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what do you think?

Since this will end up and is a purely political topic I will decline commenting on the topic here.

i agree

He’s a C list country singer that marketed himself into a top selling song. Scummy play, but it worked.
He was on stage when the Las Vegas shooter fired shots. He immediately ran. (No beef with that frankly. As I too would have run. I just don’t beat my chest as a ‘small town tough guy.) Not once did he tell people to run or cover.

He’s like many from that side of the Mason Dixon. Willfully ignorant of their white flag history.

I don't care about Pop artists and their tunes. And make no mistake: modern Country music is Pop, just with a twang.
Zero interest/zero opinion/zero care.


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Some people probably take this guy and his little tune seriously, no seriously.

Of course I am not surprised a person from Portland would be a little sensitive.

I think I am sick of people who's skin is so thin they can see through it.

Honestly I couldn’t care less. It’s country ‘music’. It’s barely music. Like Clem said, it’s pop music for guys that drive trucks with truck nuts. I’ve never heard the entire song. Nor do I plan on it.
It’s not surprising that someone like Peen would defend a racist hillbilly.
So there.

(FYI… I’m FROM Ohio. I moved west to get away from the types of people that would defend racist hillbillies… yet here we are.)

I find it odd you decided to segregate yourself to get away from "racist hillbillies" and call yourself a progressive type person.

Seriously man...that isn't any different than saying you moved out because too many blacks were in your area.

Seriously, it's the same emotion.

It's a good song. Only reason people that don't like it is they get butt hurt when someone points out the crime that was committed during the mostly peaceful protests. Haha!!! Nothing racist about the song. He does not even speak of race in the song. He just points out that crime will not be put up with in small town values. That is correct. We respect our law enforcement and would not spit on a cop. That is not who we are.

I think wrong forum. This is PP IMO.

The board’s dog whistle has spoken.


Look up the history of the courthouse he chose to pose in front of.
But whatever. He’s made his money off of rubes that think his music is good.
All good.

Its racist cant spin it any other way.

I moved away from small town small minds. Never looked back.
You do you.
Enjoy your pop stars in cowboy hats.

It's racist, plain and simple??

Please explain.

I refuse to get into a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed.

Awe, that's cute.

So, in other words, you've got nothing and just felt like saying "racist".

Go hide in your hole now, so you don't feel obligated to school me.

I have common sense and I am done with this conversation. Have a good day

Okay since it seems the refs find this an appropriate forum to discuss this I'll chime in.

I'm not sure why the outrage over this specific song. Let's face it, this is what a lot of country singers do. They get wealthy by using patriotism, "look how tough we are" and things they think separate them from "the other side". I'm more offended myself when they use things like fallen troops and and songs about supporting war than I am trivial songs like this. I think the fact they have to sing about how tough they are actually shows how insecure in that fact they are. I mean who has to go around singing about how much of a bad ass they are if they're really a bad ass? I find it all quite comical.

Does it send a message of violence towards those who think differently than they do? It certainly does. But like that hasn't become normalized long before this song came out. It uses the same tired, old BS line about "takin' mah guns" we've heard for decades now. So while I don't disagree with those who state that, I guess my question is, "What the hell is new about that?"

The one thing I take issue with is the location chosen to be used which is that court house.......


Which brings us to the question of was this done on purpose? Now I know this next thought may not be popular with some but that's never stopped me before. I highly doubt Jason Aldean knows enough about such history to have had any idea the history of this location when the video was shot. And for the sake of full disclosure, I didn't have any idea of the history of this location either until it became quite public. So why would I expect him to know it?

It is possible that those in charge of choosing the location for the filming of the video had some nefarious reasoning for choosing it? While that's possible I haven't seen any evidence of that being true.

So, much the way I see the far right outrage over Bud Light, I see this much the same way. I mean when it comes to certain artists in country music, "They're gonna do what they're gonna do and what they've always done." Of course then again nobody used the sight of a lynching or promoted violence in the Bud Light promotion. But I digress....

This most likely could have all been diverted with just a little bit of honesty and candor. I think this could all have been avoided if Aldean had just come out and made the statement that he had no idea that this lynching occurred at this court house and had he have known that a different location most certainly would have been chosen. And said that while he understands how offensive it may be that it was an honest mistake. But in today's political climate we can't have that now can we?

I think it was a chosen spot. I think the entire thing was a publicity stunt to boost sales of a below average talent. It worked. Sadly.

Its the trump way, make money at all costs.

nevermind.

Yup.

I think everyone took this, and themselves, WAAAAAAY too seriously. Turn off your idiot boxes people and stop getting faux-raged into whatever the boxes are telling you.
It's a song. End of story. Don't like it? Don't listen to it.

Good grief, even if you appreciate the message of the song, it still isn't a good song by any stretch of the imagination.


If you want to have fun, however, look up some music videos from Tom MacDonald

Yeah, that's why I included this in my post......


It seems so many on both sides find some "reason to be outraged" anymore it's getting hard to keep up with.

I certainly do like some of what is called country music. but as with every genre I'm very selective about which artists I like. Jason Aldean has never been an artist I have cared for but it has nothing to do with this particular event.

While I'm quite sure it happened well before the early 80's, the first song I remember liking that was about "country boys" per say was Hank Williams Jr.'s "A Country Boy Can Survive". While I'm not a big Hank Jr. fan it was one of a few of his songs I liked and still like. In the end it's advocating vigilante justice. It's about how country people are strong and self sufficient. To be sure it would fall under the category most would describe as redneck.

I certainly won't say that you're wrong because I have no way of knowing for sure either way.

What I will say is that I try not to fall into the trap of making up some conspiracy theory based on "how I feel" about something without having any actual evidence to support it. But everyone has the right to do that if they so choose. From looking at the statistics, what I have found there were the number lynchings of black people between 1865 and 1950 in the south is somewhere between 4500 and 6500 depending on the source. As such it seems to me to be logical to consider that it would be quite easy to choose a location that just so happens such an event happened at in the south than some idea it was a planned incident to garner attention. As it stands Aldean is a very popular country music artist and doesn't actually have the need to stage such an event to draw attention to himself.

But I guess anything is possible. I just see too many people relying on the "anything is possible" mantra to base their beliefs in these days for me to follow them down such a path.

I was thinking the same about people from Tennessee.

NO IT’S NOT THE SAME AT ALL.

I’m your huckleberry. It’s racist because it focuses on the BLM protests. It’s political because it shows supposed ANTIFA and libs standing up to fascist BS. And it’s pee brained because it’s pee brained. And it’s not really music, more of a woe is me look how bad the big meanies are in the city, don’t try that in the country burgs or we’ll crush you… If 50K BLM protestors showed up in his home town, the only thing you would see of him is the yellow streak running down his leg and UP HIS BACK. PUHlease. GOPers just ain’t right in the head.

If 50,000 blm showed up in his home town, to peaceably protest, why would he pee himself? Oh, you mean if 20 violent protestors showed up in his home town.

Someone else said it.....but you act childish in my opinion.

And portland: If you don't like todays "country" music, don't listen to it. But don't denigrate those that do. Seems rather pompous to me, on your part. Everyone has their taste in music. I don't care for yours, but I don't demean you for liking what you like.

I guess if only we all were so 'enlightened" as you, huh? Now, I could go on a rant here about the pacific n.w. people, including an aunt, uncle, and 2 cousins that live there. But what would it do? Cause more issues. You didn't like Ohio, you moved. Good for you. But now you think you're better than what you left? Please.

Unhinged just a bit!!! Might want to seek help, sounds like their might be a mental issue here.

The song actually does not focus on the BLM protests. It focused on the civil unrest and the riots. Everyone including conservatives believe that BLM had the right to protest. They did not have the right to riot and should have faced much harded consequences for their actions. The song just said that crime like the riots would not have been put up with in a small town. That would be correct. Our police force would have made arrests and would not have had to worry what the mayor thought of their actions. The citizens support their local police in small towns. That is called law abiding.

One of these days you’ll get that I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK.

Yes you could have expanded your rant since a rant is already what you were posting. But at the same time I'm not saying you're wrong.

One thing I will say is what country radio is passing off today as country music now isn't country music at all for the most part. There are still a few actual country artists getting some air play but that number has dwindled significantly.

Well, don't call it "country", call it pop music if you like. Call it whatever you want. Just don't call it garbage unless you (not YOU, per se) eh, you know.

I don't care for rap music anymore. Why? Because I don't. Rape, shooting cops, describing the 'hood", gangstas. I don't care for classical music. Because I don't. I don't belittle and demean those that like it.

My taste in music is different than others taste. No problem. Shoot, even my wife and I disagree on music. She got me into country, and now she's back to hair bands from the 80's. It is what it is. Demeaning others for what they like is just stupid, prigish, and "holier than thou". That's how I feel.

Oh I love reading the cheap shots I was first to use on this board being fired back at me. Comical. GOPers shouldn’t wade in beyond baby pool depth of exchanging jabs in PP until they can form original thoughts and their own cheap shots. Sad.

The song is focused on a right-wing perspective about the BLM summer protests. It’s simply the wrong way to think about things… just like everything else GOPers have chucked out there since 2015. Trump and Faux News has dropped the average IQ of most Trump lovin’ GOPers by 20 or more at minimum. That’s evident by merely observing the things they say and do. Brain damage is a tough hand to play, but hey, as long as you keep “BORROWING” talking points, sayings, and cheap shots from a ‘radical leftie’, you might be able to pass yourself off as a critical thinker.

“Seek help”, Where did I see that first… You are not the only one that does this, but the comedy of seeing it day in and day out on here is a real knee slapper. You should be more like Eve, she only has one or two original bullets in her clip, but she doesn’t regurgitate my own material back at me. SMH.

Sturgill Simpson, Greensky Bluegrass, Billie Strings, Chris Stapleton, BlackBerry Smoke, Willie Nelson, Dale Watson… I could go on and on listing talented country acts.
What passes as today’s corporate country pop is straw hat hot garbage.

If you want to know what I think if corporate country do a YouTube search for Bo Burnham, country music. It’s pretty spot on with my thoughts.

Arch… no I’m not better than those I’ve left behind in my small town, but I am more traveled. With that, more empathetic of the bigger world. If you haven’t left your zip code how can you have any kind of real world, world view? I saw how those I grew up with treated those that were different. It wasn’t as ‘all inclusive’ as some think small towns are. I assure you of this.

Actually, listen to the song. It does not say protest once. It does not mention BLM. It mentions crimes being committed. Right wing or left-wing crime is crime, and it was a tragedy that criminal acts were allowed to happen all summer long. Riots are not right no matter what the reason. January 6th was a criminal act and I condemn what happened at the Capital and all that participated should be held accountable. The problem is that those that despise what happened on January 6th condone the riots of the summer of 2020. Protests were fine. People were killed, homes, businesses were destroyed, property vandalized and none of that should have happened or been condoned. Jason Aldean pointing that out is the only reason some on the left are butt hurt about the song. I think quite a few people on the left want people to forget the riots and focus only on the protests. The riots did happen and whether or not people want us all to forget quite a few people remember and don't ever want to see anything like that happen again.

LOl...I agree about country being much like Pop. I have never listened to Jason Alden, at least knowingly. Some current stars are country, but not most. That is why my playlist ends sometime in the 90's with few exceptions.