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in terms of Went or Matt Ryan, both of them were pretty bad in their last stints so I don't think their much of an option. Not sure if there is another backup worth mentioning besides Brissett because I'm not as well versed as some of you on other teams' rosters

There's a difference between caving and struggling to carry an additional burden in already non-ideal circumstances.

Well his play has depressed me.

The above commentary still stands, but the more and more I think about this, the more I'd be ok with acquiring him. Especially now with the Ford high ankle sprain. Those are tough to get over and tend to linger. And even if Ford can come back 100%, I like the duo of Henry and Ford (lolz) than Ford and Hunt. Sorry, Hunt is a local guy and fan favorite, but he just doesn't have it anymore. However, you lose carry over cap for whatever salary you have to pay for Henry, I believe. Not sure how the Browns feel about that.

Plus, maybe this acquisition keeps the defense a bit more honest with Henry on the field especially if we need to rely on PJ Walker a bit more.

is Henry a FA after this year? Meaning, we don't have to account for any money for him beyond week 18?

Henry is a FA at the end of the year.

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I think we should try and get a Vet QB here. We need someone with experience in case DW is out for a while. Maybe the Vet QB can do an Earl Morral imitation and get us to the Super Bowl!!!

then I wouldn't be as opposed to him

Probably wouldn't hurt to give Walker more than zero reps during the week instead of wasting them on Watson.

While that may be true to some extent, they have seen the quiz results. Nine games aren't test results. But they are an indication of how badly the test may grade out based on the quiz results.

Actually, the last time Ryan played well was with Kyle Shanahan. Matt might be a good fit in Stefanski's offense.

Why do people keep acting like we “let Jacoby” go. He left for a chance to start . Him staying at the time wasn’t and option in our control.

I agree. I thought it was crystal clear that he was a stand-in during the suspension year. I think this only became clearer when he showed out over the course of his games. Dude earned a starting job... which is why it's really weird to me that he finds himself backing up the likes of Sam Howell.


I'll say it again, because the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of bringing him back. Berry needs to get back on his "F them picks" bike one more time and make it happen.

1. Jacoby is a proven quantity in this offense throwing to most of these receivers. If we were to plot a graph of potential backup QB acquisitions in terms of cost v effectiveness, Jacoby would be waaaay out in the one corner.
2. If we really are a contending teams, one thing that contending teams need to do is spend some resources on a solid backup. We rolled the dice with DTR, and it didn't work. It happens and it's not the end of the world so long as you address it quickly. Jacoby wouldn't be a rental... he'd be our solid backup, and he'd continue to be a weapon on QB sneaks like he was last year.
3. In terms of our options, he'd be the best best, and probably one of the cheapest.

the issue is that was, what? 6-7 years ago?

The other issue is that while the offenses are similar... they are not the same. I tend to go to bat for Stefanski more than not... but he ain't Shanahan.

Some people say we "gave him the boot".

I agree about Brissett; he’s def the path of least resistance and proven to be able
To manage the team in this offense and he’s never had a good
Defense. But regardless if Watson comes back or not, it doesn’t make our need for a competent backup any less imo. We will know by the moves if the FO really believes we can contend this year or not

the fact that Brisset isn't on our roster right now means one of several things:
1. The Browns did inquire about him, but the asking price was too high
2. AB/KS are so arrogant to believe that we're good with resting the fate of our season in PJ Walker's hands
3. Watson is fully healed and ready to go the rest of the way

Regardless, IMO our season went down with Chubb, our current running game is non-sustainable for a champoinship.

Disagree with your run game analysis.

j/c...

Nice post except the player himself has come out and told us what is wrong.

A new update has finally emerged with specific details of the injury.

The bad news is that Watson is dealing with a strain in his subscapularis muscle. This isn't just a pain issue, but one that also causes weakness in the rotator cuff. And it's safe to say that rotator cuff strength matters a little bit when you're trying to throw a football in the tight windows afforded to passers at the NFL level.

Watson appeared to still have lingering affects when he took a hit on Sunday. He grabbed his right shoulder after being hit, had difficulty lifting his right arm, he was able to jog off the field and was holding his right arm and did not attempt a pass on the sideline.

Watson confirmed his shoulder injury is a rotator cuff issue, a more significant ailment than the simple contusion that most believed was the problem.

Watson had another MRI done on the shoulder on Monday showing no further damage - the question is why if the shoulder wasn't an issue on Sunday?

Last Friday, Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com reported that sources told her Watson may miss multiple more weeks.

Though you arer correct that "Fans don't know about his current condition," it would be safe to say that it is not a deep contusion as previously reported.

With each passing day, it looks more and more like Mayfield 2.0 going on in Berea.

Nobody said that Baker the player was relevant. The handling of the QB injuries by Stefanski and the Browns is relevant and Watson's mirrors the mishandling of Mayfield's injury. As of today, Watson is no more ready to play than he was on September 25th. That's 4-weeks ago now and he should have been put on IR in retrospect. That said though, the commonalities between the way the injuries have been handled is eerily similar. Those professionals at the highest level in sports medicine did and continue to clear the players for play. Both players had and have had their injuries downplayed as to the seriousness and the effect it had/has on their ability to play at an appropriate level. Live practice throws are not live game throws, using that as the baseline and then ignoring the actual play results is an injustice to the fans and the player. Neither player should have been on the field even though they both said they were ready and medically cleared but clearly not close to being able to perform to the level of play needed. Clearly you don't see the similarities but IMHO, Mayfield 2.0 is in full swing in Berea. The names may have changed but the Browns and Stefanski's actions are so similar it's scary.

You should listen to Bernie Kosar's "analysis" of his similar compared to how DW's is. I watched him on The Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show explain how DW's shoulder injury could have been misdiagnosed and his availability from day to day been difficult to determine. He also described some details of that injury would explain Dw's first dump off pass to Ford being so off target. It made a lot of sense. Watson's first 5 passes convinced me he wasn't ready, but Bernie explained why the game time decision is not black and white. But maybe Bernie is just a shill for the Browns coaches and FO.

I watched that. Bernie's analysis made a lot of sense. I walked away thinking we better find a capable backup... pronto.

Man, DW is obviously not close to ready. Unless all of our eyes are lying to us. This isn't complicated.

I forgot that we didn't see him play last week. We didn't see the results of that and we didn't see him not be able to continue the first time he hit the turf. I also had no idea you needed to be a doctor to see those things.

So are you saying you didn't witness those five passes? He wasn't "taken out" of the game. He was injured to the point he could not continue and had to leave the game. Maybe there was a later point where he could have gone back into the game. But at the point he left the game he couldn't even raise his arm much less play QB. Were we watching the same game?

They have since confirmed the injury is worse than they first knew as well.

There have been rumors about a CFL QB Zach Collaros, he is 35, has won 2 grey cups as a starter, and 1 as a back-up. He currently plays for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers and is having a really good season. He is from Steubenville, Ohio. CFL players can opt out of their CFL contracts for a NFL deal. Don’t get me wrong I’m not advocating for him, but it would so Browns to sign a CFL player. He had a cup of coffee with TB last year.

This is his wiki page:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Collaros