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This is the third year in a row that the Browns don’t have a first round draft choice. Nothing of real value to speculate on…

Hope they find another Dwand Jones. Sigh.

You answered your own question..

I don't believe they're done in the FA market at all. A lot of the signings were more for depth and even projects. Which is a very important part of the process. But there is a lot of time between now and the draft and if you look back, you'll see a lot of FA's get signed later in the process. Clowney didn't sign with the Browns in 2022 until May 22nd as an example.

I'm not trying to indicate the Browns will sign a splash player like Clowney by any means. What I'm saying is free agency is far from over after the first few days.

Some of those they signed will most likely be practice squad players or are an experiment. What you seem to be referring to is the final 53 man roster. There's still a ton of room for players going into camp. At this point I guess we'll just have to sit back and see. But if I were abetting man I would wager there are still more signings to come.

I read a rumor somewhere that they were "discussing" Hunter Renfrow after his release, but I don't really see it, either.

After the Bush signing I really feel that now AB has set things up where he can take BPA with our picks.

Hmmmm... Minnesota gearing up to move up even more?

not sure anyone in the top 3will let them take one of the top QB's.
Wash and NE don't have a QB.


1) Chicago Bears (from Carolina)
2) Washington Commanders
3) New England Patriots
4) Arizona Cardinals
5) Los Angeles Chargers
6) New York Giants
7) Tennessee Titans
8) Atlanta Falcons
9) Chicago Bears
10) New York Jets

J.J. McCarthy come on down...

I get where you are coming from. It's just a weird time to make a move unless it's to make another move. Hard to know who will be available at 23 right now.

I suppose they could think that this draft is very top heavy and falls off fast, but giving up the future 2 along with the QB situation in Minnesota makes me think they want to make sure they come away with one of the top 4 QBs and they don't think one will drop to where they are now.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if QBs went 1 through 4. Or maybe 1, 2, 3, 5. Not sure how far back Arizona would be willing to go and risk missing out on one of the top 3 WRs. They could likely be convinced though.

Curtis Jacobs, LB, Penn State is a guy that I think could fit.

Also think Johnny Wilson, WR, Florida State could be an interesting TE convert fit.

It's kind of hard to find guys that I think could actually make the roster with where we are picking (and where they're projected.) Hopefully that speaks to the quality depth we are starting to build.

6'7" 240 does seem like a TE... but then again he does "WR things" pretty well. 😲

I just see more of a path at TE this year. Particularly if they want to stretch the field up the seams as Alabama appeared to while Rees was there. Akins was underwhelming and we could release him with only ~300k in dead cap, plus he's already 32 so upside isn't really there. Wilson would have to beat him out, but it looks doable from my perspective.


WR room is getting a little crowded. Versatility to fill in there is a bonus.

I very much like your idea of putting him in the TE role. Having a double threat at the TE position would be a very advantageous situation to be in.

Also like the mammoth wing span. Would be a big change from Bryant. Nice to have a target that is effectively "open" even when he's covered as there are more places you can put the ball that only he can get it.

I like Allen. There is still room in the Browns offense for some smashmouth.

I agree. I am hoping for Trey Benson also. A back with 4.39 speed. The Browns can lean on him while Chubb heals. Then when Chubb comes back the duo could be a dynamic 1,2 punch.

The earliest Berry has drafted a running back is the 5th round. That may be coincidence, but it might not be. He's drafted a kicker earlier.

With RB contracts in FA being rather deflated in comparison to other positions, I'm not sure he'll use high draft capital on one.

I wouldn't hate it, I just don't expect it. Maybe the unique circumstances of Chubb's status make this year an exception. I wouldn't be surprised if we go OL early instead, though. WR also a possibility with lots of guys there being on their last year. This draft might be more about next year as it looks like it will be hard for a rookie to have a ton of impact this year.

Positional scarcity is one of the considerations on the "guard rails," and solid backs are usually fairly easy to find, though perhaps that is changing with even teams like Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, and Army/Navy going more pass heavy.

I don't necessarily disagree with anything you are saying here.

I'm more speculating on what I think Berry will do. I don't think Berry puts enough of a premium on RB to trade up for one, and I think Benson goes before 54. I also think Berry is still higher on Ford than most fans. I don't think he'll see an obvious upgrade.

There are multiple ways to look at the idea of "We could not run the ball last year with any consistency." Some might put more or less of that inability on the OL. We brought in the Yale OT for a top 30 visit, which makes me think that's the spot that's on AB's mind. There are a lot of interesting OL prospects this draft. A good one might slip to 54.

Kingsley Suamataia, BYU, might be a name to watch, though he's been climbing some big boards recently.

If Benson is there at 54, I'm on board with running the card in.

I think Benson might have some injury/medical concerns. I think he had a rather major non-contact knee and hamstring injury (tore the 3 big knee ligaments, his meniscus, and the hammy) before he transferred to FSU. link

I like Benson but there are a fair number of solid Rb's - corum UM, brooks texas, estime ND, wright Tenn, allen wisc, guerendo louisville

I think fiske and franklin are gone before our pick.

Love leggette - he reminds me of terrell owens

I also like jeremiah trotter clem and junior colson UM at ILB,
edgerin cooper Texas a&m and payton wilson ncst at OLB

Love Lb Tommy Eichenberg Ohio State but he seems a little fragile

With the signing of Foreman, I have doubts RB is ABs' thoughts with either of our day 2 picks. Would love Fiske - have a feeling it is the OT from Yale, however.

I agree with hammer. I get the feeling that once we go past Chubb, Berry is a back by committee type guy.

If somebody studs out, great, but if the line is good enough, almost anybody can be productive enough.

Maybe a Depo influence. Thinking back to the movie Money Ball, the though was you can't replace 30 HR's with 1 player, but you can with 2 players.

Also, where is Benson projected? I don' t see Berry going with a 2nd round back. Is Benson a 3rd round guy?

If he is there at our pick, then it could be. As explained above, I don't see Berry as a very RB centered GM. He will always take value. I just don't see him a placing any great value on a RB. Too many teams do just fine without a stud back, especially in a pass centered league. Way more rules that favor wide receivers and QB's than RB's.

Benson looks like a fine RB but if I had to wager, I would say we're going DL or LB first and then OL. JMO.