - $12.141 million 21. Philadelphia Eagles: Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU - Traded to Minnesota - $12.987 million 22. Minnesota (from Buffalo): Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU - $19.743 million | Exercised 23. Los Angeles Chargers (from New England Patriots): Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma - $11.727 million 24. New Orleans Saints: Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan - $14.175 million 25. San Francisco 49ers (from Minnesota Vikings): Brandon Aiyuk, WR, ASU - $14.124 million | Exercised 26. Green Bay Packers (from Miami): Jordan Love, QB, Utah State - $20.272 million 27. Seattle Seahawks: Jordyn Brooks, LB, Texas Tech - $12.722 million 28. Baltimore Ravens: Patrick Queen, LB, LSU - $12.722 million 29. Tennessee Titans: Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia - Traded to Miami then CUT 30. Miami Dolphins (from Green Bay): Noah Igbinoghene, CB, Auburn - $11.514 million 31. Minnesota Vikings (from San Francisco): Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU - Cut 2021/domestic violence, signed with Arizona in 2022 and Died in Car Crash 2022 32. Kansas City Chiefs: Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU - $5.461 million
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There’s some pretty good players there, especially QBs. I always wanted CeeDee Lamb. Thought he was a no-miss WR
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Simmons was a guy many of us were very high during the draft. He just hasn't lived up to expectations. He has been moved around during his career and has played ILB, Safety, and even Corner. He lost playing time and sent mostly to the bench last year in games 2 and 3. He played much better afterwards. The problem w/him is that he does not have a true position. The big question right now is where the Cards are going to play Simmons this year. He still hasn't secured a position. Great athletic talent, but he is one of those guys who doesn't really fit the criteria for any one position.
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Simmons was a guy many of us were very high during the draft. He just hasn't lived up to expectations. He has been moved around during his career and has played ILB, Safety, and even Corner. He lost playing time and sent mostly to the bench last year in games 2 and 3. He played much better afterwards. The problem w/him is that he does not have a true position. The big question right now is where the Cards are going to play Simmons this year. He still hasn't secured a position. Great athletic talent, but he is one of those guys who doesn't really fit the criteria for any one position. If Isiash Simmons went to a team who's DC has a resume Of producing top 14 defenses he could really shine. These DCs get this unicorns yet have no idea how to get The best out of them . If Simmons played in KC, Philly, Pittsburgh or Cincy he Would be a playmaker for them. Simmons is probably Best suited to play OLB in a 4-3 or a safety in 4-2-5
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Best suited to play OLB in a 4-3 or a safety in 4-2-5 Agreed - and I agree that a top DC would find a way to use Simmons freakish athletic ability despite him not having a true position in most traditional defences. In a similar vein I am hoping that Schwartz finds a way to make JOK shine because he has some of same physical tools and has pretty good instincts but was a non impact factor for the Browns last year.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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I disagree. How many DCs has he played for? And his new HC who was the DC for a team that was in the SB last year still doesn't know where to play him. He is a great talent. He doesn't have a position. It's a struggle to find ways to utilize his strengths while masking his weaknesses at certain positions.
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