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It would not be hard at all. You don't think they have check cashing places in Mexico like they do here for people without band accounts? Millions upon millions of people in America don't have bank accounts either.

I'm still amazed the people who for decades have claimed our government can't do anything right have this all figured out.

Obviously you have no idea how it currently works. You can transfer money from the U.S. to Mexico for as little as 0.9%. That's less than one dollar per hundred.

About Money Transfers to Mexico

Monito compares 35 providers offering international money transfer servicesto Mexico. The total cost of the cheapest available option at any given point in the past three months was 0.9% of the transferred amount. In comparison, the total cost of the most expensive provider was on average 9.9%.

https://www.monito.com/send-money-to/mexico

You must think "these folks" are stupid enough to pay several times that amount for something they can accomplish much cheaper.

Scott criticizes DeSantis over his support for Florida’s slavery curriculum as they stump in Iowa

ANKENY, Iowa (AP) — U.S. Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina has criticized fellow Republican presidential candidate and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for supporting new standards that require teachers to instruct middle school students that slaves developed skills that “could be applied for their personal benefit.”

“What slavery was really about was separating families, about mutilating humans and even raping their wives. It was just devastating,” Scott, the sole Black Republican in the Senate, told reporters on Thursday after a town hall in Ankeny. “So I would hope that every person in our country — and certainly running for president — would appreciate that.”

“People have bad days,” Scott added. “Sometimes they regret what they say. And we should ask them again to clarify their positions.”

DeSantis has been facing criticism from Florida teachers, civil rights leaders and President Joe Biden’s White House on the school standards. Vice President Kamala Harris, the nation’s first Black vice president, traveled to Florida last week to condemn the curriculum.

Scott’s comments came as he and DeSantis stumped in Iowa ahead of the state Republican Party’s Lincoln Day Dinner, a gathering at which 13 candidates in the GOP presidential primary field, including front-runner Donald Trump, will be addressing an expected 1,200 activists on Friday. Scott, part of the GOP’s most diverse presidential field ever, was asked for his take on the standards hours after DeSantis defended them during a gaggle with reporters as he campaigned.

“At the end of the day, you got to choose: Are you going to side with Kamala Harris and liberal media outlets or are you going to side with the state of Florida?” DeSantis told reporters, citing Democrats’ criticism of the language. “I think it’s very clear that these guys did a good job on those standards. It wasn’t anything that was politically motivated.”

Responding on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, to reporters’ posts of Scott’s video, a super PAC supporting DeSantis on Thursday night called the posts “incredibly sloppy or intentionally disingenuous,” reposting video of DeSantis’ defense of the curriculum earlier in the day.

https://apnews.com/article/election...reUDvtMgGx5jy04oyeIH36kBLY86e1B2wa7yTc2A

A Republican that gets it.

BTW is " X, the platform formerly known as Twitter" anything like the artist formerly known as Prince?

That's what desperation looks like.

I wish Joe would sell Florida and Texas to Mexico.

Why would they pay money for us. Just let biden’s immigration policies with millions coming in each year and in a decade or two we will be Mexico.

Of course we will.

Do you mean the policies that have cut border crossings since he replaced trump's border policies?

Migrant encounters down 70% since end of Title 42, US official says

https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...le-42-was-lifted-us-official-2023-05-19/

You really need to keep up rather than continuing to spout that same tired rhetoric.

I think it is important that we celebrate victories, small though they might be. In that spirit, let’s celebrate!! We appear to have finally gotten you off that idiotic, lamebrained idea of these workers buying money orders, a stamp, stuffing it into an envelope and mailing it off, with the family getting it, hopefully in 4-5 days. Boy in the history of dumb ideas that one is top 5, maybe top 3.it is interesting that you hung on to that as long as you did, to the point where your argument was “I just don’t think it would work”. A powerful intellectual argument for sure, but just not enough.

And now you are arguing that there are different prices with different companies for transmittals. Holy cow, Batman!!! Really!!! In capitalist America there is competition for their business!!! Who would have thunk it. But of course that really is irrelevant to my point all along, that adding a tax of 0.5 or 0.75% will not drive them to sending money by snail mail, the pony express or any other method. You have shown nothing to suggest otherwise.

As far as the selection of a transmittal company, I read that the two biggest , in terms of volume to Mexico, were western Union and , I think, Money Gram. Neither is among the cheapest but they are the most used . Other factors may play a role in the choice.

It is strange that you lefties, who have never met a tax you did not like, fight this tax. Apparently you only want to increase taxes on Americans. Or maybe it is just what the money is to be used for. Border security!! Horror of horrors!! Maybe if it was going to bail out student loans, a really dumb idea to be sure, maybe you would be for it. Oh well, we have beat this to death and as long as dems are in charge. So moving on.

How insightful of you. Are you related to Eve? You think they'll pay several dollars for the same thing they can accomplish for a couple of dollars which they can do now with a money transfer. Talk about dumb ideas. And you're thought process is, "I don't think they will ever change no matter how much they have to pay." Yeah that's an intellectual idea.

See, what has you so upset is that I showed you just how cheap it is to send a money transfer rather than your claims. And now you have your panties all in a bunch. The language in your post says it all. You can't go around calling someone names and using personal insults then try to claim some faux intellectual high ground. You do grasp that concept, right?

And speaking of irony, isn't it you right wingers that always rail against taxes and push for smaller government? I mean until it comes to certain people being taxed , increasing laws based in using politics to control education or restrict the rights of certain people based their sexual identity. Then all bets are off, right?

Nobody including me is "fighting this tax". It's just a stupid idea that won't work and in order to make it work it would cost more to implement than what you would get in return. Stupid ideas like this have been tried before. Like the idea of drug testing welfare recipients in Florida along with a few other states such as Utah. I mean that sounds good in theory just like yours, right? But the evidence is that while something often sounds good in theory, once an attempt to implement the law starts, it's easy to see that the idea was nothing more than some wishful folly.

Another failed drug-test experiment

Remember Florida Gov. Rick Scott's (R) idea of mandating drug tests for welfare applicants? The idea was to save Florida taxpayers' money by forcing drug users to withdraw from the public-assistance system.

The results, however, were a fiasco -- only about 2 percent of applicants tested positive, and Florida lost money when it was forced to reimburse everyone else for the cost of the drug test, plus pay for staff and administrative costs for the program. Making matters worse, the courts rejected the law, forcing its demise.

Naturally, after seeing Rick Scott's experiment fail, other Republican officials elsewhere were eager to follow Florida's example of intrusive, big-government conservatism. Take Utah, for example.

Utah has spent more than $30,000 to screen welfare applicants for drug use since a new law went into effect a year ago, but only 12 people have tested positive, state figures show.

The preliminary data from August 2012 through July 2013 indicates the state spent almost $6,000 to give 4,730 applicants a written test. After 466 showed a likelihood of drug use, they were given drug tests at a total cost of more than $25,000, according to the Utah Department of Workforce Services, which administers welfare benefits and the tests.

Henry Decker added, "[T]he Beehive State spent more than 30 grand to weed out 0.25 percent of those seeking benefits."

In case it's not already obvious, if Utah officials had instead spent that money on job creation and job training, no one would be making fun of them now.

I understand the underlying point of these efforts. For the right, there's an ongoing desire to punish and shame the poor, working from the assumption that if someone is struggling during weak economic times, it's very likely their own fault. Indeed, we've seen a few examples of late of prominent Republican officials suggesting too many jobless Americans are lazy addicts.

But the idea is nevertheless ridiculous. Forcing those who are relying on the safety net to give the government bodily fluids in exchange for benefits is not only legally dubious; it's also ineffective and a waste of money.

And yet, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, at least 29 other states this year have considered similar proposals.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/another-failed-drug-test-experiment-flna8c11022195

So you advocate yet another rabbit hole to climb down and call people who disagree with you names and attack them while all the while trying to claim some intellectual high ground? What a joke.

I can sling mud just as well as you can since that seems to be the road you have decided to travel down. Just don't start whining about it later.

I do need to keep up………with the bogus info you like to spread. So let’s complete the picture you only partially painted. So we have reduced crossings 70%… from all time highs. So now we “only “ have 3-4,000 encounters per day, down from 6,500 per day. You do realize that 3,000 per day is 90-100,000per month or over 1 million annually. Is that better than the 2022 clowns show with 2.4 million?? Dang tootin but it is still a nightmare for our country and our border patrol. If you want interesting reading , which I doubt you do, read the stats for the year before the pres opened the border up. Averaged about 40,000 per month, less then .5 million per year. Amazing what can be done if you actually value our borders.the question you should ask, if you actually cared, is what the hell did we do to result in 2.5 million in 2022. And can we stop doing it.

When I first saw this I thought, wow a lot of words for a post on this subject. Then I read it and realized 75% of it had nothing to do with the topic at hand. I don’t care about drug testing welfare recipients. I don’t care what florida or any other state tried. There was only one proposal I made, the feds taxing transmittals to foreign countries. You appear to believe that a tax of .5-1.0% on transmittals will cause people to switch to way less efficient ways to get their money to their families. I think you are wrong. You also seem to think that the feds can manage to collect every tax you can think of but they can’t collect this one. I think you are wrong.

I have read enough of you to know you routinely insult people who disagree with you, so quit yer whining. There are a couple of points. First I did not call you dumb. I called your idea dumb. I’m guessing I would have been suspended for calling you dumb. If you don’t want me to call your ideas dumb don’t put out dumb ideas.

Second, please show me where I said anything about “I think people will not change no matter how much they have to pay”. I never said that, so you just made it up. Don’t do that. I said people will not abandon a very efficient process they have used for decades over a .5-.75 l% tax I stand by that.

Third, why did you say my “panties are in a bunch” over the rate people pay for a transmittal. I don’t care who they use or what they pay. It is irrelevant to this discussion.

I did not claim some “intellectual high ground”. I pointed out the emptiness of your argument, “I just don’t think it will work”. Empty argument .

I just hope we soon have an administration that will do this. Then we will find out who was right and who was wrong.

Actually those 6500 hundred a day were under the trump border policies. The reduction was under the new Biden policies. Who opened the border again? You might wish to check out the increase in deportations under Biden as well.

Biden administration ramps up deportations

According to the Department of Homeland Security, about 85,000 migrants have been “repatriated” since Title 42 was lifted. That’s up 65% since the same period last year.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-administration-ramps-up-deportations-rcna96351

I know how much it pains you when a Democrat actually makes things you complain about better and you are willing to walk through hell rather than admit it. You do you.

I don't whine. I get even.


Like the one you are proposing?


You sound like the people at the cable companies and those who used to provide us with home phones that charged long distance. You may wish to ask them how that worked out for them.


It was a rant not simply a post about rates. Man up.


When you use the language you did it was obvious you think anyone who disagrees with your idea must be stupid. Empty engagement.


Yes, just like the war on drugs we'll find out just how much money gets wasted on a tax that can't be enforced. It may prove you wrong here but it will prove you right in just how ineffective the federal government is. And when it does you will say you were right about that part all along. That's how it works when someone sits on both sides of the fence.

Yea let’s look at that “reduction”. In the 10 months BB (before biden) we had about 40,000 encounters per month. Feb 2021 we topped 100,000 for the first time in a while. Who was the President ? In March 2022 we topped 200,000 for the first time. Who was the President?? In December of 22 we topped 250,000 for the first time. Who was the President then?In may of 23 we still had 207,000. Who was the President?? Biden began deconstructing trump border control policies early on and more importantly the message was out with his election that things were changing at the border.

According to what I read your so called dramatic reduction is 2 months worth of data. Compared to 2.5 yrs of biden presidency.

And just a point of clarification. When I trumpeted .5 million in 2019 I was not implying that I was satisfied with that number. Still way too many!!

So it's getting much better and you refuse to admit it.

Trump Vowed to Slow Border Crossings. Now They've Hit a 12-Year High

https://time.com/5566997/trump-border-crossings-immigration/

And it only went up from there. Until trump implemented a "Covid Policy" which was nothing more than a temporary emergency measure with a time limit that depended on the Covid pandemic. Only once those measures ended and the Biden immigration policies were enacted did it go down dramatically.

You see, we don't disagree about people illegally coming into the country. We don't disagree that sweeping immigration reform is needed to stop it. But you do realize that a president can't arbitrarily rewrite our nation's entire immigration laws, right? As of now Republicans control the House. I would respectfully suggest you write them, call them or by whatever means necessary to encourage them to address this.

And please remember while you're finger pointing, remember that Biden tried to end trump's "Covid emergency policies" early to implement the one that's seeing the improvements we are seeing now. But that measure was blocked. Had that not have happened we would have been seeing the numbers drop before now.

Immigration has been an issue for decades. Under both Republican and Democrats controlling the White House, the House and the Senate. None of them have actually addressed it including 45. The only difference between us is that you wish to blame one side for that and specifically Biden. I blame them all as it should be.

Well we have kicked this around quite a bit. I do not think I have anything else original to add so I think I will say adios. Well, having said that, that article above says trump got numbers down at the border via Covid policy. But the numbers in the 6 or so months before Covid was heard of we averaged about 40,000 or so per month, about the same as the rest of 2020.

So, despite some of the heat generated, Pit, I have enjoyed the conversation the past few days. Have a good one.

You too keith. I don't take any of this type of banter personally. I wish it were that way for everyone.

Florida effectively bans AP Psychology course over LGBTQ content, College Board says

The state’s decision to restrict AP Psychology comes several months after its decision to block AP African American Studies courses.

Florida "effectively banned" Advanced Placement Psychology classes in the state due to the course's content on sexual orientation and gender identity, the College Board said Thursday.

The state's Department of Education informed the College Board that its AP Psychology class is in violation of state law, the higher education nonprofit said in a statement. Florida's Parental Rights in Education Act, or what critics have dubbed the "Don't Say Gay" law, restricts the instruction of sexual orientation and gender identity in the state's classrooms.

“The state’s ban of this content removes choice from parents and students,” the College Board said in a statement. “Coming just days from the start of school, it derails the college readiness and affordability plans of tens of thousands of Florida students currently registered for AP Psychology, one of the most popular AP classes in the state.“

The state's move to restrict the AP Psychology course comes several months after its decision to block AP African American Studies courses was widely condemned by academics and civil rights activists.

The College Board added that Florida will allow superintendents to offer the college-level psychology class for high schoolers if they exclude LGBTQ topics.

However, the College Board argued that excluding the lessons — which it describes as teachings on "how sex and gender influence socialization and other aspects of development" — "would censor college-level standards."

It added that lessons regarding sexual orientation and gender identity have been included in AP Psychology since the course was created 30 years ago.

The group said that more than 28,000 Florida students took AP Psychology in the prior academic year.

When asked to confirm that the department effectively banned the course, Cassie Palelis, a spokesperson for the Florida Department of Education, or FDOE, said the nonprofit was “attempting to force school districts to prevent students from taking the AP Psychology.”

“The Department didn’t ‘ban’ the course. The course remains listed in Florida’s Course Code Directory for the 2023-24 school year. We encourage the College Board to stop playing games with Florida students and continue to offer the course and allow teachers to operate accordingly,” Palelis said in an email. “The other advanced course providers (including the International Baccalaureate program) had no issue providing the college credit psychology course.”

When asked by a reporter on the presidential campaign trail on Friday if AP Psychology was banned in the state over the inclusion of sexuality and gender topics, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said “that’s wrong.”

“That’s part of our course catalogue,” he said. “I bet it’ll end up being offered.”

He appeared to imply that similar college-level classes could be offered through nonprofit organizations other than the College Board, including International Baccalaureate.

In a statement shared with NBC News on Friday, the Florida Association of District School Superintendents said it is working "diligently with FDOE and school superintendents who want to continue to offer AP Psychology."

"Superintendents are openly communicating with parents their district’s plans for this course or an alternative college level course as we prepare for the start of the school year," the statement, sent by association spokesperson Diana Shelton Oropallo, said. "AP Psychology continues to be listed in Florida’s Course Code Directory and we hope that College Board will keep the best interests of students at the forefront and award college credit to all Florida students who successfully complete the AP Psychology exam."

The governor's office did not immediately return a request for comment.

The American Psychological Association, the nation's largest scientific and professional organization of psychologists, argued against stripping AP Psychology of LGBTQ topics earlier this year, after the state requested that the College Board review sexuality and gender identity topics in all advanced placement courses.

“Understanding human sexuality is fundamental to psychology, and an advanced placement course that excludes the decades of science studying sexual orientation and gender identity would deprive students of knowledge they will need to succeed in their studies, in high school and beyond,” the association's CEO, Arthur C. Evans Jr., said in a statement in June. “We applaud the College Board for standing up to the state of Florida and its unconscionable demand to censor an educational curriculum and test that were designed by college faculty and experienced AP teachers who ensure that the course and exam reflect the state of the science and college-level expectations.”

Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, the nation’s second largest teachers union, said the decision to restrict AP Psychology in the state is “part of the DeSantis playbook of eroding rights” and “censoring those he disagrees with.”

LGBTQ advocates also condemned the state's AP Psychology restriction on Thursday.

“Psychology is centered around people – all people," Kelley Robinson, president of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest LGBTQ advocacy group, said in a statement. "Erasing us from the curriculum ignores our existence, sets back Florida students who want to pursue psychology in higher education and disrupts pathways for future mental health professionals to provide comprehensive, culturally competent mental healthcare for the LGBTQ+ community."

DeSantis, a Republican who is running for president, signed the so-called Don’t Say Gay law last year.

The law was widely condemned by LGBTQ activists and prompted an ongoing feud between the governor and The Walt Disney Co., Florida's largest employer.

The measure initially prohibited “classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity” in kindergarten through third grade “or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards” in public and charter schools.

But earlier this year, DeSantis doubled down, signing a measure into law expanding the restrictions to explicitly include students through the eighth grade. The newer version of the law also restricts reproductive health education in sixth through 12th grade.

In addition to enacting the "Don't Say Gay" law, the governor recently signed into law a measure that bars transgender people from using public restrooms that align with their gender identities and another that restricts drag performances in front of minors. A judge subsequently blocked the drag law.

On the final day of LGBTQ Pride Month in June, DeSantis’ presidential campaign released a video portraying the governor as a champion of anti-gay and anti-trans policies.

The video garnered widespread attention for its pairing of DeSantis’ anti-LGBTQ policy accomplishments alongside images of shirtless bodybuilders, in what appeared to be an attempt to portray the Florida governor as strong. It was condemned by both Republicans and Democrats, with some calling it "homophobic."

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...ourse-lgbtq-content-college-bo-rcna98036

Goper’s being paranoid and afraid of others sexual identity isn’t exactly novel. Same as it’s always been.

Wheres 40 at? Cause this is the epitome of Nanny state crap right here

It’s clearly keeping conservatives from moving there, or even affording to stay there, seeing as they’re the main ones complaining about the cost of living due to DeSantis.

But go ahead and chalk it up to Libs being mad.

Not really. My Dad has a house on the water in Tampa for the last 30 years. High insurance is nothing new. Its always been that way. In the last 10 years there have been massive housing developments in his suburb. And people lining up to buy those homes. There has been a large influx of people. But sure, libtards got to scrape up a story from nothing. How about a story about too many people moving in. Not on your agenda? pffft.

Ha, that’s interesting. I’m staying in my in-laws’ condo on the beach in Tampa right now. I genuinely wonder how close I am to your dad’s place. Having a beach is nice. It is uncharacteristically hot, and I’ve been coming here for 19 years. The ocean seems really warm too. Shockingly warmer than usual.

One thing you did say, though, over the last ten years. I would agree that Florida has been booming “over the last ten years.” Probably longer than that, actually. It used to be a swing state. I might wonder to what level it has reached its apex. Insurance has been high and it is something new. It has never gotten to this level.

It has historically been a state where retirees go. We are currently in the midst of the largest retirement population in our nation’s history. That would make sense. What I think we have to take into account is not what has been happening, but where the direction will go. In 2007/early 2008, people thought it was certifiably insane to short something like the real estate market. Well, it turns out things need time to play out. Florida is going through a lot of controversy right now, spurred by a man who unequivocally has a lot of personal ambition, despite the fact he has squandered it as of late. We shall all see how it plays out. I, for the life of me, can’t really think of one thing he has done to make the state better. He loves cultural issues, but I don’t know how that furthers the better lives of his constituents. Perhaps Florida or someone else who lives here can shed light on that.

...and that's what makes him a less-than serious candidate for POTUS. His only bona fides were that he was "Trump without the baggage." And now, we see his own baggage accumulating around him specifically because of the sociopolitical stances he's been taking. His stupid 'anti-woke' fights with Disney, coupled with the books/curriculum controversies have shown that he's incapable of controlling the situations he alone put in place. His policies have created more hardships for himself than any benefit they've created. Verdict: another Stooge on stage.

Why would any MAGA-leaning voter consider voting for Coke Zero, when the Original Diet Coke is still in the running?
In his bid to become "Trump without the baggage," he's revealed himself as: "Trump Lite- half the taste you love, with none of the caffeine..."

At some point, those who voted him into office at the state level will realize just what an empty suit he's truly been... and will hire his replacement.

He will never be POTUS, and he won't long be Governor.

We are watching a d00d's career collapse in real time.

I guess we’ll see. He certainly seems to have quite the grip on the Florida voters for governorship, despite the fact he’ll likely lose in the Florida primaries.

I saw an article headline that caught my attention that said “If DeSantis wants to defeat Trump, he should run against Trump.” Such a simple concept that he - and many of the Republican primary candidates ignore. I understand that they don’t want to alienate the base, but, at the same time, why would the base then vote for anyone else?

I can’t remember who it was on here (Eve maybe?) that was certain Trump would not get the nomination in ‘24. I guess we’ll see. It certainly looks like he will with the alternatives out there.

Report: Miami-Dade losing more residents than gaining

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/report-miami-dade-losing-more-residents-than-gaining/

That's the largest city in America with a Republican mayor.

Rising cost of living in not quite so free Florida

https://www.politico.com/newsletter...ng-in-not-quite-so-free-florida-00105554

Florida rocked by home insurance crisis: ‘I may have to sell up and move’

Soaring hurricane-cover premiums are bad news for the state’s homeowners – and Ron DeSantis is accused of dragging his feet

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/15/florida-hurricane-insurance-crisis-climate

https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/states-move-to-from/

People moving to Florida in droves. People fleeing California, New York and Illinois in droves.

So what you post and your sources mean something but everyone elses don't. Got it.

But I do see why it would be attractive to right wing extremists.

Facts dont lie. Your deflecting wont work. There is an L on your forehead. I have better things to do.

Well of course you do. That's why you're here doing this instead. The facts and sources I posted didn't lie either. The only loser here is someone who goes on the internet that can't lee things like "libtard" out of their posts and make posting during wine-thirty their mantra.

From the article...

"The population loss in Florida's largest county stands in contrast to the rest of the state, which added more people between 2021 and 2022 than any other state in the nation."

I probably have the same or similar qualms that you have - albeit more toned down - with those states that you mentioned. That being said, though, I’m still not sure if the population shifts are really indicative of DeSantis. In that article you posted, it cites to both an increase in being closer to family as well as a rise in retirement, which the two can both be correlated. Florida is and has always been a retirement hot spot. The Boomers retiring would logically boost Florida’s population, just by association.

I think there needs to definitively be more time to figure out his impact. Again, I can’t really point to one thing he has distinctly done to improve the state, unless you view his COVID/culture wars as improving the state, which I don’t see as tangible.

If his policies - whatever they are - work and Florida improves across the board, then kudos. He did something well and everyone in his corner was right. However, it may take a little bit for either to happen. I liken it to the economic boom under Clinton. Everything looked great at the time until you realized a large portion of the boom related to his policy of tossing out mortgages to people who had no business having one. We didn’t see the full effects of that until 2008 though.

It is rather comforting to see the right wing extremists cluster up together. When you keep them confined to fewer locations in clumps like that it's much easier to keep an eye on them.

So, what you're saying is you can't admit the truth... and that you posted a bogus article that has nothing to do with the conversation... so now we're "right wing extremists".

Stay woke, Karen.

Sure. The population is growing in Florida. But when someone insists on using "libtard" in every sentence I'm not going to give them the satisfaction. And you may wish to look at who was making the claims of why it is growing. Her reasoning was in upholding DeSantis extremists policies. So since that was her reasoning, I gave credit for that being the reason. I know you just love to jump into the middle of these silly culture war discussions. But maybe it's time we all look at the fact it's exactly the war DeSantis is waging. If you would like to hop in here and claim his culture war policies are why the population of Florida is growing, by all means do so.

If in fact that is your reasoning, then this fits what you're saying...........
If not, it doesn't. But thus far that's what the discussion has been predicated on. Context is everything.

DeSantis has found yet another target in his raging culture war......

DeSantis slams NBA players union over Orlando Magic criticism

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is pushing back against the National Basketball Players Association’s (NBPA) recent criticism of the Orlando Magic’s donation to a pro-DeSantis super PAC.

“It appears the NBA took a break from protesting our anthem and bending the knee to Communist China to chirp about my policies,” DeSantis wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

Orlando Magic Ltd. made a $50,000 donation to pro-DeSantis super PAC Never Back Down in late June, according to a Federal Election Commission (FEC) filing.

The NBPA released a statement Thursday calling the donation “alarming.”

“A political contribution from the Orlando Magic is alarming given recent comments and policies of its beneficiary,” the statement said.

The donation was first noted by an SFGate journalist.

A spokesperson for the Orlando Magic told The Hill earlier this week the contribution was dated and delivered May 19, days before DeSantis officially launched his presidential campaign.

“To clarify, this gift was given before Governor DeSantis entered the presidential race. It was given as a Florida business in support of a Florida governor for the continued prosperity of Central Florida,” Joe Glass, chief communications officer for the Orlando Magic, said.

At the time of the donation, DeSantis was widely expected to run for president, and Never Back Down has been reserving television time in early primary states since at least April.

The Orlando Magic is owned by RDV Sports Inc., controlled by the late billionaire and GOP donor Richard DeVos. The family also has ties to Trump, who selected Betsy DeVos as his education secretary.

In a statement shared with The Hill, a spokesperson for the DeVos family said none of the family members has offered financial support to a 2024 presidential candidate yet.

DeSantis’s presidential campaign came under fire in recent weeks when it laid off 38 staffers in an effort to revamp amid low polling numbers.

His team also fired a staffer last week who reportedly made a pro-DeSantis video featuring the Republican candidate at the center of a sonnenrad, an ancient European symbol used by the Nazis in their imagery and propaganda.

DeSantis continues to trail behind former President Trump, with a Morning Consult poll this week showing he has support from 15 percent of Republican primary votes compared to Trump’s 58 percent.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...szX8cWakeTp_RkxQlfY43ko7CFIy8MpXSVsSXMmc

Trump Zero strikes again.

You shouldn’t tangle with Pit, that’s how he ropes you in. He tries that with me, but pages of back and forth between he and I just TAINT gonna happen.


Sorry Pit, I had to do it…

I don't really mind. I give what I get and I don't expect any less in return.

Can we get lucky enough to have everybody in the far right move to Florida, and everybody on the far left move to California. Then they can stay there while the other 48 States ignore them

j/c...

It's always funny to me how one side is always made out to be a "raging culture war"... the other side is just "well, that's just what's right". 🤣

And yes, I always jump in the middle. The beginning is boring because the usual players haven't started moving all the goalposts and screaming bloody murder yet... The "end" is just the same three people talking to themselves about more things that don't matter to anyone else.


un j/c...

So, Pitt, what does Dade county have do do with the original conversation?

Never mind, we all already know the answer.

This 100.