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How much of an excuse is unprecedented height and weight for not getting low in a stance, in a 3 point stance?
Is it medically harmful for him to take proper posture pre snap and at the first instance after the snap?
He looked like he was playing high, playing high would negate the advantage his mass offers.
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Not an excuse. But possibly a perspective....guys like him at that size have never HAD to get that low to get the job done. Also, in Dawands case. He started football late due to being focused on basketball. So reps getting low or people yelling at him to get low may not have been as prevalent...LOL... Especially if he was manhandling the guy in front of him...

But you have a good point. And I actually agree with you wholeheartedly. That is what they need to have drilled into them. To be fair it is harder as a larger guy to get down there. That is why when we do see really big guys get low it is highlighted rather than treated as well that is what he is supposed to do... Let's hope coaching is the biggest reason and we can correct it...Let's hope that when he gets low that it is an epiphany and clicks...

He started at OSU as a LT, then moved to RG, then last season RT. Seems to be pretty versatile and can fill in anywhere on the line except C. Really like the pick.

Does this have any influence on picking up Wills 5th year option?

No, I don't believe he can play LT in the pros. There is a reason why we moved our RG to LT this year and Jones ended up at RT.

I agree. Obviously I could be wrong, but he looks to be a RT all the way. I'd even say he might be a better DT than LT.

j/c:

Tackles are tackles.

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Some might say that, but I don't agree with that. Joe Thomas by any measure was a top 10 all-time as a LT. Had some idiot decided to play him as a RT, he would have been an "average Joe"...no pun intended.

Two different skills sets and two different mentalities required.

The fact that they are even considering not picking up a 3 year starting LT contract tells you a lot

JC...

Jones has the ceiling to be Orlando 'Zues" Brown, that comparable size and girth...But his floor is probably that of Nat Dorsey. I think Jones should probably be a max of 330-340 lbs on that frame, they def. need him to get on par with proper nutrition and conditioning.

Unless they are still trying to hammer out a long-term deal. Locking in the 5th year options pretty high amount would give Jed more leverage in negotiations.

Kaleb McGary just re-signed with ATL for 3 years at 11.5M AAV. Jed's option is over 14M. McGary's PFF is grade is well over 80. Jed's was low 60s.

I'd guess they're trying to save some money/pay Jed what they think his actual value is. Will probably pick up the option if they can't agree on something before the deadline. That's coming up 5/1 so we should find out soon. Maybe they won't pick it up in the hope that it motivates him.

Intelligent take.

Could James Hudson and Dawand Jones replace Wills and Conklin? I know Hudson got off to a bad start, but does he still have starter potential? The Browns should pay Bill Callahan whatever he wants.

I've been reading a lot about Dewand Jones mostly not good from people analyzing our draft. They're entitled to their opinion. IMO if he can't cut it at tackle he can always be moved to guard. It's not like he was a high pick he was a 4th rounder. These talking heads should cut us some slack. I think we had a better than decent draft considering what AB had to work with.

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Jones is a better prospect coming into the League (6.32 compared to 6.20 grade) and a better athlete overall than Brown ... yet no one is considering him to possibly make the move to LT ... even though he has played there before (albeit a small sample size of 80 snaps) and Orlando Brown Jr. has been successful while playing LT.

And I agree that Jones needs to play around 340 lb to 350 maximum.

Parrish Johnson is a more nature fit at LT ... but if OSU wouldn't of had his services Jones could have been their LT the past two seasons.

Good info tab. I think we know conklin isn’t long for the NFL