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The Ravens have the best run defense in the league. We do not have a starting caliber OT available for this game. I see the beat down coming. Then Watson will get beat to death, and not play against the Steelers. Then the drop to the bottom of the division will be complete

Nobody is a fortune teller. The closest to that would be the odds makers. Then of course there's the fact that their O put up 28 points against the Browns D just five weeks ago. Nobody who gives their opinions on here claim to be fortune tellers. I think thou doth protest too much.

I give us a 5% chance of winning if Baltimore scores more than 21. Our OL is a trainwreck and we are on our 5th string tackle.



the defense has to keep it close and we gotta keep DW from ending up on IR.

I did. He has some pretty strong opinions. Some of them are certainly not those that I share and I see some of them as over the top. But it is what it is.

In the first Ravens game , the ravens exposed that while the Browns D is keyne to stop a screen, and attack the @uarterback, that the weakness of the Browns D or pass D was a @uick out breaking slant route, inside headed toward the sideline about nine to twelve yards deep, that the Browns who have been crowding the line of scrimmage don't have anyone there if it is thrown early enough.

Balt seemed to do that a lot with success.

Ehh you don't have to beat them until the final play of the game, all you have to do is hang around with them and enjoy knocking them around until the 4th @uarter.

It wouldn't be super great to get a big lead early, because the opponent is at home and if you get a big lead, then the opponent knows exactly how much they have to do to come back in the game,
no, what you want to do is, hit em, knock em, stay within a couple scores of them, get all the points you can, but
when the 4th @uarter comes, that's when you dominate them, and get your big scores leaving no time for them to come back.

beat em on the last play of the game. If they go up seventeen early, no worries, seventeen is that limit.

The biggest challenge is Watson is a slow processor. He's a backyard football QB. This game needs to be drop back, plant, throw. The short passing game becomes your running game. Watson is not capable of executing that type of game plan. He needs a bunch of long developing, broken plays to get going and play well. That's likely not happening against the Ravens.

Having said that, I have a good feeling about the game. I can't put my finger on why. There's a lot that goes on during the week that the fans are not privy to. Leading up to the SF game they said the defense was very, very, locked in. Watching the pressers this week I've gotten that feeling they are locked in.

Browns win and are the talk of the sports world this week.

My biggest concern is that the Browns are in a terrible position at both OT positions against a great Ravens D. They are first against the run so their DL isn't leaving holes to run in. When you combine that with them having Roquan Smith at LB'er it makes this a very difficult match up. I'm not saying the Browns "can't win". I'm saying the odds certainly aren't in their favor. I understand what you're saying about being "in the zone". But neither the Titans nor the Cardinals are in the same category as the Ravens in terms of D. I believe a QB needs at least some time in the pocket or some sense of security to get in a zone. I'm not sure under the current conditions that the Ravens will be allowing him the time to do so.

Yeah.

other teams do this, every year, with scores of @uarterbacks, multiples of 20 @bs, over many years, but the Browns, not since Testaverde was the caller, ..maybe Garcia did a little in 04? could we count on that as a legitimate regular part of the offense.

If the Browns can get consistent pressure with their front of their defense then they can stay in the game.

And if the Browns offense can do things well by not trying to do what we all know won't work, then they can hang around in this game.
and.
Beat em on the last play of the game.

No fortune teller. I don't have anything figured out. I actually think about this game about exactly like you are saying. My post was in a minute of instant despair, after reading we will not have either starting Tackle. I am a half full thinker in reality. It's just we can never go into these games full strength. I don't know if the curse is real, but sometimes it sure feels like it

Oh, the CURSE is REAL.

The Ravens haven't been healthy in like three years. And they still find ways to beat us.

They can beat us even if we are fully healthy. But here's the thing...the defense is pretty much completely healthy and Watson is healthy. That should be enough. If not, I know the injury excuse will come up but I'm not buying it. It's excuse making.

Fist of all Lamar is 2 wins no losses against deshaun teams.
They have a dynasty level defense we have statistically a good defense.
Ravens clearly better offense
Baltimore wins 20 to 14

And Clowney doing things we apparently didn't let him do. Looks like his beef about being the edge setter opposite Myles had merit.

Joe Woods.

I truly hope not, but I'm expecting that we will be in last place by the end of the day. All the other AFC North teams should win today....

I sadly feel the exact same way. I'd feel a lot more confident with a healthy Watson, Chubb, Conklin, and even Wills out there...I just can't see us keeping pace with Baltimore...we are just too stagnant on offense, and I feel they will will shadow Coop and slide coverage on Njoku...I think Nick Harris is going to have a poor showing...and Watson is going to have a lot of issues today. I'd feel much better if we end up having two pick 6's lol....but highly unlikely.

Now THAT I would love to see.

j/c

Its funny how the Chubb injury isn't discussed on a national level when people talk about our team ... it's like people forget that our best player is gone

I think that's because injuries happen to every team. If they spent their time talking about all the great players every team had that were injured, there wouldn't be time to talk about anything else. The NFL is a passing league. Everything is QB centric. Supposedly that's what was supposed happen when the Browns traded for watson. I think the media, as well as some of us are more focused on why as of now that hasn't happened. I mean Chubb isn't the 230 million dollar man. Watson is.

Facts sometimes seem inconvenient to you.

Facts?? They don't talk about Chubb because Watson got paid 230M??

Try reading it a little slower. It's a passing league. It's a QB centric league. You must have missed that part. The media focuses on the QB position. Why? because they make the big bucks and take up the biggest portion of the salary cap of any position in the league.

Most teams with quality QB's have found a way to move the ball on the ground with RB's of much lesser talent. When defenses must focus on stopping the pass it opens up opportunities in the running game. When the browns signed watson to the highest guaranteed contract in NFL history the focus went to watson and if he would live up to that contract. Of course you already know these things but never let facts get in the way of your desire to ignore them.

There's also the fact that the Browns have the fourth most rushing yards in the league. If the Browns were ranked low in rushing yards that would be a factor that might bring more attention to the Chubb injury by the media.

If you think about it, If the league were fixed, and they were sure the Browns wouldn't lose 2 in a row,
then
making it so the Browns win today and not next week, would hurt the Browns royally.

In case anyone else has noticed that none of the Browns wins have moved them up in the standings this year.

I said we would lose by 6 in a close game...You call that crow material? I'll take it fried.

PS: Are you the local Mall Cop?

We need to drop the eating crow references. Don’t act like turkeys!l, we bested the Ravens!

Wonder if they flex us next week to Sunday night.
The scheduled game is Denver/Vikes