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Originally Posted by EveDawg
But youre ok with having a man in the white house who is so senile that he cant find his own butt with both hands.

Senile? Really? you can say that with a straight face when indeed you are backing a Hitler/Putin wannabe?

I'll take a senile Joe Biden over Hitler anytime.


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The Trump is Hitler posts are back again.

All is right in the world of ridiculous hyperbole.


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trump's plans for office coming from what he has said.

He has called for the termination of the Constitution. He wants the Supreme Court to grant unchecked power to the presidency, which he plans to use in a personal quest for “retribution” against his enemies. He is pledging to gut the civil service in government departments and to fill posts with political operatives. He’s signaled he’d use the Justice Department not as a quasi-independent arbiter of the rule of law but as a personal political enforcement machine. Many of Trump’s former officials fear he’d pull out of NATO, trash the post-World War II international system and side with dictators.

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Originally Posted by EveDawg
But youre ok with having a man in the white house who is so senile that he cant find his own butt with both hands.

I - for the life of me - will never understand this type of response. This could very easily be flipped the other way, too.

On a basic level, though, for elections such as these, just because one is REALLY bad, doesn't mean that you're okay with the other who is just bad. It just means you don't want the REALLY BAD person in office.

A sad state of affairs, but it's also the reality we're in.


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It's the type of thing she posts all of the time. She never says anything about trump not knowing the difference between Nikki Haley or that trump is either a habitual liar or delusional. Take your pick.



And of course magnets don't work when they get wet.

Thinking her "stable genius" is a better option is a figment of her imagination.


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AMEN- we are in terrible shape-our choices- reelect a person who doesn't want to admit he isn't up to the job....or elect a criminal former President who has zero moral character and panders to mans worst characteristics. I hope we have a viable third party candidate.

A nation divided can not continue- we, Americans think we are different than Rome, Athens, Holy Roman Empire, English dominance, etc., etc..we aren't. The real scary part comes with what happens to all our nukes and who controls them if the government fails-- couple of individuals loving conspiracies or some other none since sure could make for interesting times. Hell, we have elected officials- our best- believing in witches, baby slaying cults, school shootings staged, space lasers starting fires, the Deep State controls everything...on and on....the fall is coming.


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Just the fact that trump won the republican primary says a lot about where we are as a country.

After Jan 6th. one would think that would be impossible. But then you have Mitch McConnell endorsing a guy who he had this to say about trump:

"actions preceding the riot were a disgraceful dereliction of duty." He added that there is "no question" that Trump "is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of that day."

Mitch the spineless hypocrite.

But here we are as a country.

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Let's look at the people who actually worked with him in The White House....

Trump secretary of state Rex Tillerson said he was; “the most flawed person I’ve ever met in my life,” and his dishonesty was “just astounding.”

Retired Marine Gen. Jim Mattis said he was; “more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”

And speaking of McConnell. Here's what he said about trump regarding Jan. 6th; Trump’s actions surrounding the attack on Congress were “a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty.” He even noted that though Trump is now out of office, he remains subject to the country’s criminal and civil laws.

And then there is trumps comments about McConnell's wife; But while former President Donald Trump’s taunts at Elaine Chao — demeaning her as “Coco Chow” or a variation of Mitch McConnell’s “China-loving wife” — have been mostly met with silence from fellow GOP officials, the main target of them is now speaking out.

“When I was young, some people deliberately misspelled or mispronounced my name. Asian Americans have worked hard to change that experience for the next generation,” Chao said in a statement to POLITICO. “He doesn’t seem to understand that, which says a whole lot more about him than it will ever say about Asian Americans.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/25/elaine-chao-donald-trump-racist-attacks-00079478


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A flicker of hope remains......as you stated gutless Republicans still march to Trump's pied piper tune---yet, they keep saying good Republicans will stay the course- support the man due to his party. There are hundreds of thousands of former Republicans like this one--- Former Republican lawmaker and State Party Chairman Chris Vance had this to say:

"I was a Republican for 37 years. I served as a Republican lawmaker and the State Party Chairman of Washington state," he said Wednesday. "This year I will once again support Joe Biden for President. The party I belonged to has been transformed into a protofascist disgrace. Country before party."


The Lincoln Project has hurt Trump once- we disenchanted Republicans with independents and Democrats will defeat the Putin lover again.


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But youre ok with having a man in the white house who is so senile that he cant find his own butt with both hands.

Senile? Really? you can say that with a straight face when indeed you are backing a Hitler/Putin wannabe?

I'll take a senile Joe Biden over Hitler anytime.

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Bill named for Sharpsville Capitol rioter introduced by Marjorie Taylor Greene
Perna, who was convicted of witness tampering, disorderly conduct, and two counts of entering a restricted building or grounds, died by suicide before his sentencing.

A bill named for a Sharpsville man who took part in the January 6, 2021, Capitol Riot has been introduced by Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Greene introduced the Matthew Lawrence Perna Act of 2024 on March 1.

Perna, who was convicted of witness tampering, disorderly conduct, and two counts of entering a restricted building or grounds, died by suicide before his sentencing.

According to a release from Greene's office, the Matthew Lawrence Perna Act of 2024 "ensures that the political persecution witnessed in the aftermath of January 6th is curtailed by the law."

The bill would include several reforms including barring the detention of nonviolent political protesters, ensuring fair and speedy trials, limiting government surveillance and investigation, mandating that judges impose consistent sentences with applicable guidelines for defendants involved in covered political protest offenses, and permitting a transfer of venue in criminal trials for nonviolent political protesters in Washington, D.C.

Perna died at the age of 37. His obituary stated that Perna attended the January 6, 2021 rally to "peacefully stand up for his beliefs," and did not break into the Capitol, but entered through an open door.

The January 6th insurrection was an invasion of the Capitol building as Congress was certifying the results of the 2020 election that sought to interrupt the proceedings based on lies casting doubt on the results.


Proceedings were delayed for hours before being finalized late into the night, certifying the election for Joe Biden, but not before widespread damage and injury.

The obituary said Perna's "heart broke and his spirit died," because he was persecuted by members of the community, as well as repeated postponements in his court case.

In the days following Perna's death, three Republican members of Congress claimed he was an example of Capitol Riot suspects who they said were being persecuted by the Justice Department. Marjorie Taylor Greene was one of the three representatives, along with Louie Gohmert of Texas and Andy Biggs of Arizona.

Perna and six others from the Mahoning and Shenango Valleys were charged in connection to the Capitol Riot.

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South Carolina school district reviews, returns dozens of books after ban attempt

Beaufort, South Carolina, is proud of its literary heritage, the home to the late author Pat Conroy and his stories of the Lowcountry. So, when a few parents and residents pushed to ban nearly a hundred books from public school libraries, there was fierce debate. Librarians and educators were threatened and accused of providing pornography to minors. That led the school superintendent to temporarily pull dozens of books from middle and high school shelves while they were reviewed.

Those in favor of a ban wanted 97 books removed from schools in Beaufort County, saying they were concerned about language, depictions of sexual assault, drug use, violence and sex. The district already had a policy in place allowing parents to keep their children from reading certain books, explained high school librarian Karen Gareis, who pointed to the county's opt-out form.

"So, the procedure would be that it's a conversation between myself and the parent," Gareis said. "And if they don't like the book, they have every right to say that their child can't check that book out."

Gareis said she never had a parent come to her and complain about a book.

The school board was blindsided when two people filed complaints calling for bans, school board vice chair Dick Geier said.

"Parents have the right to determine what their children are taught and what they're allowed to read. No doubt about it," Geier said. "But what we're having a problem with is parents that want to determine what other parents' rights are for their children to read what they want."

What happened in Beaufort after the complaints?

The school board wanted to follow the established procedures, but a few activists, agitated by conspiracy theories, threatened librarians and board members calling them "groomers" — extreme rightwing hate speech meant to brand opponents as molesters grooming children for sex.

"We've had a parent come in and tell a librarian that, 'You are violating a state statute by providing pornography to a minor. I'm going to the sheriff. I'm going to have you arrested,' and storm out. Now that's not happened once, that's happened multiple times at multiple schools," Geier said. "I even got an email that said, 'OK, the sheriff said no, the solicitor said no, I'm going to the FBI! And if the FBI doesn't do it, I'm going to the federal district attorney!' I said, 'Go ahead.' Have a good day. Talk's cheap. I'm tired of the threats. Come and get me."

School Superintendent Frank Rodriguez feared violence, so he pulled all the books. A review team later found that one of the 97 books on the list had never even been on school library shelves at all.

The books include best sellers "The Kite Runner'' and "The Handmaid's Tale." Many on the list are young adult novels with minority, gay, lesbian or transgender characters. Some depict sex or violence. The books were mostly on shelves in high schools, with some in local middle schools. Four of the books were part of high school curricula.

Karen Gareis boxed up copies of the listed books in her library at Bluffton High School.

"From someone outside looking in, it's almost obvious that most of the books hadn't been read prior to being challenged, that some other source was used to gather these things together," Gareis said. "And the list is not unlike other lists that have been floating around other districts and been challenged, not in South Carolina but elsewhere as well. So when that happened, I was like, 'OK.' I knew we were in for a rough road."

Why some people are pushing for book bans

Nationwide, there were more than 3,000 instances of books banned in schools last year, according to PEN America. That rise in book bans has been driven, in part, by the self-described parental rights movement.

The book ban movement arrived in Beaufort in 2022, Geier said.

"We got an email from a citizen saying that 'these 97 books that we've heard about online that should be banned in a school. How many of those books do you have in your school?" So we checked," he said. "We had virtually all those books in the school."

Two county residents, one of them a parent and a former member of a group called Moms for Liberty, presented the list of 97 books. It was based on a website called BookLooks, founded in 2022 by another former member of Moms for Liberty. BookLooks is run by a Florida nurse who said via email that volunteers rate books on the site using BookLooks' standards, including those for "explicit sexual nudity" and "gender ideologies."

Nationwide, confrontations with school boards have been driven largely by the BookLooks ratings often promoted by Moms for Liberty volunteers.
What is Moms for Liberty

No organization has been more prominent in the "parental rights" movement than Moms for Liberty — a Florida-based conservative group. Its motto is "We do not co-parent with the government."

Moms for Liberty was founded in 2021 by two Florida women with school board experience, Tiffany Justice and Tina Descovich. Conservative education activist Bridget Ziegler, who's since left Moms for Liberty, also co-founded the group.

Tiffany Justice, one of the group's founders, told 60 Minutes they're "disrupting the balance of power in American education."

Challenging books which they feel are sexualizing children is just part of their platform. They are against teachers' unions; social and emotional learning programs; and the teaching of critical race theory in schools.

"Parents send their children to school to be educated, not indoctrinated into ideology," said Justice, who added that most public schools are failing at their mission of teaching children to read at grade-level.

"Our moms, over 100,000 members across these United States of America, are disrupting the balance of power in public education," Justice said in a 60 Minutes interview. "For too long, unions have had an undue influence in the decision-making process happening in our local schools. And we see where that has gotten us-- a system that-- protects itself, and oftentimes leaves the needs of students behind. And that has to change."

Justice read some sexually explicit lines from books found in schools. Justice and Descovich pointed to them as evidence that some teachers have an agenda to corrupt children.

Descovich said in an interview with 60 Minutes that "there are rogue teachers in America's classrooms right now."

In the interview, Justice also pushed back against critics who says the group has an anti-gay ideology, "Nothing could be further from the truth. We have gay members. I think it's an effort to really try to marginalize us as an organization because parents are coming together across racial lines, across religious lines, across all of these different ways that we see Americans being divided so often."
Charges of grooming

In the 60 Minutes interview, Justice and Descovich were asked about messages from the Moms for Liberty X account. One posting said "If they don't like being called groomers, they should stop trying to groom our kids."

When asked what they were trying to say, Descovich replied, "I'm going to say that if-- we'd have to see the exact tweet. Tiffany manages our Twitter account."
Tina Descovich

Another tweet targets a school librarian profiled in a magazine article. "You want to groom our children and we're supposed to give you love?"

When asked what they meant by grooming, Justice replied, "Parents want to partner with their children's schools. But we do not co-parent with the government."

Local chapters of Moms for Liberty set their own priorities, Justice and Descovich said, including whether and how they approach pushing for the removal of books from public schools.
Reviewing 97 books

In Beaufort, the proposed bans were largely met by critics who said these books taught valuable lessons to students. Some also said the mass banning of books was an attempt to erase stories about people of color and the LGBTQ+ community.

Beaufort asked residents to read and review all the books. Over the course of a year, 146 community members — along with teachers, librarians and educators — discussed, deliberated and voted on what had now become 96 books, because of that one on the list that turned out to not be in school libraries.

Each book was read and discussed by a panel, that then voted whether to return it to schools. Every decision had to then be ratified by the Beaufort County School Board, which included Geier.

The final panels met in late November and the last school board vote took place in December. Five books were banned, and the rest were returned to library shelves. Some were approved to be in middle and high schools, while others were approved for high schools.

Geier said Beaufort learned a lesson: diversity is important.

Ruth-Naomi James, a combat veteran who works for the schools and has a 16-year-old, called the review process "phenomenal." She served on four panels and voted to return each book to school library shelves.

"To take away the power that books give you to transform the world that they live in is asinine. There's no way I went to Iraq thinking that when I moved back home, I would have to do this to make sure that the freedom that we fight for in this country [isn't] taken out of the hands of students and parents," the mom said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/book-ban-efforts-beaufort-schools-60-minutes/


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Remember when one of the right wing know it alls on here told me I was nuts for calling Musk a Right wing nut job? Whoops, I was right, they were wrong.


Elon already said he is not donating to either party.


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He did say that he wasn't donating to either candidates capaign. I'm not sure if he thinks donating to a superpack is the same thing.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Let's look at the people who actually worked with him in The White House....

Trump secretary of state Rex Tillerson said he was; “the most flawed person I’ve ever met in my life,” and his dishonesty was “just astounding.”

Retired Marine Gen. Jim Mattis said he was; “more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.”

And speaking of McConnell. Here's what he said about trump regarding Jan. 6th; Trump’s actions surrounding the attack on Congress were “a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty.” He even noted that though Trump is now out of office, he remains subject to the country’s criminal and civil laws.

And then there is trumps comments about McConnell's wife; But while former President Donald Trump’s taunts at Elaine Chao — demeaning her as “Coco Chow” or a variation of Mitch McConnell’s “China-loving wife” — have been mostly met with silence from fellow GOP officials, the main target of them is now speaking out.

“When I was young, some people deliberately misspelled or mispronounced my name. Asian Americans have worked hard to change that experience for the next generation,” Chao said in a statement to POLITICO. “He doesn’t seem to understand that, which says a whole lot more about him than it will ever say about Asian Americans.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/25/elaine-chao-donald-trump-racist-attacks-00079478

Ehh, they're just a bunch of libtards!

Oh wait...

Honestly, that is what I'm talking about when I talk about how horrible of a candidate he is. The sad thing is we live in a media and constituency world that has a Dory-like memory.


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Remember when one of the right wing know it alls on here told me I was nuts for calling Musk a Right wing nut job? Whoops, I was right, they were wrong.


Elon already said he is not donating to either party.

He doesn't have to when he uses his platform as a megaphone anyhow.


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The sad thing is we live in a media and constituency world that has a Dory-like memory.

rofl rofl rofl


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Speaker Johnson Calls For Defunding Federal Law Enforcement Agencies That Have ‘Turned… Against the American People’
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Republicans often campaign on their commitment to supporting law enforcement, but during a press conference on Wednesday, Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) declared that he will push for cuts to several federal law enforcement agencies.

Johnson spoke on several points including the border, crime, and the State of the Union, and he bemoaned the policies of President Joe Biden. Not unpredictable since Johnson is a Republican and Biden is a Democrat. However, in the same speech he lamented crime rates — even though crime rates are down — seconds before announcing that he’d push for cuts to agencies that exist to fight crime and enforce laws, claiming that they have “overreach[ed]” and even “turned, in some ways, against the American people”:

We have advanced and we also advanced, as you’ve seen the summary, cuts to some of the agencies that we believe are really overreaching and have been turned, in some ways, against the American people. We’re going to cut 3 percent from [the Department of Justice], 7 percent from the [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms], 6 percent from the FBI, and 10 percent from the EPA. And that’s just a start.

Then he made it clear what his real priorities were as Speaker:


We have a lot more priorities and things that we need to advance. But the reality is, as we all recognize, is that we have to grow the House majority, take back the Senate for the Republican Party, and win the White House.

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If I hear the word "defund" again in any context, I'm going to jump through a wall.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
If I hear the word "defund" again in any context, I'm going to jump through a wall.


What about Da Funk




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This Katie Britt is frightening me. She's like a horror movie character when the wife turns evil.


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I’m glad to see you say that. I had to stop watching it because she was freaking me out. I thought it was an objective observation and seeing you post that confirms it. Don’t know WTF Republicans we’re thinking on that one.


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I’m glad to see you say that. I had to stop watching it because she was freaking me out. I thought it was an objective observation and seeing you post that confirms it. Don’t know WTF Republicans we’re thinking on that one.

"We'll contrast Biden's age by putting this young, pretty..."

psychopath out there.


A short time into that mess I began expecting her to 'glitch out' and start bleeding from the eyes.


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Politics---ya gotta love it--- and our justice system- example- Korbein Schultz, Sgt. USA sells classified documents at Secret level to Taiwan- for $42,000 - arrested faces life in prison--"career" over.....but, ex-President Trump steals, tries to keep TSI and higher-- he wins Republican nomination for President- with 91 indictments and over 1/2 BILLION dollars of fraud/sex related fines---he could be President--MAKE AMERICA GREAT--- what a country. All people treated equal under the law--- what a joke.

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Yeah, that was....something.

My guess is that they wanted a younger woman to be out there, especially since they knew Biden would bring up RvW. I just can't believe she was the best option. I think they already have the fundamentalist Christian base in their pocket. I was thinking they would at least try to be more objective to reach out to the undecideds or moderates, with a firm, rational, objective delivery.

Now I'm worried whenever I open a closet door that she'll be in there with a butcher knife.


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rofl

And yes, I honestly feel like a would be a better political strategist than most in Washington. You nailed it with the fundamentalist Christian point.

What is with all the preaching to the choir? All you ever need to do is give the choir an occasional wink.


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Wonder how the fundamentalist Christians feel about their leader-- ponying up 91 million plus for his sex slander conviction--- probably send his $ 20 to fund his legal bills--- the poor billionaire.


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Politics---ya gotta love it--- and our justice system- example- Korbein Schultz, Sgt. USA sells classified documents at Secret level to Taiwan- for $42,000 - arrested faces life in prison--"career" over.....but, ex-President Trump steals, tries to keep TSI and higher-- he wins Republican nomination for President- with 91 indictments and over 1/2 BILLION dollars of fraud/sex related fines---he could be President--MAKE AMERICA GREAT--- what a country. All people treated equal under the law--- what a joke.

PS- I don't approve of the Sgt's action.....but justice, equality....right.

Not for nothing, bro, but no one will read this. Getting through the first sentence is worse than a toothache.

A deaf person would have better luck clamping their teeth on the table to try to read the morse code machine.


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Originally Posted by hitt
Politics---ya gotta love it--- and our justice system- example- Korbein Schultz, Sgt. USA sells classified documents at Secret level to Taiwan- for $42,000 - arrested faces life in prison--"career" over.....but, ex-President Trump steals, tries to keep TSI and higher-- he wins Republican nomination for President- with 91 indictments and over 1/2 BILLION dollars of fraud/sex related fines---he could be President--MAKE AMERICA GREAT--- what a country. All people treated equal under the law--- what a joke.

PS- I don't approve of the Sgt's action.....but justice, equality....right.

Not for nothing, bro, but no one will read this. Getting through the first sentence is worse than a toothache.

A deaf person would have better luck clamping their teeth on the table to try to read the morse code machine.

More proof you don’t care to talk about justice equality or equality in general. Insults, the template, when that is all you have. Pffft GOPers.


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I’m glad to see you say that. I had to stop watching it because she was freaking me out. I thought it was an objective observation and seeing you post that confirms it. Don’t know WTF Republicans we’re thinking on that one.

"We'll contrast Biden's age by putting this young, pretty..."

psychopath out there.


A short time into that mess I began expecting her to 'glitch out' and start bleeding from the eyes.

The best description I read was:
"She's like a demon from a Steven King novel that is trying to convince you she is human."


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Originally Posted by hitt
Politics---ya gotta love it--- and our justice system- example- Korbein Schultz, Sgt. USA sells classified documents at Secret level to Taiwan- for $42,000 - arrested faces life in prison--"career" over.....but, ex-President Trump steals, tries to keep TSI and higher-- he wins Republican nomination for President- with 91 indictments and over 1/2 BILLION dollars of fraud/sex related fines---he could be President--MAKE AMERICA GREAT--- what a country. All people treated equal under the law--- what a joke.

PS- I don't approve of the Sgt's action.....but justice, equality....right.

Not for nothing, bro, but no one will read this. Getting through the first sentence is worse than a toothache.

A deaf person would have better luck clamping their teeth on the table to try to read the morse code machine.

More proof you don’t care to talk about justice equality or equality in general. Insults, the template, when that is all you have. Pffft GOPers.

Justice equality? Are you talking about the 85M to a chick that said rape is sexy or the 400M+ for taking loans and paying them back... to people that say they wish he would borrow more?

What would "justice equality" be in these cases? A public hanging?

The more you talk the dumber you sound.


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I think you meant to say 85M to a woman that a jury found trump had sexually assaulted.

The more you talk.... never mind.


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NOPE. Just tired of dodging snowflakes. Her words -- not mine.

Do you thing 85M is 'unequal justice'? Or is that no longer the questions, since I 'defamed' her?


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I don't care what you do. But the fact is a jury found that he did it. What she has said outside the facts in this case has no bearing on the case itself. It's simply a way to undermine her and minimize trump's actions. It's not hard to see it for what it is.

Just like making excuses for trump over inflating his wealth in a fraudulent manner to gain favorable interest rates on loans to the tune of millions. No matter how you slice that or how you try and sugar coat this that is what it is. It's fraud. Somehow you think you know better than the jury who heard the case.

In the E. Jean Carroll case a jury determined that judgement. They heard all of the evidence that found him liable him in the first place and the testimony at the second trial. Unlike yourself, I realize I didn't hear all of that evidence. Unlike yourself, I won't pretend that I know better what the appropriate amount of that judgement should be than a jury who did hear all of the evidence.

So you keep casting shade on the victim and pretend that fraud was okay because he paid the loans back. You know, the loans that were much easier to play back because he lied to get lower interest rates.

This is why we can't have nice things anymore.


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1. Didn't say he wasn't guilty. Didn't say they did. Didn't undermine anyone. Her words.

2. Didn't make excuses. Every bank has a right and an obligation to negotiate interest rates and exercise their own due diligence in assessing property value. And in the case of Trump and loans of that value -- everyone all the way to the top is involved. You're talking like he stole those interest rates from someone else and now they can't get them. Ridiculous and mindless at best.

3. Good for the jury. Good for the evidence. I'm glad you think 85M was unfair. I beg to differ.

4. See #2 and read slowly


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I remember that one time I told the salesman to get me a better rate on financing and he went and talked to the manager.

#fraud


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#sametiredassnarratives are the excuses people use to try and claim they know more than the juries who heard these cases. The way they try to minimize trump's actions. Your theory seems to be, "Yeah he committed fraud but the banks could have negotiated a better deal." Yep, #sametiredassnarratives

When you take something that has zero to do with a case and make a point to bring it up WHILE discussing the case, you just tried to use it to undermine the victim. You know, "it has nothing to do with the facts in this case but did you hear what she said?" Denial seems to be your only course of action at this juncture.


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I remember that one time I told the salesman to get me a better rate on financing and he went and talked to the manager.

#fraud

Did you commit fraud by lying about your wealth or income in order to get a better rate? #sametiredassnarratives


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