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well, here goes nothing

Time to give him his shot. I don't think putting him in against the ravens on short notice was the ideal way to start a rookie.

They must feel a loss is acceptable.

Oh. Watson is out for the seaon. @$%^$#^$%^$%^$%!!@#

I do feel bad for Stefanski. Truthfully he's coached his butt off this year and even when I disagree with some stuff (not running it vs Seattle), he's done a nice job. He keeps being handed issues with injuries (and MAJOR issues at that)

hopefully we get more glimpses of the preseason DTR and not the Baltimore DTR.. I don't really agree with letting him start again against a team known for destroying rookie QB's, I mean come on. He needs a chance for success or you'll ruin him forever

the issue is that Walker is really bad ... turnover machine

Now if we could just get those players that are working in fast food, insurance and sitting on the couch he played against in preseason to be playing on Sunday.....

He did well against some starters in preseason

I'll say one thing. Dude is a damn magician when he's backed against the wall like this. We just beat the Ravens and hung 33 on them with our #4 and 5 OTs.

True, but isn't that DTR's MO coming out of college as well (can be careless with the ball)?

lol yeah, its not good

He never appeared on the field while playing an opponents first string players. It is what it is. People based their glowing opinion of him based on playing against mostly third string players and in clean up time against players fighting to make NFL rosters. Many of which are no longer in the NFL. That's nowhere close to the talent he will be facing in NFL games. I hope for the best but it is what it is. I suggest you check out the success rate of 5th round rookie NFL QB draft picks as a form of reference.

It's not his fault that he's in this position. A project QB forced into battle on the front line. That situation was created by people with a much higher salary than he makes.

It reallyl wasn;t fair to DTR on his previous start vs Baltimore. Little practice, not even knowing he was playing until about 3 hours before teh game. Let;s see how 3 days of reps helps.

I hope for his sake and the team's that he at least manages it weel and keeps TOs down.

No it wasn’t. If nothing else we now know the situation with DW we know who we’re starting and we can plan accordingly. I don’t like what’s happening I’m aggravated over it but we can move on with some certainty. Let’s all hope for the best 🙂

All of our QBs have been terrible about it this year, so it's probably moot. For as well as DW did this past Sunday, he DID throw as many TDs for them as Lamar, and that was like the 4th game this year where our QBs scored for the other team, and in like three of them it was in the 1st Qtr.

If DTR can simply avoid putting points on the board for the other team, he'll be fine.

the one caveat ... there's a pretty good chance we aren't having a game winning drive against a good team from here on out

until this past week, that chance was already the case, so not much has changed.

Where is this narrative coming from?

He threw 88 tds against 36 ints over his college career.

Everyone is pining for Dobbs who was a 4th round pick. In his first preseason he played against guys who are in insurance, grocery baggers, car salesman...you know the same criticism against DTR.

This place is bonkers.

I hear you. I was personally hoping that we started Walker this week and kept the O game plan conservative. Then let DTR cut his teeth in later, knowing he's the guy at the very beginning of game planning for the Broncos. I guess we'll see, though.

Dobbs has NFL experience. Dobbs isn't a fifth round rookie. Dobbs came into Minnesota with five days under his belt with never seeing their playbook before, played quite well leading the Vikings to a win. throwing for 20-30 and 2 td's with no interceptions. After being there for 13 days he led them to another victory throwing for 20-34 with 1 td and no interceptions.


Your comparison is bonkers.

I think you're reading too much into my statement. I was trying to recall what I had read about him when he was drafted. The criticism that he occasionally makes poor decisions with the football is out there, but isn't as consistent across all the different scouting reports.

I was pining for Brissett at the trade deadline, but that time has passed.

Well, let's take about 17% to 24% off the hyperbole and give the full picture: Yes, he did all of that, but it was against the Saints and the Falcons. Neither team is good. The Saints are 5-5, but it's not a good 5-5, and the Falcons just suck. Dobbs was able to step right into that offense because of his time here in this offense. It's essentially the same O. It's a very small sample size against bad to mediocre teams. Let him play a full fiscal month and then revisit things before actually going along with the stuff the media is going gaga over.

Well let's be somewhat realistic. One has years of NFL experience. One is a fifth round rookie. That's fine. Let's give the both a full month and compare. We both know that a fifth round rookie QB pick is a pure project. You may find that diamond in the rough like Purdy. But that's a very rare exception. The odds dictate that given the situation this won't end well. Is it possible? Yes it is. Is it highly unlikely? Yes it is.

at this point, we are hoping that DTR can limit his mistakes to the point that we can win 4 games and squeak into the wildcard playoffs

the 4 games we can win? I'd say we have to split the west coast trip, beat the Bears and Jets ... and then whichever one other game we can steal

Browns -1

Over/Under 33.5

oh, no doubt... if you noticed, I didn't mention DTR or his likelihood of success at all. I was just tempering the lofty picture being painted of Dobbs and what he accomplished. He came in and just managed to manage not screwing it up against weaker competition, that's all.

If DTR can do similar and manage to just manage the game and NOT put points on the board for the other team, for once, then he's gonna be alright. Doesn't mean he'll be good, but it means he won't be killing us, and with our defense, that's good enough.

I don't know about that. If one looks at just the stat lines one may draw that conclusion. But if one actually watched his play in those two games they would draw a totally different conclusion. He created time in the pocket and had great pocket awareness and scrambled well when he needed to. In the game against the Falcons he was the Vikings leading rusher. Rushing 7 times for 66 yards and a TD. Here's a look at some of his highlights from the Saints game...



I think he did quite a bit more than "came in and just managed to manage not screwing it up."

Honestly Peen, putting him up against the Steelers isn't a whole lot better.

Having said that, there isn't a good answer. Maybe getting Colt McCoy would be a good idea..He's still sitting out. Naa,, Never mind... LOL

Why not, right?

Purdy did it. DTR can do it.

We just need to give him favorable conditions and keep him upright.

Any word on our injured OT's?

DTR can't be worse than he was last time ... he was HORRENDOUS last time. He had zero prep time and we couldn't adjust the gameplan at all

I just hope he's more poised and under control

Steelers have a lot of injuries to their D. They lost a starting ILB the week before and his backup last week vs the Packers. And the Steelers still have Matt Canada and Pickett on offense. I think this will be a very close game. I think the Steelers are the worst 6-3 team ever.

The reverse to that statement makes it seem like ammunition for "if we dont make the playoffs" after this year's injuries ALL the criticism is valid.

Stef's been decent, I'm not sure who is better that wants this job (not going to rehash arians & shanahan) ... yes he is getting a bum deal this year doesn't change the fact it is the N(ot) F(or) L(ong)

no one is safe ever