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Agathe Christie with the Case of the Unknown QB.

Sweet Baby Jesus.

Murray owns us for some reason.

Sweet Baby Jesus.

The cynic in me is getting some week of Indy vibes.

hello darkness, my old friend

Yeah, me too a little.

If only he was good enough to play while implementing a similar game plan we used for Seattle. Use a healthier Ford a ton sprinkled in with Hunt and Strong. Use that run game to set up some PA for shorter routes. Implement the screen game frequently. Call some creative plays Stefanski has a knack for. There is always the risk of further injury but I guess no one knows how much he is healed at this point in time.

Clearly, I'm trying to be as optimistic, but it might be best to sit him again.

why do I get the feeling there is a PR campaign to temper people's expectations on when he'll be back??

I think this has always been the case since the realization that he couldn't go vs SF ... it's like an airline dragging you out with delays instead of just saying "The plane won't take off today everyone"

Sweet Baby Jesus.

we'll see what happens then

Video of Watson shaking his injured shoulder after a throw yesterday....

So basically Watson is out for the foreseeable future.

The defense seems to be caving under the pressure of having to carry the team.

And we are starting Walker over DTR.

Man, can't wait for Sunday!

Because there is a PR campaign going on that is trying to temper people's expectations on when he'll be back.

There is zero evidence that would suggest DTR would be a better option. Or even as good.

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

The only way we'll see "evidence" is if they let him play.

Unfortunately, we have a growing supply of evidence that would seem to suggest that Walker isn't a good option. I suppose another bad outing against a bad Arizona team could put the nail in the coffin.

There is something to say for "stability" and time on task, but I'd have rather stuck with DTR in the first place as he had had more time in the system. I think we pulled the plug on him too soon. We never gave him an opportunity to bounce back. I think leaving him to stew on his first bad outing after short notice is more detrimental than giving him opportunities to learn and grow even with the risk of struggles.

Belief can have a profound positive effect upon people. The appearance of a lack of belief can have a deleterious effect.

SBJ

Only in Cleveland can there be a QB controversy with 2nd and 3rd stringers. SMH!!

There have been similar controversies recently with the 49ers and Jets just off the top of my head. Raiders, too.

They did let him play. The results were horrendous. If someone is going to complain that a different QB should be starting, they should be able to make a case why that is the better option. None of your word play will change that.

Side Note: Fall is BEAUTIFUL in Cleveland. Just look at that background.

Could be but I'd like to think we have everyone beat when it comes to futility

This makes it official. He's playing.

j/c...

I have a baseball background. Shane Bieber lost 2+ months of the season this year to elbow inflammation.

The deal is elbows and shoulders can be problematic for people who throw. There is no real timetable for when those heal up. The historical data is pretty wide ranging. It just happens when it happens.

I’d start P.J. this week -actually if we started DTR I wouldn’t be upset - and give DW another week, unless he’s ready NOW. Who knows. They’re all doing a ‘good job’

Since it’s 1-7 Zona, play one of of the backups, whichever one will turn it over less.

Murray is 3-0 against the browns and will probably be 4-0 against them after Sunday. Trap game foe browns. The cardinals are 3rs in nfl in rushing and browns run defense is very overrated. Cards will win this one easier than many would think. They almost beat the ravens last week.

Quite possible. Honestly, over the years I never feel comfortable with this team going into a game. I expect the worse and hope for the best. A loss doesn't hurt so much that way and a win is a pleasant surprise.

Clayton Tune will start tomorrow

And our defense will have him singing like a soprano by halftime.

haha love it