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Zegura looks like he is crying.

I love that

Yes, you can selectively leave out facts that have a huge impact on the team if you so choose to. You can also leave out the fact that our starting QB was playing in the XFL the last time he took a snap. I mean that doesn't change that they are both facts and that has a huge negative impact on the talent the Browns have available to put on the field come game day. But sure, just leave that out and don't mention it.

thanks Memphis ... I was looking for that

I think this is the sentiment from a lot of analysts and sports journalists types I follow. And not just as it pertains to the Browns, but the NFL overall. I don't know how long ago, maybe it was heading into this year or last, but that their grading formula was changing/had changed. I think it was this year.

FWIW.

Yeah, the grades for the Browns defense against the 49ers, particularly the coverage grades, were a joke.



I don't know who this guy is, but he posted all of the Browns defensive grades.

those grades seem slightly poor lol

Love that Memphis - piss my pants laughing every year when you provide.

haha its just wild

I don't see the point, at this point. We all know Nick is out. He has been and will be until next season..it's not like missing a game or two. Add in we really can only speculate on what impact he would have on a game. We will win and lose with the team on the sideline. Not the team we could have had on the sideline.

Chubb has a history of what he can do on the field. So there are plenty of facts to consider that go far beyond speculation at play here. And omitting the fact that Chubb is out and we have an XFL QB starting at the position is what I feel to be a disingenuous look in regards to the conditions at play and what the expectation of the offense should be. I believe that anyone simply willing to discard those factors in what realistic expectations should be are not being objective.

I fully understand the saying "Next man up". But an XFL QB and losing the top RB in the league dictate that the next man up is not a level and practical expectation of similar results.

Yes, that is a joke. Delpit helped to shutdown one of the best TEs' in the game today.

I agree ... Delpit was integral in that game

Pit, I understand that. If we had Chubb we could have done this or that. I don't disagree, but we don't so there is no use speculating on what might have happened.

That is my opinion. If you and others want to dream about what might have happened rather than what is, fine.

Ford had 84 yards, himself, against a team allowing 80 yards rushing per game this season.

He actually kinda looked a bit Chubb-like. Chubb might get shut down early in a game, but he works it up, and in the fourth, he breaks off some big runs. That's exactly what Ford did.

I agree YTBF.

Ford is in a tough spot replacing Nick. I think he played well. He got the yards when the line allowed him to gain the yards.

he made a couple good runs late, when we needed them.

I agree.

No, he isn't a Nick Chubb. Not may are. He is Jerome Ford. We have to go with that....and who knows?????

That was fun to watch.

Dude was having the time of his life.

- Okoronkwo has been a great signing for us thus far and, for his price, has been quite the steal. Have him for two more years.

- One player not getting mentioned much is Alex Wright. He is not playing as much as others on the DL, but when he is in there, he is making an impact.

- Speaking of good signings, Mo Hurst is becoming one of my favs. Not only for his animated persona on the field, but he has been a tough interior lineman to contain.

That spin move was epic!

Ogbo is awesome!

PFF just dropped a new podcast titled NFL Week 6 Explaining The Browns Defensive Team Grades & Answering The Mailbag.

Clearly, they felt compelled to address it for one reason or another.

yeah because they weren't very accurate haha ... I take that stuff with a grain of salt of course tho

It's not that I want to speculate about what might have been. I'm simply one who feels it's an objective view to point out major contributing factors as to why things are the way they are.

But I get what you're saying.

J/C
Re: defensive grades

Purdy missing/not taking throws because of pressure and the weather doesn't necessarily mean the coverage was good. I haven't watched the all-22 yet to really have a sense one way or the other.

I'm fine with all the low PFF ratings they care to hand out... as long as we keep stifling opponents while shredding record books in all the categories that matter.

haha exactly .. keep us as the #1 defense and give all of the guys F's for all I care

Replay just started at 8 pm on NFL Network

I just wonder what the San Francisco offensive grades were for the game. Especially Purdy.

I watched basically the whole game again

We really outplayed them for like 50 of the 60 minutes ... we had Purdy in jail

Just watched the game again. Man, that was high drama! What a game! Got to see Ford do a backflip when we won. Impressive.