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Interesting, and something we may not hear on the news, what with Trump being indicted today.

I would invite you to watch a total of about 13 minutes of video.

I will watch. I'm on my phone at the mo. I'll repeat, if any Biden or any Democrat ever transgress I want them prosecuted in line with the law.

That said I see two faces of two of the most unscrupulous Republicans who would weaponize and politicize any situation for their own gain. You could say the same about some Dems. That's not true of all GOP or Democrats. But those two are the worst of the worst.

I haven’t watched the videos yet as well. I did see a clip of Senator Grassley where he states there are supposedly taped phone calls from the president and Hunter talking to the person who supposedly bribed them. Apparently there are a couple more letters from the FBI informant where this has been spelled out.

I didn’t post any of this because I have no idea if it’s true. It could be nothing.

Watched Cruz beat up FBI guy--as an INDEPENDENT voter- as who,what,where,when, why, how always-Rep/Red senators object was to highlight "alleged corruption" by the sitting Demo President- Biden...while their leader- Trump- reports for his arrest....trying to move the spotlight. All "presumed innocent until proven guilty"- can Reps get enough steam up to impeach.....time will tell. Have they found the whistle blower yet? As a thinking American, please answer all the questions and follow evidence.

Just as a side bar- isn't it interesting Reality Winter, former intel military specialist- who leaked actual Russian interference in 2016 election to press- served PRISON time for releasing the truth- Trump, allegedly (wink and smile) exposed our nuclear plans to unauthorized people----wonder if he'll do time for a much more serious breach. Time will tell.

Well, watch. The FBI guy admitted they have the report/form after they denied having it at first. Then went into a defense, as to why they haven't released it, along the lines of "it could prove deadly for the informant". Hmmm........As the questioner stated "release it, and redact the informers name"......and "Have you used this informant before?"... Both times the FBI guy said "I"m not getting into that?" Also, "The FBI said they had no document, but Grassley said he'd read it, and now all of a sudden the FBI does have it, but can't make it public?"

Yeah, Trump's got issues. It gets all the media. The Biden's have issues as well. It gets no play. Goes back to the drug addict son of Biden, getting a job with Burisma - in Ukraine, and raking in millions.

Senators don't believe there is an investigation- is there/isn't there? We/they don't know? Does FBI have to "legally" talk about an investigation- I ain't lawyer? Don't know/ I'd expect NOT. Biden wrong doing get no play? Nothing on Fox/ are the videos just watched nothing? Let's list the number of drug using sons/daughters for ALL politicians....or general public....damn, it would be a hell of a list. Lastly, no son/or daughter has EVER gotten a job due to their parents influence----right.

So, just ignore it, right?

The first thing you have to admit, Cruz is a blow hard. He's also shilling for Trump trying to take the head off him. This reminds me of trying to tell people in 2016 that Clinton was running a brothel out of a pizza shop in DC.

I've said it before, if you got the proof, bring it forward. Something the Republicans can't seem to do.

Another one is out there. Biden was accused of sexual harrasment by 20 or so women, yet, only one seems to come up. They brought that out in 2020 and it didn't stick then either.

So you ask if it's true, I doubt it. But I"m open to being convinced. Go for it.

Truth be told, the FBI and the DOJ overall, don't discuss cases that are part of an ongoing investigation. So, it may be that they are investigating. Cruz knows that, but he and Grassly don't care. They want the political points.

How could I convince anyone? I only have the facts as told by the FBI guy that testified. Just ignore it? That's what you have? I mean, obviously you haven't taken the 13 minutes or so to watch the vids, have you?

Even Trump nicknamed the junior senator from Texas "Lying Ted". If that is not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

That the problem... Sometimes there is something there, a lot of times, it is just spewing garbage. Look at the Weapondization committee with Jim Jordan, its a joke.

When I see something from a respectable source, I will figure it out.

Until then, its just political gamesmanship and posturing.

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi...

A noun, verb and 911...

I will pay attention when it shows up on the front page of the New York Times, Washington Post, AP or Reuters.

So, you also have not watched the videos. Thanks for admitting it.

I watched the videos. Not sure if there is an ongoing investigation. The Democrats on the house judiciary committee say there is not. If that’s the case why can’t the FBI say so?

I find it very telling that some on here are poo pooing this because of who is bringing it up but bought everything said about Trump and Russia hook, line, and sinker. I’m waiting for those people to admit they were lied to by some in the Democratic Party. I know they will just come back and say Trump is guilty of something else. The fact is they believed lying politicians like Adam Schiff that agree with their personal biases

I have taken a wait and see attitude about all of this. Trump and Biden. I voted for Biden because I can’t stand Trump but I’m betting that won’t stop some of them for attacking me as a Trump sycophant.

At this point it doesn’t deserve play OVER the prosecution of the worst POTUS ever.

It is closing in on the syndicate. We are talking RICO charges.

I am sure they will cover it....look at all the other crap they have covered up. It isn't hard when the main investigating agency and prosecuting agency are complicit in the cover-up.

What President Nixon did was mickey mouse compared this this. We are seeing the overthrow of our country before our eyes...at least the eyes that aren't closed.

I can go with that. Hey, Trump got elected because of the other choice. Biden got elected because of the other choice. Trump has been investigated since before he got elected - what's that, 7 years now?



I got/get called a Trumpian (and worse) because I voted for him over Hillary.

But the reality is, Trump is now paying/possibly paying some consequences.

Another reality is, Biden has taken bribes, his son got a job paying millions (for access to his dad), spread that money out to family. He also made a few million selling "art"l. All while an addict. And yes, the media, in their hatred of Trump (as some on here do) ignore it.

I won't be voting for Trump in, what, a year and a half? But I'll still be labeled by some idiots on here as a Trumpian.

I want the process to be the same, regardless of party. So far, the cover up for Biden .................well, do the math.

Well Arch, i don't like Trump myself, but if he is the nominee, you can bet I will vote for him. I hope you do as well. All the Dems throw out there are communist,socialist flunkies like they have been voting for.

Jimmy Carter was the last honorable democratic candidate presented. I might say Obama was a decent person, it was just his socialist politics that were harmful.

I'm just waiting for pit and ocd to jump in. I'm sure they'll poo poo the FBI's stance, and attack me. Ignoring everything else. Watch.

Video 1. No proof of anything just Cruz grandstanding for the media and Trump base. FBI agent isn't stonewalling he's following procedure based on what appears to be an ongoing investigation. Cruz just wants sound bites. Jmo.

I hope there is an investigation. If there is a whistleblower i hope his accusations are investigated fully. Unlike any time that Trump faced a whistleblower and the GOP insisted they be revealed or all charges ignored, I'd take an allegation seriously provided there really is a whistle blower. If all or even some is true, reveal it. But only after it has been investigated and a finding made.

All the noise about Biden could stop this or the FBI are covering up .... Total BS and flies in the face of anything any Republican said anytime allegations were made vs Trump. Cruz is as bad a Schumer. Will watch vid 2 tomorrow.

And Paul Manafort was just coincidence? Yeah sure, like the praising of Putin by Trump was legitimate.

I did not prefer Biden, but every concern about Trump has come to fruition since he descended that escalator. Decent into hell for this country. And I blame the Democrats for greasing the wheels for 'glass ceiling' Hillary who could barely beat a real socialist.

Convict him if he’s guilty. Put in the same prison that donny ends up in. I don’t care.

If both are the nominee for their respective party I’ll pull the lever for Biden. I’ll take a supposed socialist over a treasonous pile of human trash.

Ditto!! Political grandstanding is all they got. Get your opinions to court. And Bidens adult kids making money for influence and art....what part of the world have you missed. Please go buy your Trump "collectables"- and send your check his finished wall/ his legal bills/ paying off hookers, etc., etc. The American people will pick a "socialist over a con man every time".

So you've been watching the trump situation, his crimes, how the house has weaponized the congress and all of the Republican gamesmanship going on.

Biden 24

If it were obvious it wouldn't be "allegations". I'm pretty sure you know what that word means. As for "The Biden's have issues as well. It gets no play", well that's just a lie. Every major news organization is reporting on it. And actually the FBI IS going to release the document. That news is a week old. It's not the news you're reporting that's bad, it's how they have you actually believing everyone is trying to cover it up that's so crazy. I understand there are allegations. I'm interested to see where these allegations lead. And you can bet if there's actually anything to it, the house who is investigating everything but their own mothers as of now will find it. I want all of our elected officials held accountable. Not just politicians of one party. Here is a story from a week ago from what you call "the liberal media".

Comer cancels Wray contempt vote after FBI offers to let full Oversight Committee review Biden document

“The Full Committee business meeting to vote on holding Director Wray in contempt of Congress is now removed from Thursday’s schedule,” Comer said.

This is one paragraph that explains it's actually the document itself that is simply having "an allegation" contained within it. Nothing more.

The FBI has offered to let all members of the House Oversight Committee view a redacted document that GOP Chairman James Comer claims describes an allegation of a bribe to Joe Biden when he was vice president, said a source familiar with negotiations around the panel’s subpoena to acquire the document.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ution-fbi-director-biden-probe-rcna88124

So I'm more than willing to see where this all goes but as of now there's not a lot of smoke to the fire.

Here's another article for you.....

What you need to know about the Republican-FBI clash over a Biden-related document

WASHINGTON (AP) — The yearslong feud between congressional Republicans and the FBI is reaching a new level of rancor as lawmakers prepare a resolution to hold bureau director Christopher Wray in contempt of Congress.

Rep. James Comer, the Republican chairman of the House Oversight Committee, has scheduled a committee vote for Thursday morning on the contempt resolution against Wray. He says the FBI has failed to comply with a lawful subpoena for an FBI record that documents an unverified tip about President Joe Biden.

The resolution to hold Wray in contempt — which would have to be approved by the full House — is just the latest broadside from Republicans against the FBI. They accuse the bureau of harboring bias against conservatives dating back to Donald Trump’s presidency and allege the bureau is now stonewalling legitimate congressional oversight.

Release of the document in question, FBI officials have warned, would jeopardize the safety of the confidential human source who received the unverified tip.

Here’s what to know about the clash between Republicans and the FBI.

The subpoena

Comer issued a subpoena to Wray on May 3 after GOP Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa received a whistleblower complaint. They said they were told the bureau has a document that “describes an alleged criminal scheme” involving Biden and a foreign national “relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions” when Biden was vice president.

“It has been alleged that the document includes a precise description of how the alleged criminal scheme was employed as well as its purpose,” Comer and Grassley wrote in a letter to Wray.

Both men have said they do not know if information is true, but insist the allegations warrant further investigation. The White House has accused Republicans of “floating anonymous innuendo.”
What is the document in question?

The document Republicans are focused on is what is known as an FD-1023 form, which is used by federal agents to record tips and information they receive from confidential human sources. The FBI says such documents can contain uncorroborated and incomplete information, and that the record of a tip does not validate the information.

The Biden document was written up by a longtime FBI source that both Republicans and Democrats have described as credible. In it, the source details an unverified tip received in 2020 about the business dealings of Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, in Ukraine. Hunter Biden worked on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company.

At the time, then-Attorney General William Barr told reporters that he was being cautious about information coming out of Ukraine. The House impeached then-President Donald Trump in 2020 over his push for the Ukrainian government to investigate the Bidens.

Why do Republicans want the record?

House Republicans have used their power in the majority to aggressively investigate Joe Biden and the business dealings of Hunter Biden, including examining foreign payments and other aspects of the family’s finances. Since January, Comer has obtained thousands of pages of financial records from Biden family members through subpoenas to the Treasury Department and various financial institutions

In the contempt resolution against Wray, the Oversight Committee says foreign payments to members of the Biden family could have implications for national security. It said it needs the FBI record as it considers whether legislation is needed to fix “deficiencies” in the financial disclosure requirements that apply to presidents, vice presidents and their families.

The committee is also demanding the FBI record be provided without redactions. The form that Comer has seen contained “a significant amount of highly relevant information to the Committee’s investigation” that was blacked out, the committee said, including the names of individuals who could be called in as witnesses.

Why is the FBI refusing to turn over the document?

The bureau has pushed back Comer’s threats to hold Wray in contempt and warned of grave risk to confidential human sources and the law enforcement process if the FBI record were released to the public.

“Protecting the identities and information provided by confidential human sources from unnecessary disclosure or undue influence is therefore critical not only because of safety concerns but also to avoid chilling their candor or willingness to continue reporting to the FBI,” Christopher Dunham, an acting FBI assistant director, wrote to Comer last month.

In an attempt to comply with the subpoena, FBI officials came to the Capitol on Monday to brief Comer and Maryland Rep. Jamie Raskin, the top Democrat on the panel, about the document. The briefing, which the bureau described as an “extraordinary accommodation,” lasted more than an hour and was conducted privately in a secure space because FBI officials said the “several-page” form contains sensitive information.

Both Raskin and Comer received a slightly redacted copy of the FD-1023 document during the briefing and were allowed to take notes on the substance of the form, though they weren’t allowed to keep it.

Frank Montoya, a former FBI supervisor who specialized in counterintelligence, said he worried that giving information about law enforcement sources to Congress could set a dangerous precedent and damage the FBI’s work.

“Who’s going to want to come in and tell you things if your identity can’t be protected,”, especially in high-profile investigations, he said.

Beyond that, Montoya said, distributing to Congress information that could theoretically be relevant in an ongoing investigation risks impeding it. “If I’m working on a case and you’re posting all my information online or in the newspapers or on the evening news…to make a political point — any chance I have of making that case” is at risk, Montoya said.

What’s next?

Comer said that the FBI briefing about the record was no substitute for providing a copy to the committee without redactions. He said he will move forward Thursday with holding Wray in contempt of Congress.

“The investigation is not dead,” Comer told reporters. “This is only the beginning.”

The first step in the contempt process will be holding a committee vote to send the resolution to the House floor. If the House approves that resolution and holds Wray in contempt, it would be up to the Justice Department — where Wray works — to decide whether to prosecute him.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy told reporters he would bring the contempt resolution against Wray to the floor as soon as next week.

Successful prosecutions for contempt of Congress are rare, though not unheard of. Steve Bannon, a longtime ally of former President Donald Trump, was convicted by a jury on contempt charges last year after a referral from the House Jan. 6 committee.

There’s also precedent for contempt charges against senior Justice Department figures. House Republicans approved a contempt charge against then-Attorney General Eric Holder in 2012, though the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington declined to bring a case.

The FBI says the contempt vote is “unwarranted” considering the bureau had “continuously demonstrated its commitment to accommodate the committee’s request,” while protecting the safety of sources and the integrity of ongoing investigations.

The White House dismissed Comer’s contempt push as “another fact-free stunt” intended to “damage the President politically and get himself media attention.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...-fbi-clash-over-a-biden-related-document

As of now it doesn't seem as if there's a lot of there, there. But we'll have to see how it all unfolds.

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I did watch the one video, but it didn't offer any proof of anything. I'll wait, if I see Biden perp walked out in cuffs, then I'll know. Kinda like we know about trump now.

j/c:

What's so funny, Joe? Biden awkwardly grins and chuckles when asked if he was caught on tape getting bribed - after Burisma executive claimed he kept 17 audio recordings of phone calls as an 'insurance policy'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...caught-tape-getting-bribed.html#comments

Republican Admits Biden Tapes Might Not Be Smoking Gun

For weeks, congressional Republicans have claimed the existence of smoking-gun evidence they say directly implicates President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, in a multinational influence-peddling scheme involving numerous U.S. adversaries.

Speaking on the floor of the U.S. Senate on Monday, Iowa's Chuck Grassley claimed to have knowledge of the existence of 17 recordings made by a Burisma executive kept as an "insurance policy" for their alleged business dealings, a claim that would directly implicate both Bidens in alleged bribery involving the Ukrainian gas giant.

The source of those claims, Grassley said, was reportedly a redacted FBI FD-1023 form that members of Congress are seeking the public release of—a sort of "tip sheet" that reportedly contains allegations from a "credible" foreign source directly linking the Bidens to crimes.

Whether the recordings exist, however, is a place few Republicans seem willing to go.

Speaking with Fox News host Maria Bartiromo on Tuesday, South Carolina Republican Nancy Mace—a House GOP Oversight Committee member and one of the leading voices in the Biden investigation—stopped short of suggesting whether the allegations were an impeachable offense, saying she did not want to jump to conclusions about crimes that might or might not have been committed.

And in an interview on Newsmax on Tuesday, Kentucky Representative James Comer left some room for reasonable doubt around the existence of any audio recordings involving the Bidens—only that someone the FBI interviewed claimed they existed.

"I can confirm they were listed in the 1023 that the FBI redacted," Comer said on the program. "We don't know if they're legit or not, but we know the foreign national claims he has them."

https://www.newsweek.com/republican...ZgtF8Bbja4AD69RrPg_g4AeTm0-fo6-Y4yeJ_oPo

Clearly you would rather have a blustery ass hat... Too bad.

They always run around hair on fire about every little thing they can muster against a dem POTUS. I haven’t and won’t put any effort into investigating their allegations until they show up with receipts. You know damn well if they actually had Biden dead to rights, impeachment would already be in progress. Just more nothing burgers from the party of distractions, coups, and fascist misfits… all in an attempt to take some pressure of Trump. Sickening.

Not to any extent, but one can't totally insulate from this country's mess.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-house-republicans-report.html

Luke Broadwater

By Luke Broadwater

Reporting from Washington
May 10, 2023

After four months of investigation, House Republicans who promised to use their new majority to unearth evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden acknowledged on Wednesday that they had yet to uncover incriminating material about him, despite their frequent insinuations that he and his family have been involved in criminal conduct and corruption.

At a much-publicized news conference on Capitol Hill to show the preliminary findings of their premier investigation into Mr. Biden and his family, leading Republicans released financial documents detailing how some of the president’s relatives were paid more than $10 million from foreign sources between 2015 and 2017.

Republicans described the transactions as proof of “influence peddling” by Mr. Biden’s family, including his son Hunter Biden, and referenced some previously known, if unflattering, details of the younger Mr. Biden’s business dealings. Those included an episode in which he accepted a 2.8-carat diamond from a Chinese businessman. G.O.P. lawmakers also produced material suggesting that President Biden and his allies had at times made misleading statements in their efforts to push back aggressively against accusations of wrongdoing by Hunter Biden.

But on Wednesday, the Republicans conceded that they had yet to find evidence of a specific corrupt action Mr. Biden took in office in connection with any of the business deals his son entered into. Instead, their presentation underscored how little headway top G.O.P. lawmakers have made in finding clear evidence of questionable transactions they can tie to Mr. Biden, their chief political rival.

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It has not stopped them from accusing the president of serious misconduct.

“I want to be clear: This committee is investigating President Biden and his family’s shady business dealings to capitalize on Joe Biden’s public office that risks our country’s national security,” said Representative James R. Comer, Republican of Kentucky and the chairman of the Oversight Committee. He emphasized that the president — not just his son — would be the target of his investigation, which he said would now “enter a new phase,” in which he would subpoena specific financial information based on material learned through bank records.

Federal prosecutors have examined Hunter Biden’s international business activities as part of a criminal investigation. But the only charges they are considering, according to people familiar with the case, are unrelated to his work abroad. They include tax charges related to his failure to file his tax returns over several years, and a charge of lying about his drug use on a federal form he filled out to purchase a handgun.

To date, Mr. Comer’s committee has issued four bank subpoenas, obtained thousands of financial records and spoken with several people he describes as whistle-blowers. Mr. Comer has also hired James Mandolfo, a former federal prosecutor who has experience investigating foreign corruption, to oversee the inquiry.
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The House Oversight Committee report focused on payments made to companies connected to Hunter Biden from businesses and individuals in Romania and China. Bank records obtained by the committee show the receipt of money from a foreign company connected to Gabriel Popoviciu, who was the subject of a criminal investigation and prosecution for corruption in Romania.

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In 2015, Mr. Popoviciu retained Hunter Biden, who is a lawyer, while his father was vice president, to help try to fend off charges. That effort was unsuccessful and, in 2016, Mr. Popoviciu was convicted on charges related to a land deal in northern Bucharest, the Romanian capital.

Mr. Comer has also focused on John R. Walker, an associate of Hunter Biden who was involved in a joint venture with executives of CEFC China Energy, a now-bankrupt Chinese conglomerate.

A Shanghai-based company, State Energy HK Limited, that was affiliated with CEFC China Energy sent millions to Robinson Walker LLC, a company associated with Mr. Walker, who then made payments to Hunter Biden and other Biden family members.

Hunter Biden had cultivated a business relationship with Ye Jianming, the founder of CEFC, who has been investigated by the Chinese authorities on suspicion of economic crimes. In 2017, Mr. Ye gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond as a thank-you for a meeting.

“What would they be bribing me for? My dad wasn’t in office,” Hunter Biden told The New Yorker in 2019, adding that he gave the diamond to his associates. “I knew it wasn’t a good idea to take it. I just felt like it was weird.”

CEFC had hoped to invest in a liquefied natural gas venture in Louisiana, but that deal ultimately flopped.

Representatives of Hunter Biden characterize his business offerings at the time as providing legal and consulting services.

so do the republicans actually have the audio tapes? or did they magically lose that, as well?

Tons of conflicting reports..

They have a witness, then they don't... who knows.

It’s another But her Emails…

NYT has become a rag. How about a better source? That doesn't cut it.

LMAO@U Everyone needs to subscribe to Breitbart!

They never had them. One of the FBI's "people/informants" simply filed a report that someone high up at Burisma reported to him that he had copies of such tapes. So it's a case of someone made a claim they had such tapes. As of now that's all it is. Time will tell I suppose.

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I didn't say that.

What i am saying is newspapers are going down the drain. They have for 25 years. They reply on subscriptions, thus, they report to what the readers want.

It isn't that hard to understand. If you sell hamburgers at your restaurant, but the customers want grilled cheese with bacon, you are going to start selling grilled cheese with bacon.

The NYT is out to sell newspapers.

FOX News, Newsmax and every right wing news source is out to do the same thing. Cater and mold their message to their base. If one is trash they're all trash. They're all out to make money.

That's how things work in an unbridled capitalistic society. You can't just pick and choose to suit your own agenda.

BTW- I'm old enough to remember the Watergate break in unfolding in the press. You are repeating the exact same thing they said about Washington Post and the way they labeled Haldeman and Ehrlichman. They hated the truth unfolding about Nixon so their tactic was to attack the messenger. And the same thing was claimed that it wasn't real and only to sell newspapers. The only real difference between the two is that unlike trump, Nixon had enough class and dignity to walk away.

The more things change the more they stay the same.