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Three weeks ago we faced the Texans. The result was Flacco and Cooper ate them up.

That game was of course without Stroud who is their best player. However, Stroud does not play defense.

Flacco has won seven road playoff games, tying him with Tom Brady for the most in league history.

Flacco was in Houston three weeks ago.

The Texans just faced the Colts in a "do or die" game that went to the wire. They now are on a short week playing Saturday.

The Browns last played their starters Dec 30. So, 14 days of rest and preparation. The season is long and exhausting. Players are all hurting. The emotions of the game can carry you for a while. However, the second half the fresh team has an advantage.

The Browns defense depends upon qb pressure.

The Texans lost two left guards in Kendrick Green and Kenyon Green, a third left guard in Tytus Howard (who started the season at right tackle), and a solid starting center in Jarrett Patterson. Tunsil is one of the best tackles in the league.

We pressure the quarterback and count on our corners to cover. Nico Collins ripped the Colts for 9 catches and 195 yds. The rest of the receivers got 59 yards combined.

Schwartz will plan to cover Collins.

In rushing the Browns are 6th the Texans 30th.

In total defense Browns are Number One. The Texans are 14th.

If we play to our ability we have advantages in this game.

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Texans have been VERY good at taking the ball away from offenses. Our offense hasn't been great at hanging onto the ball.

If there is a path to a win for the Texans, it's that.


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While it may not matter, often times you can get a clue of how a team will perform in the playoffs based on their latest performances. I don't think you can really add the games Houston played before Stroud came back, but in their last game, with Stroud starting, the Colts held the Texans to 23 points. The Browns certainly have a better D than the Colts.

The last two games the Browns played at full strength they scored 36 and 37 points respectively. That 36 point game was against that Texans D.


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I wouldn't be surprised to see the Texans try to attack aggressively on their first drive, just like they did against the Colts.


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Those guards they've lost... is that since they played us???? If so, our DTs are gonna FEAST.


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Browns played on 12/28 not 12/30


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I want to win so bad.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
I want to win so bad.



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Not an endorsement of PJ, and I’m not really surprised.


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I don't know when they lost those guys.

Just read the article and copied it.

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There is zero chance PJ is here next season.

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I don't know when they lost those guys.

Just read the article and copied it.

I decided to go digging, those were before we played them the first time, so we'll be facing the same OLine as last time.
Since we played, they have also lost Safety Jimmie Ward to IR. So, their inability to cover Cooper should continue... or, more specifically, Cooper's ability to beat their zone should continue. Expect him and Chief to have big games.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/HOU/houston-texans/injuries/
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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If I'm correct and admittedly not sure I am but I believe the texans will have thier best two pass rushers back. They didn't play against us first game


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Originally Posted by bonefish

Thanks. I think they will both end up playing. Our tackles are going to some help feom some chip blocking from our tight ends


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I didn’t realize their D was #1 against the run. Looks like we’re going to lean on the pass again, and we’re going to have to plan to get rid of the ball quick… again. I like hearing that CJ struggled against the better D’s they faced. I imagine we’re going to be blitzing frequently. I’m excited!

I usually don’t quibble about this sort of stuff but I do hate when they do these pre game matchup vids and it’s pretty clear they’re relaying the info from one sides perspective. It’s mostly what the Texans have to do to win. Doesn’t really matter of course but annoying.




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Stroud will get pressured. That is part of our game plan.

We will need good coverage from our db's in total. However, Nico Collins will get more attention.

At this point you cannot change who you are. We played them 3 weeks ago. Flacco will recognize quickly what changes they will try after getting torched. They are a zone based defense. They may mix some coverages but they will not go away from who they are.

Schwartz will have some tricks ready based on down and distance.

Our strength right now on offense is throwing the ball to Cooper, Njoku, and Moore. Kevin will mix in some screens. We will throw it to Ford. We will run enough to keep them honest.

Play for the lead and then play to move the chains.

IMO our strengths will show up. Defense and Flacco.

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The regular season is done

Start of a play-off run with

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j/c...

CJ Stroud struggles vs man coverage. The Browns excel in man coverage. Just another reason to like this match-up for the Browns. I expect Schwartz to play man a great deal on Saturday.


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CJ Stroud struggles vs man coverage. The Browns excel in man coverage. Just another reason to like this match-up for the Browns. I expect Schwartz to play man a great deal on Saturday.



I agree but if ward doesn't play and let's be honest judging by his past history of injuries he very well may not, then we will probably have to play more zone. I still think we can win this game though


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At some point in looking at this match-up it comes down to who is the better team?

I have listened to the tv talking heads. Watched the youtubers. Read the articles and watched the previews.

I am trying to be as objective as possible.

IMO we are the better team. Period. That does not mean that Houston cannot win. Every team in the playoffs has a chance.

As long as we do not "have a bad game" we will win. Having a bad game means critical mistakes. They can happen on a snap. Penalty that costs a score. Turnover that leads to a touchdown. Costly mistakes.

We have a better defense. We have more experience at key positions. IMO we have more "top end" talented players. Players that can make a difference in big games.

A team is offense, defense, and special teams one through fifty-three. We are the better team.

Let's go out there and win this game.


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What an absolute desperate clown.


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Other than your comment "desperate clown." Whatever it was you posted is not there?


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It's a Twitter post. It's showing up fine for me.


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The Twitter handshake has been pretty suspect on this site lately.

It's Hue Jackson jumping on the Browns bandwagon and kissing everyone's a$$ in the building. I think it may actually be a well engineered deep fake.


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I wonder if there are definitive and different stages of Battered Browns Syndrome?

I've gone from mild anxiety before every game - still watching each game and enjoying it but an underlying feeling that events/results will conspire to keep us out of the playoffs.... To feeling good that we'd make the post season, but to talk about potential and opponents and who we might meet and favorable matchups would somehow condemn us..... To now feeling uber positive about beating HOU but somehow the fact that I think we will win will mean that something catastrophic will/might prevent that from happening. Maybe it's all the same thing ... but it feels I'm making progress.


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Mind games with yourself.

I feel really good about this game. Then I think if I feel that way and it goes poorly. I don't want to feel rotten.

I do think we are the better team. There are numerous reasons why I think we will win. But in the back of your head you know how cruel football can be.

For sure I will be nervous when toe meets leather. I want this game badly.

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I feel this the game the injuries catch up to us. Houston got some big, game changing pieces back on both sides of the ball and we somehow got less healthy despite having almost two weeks and on the road. I think we are going to struggle on both sides. Would love a repeat of last game but that game meant nothing given whom they were missing.


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Playoffs are about match-ups.

The Texans with Stroud struggles against man coverage. Man coverage is the Browns strength.

The Browns strength on offense is passing the ball. The reason is Flacco's experience. He can read a defense. The Texans play zone. Cooper, Njoku and Moore will find openings.

Myles Garrett leads a defense that pressures the quarterback. Stroud is a rookie. His numbers drop dramatically under pressure. The Browns get to the qb faster than any team 1.9 sec. Schwartz will bring pressure and do it in a number of different ways to confuse the rookie.

The defense of the Texans is not on the same level as the Browns. We will find ways to score.

The Texans are a young team that is surprised to have come so far. They have been in a win or out situation for weeks. They are now faced with a short week after a must win. The Browns are rested and prepared.

The Browns are the more talented team. They have more top end experienced talent.

A bad game with critical mistakes is the only way the Browns can lose this game. If we play a clean game. We will win.

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We just destroyed this team and we had no kickers. They returned a kick for a TD.

The Texans schedule was 30th in difficulty. Last year the Texans won 3 games. They have had a great year. It ends today.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

The Browns came into this season with lofty expectations. It was derailed by injury to their core talent.

They have overcome injury. They have played a difficult schedule and beat the top seeds.

Flacco has changed the offense. The Browns defense leads all of football in three and outs and yards per game.


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QB advantage Browns
RB advantage Browns
OL advantage Browns
WR even
TE advantage Browns

Defense Line advantage Browns
LBs advantage Browns
DBs advantage Browns

intangibles advantage Texans

Browns should win the game easily.

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The whiny azz bawlbabies are starting early I see. Houston hasn't beaten a really good team this year, whether Stroud played or not. They played only 4 of the 14 teams currently in the playoffs. They were throttled by us and the rats, they barely beat the Baker led bucks and allowed them 37 points....and they beat the steelers.


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How did we get less healthy other than Ward, who is going to play?

Tillman is a non factor. He wouldn’t have made the difference between winning and losing.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I am oddly not nervous.

Not sure if that is good or bad.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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From ESPN

(5) Browns at (4) Texans
Saturday, 4:30 p.m. ET | NBC | Spread: CLE -2 (44.5)

What to watch for: The last time these two teams played, Browns wide receiver Amari Cooper finished with a team-record 265 receiving yards in Cleveland's 36-22 win. The Texans didn't have their starting quarterback, C.J. Stroud, who was in concussion protocol, and Case Keenum stepped in and threw two interceptions. The Texans have the utmost confidence that they can beat any team when they have Stroud, so expect this matchup to be much different now that he's healthy. -- DJ Bien-Aime

Bold prediction: The Browns will win the turnover battle for only the third time this season. This is the first playoff matchup since the 1970 merger featuring a team that committed the league's most turnovers (Cleveland, 37) against the team that committed the fewest (Houston, 14). The Browns have been emphasizing ball security in their building ahead of this matchup, so that should play in Cleveland's favor. -- Jake Trotter

Stat to know: Stroud's weakness is solving man coverage. While he has the highest QBR in the league against zone coverage (74), he ranks 27th against man (39). His QBR decline of 35.1 is the largest from zone to man coverage this season. This weekend, Stroud will face a Browns defense that runs man coverage at the 10th-highest rate (47%) and has the best man defense in the league.

Matchup X factor: Browns cornerbacks Denzel Ward and Martin Emerson Jr. -- whenever they are lining up on Nico Collins. The Texans wideout had an incredible season, ranking second in yards per route run behind only Tyreek Hill. If the Browns' corners can shut him down on any given play, that seriously depletes Stroud's options. Emerson and Ward are good players, and this strength-on-strength matchup could decide the game. -- Walder

Game-plan key: I'm looking for the Browns to scheme some deep shots for quarterback Joe Flacco. He had five completions on passes thrown at least 20 yards downfield when Cleveland met Houston in Week 16. Can the Texans contain the Browns' vertical passing game? Read more at ESPN+. -- Bowen

Injuries: Browns | Texans

Officiating note: This game will feature two of the NFL's most penalized teams. The Browns were flagged 138 times, second most in the NFL, while the Texans were No. 5 with 132 flags. And Browns opponents were flagged 133 times, most in the league. However, referee Clay Martin's regular-season crew threw the fourth-fewest flags in the league at 12.4 per game. -- Seifert

Betting nugget: The Texans are 9-3 against the spread (ATS) in their past 12 meetings against the Browns.

Moody's pick: Texans 24, Browns 21
Walder's pick: Texans 23, Browns 16

FPI prediction: CLE, 50.5% (by an average of 0.2 points)


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In many of the "picks" by whoever. I don't think they really know the Browns.

They look at some stats. They have seen Stroud and what he has done. Then they make a guess.

The Texans won 3 games last year. They played a weak schedule and their division is weak. No matter what Stroud has done and he has played great. He is a rookie. He has never been in a playoff game against a defense like the Browns.

Schwartz has 40 years of experience. He knows how to rattle a young qb.

I really do not see this as a close game.

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Listening to the same crap on NFL network running some errands before the game.
They are making it sound like we are playing Brady or Montana, both names they just mentioned in comparison to Stroud.

They said virtually nothing about our d. They said nothing about their defense, the butt whooping we laid down a couple weeks ago, nothing

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When he wins today he will pass Brett Favre for the most wild card game wins ever in the NFL.

Flacco also has seven road playoff wins and one more would move him past Tom Brady for most in NFL history.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
I feel really good about this game.

Thanks...Kiss of Death.

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He's felt good about almost every game this year. The Browns are 11-6. I like those odds.


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j/c:

Cool interview.



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I can't post it on the board or provide the link because it has the F word in the video. But if you want to see something to help fire you up, go on Youtube and search "Living La Vida Flacco". It's a pretty sweet video.


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There's also a meme going around. Can't show if for the same language issue. It uses that judge that just got attacked in court. The defendant jumped the desk.

BUT, in the meme it states "Myles Garret after CJ Straud says 'set, hut!"

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I saw that one. Loved it as well!


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I felt really bad about the Niners and the second Ravens game.

I did not think we would win those games. In fact i was shocked.

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That's why I said "He's felt good about almost every game this year. thumbsup

I've been paying attention.


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As we all know from experience. Football can be strange.

We are indoors. Unlike the Bills/Steelers or the KC/Miami games where the weather introduces factors.

The weather will be constant.

We beat this team recently at this location. We did not have a punter or kicker. We were forced to go for it when a field goal would have made sense.

Stroud has played great. He has not faced a defense like the Browns.

We destroyed their defense. They do not match-up well against our offense.

There are never guaranteed wins. But if we play our game with limited mistakes.

I feel good about us winning this game.

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I feel good about it too but I try to keep it a little more simple than that. In the last two games where the Browns played their starters they scored 36 against the Texans and 37 against the Jets. The Jets D is ranked 3rd according to FOX Sports. While the Texans D ranks 14th.

NFL Team Defense Rankings through Week 18

https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2023-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

I combine that with the fact that the Texans with Stroud starting last week only managed to score 23 points against the Colts D which is ranked 24th by that very same source. By contrast the Browns D is ranked #1.


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The wind here in Cleveland is terrible....especially along the Lake. Some places have already lost power and it might get worse.

I lost power yesterday for a few hours and could lose it again. If so, I''ll be drinking a beer in my car, in the driveway, listening to Jim Donovan.

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Best of luck Memphis. Hope you keep your electric and watch the game on TV.


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Gusts up to 50mph here in Fort Wayne, wind chill as low as -25 later this evening. I'm about to drive across town to the backers bar because I can't stand the thought of cheering all alone lol.


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This is the first real QB we will face in the Flacco run except Stafford , I got an uneasy feeling on this one hope I'm wrong

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Wife tried earlier this week to either have some friends over, or go to their house for the game. They were leaving for Florida. I'm glad. I prefer to watch the game/s here at home, by myself, in the garage.

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Wife tried earlier this week to either have some friends over, or go to their house for the game. They were leaving for Florida. I'm glad. I prefer to watch the game/s here at home, by myself, in the garage.

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Originally Posted by FATE
I'm about to drive across town to the backers bar because I can't stand the thought of cheering all alone lol.

I'm the complete opposite. I prefer to watch alone (aside from my wife and kids being here). I need all focus to be on the game and no distractions. I'd probably have to leave a Browns Backers bar after about 2 mins of being in that environment, lol.

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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Originally Posted by FATE
I'm about to drive across town to the backers bar because I can't stand the thought of cheering all alone lol.

I'm the complete opposite. I prefer to watch alone (aside from my wife and kids being here). I need all focus to be on the game and no distractions. I'd probably have to leave a Browns Backers bar after about 2 mins of being in that environment, lol.

Which is why I do not go to games anymore. The small, private party with the 50 yard line view of every play from a TV is my preferred viewing option.

But when the wind limits your choices, choices must be made.


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I am real picky about who I watch a game with. My son is best.

He knows the game well and stays positive during the game.

But I rarely get to watch a game with him. Mostly alone and nervous.

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