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The indictment against the president's son comes after a plea agreement on tax and gun charges fell apart in July and amid a probe of his finances by House Republicans.

Federal prosecutors have indicted Hunter Biden, son of President Joe Biden, on gun charges, court documents show.

Biden was indicted in Delaware federal court on three counts tied to the possession of a gun while using narcotics.

Two counts are tied to Biden allegedly filing a form claiming that he was not using illegal drugs at the time he purchased a Colt Cobra revolver in October 2018. The third count alleges that he possessed a firearm while using a narcotic.

The historic indictment against the son of a sitting president comes after a plea deal that might have ended a years-long probe into Hunter Biden fell apart and just as House Republicans have launched an impeachment inquiry in an effort to seek bank records and other documents from the president and his son.

The case is being overseen by special counsel David Weiss, who also headed the investigation. Weiss is a Trump appointee who was kept on as U.S. attorney for Delaware because of the sensitive and unique nature of the investigation into a president's son by the Justice Department, a part of the executive branch headed by the president. U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland named Weiss special counsel in August, as negotiations over the tax and gun charges collapsed.

Weiss’s investigation was opened in 2018, the year before Joe Biden announced his candidacy for president, according to a source familiar with the inquiry, and focused on the younger Biden’s finances.

The two sides reached a plea agreement in July which called for Hunter Biden to plead guilty in Delaware federal court to two misdemeanor counts of failing to pay his taxes in return for prosecutors recommending a sentence of probation. A separate felony gun charge for illegally owning a Colt Cobra .38 Special handgun would have been dropped in two years if Biden honored the terms of what’s known as a diversion agreement.

The agreement started to fall apart at the court appearance where it was expected to be finalized after the judge presiding over the case raised questions about some details. “The agreements are not straightforward and they contain some atypical provisions,” U.S. District Judge Maryellen Noreika noted, including one that could theoretically protect Biden from other tax-related crimes in the same time period.

Prosecutors said the provision in the diversion agreement would not protect him from different charges, while attorneys for Hunter Biden said it would. Noreika, a Trump-appointed judge, asked both sides for more information, and the agreement — which Republicans were already blasting as a “sweetheart deal” — subsequently fell apart.

In subsequent court filings, Weiss’s office noted that without the plea agreement in place, there were venue issues and the case would most likely have to go to trial in California or Washington, D.C. Prosecutors also suggested that they might bring different charges in the new case.

Hunter Biden attorney Abbe Lowell, meanwhile, argued the diversion agreement is still in effect because it had already been signed by his client and prosecutors and said it “prevents any additional charges from being filed against Mr. Biden.”

“We expect a fair resolution of the sprawling, 5-year investigation into Mr. Biden that was based on the evidence and the law, not outside political pressure, and we’ll do what is necessary on behalf of Mr. Biden to achieve that,” he said last week.

Prosecutors dispute that the agreement is in effect, arguing it lacks a necessary signature from the probation department.

Attachments to the plea agreement and the diversion agreement that were filed in court blamed Biden’s conduct in the tax and gun cases on his drug and alcohol addiction. The documents say that he got sober in May of 2019, and with the help of a third-party paid off about $2 million in back taxes and penalties by October of 2021.

The White House has been largely silent on the investigation, but the president defended his son in an interview with MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle on May 5.

“First of all, my son has done nothing wrong,” the president said. “I trust him. I have faith in him.”

Asked by Ruhle how charges against his son would impact his presidency, Biden said, “It impacts my presidency by making me feel proud of him.”

Hunter Biden told CBS News in a 2021 interview that he was “cooperating completely” with the federal probe. “And I’m absolutely certain, 100 percent certain,” he said, “that at the end of the investigation, I will be cleared of any wrongdoing.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/hunter-biden-indicted-federal-gun-charges-rcna39623

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Guess what? If it wasn’t so damn easy to buy a gun and there were universal back ground checks there wouldn’t be an issue with Hunter at all. And we know how conservatives love their guns like porn. So really I don’t get it. Oh yeah moving the goal posts. Nevermind.


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Indicted Trump Asks to Buy a Glock at Campaign Stop—Which Would Be Illegal
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Mon, September 25, 2023 at 5:00 PM EDT·3 min read

In a PR stunt gone terribly wrong, former President Donald Trump went gun shopping on Monday with Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene and asked to buy a Glock pistol on camera—which would have brazenly violated the very same law that recently landed Hunter Biden criminal charges.

Federal law prohibits anyone under indictment from attempting to buy a firearm. Trump has been criminally indicted four times in as many jurisdictions—Atlanta, Miami, New York, and Washington—facing dozens of felony charges that could land him in prison for decades.

“I wanna buy one,” Trump said while taking a tour of Palmetto State Armory, a federally licensed gun dealer in South Carolina that's widely revered by firearm enthusiasts.

“Sir, if you want one, this one’s yours,” a person on the tour said, seeming to divert the president away from making an actual purchase.

“No, I wanna buy one,” Trump insisted.

It only added to the fiasco when those present pulled South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson into the photo op—as well as his brother, Julian Wilson, an executive at the private equity company that owns the gun dealer. They are both Republican Congressman Joe Wilson’s sons.

The disaster started when Trump's campaign spokesperson, Steven Cheung, tweeted that his boss actually went through with the sale.

"President Trump purchases a @GLOCKInc in South Carolina!" he posted Monday afternoon.

But the campaign went into damage control mode as soon as firearms journalist Stephen Gutowski and others pointed out that the entire transaction would be blatantly illegal.

“Did he actually go through with the purchase?” Gutowski asked openly in tweet.

Cheung later claimed to CNN that Trump never actually went through with the purchase—and deleted his original statement. The Daily Beast could not immediately independently confirm whether Trump finalized the deal.

The irony is that the federal law Trump appeared to almost violate is the very same one that the feds used to indict President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter.

The federal law that restricts how someone may buy or sell firearms is 18 U.S. Code § 922, the go-to statute for prosecutors seeking to imprison felons who manage to acquire guns after serving time in prison, straw purchasers who buy a gun with the specific intent to sell it to another person, and other people who aren’t allowed to acquire them. That law is why anyone buying a gun from a licensed dealer must fill out what's called an ATF Form 4473, which asks: “Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military?”

Answer “yes,” and no gun shop can legally sell you a gun. Trump, who is facing criminal charges across the eastern seaboard, would have to answer in the affirmative.

Republicans—and Trump in particular—have been calling on the Department of Justice to hold Hunter Biden accountable for violating the same statute, in his case, for lying about drug use on that form.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/indicted-trump-asks-buy-glock-210045268.html


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In a PR stunt gone terribly wrong, former President Donald Trump went gun shopping on Monday with Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene...

I got this far, and had to stop. It took me about 15 seconds to regain my breath, I was laughing so hard. This is what now passes for political news in America.


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What would the penalty be for Hunter Bidens crime if he weren't the presidents son?


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I hope somebody investigates that to see if he attempted or did finish the purchase. A special council should do that. Like Jack Smith.

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Really doesn’t matter if the purchase was completed or not. He attempted to commit yet another crime. And he’s the GOP front runner. LOL. Pffft Gopers.


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I hope somebody investigates that to see if he attempted or did finish the purchase. A special council should do that. Like Jack Smith.


Your comment just shows how idiotic the anti trumpers are, seriously.

Here's the video:


At NO point did he ask to fill out the paperwork. At NO point did he present anything.

He made a comment, at a photo op...............and the anti trumpers go ballistic.

yet, nothingness on hunter bidens proven illegal purchase of a gun. hunter BOUGHT on, with lies. Trump makes an innocent comment and ..............said,and pathetic.

If I didn't have a license, but I was famous and I went to a BMW dealership and looked at the latest and greatest, and mad the comment "I'd like to buy one", would that make me wrong? I didn't buy it.

See, things like this are what make the trump haters look like idiots.

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Yeah, that was pretty obvious.

He was BS ing his way through the media event, but that was the store that the Jacksonville killer got his stuff.

That was the real message

Form 4473 is like 7 pages.

I question the use of the word haters, I have little time for someone that is a liar, so if that makes me a hater I can wear that with honor.


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And then on the other hand we have a man with 91 criminal counts against him as the front runner for the nomination to run as their candidate for president. And on this very board people such as yourself and many others have refused to say one thing about any of that. I mean if we're going to talk about people who look like idiots........


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Sadly the movie Idiocracy is looking more and more like a prophetic tragedy rather than a satirical comedy.


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Sadly the movie Idiocracy is looking more and more like a prophetic tragedy rather than a satirical comedy.

Just said that Sunday!


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Of course the Republicans don't want the public to see it. They want it done in secrecy so they can put their own spin on it and nobody can prove otherwise.......

House GOP denies Hunter Biden demand on impeachment inquiry testimony

The Oversight Committee has subpoenaed the president's son to appear for a private deposition on Dec. 13.

Hunter Biden’s legal team demanded that he be allowed to testify publicly in response to a House GOP subpoena. James Comer quickly shot it down.

A Biden lawyer sent a letter to the House Oversight Chair Tuesday morning, saying the president’s son would appear publicly before the committee on Dec. 13. That ran counter to a stipulation of the subpoena, which called for a private deposition with lawmakers and aides.

“A public proceeding would prevent selective leaks, manipulated transcripts, doctored exhibits, or one-sided press statements,” Abbe Lowell, Hunter Biden’s attorney, wrote in the letter. He added that they were also amenable to any other date next month the two sides could agree on.

Comer denied the request in a statement Tuesday, saying it “won’t stand with House Republicans.”

“Our lawfully issued subpoena to Hunter Biden requires him to appear for a deposition on December 13,” Comer continued. “We expect full cooperation with our subpoena for a deposition but also agree that Hunter Biden should have the opportunity to testify in a public setting at a future date.”

Typically, House panels insist on a private deposition before allowing a public appearance. The Jan. 6 select committee denied several requests to testify publicly, including one from Rudy Giuliani.

The demand from Biden’s lawyers to testify publicly marks the latest salvo in an increasingly public back-and-forth between the president’s son and House Republicans, who view him as their top witness in a sprawling impeachment investigation focused on President Joe Biden. It has primarily focused on the business deals of Hunter Biden and other family members.

Lowell had initially indicated, in the immediate wake of Comer’s subpoena last month, that Hunter Biden was willing to speak with the committee “in a public forum and at the right time.”

The president’s son is just one of several targets of House GOP impeachment inquiry subpoenas or interview requests made in the last month. Comer also subpoenaed James Biden, Joe Biden’s brother, to appear for a deposition next month and Rob Walker, a Hunter Biden business associate, to appear for a deposition on Wednesday. Several other Biden family members received requests to voluntarily appear before the panel for questioning.

House Republicans are months deep into their multi-pronged investigation, with Republicans looking to make a decision early next year on whether or not to pursue impeachment articles against Joe Biden.

And while Republicans have found examples of Hunter Biden involving his father to try to boost his own profile and poked holes in some of Joe Biden’s and the White House’s previous statements, they’ve struggled to find a direct link that shows Joe Biden took official actions as president or vice president to benefit his family’s business deals.

At the same time, impeachment advocates are still facing skepticism from a coalition of centrists and old-school conservatives who support the investigations but don’t believe they’ve met the bar for impeachment, at least not yet. Given that no House Democrats are likely to back impeaching Biden, Republicans will need almost near unity in their conference.

In addition to Biden family business deals, Republicans are probing other avenues, including the years-long federal investigation into Hunter Biden and Joe Biden’s handling of classified documents, which is also the subject of a special counsel investigation.

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Cheap Trick.... If the GOP has no fear about them being turned inside out, put it on TV and let the world see it unfold. The only one taking a chance it Hunter Biden. If the GOP has the goods on Biden, and they say they do, then they run no risk of falling flat.


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That is 100% something Comer would do.


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Cheap Trick.... If the GOP has no fear about them being turned inside out, put it on TV and let the world see it unfold. The only one taking a chance it Hunter Biden. If the GOP has the goods on Biden, and they say they do, then they run no risk of falling flat.

It’s called controlling the narrative. Trump loving MAGA Gopers are notorious for saying one thing behind closed doors and another thing in public.


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There was a graphic that was created by Comer as one of the many "smoking guns." It did not smoke (although use of pot by its creator could be suggested), nor did it shoot.


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Cheap Trick.... If the GOP has no fear about them being turned inside out, put it on TV and let the world see it unfold. The only one taking a chance it Hunter Biden. If the GOP has the goods on Biden, and they say they do, then they run no risk of falling flat.

It’s called controlling the narrative. Trump loving MAGA Gopers are notorious for saying one thing behind closed doors and another thing in public.

It's like when Kevin McCarthy released all the videos from Jan 6 to Fox and Fox goes out and cherry picks a few videos that kinda show a peaceful protest. Which anyone with a brain knows that wasn't the case. AT ALL!

Like you say, it's the narrative they want to control.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
That is 100% something Comer would do.

Just glancing through the article, it appears to be 100% what any/all of them would do regardless of (R) or (D) and is the normal practice. It is also, as stated in the article, what was done during the testimonies for the Jan 6th stuff.


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That is 100% something Comer would do.

Just glancing through the article, it appears to be 100% what any/all of them would do regardless of (R) or (D) and is the normal practice. It is also, as stated in the article, what was done during the testimonies for the Jan 6th stuff.

As a reminder, most all witnesses at the Jan 6 hearings were Republican and worked for Donald Trump in his admin.


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I wouldn't paint with that broad of a brush.

I'm not sure how familiar you are with Comer, but I have really followed him a lot since the Transdigm hearings in 2021. If you watch those - which you probably won't - he was among - no, not among - THE absolute worst when it came to obfuscation of the facts, gaslighting, deflection, etc. It was truly a remarkable standout for something that should have absolutely been a bipartisan, apolitical problem. He has not deviated from that style in any setting in which I have seen him speak since. Gerry Connolly was by far the most pragmatic in that hearing and some on the right were fine, as well, but he embodied the mockery of what a stereotypical politician is, and continued to do so.

His conduct at that hearing - and since - has almost made people like Jim Jordan and Virginia Foxx look like moderates. Even those two, in the 2019 Transdigm hearings (yes, there were two because the company is THAT corrupt), spoke with some (read minimal) level of decorum.

Comer is horrendous. He is the Republican Tlaib.


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Add to that the fact that he made some wild claims about what witnesses would say during public testimony in this same case and they pretty much said the opposite. He has looked like the fool in these hearings already more than once. It's not complicated to understand why he wants this done in private so he can control the narrative no matter what the testimony is. He claims they will have a chance to testify in public later. Yeah, AFTER the 2024 elections.


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If Hunter escapes conviction, I’m calling him el Jefe. He’s now papa Hunt. Hunt the godfather.

The right wingers made him look cool as hell with that movie of theirs, and now he’s gonna be the very thing Trump and Don jr wish they were in real life: mobsters.

I need Hunter to drop a diss track after this. Get Tom Hank’s son to be featured on it.


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I’ve ragged on James Comer before. He is just starting to become more of a public figure with the whole Hunter Biden investigation. For any of you who were confused as to why I deplore him, please see Exhibit A above.


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Hunter’s impeachment is still the first order of business for the MAGA right. Pfft Goper’s are insane. He will only answer questions in a public setting. Another “L” for trump and his MAGA men.


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Can you blame him? Thus far every claim they've made has been false. Can you imagine the false claims they would make about his testimony behind closed doors if the American people couldn't hear it for themselves?


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With four trials coming up and 91 charges already, I'm guessing we'll see a different name on one of those orange jump suits first.


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Did Comer forget what he told Hunter Biden? Now they're going to charge him with contempt of congress for taking him up on his offer?

James Comer Seems to Forget He Said Hunter Biden Could ‘Choose’ Public Hearing

While Comer rejected Hunter Biden’s offer to publicly testify, last month he declared it Biden’s choice to testify in public or private.

House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer (R-KY) flat-out rejected Hunter Biden’s offer on Tuesday to testify in a public hearing, claiming the president’s son “is trying to play by his own rules instead of following the rules required of everyone else.”

However, just a few weeks ago Comer insisted that those subpoenaed in the Biden impeachment inquiry could “choose” between appearing for a deposition or a committee hearing.

Responding to House Republicans’ recent subpoena of Hunter Biden, the first son’s lawyer Abbe Lowell countered Comer’s offer to meet behind closed doors. In a three-page letter, Lowell flagged several instances in which the chairman had basically dared the presidential scion to testify before Congress.

“Mr. Chairman, we take you up on your offer,” Lowell wrote in the letter. “Accordingly, our client will get right to it by agreeing to answer any pertinent and relevant question you or your colleagues might have, but — rather than subscribing to your cloaked, one-sided process — he will appear at a public Oversight and Accountability Committee hearing.”

He added: “A public proceeding would prevent selective leaks, manipulated transcripts, doctored exhibits, or one-sided press statements.”

Comer, meanwhile, declined the request on the grounds that the hearing would be “chaotic” due to Democrats’ behavior, notably taking issue with “little” Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL). Earlier this month, Comer blew up at Moskowitz during a committee hearing, shouting profanities and calling the Florida congressman a “smurf” after the Democrat mentioned a Daily Beast report contrasting Comer’s payments to his brother with that of the Biden family’s loan repayments.

During an interview with serial plagiarist Benny Johnson last month, though, Comer indicated that the impeachment probe was in its “downhill phase” and that he was looking to “wrap it up as soon as possible.” Additionally, he stated that anyone who was subpoenaed in the inquiry could be deposed or appear publicly.

“We know not only there were crimes, we know there are cover-ups,” he declared. “We have mountains of evidence and now we’re ready to bring ‘em in. We’re in the downhill phase of this investigation now because we have so many documents and we can bring these people in for depositions or committee hearings, whichever they choose, and we can ask these questions with evidence.”

Asked how the congressman could square his previous stance with his rejection of Hunter Biden’s offer to appear in a public hearing, an Oversight Committee spokesman told The Daily Beast that Comer’s subpoena was strictly for a behind-the-scenes deposition.

“The subpoena served to Hunter Biden specifically directed the President’s son to appear for a deposition on December 13,” the spokesman said. “Hunter Biden does not have the luxury to now dictate the terms of a lawful subpoena. Chairman Comer expects Hunter Biden to comply and is open to holding a hearing at a future date.”

Meanwhile, House Oversight Committee Ranking Member Jamie Raskin (D-MD) blasted Comer’s refusal to take up the president’s son on his offer, claiming it shows Republicans have no confidence in their own investigation.

“Let me get this straight,” the Democrat said in a statement. “After wailing and moaning for ten months about Hunter Biden and alluding to some vast unproven family conspiracy, after sending Hunter Biden a subpoena to appear and testify, Chairman Comer and the Oversight Republicans now reject his offer to appear before the full Committee and the eyes of the world and to answer any questions that they pose?”

Elsewhere in Lowell’s letter, the attorney accused Comer of using “closed-door sessions to manipulate, even distort the facts and misinform the public,” adding that the “empty investigation has gone on too long wasting too many better-used resources” and “should come to an end.”

While the House probe into the Biden family’s business dealings has been going on for months and investigators have obtained thousands of pages of financial records, the committee still has not found evidence that the president benefited from his son’s deals or was involved in a foreign influence peddling scheme. Additionally, Comer hasn’t been able to provide any proof of wrongdoing on the president’s part in the criminal probes of Hunter Biden.

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I’m glad to see another Trump lovin’ braniac join the feeble right’s fascist positions. But sorry to tell you that these low brow memes won’t get any traction here. Contrary to popular belief, this is not 4chan.

BTW-whoever photoshopped that pic needs to seriously upgrade their skillset.

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I’m still trying to figure out this… Do they think anyone cares if Hunter ends up in jail? Do they think him ending up in an orange jumpsuit somehow would convince me to wish I would have voted for donny? I’d currently vote for the orange jumpsuit itself before voting for donny. Hell I’d vote for Hunter Biden before I voted for donny. The bigger reality is I didn’t vote for Hunter. Lock him up for all I care. If there’s any real justice donny will need a cell mate at some point anyway. They’d be perfect for each other.


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…and I agree. If you’re going to photoshop do it well, or do it badly but with gusto and vision. Like this!
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Or go for laughs like this…

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Nice work, however Trump (in jail) not happening.

The real sleezeball that should be thrown in jail should be lil Hunter and his senile daddy, but with the Criminals in Charge it's not happening.

You libs are like Wile E. Coyote. You are always 1 step behind the RR.

Trump is playing 4 dimensional chess while you all play checkers...LOL!

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Playing chess? rofl Donny has never played chess because he can’t cheat at it. And really too much bandwidth needed for that chump to win at it.


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