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DTR is our best backup

cade york is officially a problem

York is a dork lol

Between stefanskis short yard playcalling and us still not having a kicker since Dawson we are going to be bottom dwellers again

really a lot to be desired tonight

Wow York we are going need those FG's in some of our tougher games ...

it's going to win or lose us 2-3 games this season IMO

Hot take , York won’t be our week one kicker

Tommy Togiai really isn't good lol

Berry has missed on more picks than he’s hit. It’s the reason our depth sucks

Eating us up.

Our dbs are just bad bad bad

really a disappointing night after the first 12-15 plays. You can really see that our depth is not good and we are a really disjointed team right now

DTR will be the backup

DTR looks really good!!!!

Im questioned why we drafted DTR, but he is really showing out. He seems to understand what is going on around him, seems to make quick reads and has nice touch on his throws.

Welp it’s garbage time

I'm cutting him Monday...

The offense went from stalled, to vibrant, to stalled again.

2nd and 23 no problem against these future car wash attendants

sounds like the first car I ever owned

Mond is a PS guy

staple play!

Hickman is balling

So .... dows Austin Watkins Jr have a chance at a spot, roster, or PS?

Is it time to lower expectations for the season in spite of the talent.

NO matter the talent, this offense could ruin superman.

the Ist team had seven or more plays inside the 30, and they did not target an eligible receiver in the end zone with that first team offense.

Whoever is in charge of the offense, continually costs you 3 points AT LEAST in the first half,
and that is not on the players or talent,
that is, dumb choices, not taking the FG when it... when you are inside the 6 yard line, game after game, after game,
after game last year, after game last year, after game after game.

They didn't even, try a target, a blasted target into the end zone , with the ones,
if you are happy not getting into the playoffs
then give the offense a hey yeah. but,
wake up folks, head coach or some coach, is costing you points, and wins.

I really like him. I have him seventh on the depth chart.

Cooper
Moore
DPJ
Tillman
Bell
Grant
Watkins

I know we haven’t seen Grant yet but we really need him for our special teams.

last year i watched on an app on with a firestick. havent tried this year

Backup guys who caught my eye tonight
DTR (again)
Bell
Watkins (again)
Mitchell-Paden (also on ST)
Hickman
Hurst
Phelps

Togiai did get pressure on a couple of plays, getting credit for 1/2 sack. I don’t think he looked good overall. Same with Martin

Glad that was just a pre-season game. The Browns have no depth and need an FG kicker.

Not even once = less than rarely.

It is terrible how analytics and in game coaching is ruining all of this talent on offense.

How many times can they be all but shut out in the first half and the end of a game comes down to an onside kick just to have a chance.

Do the Chiefs ever re@uire that?
The Browns? It is about nine out of fourteen games

There is no way they will ever win a championship with this head coach, no matter who you put on the team in individual positions.

Questions and thoughts from watching the game:

What did/has Josh Dobbs EVER done to garner that $2MM guaranteed deal he signed earlier this year? I know he's really smart and is a great guy. But how about playing the position he's signed-for. That mistake guarantees we will burn up (3) spots at QB for the 53;

What did/has Josh Dobbs Jordan Elliott EVER done to garner that $2MM $1.5MM guaranteed deal he signed earlier this year? I don't know if he's really smart or is a great guy. But how about playing the position he's signed-for. That move guarantees that we will cut a guy - or not bring in a guy - who is simply better or with better potential;

What in the world did Mond show last year to steal a spot on the 53 for the entire year;

DTR has already, wildly exceeded my expectations;

Watson still looks a little clunky and uncomfortable...but light years ahead of last year;

I'm sorry...but Felton is not an NFL RB...he's just not. AB trying to save face on his selection...again. Let's play someone else...anyone else...to see if they can be a RB here;

I'm sorry...but Schwartz is not an NFL WR...he's just not. AB trying to save face on his selection...again. Too bad other guys like Watkins don't get that many opportunities;

Harris is an undersized C and is not special in any way...yet he is getting a ton of opportunities...I wonder who drafted him. We know he's a skater...lets see what Wypler has;

Why can we NOT find a 6'2"320 pound dude who can plug the middle as a backup DT. Winfrey is a dipshoot...but he's better than the other backups;

Ski still has no clue in the read zone...none...zip...nada;

Right now...I don't see how we can go into the year with York as our K;

I keep reading about our needs at KR...I say we fair catch EVERY kickoff so as to not keep a guy like Felton as an insurance KR and/or with a guy like Grant making the roster;

I don't think it's going to be "hard" to make this roster...especially for AB's draft picks who are getting a glaring amount of opportunities...we don't have this plethora of talent like we are telling ourselves...again.

good points. I sense that Felton and Kelly try to bounce it outside far too much and it hinders our offense.

In terms of Mond/Dobbs ... yeah, they stink. DTR is our backup

I also am starting to think we don't have as much talent as we thought. Fairly good amount but not a huge amount.

well we certainly don't have the depth, especially in the front 7

We also have to remember that Cooper, Bitonio, and Chubb didn't play with the offense. That's a significant upgrade

2 games into a vanilla preseason and a few of y'all's comments is hilarious.

They do not stand out, and neither seems to have glaring upside. I AM excited about how DTR looks, his work habits, and the more I hear, the more I like him. He acts and moves like DW. If his game can be brought along to make use of his skills and play like Watson, I see him as our backup easily as compared to his competition. The other two don't seem to bring enough to be NFL starters. .02

lead...it was disgusting watching Stefanski's GOAL LINE OFFENSE, (from the 1-2 yd line) that picked up right where Stefanski's 2022 offense ended..FAILING..!

On the first run..Stefanski decides to run his smallest RB on a power dive play...just one problem, RB Felton misses the hole that developed off the butt of #77 Teller in the A-Gap. Felton takes one glance at all those big bodies and plants his foot and bumps the play to the outside, where the Browns TE got his butt shoved into the backfield...NO GAIN..!

Stefanski's next short yardage brain storm, from the 1 yd line...let's run "a power sweep" to the left with #41 RB Kelly, pulling our center #55 and guard #68 to lead the play. That play may have worked but the Browns RT #78 allowed the Washington DE, who lined up just off of CONKLIN'S right shoulder...Conklin bypasses the DE, allowing him to run free while our #78 decides to take the LB who is at the 2nd level...this while #90 Montez Sweat runs down the Browns RB from behind.

Stefanski simply has no clue when it comes to running POWER FOOTBALL...it seems that Stefanski always tries to get cute in the red zone...he is going to get himself FIRED if he doesn't pull his head out of his butt. He had the entire off season to address red zone offense and this is what he came up with.

I agree. The other two are so below average