"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
RBs Chubb Ford Strong Guy not yet on roster. We need a 4th because of Ford’s injury
WRs Cooper Moore DPJ Tillman Bell Goodwin
TEs Njoku Adkins Mitchell-Paden? I want to say it’s Bryant but I have no idea why he is not practicing.
Oline Wills Bitonio Posic Teller Conklin Hudson Jones Dunn Wypler Harris- possible trade bait
Dline Garrett Z Smith Okoronkwa Wright MacGuire Tomlinson S. Harris Hurst Elliott Ika
LBs Takitaki Walker JOK Fields Adams
Cornerbacks Ward Newsome Emerson Mitchell Ford Green. Not happy with his play but didn’t see anyone better. Possible cut from somewhere?
Safety Thornhill Delpit McLeod Bell
Special Teams Kicker. Not on roster LS Hughlett P Bojorquez
Kunaszyk injury Bryant injury
I would like to see either Diabate or Hickman stick. Maybe if we trade Nick Harris and only keep 9 oline. Ika was also injured but I haven’t read how bad. If he is ok I’d cut Elliot but unfortunately I think he’s safe.
You're pretty spot on, P. I agree with hoping we keep Diabate ... but you won't be too far off
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Something I was just made aware of is that Diabate will most likely make the roster over Adams because they can get a verbal agreement with him to terminate his contract and bring him back as soon as they put Kunaszyk on IR.
I see us carrying more than 6 WR.. I don't see how Bell makes it over Watkins.. Bell has done nothing other than be drafted by this FO
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I see us carrying more than 6 WR.. I don't see how Bell makes it over Watkins.. Bell has done nothing other than be drafted by this FO
I'll be quite surprised if the Browns keep 7 WR on the roster. They may initially in the cut to 53, but the roster is very fluid the week or so after finals cuts.
I cannot fathom Berry releasing another 3rd round WR draft pick in favor of an UDFA after having released Schwartz.
If nothing else, I hope another team signs Watkins to the 53 man roster upon his release, he seems to have earned it and it's fun to see hard work rewarded.
If we are going to go mostly 3 WR, as has been opined, then 7 isn't too many. We'll see.
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I see us carrying more than 6 WR.. I don't see how Bell makes it over Watkins.. Bell has done nothing other than be drafted by this FO
I'll be quite surprised if the Browns keep 7 WR on the roster. They may initially in the cut to 53, but the roster is very fluid the week or so after finals cuts.
I cannot fathom Berry releasing another 3rd round WR draft pick in favor of an UDFA after having released Schwartz.
If nothing else, I hope another team signs Watkins to the 53 man roster upon his release, he seems to have earned it and it's fun to see hard work rewarded.
I agree on Bell.
I agree with Lead, he has shown very little, but after 1 year isn't the time to cut a player, just like last year wasn't the time to cut Schwartz.
We talk about player development alot on this board, but it sure seems like some don't want to give the time for that to happen. If Bell is a ghost this year, he gets cut next year.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I can see 7 WRs only if we keep 3 RBs instead of 4
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
The leash being given to these guys is ridiculous:
Felton - WR? No...KR/PR? Nope...RB? Not. They literally just traded for a RB to be the #3.
Elliott - 0,1,3 T? Nah. New scheme? Nope. They signed, traded, and drafted three guys who leaped frog him in the rotation. At least two for sure.
York - Kickers that can't kick the ball straight are the only thing more maddening than a WR with 'iffy' HANDS. I think many believe the writing is on the wall here
Harris - Too small for C...awful at G...why pickup Wypler if Harris is any good? They extended Pocic and drafted Wypler pushing Harris down the chart and a possible trade/cut candidate
Mond - Burned a spot on the 53 all year last year. What in the world did he show in practice last year? They put him on waivers until another team gave then a great deal for Dobbs. He's a #3 at best and would have been gone if not for the last-minute trade.
Togiai - Big, strong-in-the-weightroom...can't get it done. See above for Elliot comments. Is depth a bad thing?
Forbes - Will that guy EVER get and stay on the field? This was a Dorsey draft pick. Not sure where the ego is coming from.
Schwartz
Dobbs
That up there ^ reeks of FO-ego over player-talent.
I simply don't get the premise of this argument.
Arguably, there has been no GM more aggressive the past few years to replace starters (often time brought in by him via FA or the draft) from the prior year than Berry. He replaced the interior line in one offseason. He signed JJ3 and then cut him a couple years later, then signed Thornhill. He cut Troy Hill after one year of a four-year contract. He drafted Harris, then replaces him/extends Pocic after Harris got injured and didn't event have a chance to reclaim the starting role. These are just a few examples. I don't get the argument that late round picks still around for depth purposes, having no further chance as a starter (outside of injuries), is an ego-thing. And that's not to say some of the late-round guys drafted will still be on the roster after cuts.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
The leash being given to these guys is ridiculous:
Felton - WR? No...KR/PR? Nope...RB? Not.
Elliott - 0,1,3 T? Nah. New scheme? Nope.
York - Kickers that can't kick the ball straight are the only thing more maddening than a WR with 'iffy' HANDS.
Harris - Too small for C...awful at G...why pickup Wypler if Harris is any good?
Mond - Burned a spot on the 53 all year last year. What in the world did he show in practice last year?
Togiai - Big, strong-in-the-weightroom...can't get it done.
Forbes - Will that guy EVER get and stay on the field?
Schwartz
Dobbs
That up there ^ reeks of FO-ego over player-talent.
I pretty much agree Willie.
I would say i understand the dilemma York presents and not wanting to cut him. I'd also say Mond is the 3rd stringer. I don't know that you are going to find any better, or that it even matters other than you need a 3rd string QB.
Next year DTR will have a season under his belt. We can then draft another QB to replace Mond. Just keep that 3rd string job filled with a rookie every other year. Sooner or later will will get an offer for DTR that we will want to take.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I can’t see Diabate not making the 53. He’s flashed too much and if we try to PS him, surely he’ll be claimed.
thats kind of my take on Watkins.. He lead the nfl in preseason. Thats not nothing. And with Grant going down and I'm not sure I want to put my eggs in a 32 year old basket with blood clots in goodwin
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Peen mentioned player development and its a good note, but I ask this.. Who on this team has gotten better from the time we've drafted under stefanski? I can't name a single one. I can tell you just from preseason alone the defense looks to be much improved under JS, I'm curious to see how guys like Takitaki and newsome/ward/elliot/delpit/emerson do this year. Some coaches can get the most out of players. Stefanski hasn't shown to be that kind of coach yet. He's going to have to be for us to take that next step.
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JMO. If we have another losing season this year, I would think KS is in serious trouble. There is too much talent on this roster to not have a winning record although we are in, IMO, the toughest division in the league not to mention the most physical. That's why KS has to do something about York. Too many games are going to come down to a FG and we don't have a reliable kicker. Also, we have a DC that has HC experience and would be a prime candidate if KS job security becomes an issue.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
The leash being given to these guys is ridiculous:
Felton - WR? No...KR/PR? Nope...RB? Not. They literally just traded for a RB to be the #3.
And somehow Felton is STILL on the roster.
Elliott - 0,1,3 T? Nah. New scheme? Nope. They signed, traded, and drafted three guys who leaped frog him in the rotation. At least two for sure.
And somehow Elliott is STILL on the roster...and with $1.5mm of GUARANTEED $$$...and STILL invisible, yet in a new scheme
York - Kickers that can't kick the ball straight are the only thing more maddening than a WR with 'iffy' HANDS. I think many believe the writing is on the wall here
Harris - Too small for C...awful at G...why pickup Wypler if Harris is any good? They extended Pocic and drafted Wypler pushing Harris down the chart and a possible trade/cut candidate
A 3rd string C better not be a skater at G...shoot...he's a skater at C as well
Mond - Burned a spot on the 53 all year last year. What in the world did he show in practice last year? They put him on waivers until another team gave then a great deal for Dobbs. He's a #3 at best and would have been gone if not for the last-minute trade. My point there is how in the world was he on our 53 all year last year? I'm not sure he's PS worthy
Togiai - Big, strong-in-the-weightroom...can't get it done. See above for Elliot comments. Is depth a bad thing? No...of course not. But this guy couldn't get on the field ahead of Winfrey. He keeps Elliott from being the worst DT on the roster.
Forbes - Will that guy EVER get and stay on the field? This was a Dorsey draft pick. Not sure where the ego is coming from.
AB brought him back to us after we finally moved on...and he's still here...and he still can't get/stay on the field.
Schwartz
This cat was kept waaaaay too long.
Dobbs
Signing him to a $2MM guaranteed deal was ALL ego.
That up there ^ reeks of FO-ego over player-talent.
I simply don't get the premise of this argument.
Arguably, there has been no GM more aggressive the past few years to replace starters (often time brought in by him via FA or the draft) from the prior year than Berry. He replaced the interior line in one offseason. He signed JJ3 and then cut him a couple years later, then signed Thornhill. He cut Troy Hill after one year of a four-year contract. He drafted Harris, then replaces him/extends Pocic after Harris got injured and didn't event have a chance to reclaim the starting role. These are just a few examples. I don't get the argument that late round picks still around for depth purposes, having no further chance as a starter (outside of injuries), is an ego-thing. And that's not to say some of the late-round guys drafted will still be on the roster after cuts.
I'm not saying AB sucks or should be fired...but his/their comments about 'competition' and such take a big hit when looking at those ^ examples.
that's not a good move IMO. He's better than Wyplier
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Was listening to CBD moments ago and Zegura had the opinion that the FO might keep two kickers on the roster. Essentially saying the FO still really likes York and know he would not clear waivers to be added to the PS. It will be interesting to see if that happens.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
Was listening to CBD moments ago and Zegura had the opinion that the FO might keep two kickers on the roster. Essentially saying the FO still really likes York and know he would not clear waivers to be added to the PS. It will be interesting to see if that happens.
Well scratch that idea....
I hope they already have the replaced lined up.
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At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
Was listening to CBD moments ago and Zegura had the opinion that the FO might keep two kickers on the roster. Essentially saying the FO still really likes York and know he would not clear waivers to be added to the PS. It will be interesting to see if that happens.
Well scratch that idea....
I hope they already have the replaced lined up.
Hopkins.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
maybe York makes it to the PS, but I agree it had to be done
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
It's why I mentioned that people shouldn't have been so convinced about "coach speak" when they were publicly supporting York. It's what every coach does. They always support the players on the roster, until they aren't on the roster. I think everyone who understood that felt pretty sure this move was coming at some point.
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