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There are lots of issues with the partisan MSM in this country. They do exhibit an enormous amount of bias and most do not simply report facts. That's true.

It's also true that some are worse than others - and that's something you want to deflect from. Only Faux News has used a defense that was essentially"of course we lied - no-one expects the show host to tell the truth" in a court of law. Only Faux News has paid out $787 million not to air their dirty laundry further in court. Only Faux News has an even bigger claim against them that will need to be settled or go to court.

As for your misplaced and inaccurate and wholly wrong opinion that the election was stolen - that's a you problem and it's a you problem because you have bought into the lies your being fed by the very same media you just acknowledged are lying to you.

No, we do have televised news, but no one really watches the evening nightly news any longer.

Most of the news is what I call infotainment. CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, OANN and Newsmax have a bunch of time available, so they filled the time with opinion anchors and rehash the daily top 5 items over and over, in the hopes to draw viewers to their site.

Print media has morphed more into on-line websites, with those on the fringes looking to create a stir.

When I want news, I still tend to go to Reuters and AP to get the non-partisan perspective. Online, I listen to Smerconish Sirrus-XM who will take a deeper dive than most, and ties to present a balanced perspective.

And MSNBC paid how much to Nick Sandmann?

You were right, they all lie. It really does not matter who "lies more". They lie, they spin, they obfuscate to sell a narrative. People let it go when they agree and yell about lies when they don't.

I wish we could get honest facts in this country but it's obvious very few people want those, they want to shake their fists at clouds and yell about "those people".

If you want to say it doesn't matter who lies the most - and if you want to compare the Nick Sandmann reporting - which was no doubt wrong - to the deliberate falsification of election lies and claims of fraud ... well I disagree. I also think an awful lot of people want real news and facts without bias - and there are still sources for good actual "news".

The Nick Sanmann reporting wasn't merely wrong. It was a legitimate attempt to make the incident fit the news they wanted to sell.

Fox does it and they are a threat to our very existence.
MSNBC does it and, well, it's ok, they were just a little wrongish but their hearts were in the right place.

Not what I said - are you quoting someone else?

It's a general observation about how these things work.

But what about? And then we have. And then there was. Blah blah.


MSNBC never lied to the public to overturn a US presidential election.

Fox got off easy here. And they continue to lie to their viewers 24-7.

Keep drinking the kool-aid. It'll be too painful for you to stop now.

No, you brought up Sandmann, it's the right wing talking point of the day that is all they got.. It is silly, no comparison, apples and oranges, and just lame.

787.5 million for lying... Fox News is the media equivalent of pro-wrestling. Viewers know they lie, but the truth is something that they do not want to be bothered with.

Why is it those who act like the king's of pointing out whataboutisms are some of the biggest users of something they call whataboutisms?

Hey Pot! Meet kettle!!!

It's like using the excuse that someone else did something you think is wrong so it makes it okay for you to do it. I would expect no less from you.

Lol .. and that’s the crux. If you’re not cheating you’re going to loose.

MyPillow CEO Forced to Fork Over $5M to Trump Voter Who Debunked His Election Claims

MyPillow founder and staunch Donald Trump ally Mike Lindell issued a challenge in 2021: anyone who could debunk his data that, he claimed, contained proof that the Chinese interfered with the 2020 presidential election would win $5 million. Lindell called the challenge “Prove Mike Wrong.” Well, someone did—and now Lindell’s firm is being ordered to shell out the cash. A private arbitration panel ruled on Wednesday that Robert Zeidman, a 63-year-old computer forensics expert from Nevada, disproved Lindell’s claims back in 2021 and is entitled to the $5 million prize. Zeidman voted for Trump twice, but the self-proclaimed “reasonable” and “moderate conservative” said he was still skeptical of Lindell’s claims of Chinese interference. When Zeidman examined Lindell’s data, not only did it not contain any proof of foreign interference, it didn’t contain any information related to the November 2020 election at all. Lindell Management initially declined to pay Zeidman his prize, but Wednesday’s arbitration ruling will force its hand. Lindell insists it isn’t over, though. “They made a terribly wrong decision! This will be going to court!” he wrote in a text message to The Washington Post.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mypil...1E3ESUW81ly08wqNWq0CbdIm6EwwehSxLnqSWI80

You'd think Lindell would get tired of all the losing? Guess not