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Berry is becoming the John Gruden for Wide Recievers.
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Achane a RB a close 2nd or neck and neck with Tank Bigsby of Auburn
Achane gone.
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Thanks Tru, I hadn't heard about that
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The Raven just got the 3rd best edge rusher,
3rd to eigth,
at pick 83, and, this is why you finish in 3rd place in the division ...
Trade up for Moro Ojomo,...
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Tank Bigsby reminds me a bit of... Nick Chubb,
he went to the Jaguars,
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Ravens and Steelers somehow always grab the players we desire....Ravens nabbed Simpson
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The Raven just got the 3rd best edge rusher,
3rd to eigth,
at pick 83, and, this is why you finish in 3rd place in the division ...
Trade up for Moro Ojomo,... According to the ESPN tracker, pick 83 was a CB from Iowa, taken by Denver. Are you thinking of someone else? At pick 86 they took an ILB from Clemson, at least he is listed as an ILB, Trenton Simpson. Fast , but only 235 ibs.
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Yeah Trenton simpson the Tiger from Clemson the player I said, one of the players I said the Browns should trade up for, all the way to 34 or thirty five ish overall.
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We gotta go defense with our next pick...
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DLine is kinda slim pickings...Andre Carter may be an ideal role to split time at wide 9 DE. But he may be there at the top of round 4 as well. Jordan Battle may come in consideration, or even Jammie Robinson in round 4. I do like Coburn at DT, but I expect him to go later. LB was weak this year, and it really recently got picked over.
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All 3 division opponents have had really really good drafts so far.
so did Philadelphia
so did the jaguars,,, Houston.
the Browns, ehh, the Titans ehh, the Buccaneers, ehh not @uite, maybe so much.
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Most of the LBs with high grades are all smaller guys which we already have in JOK, Fields, and Phillips. I hope we go S next or possibly DE McGuire from Missouri.
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Damn...Bengals nabbed Jordan Battle...Going to have a nice young safety tandem with Daxton Hill.
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Wow lots of hate over that pick
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IMO we are a better team after these 2 picks. We got a WR that would have been picked in the top 50 if he didn't get hurt and a DT that will be very hard to move. He'll be solid against the run. Good job so far AB.!!!!
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Few guys I'm hoping we may snag tomorrow:
HB Keaton Mitchell - get it done AB!
DE Thomas Incoom
DT Nesta Jade Silvera
DT Dom Peterson
TE Ben Sims
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Would love to add Jammie Robinson or Antonio Johnson at S...Quindell Johnson if we go late.
Sowell and Ivan Pace are interesting LB prospects if either are there at the top of round 5...
Would love RB Izzy at of Pitt...if we wait to round 5, Roshon Johnson or Chase Brown intrigue me. I do like Mitchell more than Deuce Vaughn.
There's still some OT talent if we take that route (with Conlin and Wills injury history, may be wise) Jones, Duncan, Freeland are available...if we go later, I wouldn't mind Ryan Hayes, he's not as good as Runyan (whom I wanted a couple years ago late, and is now a stud for the Packers)
DE..surprised the Northwestern kid is around (I never get his spelling correct) KJ Henry, Horton, Mcguire would interest me... Herbig if we go go late in the draft.
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One thing you can bank on: Baltimore having a good draft. Hated that they got Simpson
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The Browns draft began with pick number 74 in the third round.
IMO we don't a thing about who we selected. What we think we know today and what we will know a year or three from now will most likely be way different.
At pick number 74 we are not looking at guys who are profiled as first round picks. They are guys who on film might show promise but at the same time have weaknesses.
IMO when you start this late in the draft you look for traits that should fit your scheme regardless of position.
Cedrick Tillman. I am not going to profess I know how good he will be. IMO in the NFL receivers have to be able to make contested catches. The NFL is loaded with corners that were drafted high and can cover. You are not always going to create space. Often when the ball is thrown your way. You have to fight your guy for that ball. Size helps. I like big receivers who can post up guys and high point the ball. Most corners and safeties are around six foot. Being 6' 3" 216 with strong hands helps.
If you didn't trade up with a target player in mind BPA is important. I don't know if he was the BPA. Tillman appears to be a versatile receiver.
Siaki Ika. Last season the heart of the defensive issues faced the Browns faced was gap integrity. Guys who could control designated space. The interior DL got moved away from the play.
Jim Schwartz I am sure in watching the 2022 tape knew changes had to be made. The first guy signed in FA was Tomlinson. This pick is no surprise.
I repeat that I have only seen a small amount of tape on Ika. AB and staff were looking at how this guy fits. What traits does he have that we feel will fit the role we want him to play.
This is a big man. Traits you look for are power, leverage, quickness, and strong hands that can control his blocker.
Ika draft profile from Lance Zierlein:
Slams into first contact with excellent hip explosion and leverage.
Initial punch drives through opponent’s pads.
Good recognition against down blocks.
Will require help to dig him out of gaps.
Power and snap quickness to penetrate and ruin play design.
Adequate initial slide quickness to create viable rush angles.
Shoves and clubs blocker’s wrists and hands to eliminate the punch.
Above-average athleticism for a player his size.
These are traits I believe the staff wanted for the role they envision.
I have no clue if these picks will work out. The staff did their work. The Board played out. These were the choices. I have no grade.
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Agreed and a good post. I think both our picks are fine. Whether they will pan out or not remains to be seen as with all picks. What I don't understand here is all the negativity over them. Give these guys a chance. Our picks are bad and our division rivals' picks are good. We can assess all these picks in a year or 2. Now is just conjecture. I'm willing to give our FO the benefit of the doubt at this point. Also, I'm sure Ika will learn a few things from Dalvin Thomlinson who knows something about DL play.
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Honestly I don't think there is anything to be positive or negative about.
Looking at the history of just the first round and we find out that many of the first 32 picks fail.
We began with pick 74.
The staff did their best to prepare for this draft. I think starting in the third round all you can do is hope a few guys pan out.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Zavala is someone I was really impressed with, I thought he could be someone that could make Wyatt Teller tradeable, given his contract and injury in another year.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I think this is a GREAT fit for him.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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