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Originally Posted by The Collector
Steelers have Cincinatti, Seattle, and Baltimore left.

With the way they're playing I could easily see them go 0-3, I have a feeling tomlin is still going to end up dragging them to 9-8 though..
The Rules are $^#^"ED messed UP.

HOW DO YOU MIss the Playoffs with the same RECORD, TO A TEAM YOU BEAT HEAD TO HEAD????
B/c of the AFC North, it can happen,

If there is a five way tie at ten and seven between the Pitt, Cincy, Cleveland, Indy, and Denver,
assuming KC and Jax win their div. and if you even take Buffalo and Houston out of the mix,
the wild card teams would be
Pitt
Indy
and Denver, B/c Pitt would be 2nd place in the afc north, with a five and one div record , best Cleveland can do is 4 and 2, best cincy can do is 3 and 3 or it doesn't matter with their conf. record...

But,
in that case, B/C it would still be a 3 way tie at ten and seven every time the filled the next wild card spot, and between clubs from different divisions

then Cincy and Cleveland would be removed from consideration
to Indianapolis,
EVEN THOUGH THEY BOTH BEAT INDY, and the very next tie breaker would be to remove Indy for that very reason,

but before they get there, they'd remove both
Cincy and Cleveland , and why?

B/c Indy would be in 2nd place in the AFC south, compared to Cincy and Cleveland being in 3rd or 4th place in the AFC North

Nightmare, but very real possibility,
and
AND,

Knowing this ^, Baltimore, can Choose to Lose against Pitt in the Final game to allow a lesser team Pitt, In, to be their opponent, and kick Cleveland and Cincy out.

Not entirely impossible,
you have to win Eleven to make the Playoffs

You have to Win Eleven or sit at home and wonder what happened on how you beat Indy, and Jax, and they could both be in the playoffs at Ten and seven,

And you are not but you are also Ten and seven.

The RULEs ARE sO Messed UP, YOU CAN ONLY GET IN IF YOU REMAIN 2ND OR BETTER IN THE AFC NORTH.

or have a half game lead in the record against EVERYBODY else

simply the AFC north teams are being discriminated against b/c they don't have two bottom feeder teams in their div. like the afc east,
afc west and afc south do.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-tie-breaking-procedures/

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Steelers have absolutely no chance anymore this season. Three just horrible games that they needed to win. There needs to be some serious changes in the off-season. There is talent on the team, but something is very wrong.
I think a lot of Steeler fans that I know took Big Ben for granted ... us as Browns fans have gone decades without a FQB and looked on with envy. What you are experiencing the past two seasons is what happens when you don't have a good QB: margins for error are smaller, everyone turns on each other, winnable games slip away, etc

very true words. Pickett is definitely not the answer and Trubisky is even worse.


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I love Pickett and think the Steelers should sign him to a lifetime contract.

I’ve thought for years that Tomlin rode Ben’s coat tails. Everyone gushed over his ‘winning culture’, his ‘stiller way’, his general genius… Its easy to look good with a great QB. Even with a great QB and a great D Tomlin only got one Super Bowl. In my mind that was highly underachieving.
I love watching it all crumble.
Sign Tomlin to an extension. He’s what I thought he was.


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steelers record with Matt Canada: 6-4
steelers record without Matt Canada: 1-3


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According to playoffstatus or picture and status .com no AFC team has even a wild card spot locked up.
well b/c of the afc north,
how could the current number one afc seed I0 and 3 Ravens miss the playoffs altogether,
simple,
in the AFC North, to break the ties, if they lose out, and Pitt wins out, and and if there is an eight or nine or ten way tie in the AFC at Ten and seven,
If the AFC all finish at ten and seven
Pitt would have a five and one div record
Cleveland would have a 4 and 2 or 3 and 3, div record depending on week eighteen,
Cincy would have no better than a 2 and 4 div record b/c they lost to Cleveland, Pitt, and twice to Baltimore already,
but
If Cleveland wins Eleven
and Baltimore and Pitt and Cincy are tied with a ton of others at ten and seven,
then Pitt,
yeah the suck sorry Pitt team would be in 2nd place in the afc North because of a five and one div record, and Balt. would be removed from consideration of all wild card spots for being in 3rd or 4th place of the AFC North,
as long as, when they go to fill that next wild card spot

there are still 3 or more teams tied in record from different divisions

If there were a twelve way tie at Ten and seven among teams in the afc,
before they even look at head to head or any other record,
they remove all but only those teams closest to first place, in their OWN respective divisions.
They would only look at the teams in 2nd place, or better, in their own AFC North, AFC south, AFC West, or AFC East divisions respectively.

If you win, Eleven, you can probably get by that, but, today is probably Another playoff game.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-tie-breaking-procedures/

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They didn't like Matt Canada so maybe they should try Ron Mexico?


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Amen, it isn't nice, darn, I love the Steelers in LAST PLACE- SWEET. And, they are hurting at QB-----lots of bitching from their players- the vaulted Steeler way- if they have a losing record for the year, that would be the cherry. GO BROWNS!!!!


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Gotta give it to Baker Mayfield. He’s absolutely balling in Tampa Bay, and that’s a great thing to see.


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Buffalo is scary. They're going to be a dangerous team in the playoffs


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Are they going to let ten afc teams into the playoffs?
Who is out?

...

Baker Mayfield had a perfect One hundred fifty eight+ passer rating,
4 touchdowns
Three hundred eighty one yards
and only 6 incompletions in what is being labeled a career day, <whatever.
for T bay on the road at Green Bay today.
and they won 34 to 20 , only seven and seven on the year but lead their div. in the NFC

Oh well, his days may not be as numbered as many would hope. These grapes are sour.


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the Bills just stomped Dallas


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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
Buffalo is scary. They're going to be a dangerous team in the playoffs

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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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If Jax can beat the Rats tonight, we would be 1 game out of the AFC North lead.

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Buffalo has to make the playoffs before they can be dangerous in the playoffs.

Right now they are 10th in the AFC playoff picture, 1 game ahead of Pittsburgh. .


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Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
Buffalo has to make the playoffs before they can be dangerous in the playoffs.

Right now they are 10th in the AFC playoff picture, 1 game ahead of Pittsburgh. .

Their next 2 games are against the Chargers and Patriots though. They finish at Miami.


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Yeah, I think Buffalo should get in now. They'll never lose to the Chargers minus Herbert or Pats at home.


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Wow how stupid is Lawrence


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Yeah, I think Buffalo should get in now. They'll never lose to the Chargers minus Herbert or Pats at home.

Yep, we better keep winning.

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If I had to guess right now, I'd say:

1. Baltimore
2. Miami
3. Kansas City
4. Jacksonville
5. Cleveland
6. Buffalo
7. Houston


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Jags are still alive in this one.

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The Jags have such a strange, explosive offense. They did the same against us .. hibernate for stretches and then wake up


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Jags are still alive in this one.
This didn't age well



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reading the tea leaves, the 5 seed seems most likely ... and we would face whoever wins the AFCS race (Jags, Colts, or Texans)

we could do worse than that scenario IMO


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Ravens RB Keaton Mitchell likely out for season



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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
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Steelers have absolutely no chance anymore this season. Three just horrible games that they needed to win. There needs to be some serious changes in the off-season. There is talent on the team, but something is very wrong.
I think a lot of Steeler fans that I know took Big Ben for granted ... us as Browns fans have gone decades without a FQB and looked on with envy. What you are experiencing the past two seasons is what happens when you don't have a good QB: margins for error are smaller, everyone turns on each other, winnable games slip away, etc

Big Ben, but also Tomlin.

I thought that guy was a joke when he took over with that deer-in-headlights look he had/has during press conferences. Looking back, he's a prototypical field-general type coach.


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One game at a time, boyz and girlz, one game at a time. Onto Houston...

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Yep. It will all be ugly from here on out, unless we somehow get healthier. I think we need one or two more wins to secure that wild card spot. After that, I don’t care if we play scrubs until the playoff games start.

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Originally Posted by Swish
Gotta give it to Baker Mayfield. He’s absolutely balling in Tampa Bay, and that’s a great thing to see.

I was just wondering the other day why Swish doesn't post as much as he used to

Miss your inputs , always enjoyed your thoughts on things

This post makes me think, you are a Baker and Buccuneer s fan and follow them more

One thing is the division, I know you want Baker to be succesful.

But Baker doesn't have the Browns in the 5th spot in the AFC Play Offs spot

'm rooting for the Browns, not Baker

Players come and go, But remember 1997

So I don't care about what Bker is doing

I'm enjoying what Flacco and the Browns team is doing

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Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
Originally Posted by Swish
Gotta give it to Baker Mayfield. He’s absolutely balling in Tampa Bay, and that’s a great thing to see.

I was just wondering the other day why Swish doesn't post as much as he used to

Miss your inputs , always enjoyed your thoughts on things

This post makes me think, you are a Baker and Buccuneer s fan and follow them more

One thing is the division, I know you want Baker to be succesful.

But Baker doesn't have the Browns in the 5th spot in the AFC Play Offs spot

'm rooting for the Browns, not Baker

Players come and go, But remember 1997

So I don't care about what Bker is doing

I'm enjoying what Flacco and the Browns team is doing

This is the Other Games thread.

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Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
Originally Posted by Swish
Gotta give it to Baker Mayfield. He’s absolutely balling in Tampa Bay, and that’s a great thing to see.

I was just wondering the other day why Swish doesn't post as much as he used to

Miss your inputs , always enjoyed your thoughts on things

This post makes me think, you are a Baker and Buccuneer s fan and follow them more

One thing is the division, I know you want Baker to be succesful.

But Baker doesn't have the Browns in the 5th spot in the AFC Play Offs spot

'm rooting for the Browns, not Baker

Players come and go, But remember 1997

So I don't care about what Bker is doing

I'm enjoying what Flacco and the Browns team is doing

Next to impossible, but imagine a scenario where Flacco and Baker take their respective teams to the SB this year. I SO want that.

And while we’re talking about Baker, I bet the panther fans are salty this year.

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Seattle has hung tough here, but It looks like Philly will pull away


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