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If they would sign him, it seems like one of those situations where you find talent that hasn't matched draft position on the cheap and hope to catch lightning in a bottle.

Bush was the #10 overall pick in the 2019 draft.

Wouldn't mind taking a flier on him. What he did well at Michigan would seem to fit with Schwartz's aggressive style. He's still fairly young.

Good point Bone but I feel either one would help us. They are both 26 this year. Young guys that could improve under JS.

simple case of a guy being able to survive on his draft spot

Up to this point I'm pleased with the FA signings. If we can sign a LB that would be good. Then we can use the draft for BPA.

Is White worth the money? I don't so much question that White is the better player. It's about the value. Does it matter if your paper weight is solid gold? Can it get the job that you are asking it to do done? Does it fit within your budget? What are you asking it to do?

I'm not sure that White is 300% better than Bush or that he'd produce 3 times the value even if so.

I agree .. I see on twitter that some people are mad that we aren't going for the big names, but we are being smart. We'll probably still trade Newsome, gain some draft capital and save some money there too

I don't believe that playing "3 times better" is the measuring stick. You have levels of players and their value is, or at least should be based on which level they fit into. As an example a WR who catches for 600 yards per season doesn't mean a WR who catches for 1200 yards per season isn't worth three times as much. It's true his production in only double that of the WR who catches for 600 yards but he is in the elite level of WR's and that's what the market is set at for his services.

I think bone hit the nail on the head. If Bush can fill the needs at the position adequately there is no need to sign a player at the elite level at the position. That does not however mean that White isn't worth the money for a team that requires a better player in that role.

Right. I think that last part is important. Fit is important. Actual/expressed Value is largely dependent on what one is asked to do.

I think our FO probably also considers the idea of surplus value. They might think Bush's cost is low enough that he'd provide more value than that number. I.e, he's costing 2.5M while providing "3M" in value. Meanwhile, White might provide 8M of "actual value" while wanting to be paid upwards of 10M with multiple years of guarantees.

A big 'shout-out' to Memphis for all the post giving us the latest news. It is really appreciated to get this info as soon as it happens. We are knowledgeable because of his efforts. Many thanks, man....

Hmmmmmmm... A little surprised by this. An extension wouldn't have surprised me. A restructure seems a bit odd. Maybe it's the same thing.

https://fanrecap.com/big-move-uconn..._RTvlVl6kLOitYrptd9fRXxE8b6jO3AKnYAiAbKU

Not sure if everyone seen this. So, here's the link

Will be interesting to see how all the influences new and old come together in this season's offense. Watched some UConn after I saw the hire, and I can say I like the way Christian Haynes played on their OL.

Browns re-sign DT Maurice Hurst II

Hurst played in 13 games with the Browns during the 2023 season

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-re-sign-dt-maurice-hurst-ii

BREAKING NEWS!!! BROWNS HIRE MIKE VRABEL! - Quincy Carrier

In Quincy Carrier's latest podcast (link above), he pointed (about halfway into the podcast) out something interesting. Jerry Jeudy restructured his contract to free up 10 million dollars of cap space. He was at 13 million now down to 3. This is not a normal restructure similar to Watson or Garrett. This was negotiated. AB renegotiated his 5th-year option similar to Jed Wills.

What are AB and Browns cooking up?

Interesting Bugs, thanks for the info.

I’ll have to read up about it.

I heart David Njoku.

With 5 different QBs, BTW.

If Lynch can still play at least decent he would be a good rotational guy for the D-line. I like the way AB is trying to acquire players that may be able to help us.

I've really gained an appreciation of the way they plug the main holes in FA to give themselves flexibility with the draft and these types of signings.

He hasn't played since 2020 and is 31. I wouldn't expect much even if he is signed.

True he hasn't played in 3 years but that also means he hasn't taken the pounding that those 3 years would have brought. If he's signed it's a low risk and a possible good reward for us.

Lynch was decent in his 1st 2 seasons ..... and did very little in 5 additonal seasons after that.

Meh.

Did Mo Hurst just spill the beans, lol? It has been speculated the Browns would open up against the Eagle in Brazil.

It's the way it should be. It doesn't always work that way. If helps that we have an owner who is willing to work near the top of the salary cap. Some owners don't do that and assign their own salary cap. We also have some smart people in the FO who understand the salary cap.

You should go in to the draft being able to draft the best players you can, or address anticipated future needs. Berry and team seem to address next years needs. We don't need a guard now, but probably will next year. I expect to see a guard drafted. Maybe a tackle, or both positions. Get the guy in, work to get him ready to plug and play next season.

So when we see a headscratcher selection, just understand the guy was the highest rated guy on our board, and or he is a needs pick for next season. As Browns fans we have been conditioned to drafting guys for needs hoping for immediate impact. Those days are mostly done. The team isn't expecting a drafted rookie to have to step in and make immediate impact. It's great if they do, but the expectation is they are ready to do that in year two.

The quick walkback! The Browns are definitely opening up the season in Brazil.

Peter King was interviewed a few weeks back regarding his logic on why Cleveland would be chosen over other Philadelphia opponents. It made a ton of sense. I may try to find the audio of that interview if it is available.

j/c:



If true, I believe this aligns with Andrew Berry's comments from the NFL Combine.

A good sign, hopefully.

When the window is open for the team to win teams need to maximize the cap space like the Browns are doing now. When the team is in rebuild mode and or in the building a team that is capable of winning mode it is a good idea to leave cap space available so when you believe you are close you can resign or nucleus to long term deals and sign key free agents or trade compensation like an Amari Cooper to hopefully put the team over the top.

https://www.audacy.com/923thefan/sp...L703CVWlW6T528Z40F78Uvv-ueZQdgIZESth-nM8

Interesting conversation, particularly about the AFC North.

For anyone that wants the TL;DR

Some guy named Robert Mays says Deshaun Watson will suck this year.

How can this be correct? I just saw a FB site, Factory of Sadness, post an article claiming the Browns signed Huntley because DW was way behind regarding his rehab and won't be ready to go. At least that si what the "headline" implied.

Now my impression of the internet's accuracy is blown away. Do tell.