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Ok...in order to play here...you have to assume that we will trade DA. Please don't hijack the thread. What teams would make sense for DA and what might they give us in return?

Atlanta - hmmm...they've got an extra second...yes?

Baltimore -

San Fran - Someone on here has already suggested that they are hot for DA

Miami - Doubt it...but maybe. They screwed up on the Quinn thing...maybe DA fixes that...doubt it.

Chicago - Briggs and a #2?

Minnesota - Depends on if they think Jackson is a player or a great Johnny Cash song. How about DA for AP? Just kidding...ease up.

St Louis - I think Bulger is done...and we no longer need Pace.

Tampa - They can never seem to get enough QBs...doubtful. Sims and their 2nd?

Kansas City - I don't think either guy there is the answer. How about DA for Huard and a 2nd?

J-E-T-S - naw...Clemens looks ok...at least in the fourth Q when we stopped doing what was working. Ooops...that's for another thread.

Lions - Could be interesting. Kitna? Naw.

Panthers - If Delhomme is done...could be good.

I don't think it makes sense for a reaaaaally bad team to go after DA. Teams like Atlanta and Miami have too many holes to fill to be trading picks for anyone not named Marino (young), Staubach (young), etc. & the J-E-T-S have Clemens and Miami has Beck.

I don't think we'd let him go to Baltimore and I doubt San Fran is ready to give up on Smith yet...even though him and Nolan are

Tampa and Detroit are in position to draft a guy and groom him.

St Louis and Carolina may try and get another year out of their beat up QBs...good QBs...but beat up and maybe beyond repair...maybe not.

That leaves Chicago, KC, and Minny.

I think DA makes sense for all 3 with the possible exception of Minny with Jackson.

Chicago is a playoff team but needs a good QB...KC has a revolving door of backups at QB.

I think those last two teams make the most sense with Chicago at the top of the heap. They are in the NFC - good for us - and are a QB away from being a contender again...at least they should probably think so.

What do you think?

Minnesota gives us their #1 and Chester Taylor for DA. Book it.

Its a shame we could have had Taylor anyway, buuttttttttt noooooooooo. Baltimore had to match our offer.

Chester Taylor is a cancer. No thank you.

I think Chicago or Carolina makes the most sense. They need to scuttle their entire QB situations.

I think Chicago makes the most sense. Grossman is a FA this year and he can't stay healthy. Griese is a career backup and the only thing Orton is good at is holding a clipboard. The Bears are set up to win right now and the only thing stopping them is the play of the QB. They could use another receiver too.

I think Chicago or Carolina, I think they are the most likely places.

Ok I'll play.

I'm thinking Savage wants to use DA to leverage back into the first round and won't take much less. We all know DA isn't Marino but for a first year starter his numbers are ridiculous... (and much better than Marino's first year btw.) There's lots of quants who'll factor stat data significantly. Savage said something (though I don't remember exactly) about high tendering Anderson. I seriously doubt someone coughs up a 1st AND 3rd but hey, look at the facts....
1st year starter
Height: 6-6 Weight: 230 Age: 24 (Gulp)
(Projected) TD's: 32 Ints:17 Yds:4000 (Gasp)

Now, look around at available QB's.
Cricket..... cricket.............. ...........cricket...

Might just be the perfect year to be trotting out the trade of a pretty decent RFA QB with one years worth of all-pro stats.

A team like Minny is going to have a lower half 1st round pick. When they weigh their options they have to be thinking "do we draft a maybe late in the first or trade for a proven decent QB?" I think you're right, it's Minny #1.

Chicago and KC are probably both going to end 5-11 or 6-10. That 1st round pick is going to be top 10 and probably too valuable to trade for Anderson. KC needs the big armed pocket passer though they still seem torn on Huard. The Bears neeeeeed any decent QB like a fish needs water. They're starving. Though I don't think Anderson would probably thrive in Chicago, he'd be better than what they got. Unlike KC, they don't seem to realize they have lots of other problems.

Atlanta's a maybe but we have no way knowing what direction they're going in. They might get totally blown up which would probably mean they'd sit the Anderson sweepstakes out. That's going to be a top 5 pick, making it less likely IMO. But who knows.

San Fran is intriguing. That Nolan can do nothing with Smith tells me Anderson probably wouldn't thrive out there. I can't say why but I just have no faith in Nolan. Doesn't mean they wouldn't go after him though. They need the picks though and it'll be top 5.

Panthers are also intriguing but like you said, ONLY if Delhomme is done.

Miami is a possibility if Cameron doesn't come back. They were burned on the QB carousel last year and would likely be more cautious if he's the captain. They need to stock up on picks, not get rid of them. That said, if Beck doesn't show something, anything, they might be a suiter.

We could trade with the Ravens if they gave us 1st, 3rd and something else. But they won't.

For me its...
Favorable:
Vikings, Bears

Highly conditional favorable:
Chiefs, Panthers, Fins

Not so likely:
Falcons, Rams, Lions, Ravens,

Nope:
Jets, Bucs, Eagles


That's a big market though. Got to love a market with at least 5 hungry potential suiters. Might just get that 1st and 3rd after all. Might just have Anderson next year. Neither outcome would upset me.

This is all based on how we do in FA..... If we get a couple good defenders that savage and company feel will take us that much closer to the next level... I saw screw the trade, look at young, how long did he sit behind Montana, let Quinn learn as much as possible. Otherwise... I like the bears and the chiefs as our best choices. Bears at #1. We can only take picks though. The 2 guys they got, Berrian and Briggs, that I wouldn't mind seeing here, are going to be FA's at the end of the year. Call me crazy, but even though it's money, don't fix what isn't broken, keep him, what if Quinn turns out to be a Leaf? Then we trade away everything the next year.

actually we can cross SF right off that list, they dont have a 1st rounder.


My thoughts have been saying KC, ATL, Chicago, or Minnesota too. STL could be a wild card because Linehan loves the deep ball coming from Minnesota.

I think Chicago will go after McNabb - for me it is the Vikings or Atlanta that would give us the best deal for DA.

Minnesota and Carolina are probably the two teams most interested in DA. If I'm Phil Savage though I would not budge for anything less than a 1st and a 3rd round picks for DA though. He's certainly much more safer than drafting a QB in the 1st or 2nd round since he's still only 24 years old and already has a full season of starts under his belt with staggering numbers for 1st year start. Any team desperate for a QB would be stupid to not be willing to give a 1st and a 3rd for him. I'd be just as happy though if we kept DA though, don't fix what aint broke theory kinda applies to this.

We are finally a winning team and DA is a big part of that, he can only get better with more experience maybe shop BQ around a little bit if DA's agent is willing to work out a long term deal. Why trade away a good QB with experience for a unproven QB that hasn't take 1 snap in regular season. BQ is still better than any of the QB's available in the draft this year and he's already had his year to be acclimated to the speed of the NFL so he should be ready to play as a starter for any team next season, maybe seek a 1st and a 5th round for BQ. Either way Phil Savage is happier than a "Puppy with 2 peters", right now. It's a win, win situation for both players and our Team with whatever decision is made. For me though if I were in Phil's shoes I'd probably shop BQ before DA, since DA is more proven and is just 1 year older than BQ.

Ooh one more thing Credit needs to be given to Romeo and Phil for not throwing BQ into the fire after the trade of Charlie Frye, these 2 guys have made all the right decisions since coming here and I'm so happy that we finally have that here.

we keep him

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This is my guess as well. It's hard to fathom so many people wanting to get rid of a QB who's thrown the most TDs this team has seen in over 20 years. Now I'm not saying he's the QB of the future or not, but look at how the best QBs in the league have improved from year one as a starter to year two or three. If we keep him, and he does not improve, we have as good a backup as you'll find. Not to mention, he'll be potential trade bait for several seasons, a la Matt Schaub, Billy Volek, Drew Brees, etc.

If we trade Anderson and Quinn gets hurt or busts, then what? If I'm Savage unless I'm totally blown away by an offer of either a #1 or a legit top notch player (DL, RB, LB) DA is a Brown next year.

I think the originator of this thread just wanted opinions on where he'd go IF he goes elsewhere.

Not gonna be SF (NE has their 1st-rounder for god sake), I think Minny will cast their lot with Jackson, he'd been better lately. We won't let DA go to Baltimore.
I can see the Bears, or maybe Carolina.

Why not Baltimore, without a decent Oline, he will suffer greatly as any QB does. And I don't see Baltimore's Oline getting any better in the next few years.

I think we'll hang on to him but the best case scenario is getting Minnesota and Chicago both in the mix. Why? Because they play in the same division! Nothing like a bidding war between division rivals to drive the price up a bit.

Just stirring the pot though, as I see DA in brown and orange next season.

Why can't you go with the spirit of the thread? There are plenty of I love Anderson threads to further your opinion in.

I'll play.

I have been thinking Minnesota for a while now.

The other team I think might be Chicago but DA might not be a big enough splash for the Bears. They may be thinking more about Mcnabb.

The problem a lot of the teams that would be interested in him have is that they don't' have the o-line or the WR that we have.
How will DA do on a team when he is the main focal point of the offense.

For that reason Carolina looks like a good fit. They have a running game and a big play WR. They also have a O-line that hasn't been ignored for years like some others. The question is are they ready to give up on Delhomme and do they not think Carr is the future.

I could completely see him going to Detroit.

I can see Mike Martz drooling over his arm and pocket presence and with their receivers and Martz's vertical offense, Anderson would actually be a pretty darn good fit. If nothing else, it is where I would see Anderson having the most future success.


Baltimore - Not happening unless they poison-pill us... I think it'd have to be one helluva an offer for Derek to sign an offer that would screw us like that though... this is a different FO than the Butch years, I think we treat the guys pretty well now.


Atlanta - I think this is the second best place for him to end up. He's the huge armed pocket passer they kept trying to turn Vick into. Yeah, he's barely more mobile than Bernie, but he's shown he can move a bit when he needs to. They are going to be tearing down and rebuilding.... I could see them pulling the trigger -and- we've traded with them in the past.

Minnie - I think they're gonna decide that they like Tarvaris and stick with him for at least another year.

Miami, Chicago, St.Louis, Kansas City.... KC & St.L are the best matches for him in this group I think, but he could really turn around that offense in Chicago with his quick release.... but they don't have much in the way of receivers to help him out.... they gotta get younger than Mushin Mohammed. Miami will probably decide to look for a punter instead of a QB.

Actually yeah, detroit might work for DA, too.

Living in Charlotte, I can tell you that unless there is something to Delhomme's injury that could really effect his future in the NFL, they are probably sticking with him. Now, there is ALOT of talk around that Fox and company will not make it to next yr., so if a new regime is brought in.......that could change. But right now I would say that if they brought in Anderson to start over Delhomme, this town would revolt.

As for B-More, I heard talk on the radio that they could also be in the hunt for McNabb if he leaves Philly.

I just don't see DA in Charlotte/Carolina or Baltimore.

Where?

Actually to anywhere that DA chooses.

Once we high tender him - DA will choose whose contract to sign not us. If he does sign (teams make a valid contract for him) we will not match. He is gone to that team for their 1st n 3rd round picks.

Who...does it matter? Even if its the Ravens. With their OL can DA succeed? Will we cripple them further by getting their 1st n 3rd round picks. Oz can do more with those picks than Billick with DA. After all their D is aging and that is their only game! Heap is good DA wouldn't lose too much at TE...but BE n JJ would be missed...our OL would be missed and in his prime Pass protection just wasn't Ogden best thing. He might retire or he should retire he plays LT as well as McG plays OLB.

The timing is good for us. But one other thing. DA has to pick up his game. He should have blown away the Jets and Zona and did not. We might lose the windfall. Against the Bills, Bengals n 49ers he can and should produce. If he falters flags are going to go up on DA and I don't think we would be able to get the full compensation.

Then you are looking at Schaub type deals. Savage said he wouldn't but that could be just Poker???

JMHO

AFC
Baltimore Doubt they would pay much of a price for a QB they released
KC Strong possibility #4
Jets They will stick with the young kid another year
Miami I could see them taking mcfadden and trying to package a 2009 first for Anderson

NFC
Rams Extended Bulger this year
49ers I think they will go after a free agent
Falcons I expect them to draft a QB. Woodson is a known commodity to Ga fans
Bears My #1 most likely team
Panthers # 2 most likely team Delhomme is done for down there they werent happy with him before the injury
Lions Could be interesting #3
Cardinals It would have been more favorable if DA hadnt stunk it up against them.

Vikings i left off cause Jackson has played well enough to keep their interest for another year.

not happy with Delhomme?
In 3 games he was 2-1 as a starter with 8 TD's and 1 INT and a 111.8 QB rating

In 9 games all three of his replacements have combined for 8 TD's and 14 INT's

Philly would rather ship DM out to the AFC..a team they may not even face for several seasons..
Chicago would be the first...

Just curious ... why the Fish .. that one makes no sense to me .. they have Beck ... please explain why u think they'd be interested ..

and why in the world would the Cards have any interest at all .. they have Lienart .. another one that just makes zero sense to me ..

my guess for teams that would be interested:

Bears ...
Falcons ...
Panthers ...
Eagles .. Reid is out and McScabb goes to Da Bears ...
Rats ..

my guess is no one wants to give up anywhere near what we ask for him and he ends up back here next year ...

I love the chicago idea.

All I heard in the offseason was they're going to trade Briggs, he's not happy.
and sexy rexy isn't the answer.

So maybe their 1st or 2nd and 3rd and briggs for d.a. and possible one late day pick from us. We'd get another top pick and a stud lb. I'd like that.

I will be STUNNED if we get a first for him .... unless Matt the Moron Millen from Detroit gets involved .. *LOL* ..

Why stunned? As a restricted free agent, he'll be a hot commodity among teams that are in need of a QB.

Whether Atlanta drafts a QB or goes after DA is entirely dependent upon their new coach and what he feels the team needs to succeed in his system. Atlanta's a mess of a team right now and none of the college QBs are lights out. They may want to go another direction on a sure thing with their first pick, and getting a solid QB with playing time, experience, and success might be a good plan for them.

I don't think the Rams troubles boils down to the QB position. So I can't see them investing in Derek.

Miami just drafted Beck. Detroit just drafted Stanton from MSU. Philadelphia jsut drafted Kolb. I doubt any of these 3 teams are going to be looking to Derek to come in and take over the reins when they've got a rookie in the wings who they want to eventually take over. Young guns like DA don't come into teams that a project QB is on. Older guns like Kurt Warner do.

Minnesota was looking like the favorite, but Tarvaris Jackson is showing some stuff all of a sudden. I think the Vikes wait to see how he plays out, especially if they creep into a Wild Card spot.

San Francisco is a real possibility, because of the rift between Nolan and Alex Smith and how his injury has been handled. It may be likely that Nolan isn't around next year, but even if he goes, Alex Smith may want out. Or the new coach may want a different QB.

Chicago would be a good fit for Anderson too. Inconsistency and injury is leading Chicago to start Kyle Orton this week.... and that isn't going to end well. I wouldn't be surprised if they make a strong play for him.

All I know is there are many more teams out there wanting to upgrade their QB pos than there are QB's to fill them.

Beck isnt much and he was a serious reach to even be drafted day 1. BTW isnt he actually a couple years older than DA lol.

Arizona well the players nor the coaches can even stand the Leinart. The guy doesnt want to work out. Doesnt want to watch film and he thinks the world should revolve around his big head. Plus he is now with a coach that didnt draft him and replaced him with Kurt Warner.

Someone mentioned Delhomme. he had a great 2 weeks this year, only problem last i checked they do play 16 games. They brought carr in because they had no confidence in Jake. Now they have no confidence in two quarterbacks lol

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lol you should have posted a pic of Pinky and the Brain. Vince Young and Matt Leinart. Remember Young's wonderlic score lol.

I didn't know that about Matty ,, even so theres no way they dump him and give up even a 2nd rnd pick for DA at this point .. NOT A SHOT IN HELL ...

Cameron drafted beck did he not?? so now after 1 year hes going to give up on him and give us a #1 or #2 pick for DA .... NO WAY ...

For Nas and the rest ..

thats right .. STUNNED .... UNfortunatly for us there may not be any GM's as shortsighted as most of the dolts on the board that way OVERVALUE DA's worth .... they will UNfortunatly look beyond the # of TD pases and see an inncaurrate, inconsistent poor decision making QB playing behind possibly the best pass blocking OL in football with GREAT WEAPONS that ate making outstanding catches with a GREAT GAME PLAN against a WEAK SCHEDULE and therefore I will be STUNNED if we get a 1st rnd pick for DA ..

and Nas or whoever it was that brought up Schuab .. they got what they got for him cause Kubiak saw an ACCURATTE QB with a little bit of mobility ... I said it for years .. Atlanta would have been a much better football team with Schuab than Vick ..

and i would take Schuab in a nano second over DA .. and so would every GM in the league with half a brain ..