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Yes, this move had to be made for reasons I stated on an earlier post.

now lets hope that Hopkins makes his first kick LOL

Who is Hopkins?

OK...just saw on the other thread about Dustin Hopkins.

You'll always have this, Cade....

York's big leg makes this move troublesome. This front office and coaching staff could not afford for York to lose games for them. But, if he ever figures out how to be a 90% to 95% kicker inside of 50 yards he could be a great kicker some day making 60+ yard kicks for some team. I would not be surprised is a team that is in rebuild does not pick him up and try to develop him.

true but on the flip side, you maybe don't wait until preseason is over to bring another one in. But Kudos for them not waiting until he lost us a couple games

Just cut bait and move on. It would be disastrous if York was on the PS, Hopkins pulls his hamstring again, York gets called to the gameday roster and proceeds to cost them team a game.

could you imagine the hate he would get lol

The FO has - or will - cut every backup G that camp into camp this year once Dunn is released. This has got to be the 'release and re-sign game' to get over the initial 53.

Gossard was the first to go and Forbes is out with an injury designation. I predict Dunn and Martin will be signed after the first-on-the-53 guys hit IR. No way do they think Wypler AND Harris could suffice as the backup OGs. I think manipulating the roster like this is pretty darn smart.

Guys I think we'd like to get to IR after the initial 53:

A Wright
I Thomas
J Kunasaycxhz!

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D Ward (maybe)
H Bryant ?

That's a lot of guys to save a seat for.

It might not even matter if the Browns want York back, he might prefer a fresh start with a new team.

I agree on Dunn. I forgot he wasn't subject to Waivers. He and the Browns may already have a handshake deal.

j/c...

Goodwin coming back squeezed Watkins off the roster.

Our Top 4 WR's are set
1. Cooper
2. DPJ
3. Moore
4. Tillman
For #5/6 we are opting to go with Bell and a 32 about to be 33-year-old journeyman who has not offered anything of substance since 2017 in comparison to someone who has had one a heck of a pre-season and is only 25.


this makes sense.

I can only imagine they hope to get him on the PS.

Bad break for Watkins. I understand wanting to go with the proven burner in Goodwin.

The best thing for him will be to get picked up. The best thing for us is he isn't and we can put him on the practice squad. I have a feeling he is more than the yearly flash in the pan receiver that gets everybody excited. I think he can become a pretty good player, but in the end we aren't going to miss him. He wasn't going to get much playtime.

My only real regret is that over time, I think he will be better than David Bell.

Why not? They don't need to learn the playbook. Kicking is very straight forward. It's exactly the same for every team. Two weeks is more than ample time for a kicker to adjust to kicking a ball through the uprights in a different location.

After the draft investment they placed in York I understand why they would wish to give him every opportunity to prove himself before making such a move and I think they made that move at just the right time. They look at things from a business aspect and not an emotional one. I mean it's not like they pulled a Schwartz with York.

Bad break for Watkins, had a fantastic preseason and I really thought had a legit shot at making the roster. Will get picked up by someone else relatively quickly though imo. Shame about York, but dude just was not cutting it anymore and Hopkins does have the better percentages if you will; we shall see.

I think this decision is a clear indicator of the stark difference between how this team is being ran now verses in the past.

Before, I think they would have sided with keeping the younger WR with high potential rather than a 32 year old that has shown limited production over the past four years. And in this case I really wish they would have. I mean Goodwin is a decent WR but it's not as if he's going to light it up. He hasn't caught more than 27 passes in a season or caught for over 400 yards in those past four seasons either.

But he certainly has NFL experience. There is certainly a lot of film on the guy showing him having success against top NFL competition covering him in the secondary. Some actual proof he can compete against the best. That's something they don't have with Watkins.

In years past I think they may very well have went with the young guy with upside rather than stick with a 32 year old with limited potential. But when you're playing for now rather than trying to build a roster for the future, your strategy changes.

this will be yet another dumb move by berry... Goodwin is 32....just coming of blood clots...he should have just been set to pasture, he's not even had a 1k season and he his whole career has been meh. Watkins did everything you want and lead the nfl for the preseason. Just more proof that Berry has zero clue on being able to find receivers. The only decent one in his tenure was Cooper and he was a star before he came here.

I agree with most everything you said. The only difference between Schwartz and York is you can afford to stash that 6th or 7th receiver. You can't do that with a kicker.

I don't think we kept Schwartz too long. He got his 3 camps and 2 seasons to prove himself. I don't think that is unreasonable. It would have been more unreasonable to cut him after 1 season, especially since you can keep a position player around without hurting the team. If we could have kept York around for another season without hurting the team, we would have. Who knows, maybe we still find a way. I'd say the odds are fairly slim he is signed to some other teams roster at this point. Maybe we do stash him on the practice squad to give him another shot next season. I am not saying probably or likely. Just saying maybe.

Watkins is a 25 yr old 6-2/209lb WR led the team in receptions in this 2023 pre-season...


Goodwin did NOTHING for the Browns but try to heal his "blood clots"...plus he's a 5-9, 185 WR who ran 4.27-40 many years ago.


Someone in the Browns front office still has "overwhelming" fascination with 40 times and smallish WRs.

There is a chance that Watkins gets picked up...I hope not !

It's interesting how Schwartz was given 3 seasons
To show how inept he is at WR and Austin Watkins
Showed more in 3 games yet is cut.
Schwartz should have been released after his 1st season

I really don't disagree with your premise here. The only caveat would be that I do think there were times they put Schwartz on the field that his play did hurt the team.

They didn't have the same WR talent on the roster then that they do now. Which makes your comparison non existent.

j/c…

no surprises to me thus far. Hoping Dunn comes back

You mean to tell me Maurice Hurst couldn't make
The final 53 after all the off season hype !!

Hurst and Dunn are likely back after Wright and Kunaszyk get put on IR.

Nice seeing Hurst retained, out of the back DTs....he was the only one that was flashing.