DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Defining Woke for GOPers…

You can’t fix stupid.

I would love to hear Eve, Fate, arch, Peen, and Jimbo define woke in their own words as to what they think it mens…

Crazy ass mental cases who make decisions based on equity instead of merit.

You are the OCD of the right wing posters. Well, you and Jim. At least OCD isn't multiplying.

What I said is true. The bar is set super low if your skin is the right color or you are the right gender. Or you are a dude in a dress.

You use the term mental cases like it doesn't apply to trump and only to the left. Name calling isn't truth. It's the lack of ability certain people have to express themselves with anything but hateful rhetoric.

I answered his question truthfully. You cant handle it and gotta bring Trump in. Thats all you got when you lose an argument "But Trump"

Saying dumb ass things like "Crazy ass mental cases" and "libtrards" show exactly who and what you are. That's not truth, that's just plain nastiness.

Keep crying. Attack the messenger when you cant handle the message. You are a waste of time and only feces comes out of your mouth. I'll respond when OCD comes back around. I'm only interested in his opinion.

Thanks Eve. And even though your answer is ridiculous, just like the GOPers in the video, I don’t think you truly understand that woke is just being aware of what you say and do and how it might impact another’s FEELINGS. But it’s not that simple. Watch the video.

But I am interested in this merit system you are talking about. Please explain how that would work in detail. I’d like to see if it has merit.

Does this mean you only show respect if someone merits it? Does it mean you only get medical if you are deserving? Seriously, I’d like to know how you see it all working out in your meritocracy.

Thanks again for posting what a nasty person you really are. In case you missed it, nobody cares about your meaningless BS. You never really make any points, post any sources or have anything of substance to say. You just try to get under people's skin but your game is so weak you can't even do that.

My answer is not ridiculous, it is correct. Also, nobody should have to tiptoe around somebody else's feelings. Boohoo my feelings are hurt. Thats stupid, not how life works, and now I understand why libtards need safe spaces.

Check my last post, I edited while you were answering.

Nobody cares about their feelings. But they do pay attention of who lacks the ability to communicate on any level but being rude and obnoxious without any substance. All they have in their mental weaponry is hateful and disgusting things. That says far more about you than anyone else. But you have to keep doing what you're doing because that's all you've got.

You dont understand merit?

Merit: Earning something (reward, praise, job, promotion, trophy, etc) because you earned it through hard work, qualification, competing, etc

Equity: Earning something based on identity (color of skin, gender, sexual orientation) and not because you earned it. (reparations, promotions, job, etc)

Awe, aren't you clever today?

Of course I understand merit, don’t be an idgit. But a meritocracy seems all but impossible. So I want you, and your obvious in depth knowledge of a merit based system to tell me exactly how it would work. I mean if you can’t do that, then you are just spewing word salad like Trump. I also know the definition of meritocracy and how elusive or unreal it is. But I digress, and give you this opportunity to change my mind. You either will or you won’t, but if you can’t verbalize it (spell it all out), then it’s not real.

You dont know how a merit system works? LoL I just told you. You can go google about it if you need further reading material.

So you are going to play like that? Tell me. Nevermind, I know you don’t have a clue and are just running your mouth.

Are you pretending you dont understand my point? I will quote it again for you because none of you have addressed it.

I'm just curious, were you expecting more than that? Let me show you what it at least seems to mean from what I've heard from people of her ilk.

Were you raised in a bad school system? Was your high school substandard? Did the state, city or school district where you attended high school rate low on a national level in the quality of education?

Well we don't give a damn and that doesn't make any difference! When you take the SAT, only those with the highest scores matter because we call that the merit system and no other factors matter!

BTW Eve, China runs a form of meritocracy where you become a government official by taking a test. Just an FYI, because we all know how much GOPer America wants to be like the Chinese…

China is way ahead of us in most measures of education and skillset. Americans have done nothing but dumb down their education system so that its equitable and barely merit based. Because, yenno, its run by woke libtards.

https://ncee.org/top-performing-countries/

Woke...be awake, aware, open to ideas.

That said, I have been woke my whole life. Woke isn't something that is exclusive to liberals. Actually, liberals are the opposite of woke. They use the term to somehow soften their stupid, deviant, Marxist agenda aimed at the rest of the country.

If woke means lowering standards, lack of self responsibility and moral compass, then I don't want anything to do with that.

Woke is what Republicans decided to call them. They didn't decide to "use the term". For some reason the GOP thought calling them woke was a put down. Thanks for pointing out just how wrong they were.

We agree on America’s dumbing down, but equality is at the very root of who we are as Americans, is it not? Are you and I regardless of race, education, or experience not equals? I think the right seems to believe certain people are not deserving of a share of the American dream, and in many instances find others to somehow be lesser than they themselves. They damn sure find differences to highlight for anyone they don’t like.

I think in any democracy, everyone should have opportunities. Not just a few that some BS system decides ‘merit’ those opportunities. Education should be free. Basic housing/shelter, medical care, clothing, education (including higher education), modern communication methods, public transportation, and food should all be accessible and affordable for all Americans. Then we can talk about merits.

It is a black term that has been used in the AA community since the mid 20th century, so I don't think it was started by a GOP group. It was used as a term signifying racial awareness.

Here, I'm not repeating myself again.

Anyway, I have to go get ready for the Cavs game.

Woke is the opposite of what this Country was built on. It wants people to see themselves as victims. Victims that need the government to help them, protect them. It is a way to enslave the very people they say they are protecting. This Country was built on entrepreneurship, ownership. It wants us to see the Country we live in as a horrible place that oppresses people. Which is a lie. This Country has freed people within its borders and across the globe from oppression time and time again. Woke is a form of religion that is contrary to everything that is right, pure, and good. Wokeness wants people to own nothing, does not support the sanctity of marriage. It destroys the family make up in favor of government. Encourages mental illness of the sexual deviants and kills babies!!! That is woke!

It's not even set! When someone sets it, the marginalized retain the right to say it was in the wrong place no matter what. The marginalized tell you where the bar should be set (and it can change at the drop of a dime), according to their feelings on that day. And when you had it in the wrong place, phew, you better bow down and make some strong statements about your privilege girl!

yeah the merit system……where if you are a certain race, or gender, usually you don’t even qualify for that system. Outside looking in.

Thank you for admitting two things..

1. You are woke and you even defined it correctly.

2. That the GOPers like Desantis and others have used "Woke" incorrectly

Let's be honest, they heard Obama use the term and thought, hey that's something we can seize upon to destroy the left in the press. It's sad that they used it incorrectly. Even worse, the mental midgets on the Right believed it!

Looks like the GOP is still ticked off that Obama won the election, twice.

. Of course they are. They’ll never live that one down. It’s the main reason they keep throwing trump at US. Revenge. They don’t want to govern. They want revenge. trump promises them this. With trump, the only good dem is a dead dem.

It once was. But you still haven't been paying attention................

What is the meaning of 'woke'? Once a term used by Black Americans, it's now a rallying cry for GOP

During the 2023 Conservative Political Action Conference, speaker after speaker attacked "woke" ideology in their speeches to conservative activists.

Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley decried wokeness as "a virus more dangerous than any pandemic, hands down."

"I traveled the country calling out the woke-industrial-complex in America,” GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy bragged.

Elsewhere, Republicans have declared war on "woke capitalism” and even introduced legislation like the "Stop WOKE Act," in Florida, an acronym for Stop the Wrongs to Our Kids and Employees.

The uptick on excoriating "woke " ideology has increased in recent years among politicians, including former President Donald Trump, as Americans across the nation battle over diversity, inclusion and equity efforts in the workforce, public schools and in legislation.

But what is "woke"? And what do the GOP attacks mean for 2024?

What does being woke mean?

Among conservative lawmakers and activists "woke" tends to be an across-the-board denunciation of progressive values and liberal initiatives.

Some have used it to attack trans and gay rights while others apply it to critical race theory – a legal theory that examines systemic racism as a part of American institutions – and the teachings of the New York Times' 1619 project in public schools.

"If you ask people what woke is, I think what they mean is they want to stand against people who are engaging in some type of advocacy for marginalized people," said Andra Gillespie, political scientist at Emory University.

"It's kind of this lumping together of anybody whose views could be construed as being progressive on issues related to identity and civil rights."

At CPAC this year, for example, Daily Wire host Michael Knowles called for the eradication of "transgenderism."

Woke capitalism:Why Republicans aren't winning over investors in war against ESG and 'woke' big business

But Black Americans have used the term "woke" since at least the early-to-mid 20th century to mean being alert to racial and social injustice.

A version of the term was first used by Pan-African activist Marcus Garvey as early as 1923. It was later popularized by Blues artists such as Lead Belly, who used it when singing about the Scottsboro Boys, a group of nine Black teenagers who were falsely accused of raping two white women on a train in northeast Alabama in 1931.

As the Black Lives Matter movement began after the police killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, "woke" expanded outside of Black communities into the larger public lexicon.

What about 'stay woke'?

Black artists and entertainers continued to insert the phrase in their music, including Grammy-award-winning artists Erykah Badu and Childish Gambino — a.k.a. Donald Glover—for political causes.

Yet "woke" has now been hijacked by the political right to mean something far from its original definition.

"The reason we have to 'stay woke' is because of exactly what these people are doing right now, which is finding very insidious ways to undercut our rights," said Terri Givens, a political science professor at McGill University.

Givens called the attacks on the term "a full-on dog whistle" and pointed to attempts to limit the right to vote, curtail reproductive and abortion rights and ban inclusive education in schools as examples of the backlash against Black and brown civil rights.

"Learning history is not about woke-ism," Given said.

The 'woke' backlash

Political experts said the backlash to woke-ism greatly increased after the 2020 worldwide protests against the murder of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor's killing.

Conservatives now use the term as a political retort to combat what they perceive as political correctness gone haywire.

But progressive commentators note that the response also comes in the context of a changing America, which is becoming more diverse racially and ethically and along sexual orientation and gender identity lines.

"What they're trying to do is make the term a pejorative," said Kendra Cotton, chief operating officer of New Georgia Project, a progressive-leaning voting rights group.

As more marginalized groups are elected into office and exercising their voting power during elections, it can make some Americans afraid, said Cotton.

GOP wins House majority:Republicans send a message to 'woke' businesses— get out of politics

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a possible GOP presidential candidate, has built a persona crusading against ideas and policies conservatives deem as "woke."

In addition to championing the Stop WOKE Act, he has stated that the Sunshine state is "where woke goes to die."

Tehama Lopez Bunyasi, a political scientist at George Mason University and co-author of the book "Stay Woke: A People's Guide to Making All Black Lives Matter," said the legislation is "perhaps the most explicit way we see the co-optation of the term 'woke' today."

“Right now, we're seeing racially conservative pundits and politicians positioning themselves as adversaries of the multiracial Black Lives Matter movement," said Lopez Bunyasi. "One of the rhetorical tools they are using is the maligning of a term that has been in use by Black people and in Black politics for well over a hundred years."

Have the anti-woke attacks been successful?

Virginia GOP Gov. Glenn Youngkin cruised to victory in 2021 riding a wave of parental anger over teaching inclusive history in public schools.

Keneshia Grant, a political scientist at Howard University, said Youngkin's success was part of an intentional pushback against marginalized communities, which includes misunderstanding terms like woke, critical race theory, and LGBTQ rights.

"He ends up successfully using the fear that people have about teaching students Black history or American history through the guise of CRT and successfully uses that to motivate a base," Grant said. "They are doing this because they think it will help them win. And we have evidence that sometimes it actually does help them win."

Americans divided on what 'woke' means

What's telling is that despite the conservative backlash most Americans don't view "woke" negatively heading into the 2024 presidential contest.

A March 2023 USA TODAY/Ipsos Poll found that 56% of Americans said it means "to be informed, educated on, and aware of social injustices."

But the efforts to re-define "woke" have worked with a significant portion of the country. Roughly 39% of those surveyed agree with the Republican definition,"to be overly politically correct and police others' words."

"Racial resentment and grievance are certainly one of those things that have been very effectively used to mobilize a certain segment of the Republican population for a long time," said Gillespie.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/03/09/what-is-woke-meaning/11425775002/

This the reality of what's going on in the world around you. Denying it or staying blind to it won't change it no matter what you say about it. It's used as a weapon by the GOP and they are the ones who chose to use it. Nobody said the GOP invented the term. But they did decide to use the term to create a culture war. Your claim was "they use the term". No, the GOP use the term.

I have to give you some credit. At least you admitted the fact that certain people and groups are marginalized. That's a lot more than many people are willing to do.

Who trained you to think like this? You support a man who thinks magnets don't work when they get wet and can't tell the difference between Nancy Pelosi and Nikki Haley then accuse others of encouraging mental illness?

Yep. Unfortunately marginalized can mean you felt like a girl this morning, it rained, and none of the privileged white men offered an umbrella.

And what's with the magnet thing? How much mileage do you really think that is worth??


Your president looked out into a crowd and asked “Where’s Deborah?” three days ago. Said they just had their pic taken together backstage. Deborah wasn't even there.

At least it's better than “Where’s Jackie?” from a few months back.

Jackie was dead.


And you yourself replaced the word magnets with batteries all day Thursday.


Lame-o!