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It's not "not being sold" on him ....... it's this whole attitude that any schlub off the street could walk onto this team and throw 30+ Tds.
Man ..... for him to do something that only 1 other Browns QB EVER has done is incredible. The only thing that I think is more incredible is that so many discount this accomplishment as nothing special.
As far as line and receivers .... well when Kosar was here, he had a really good OL, and Slaughter, Langhorn, and some guy named Newsome to throw to. He also had a 1-2 punch at RB with some guys named Mack and Byner. Because of that ... does that mean that any bum could have come in and done as well, if not better than he did?
No QB is ever good in a vaccuum ...... but not just any QB can step into that spot on a good team and maintain or improve on what the last guy did. There are no guarantees.
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It's not "not being sold" on him ....... it's this whole attitude that any schlub off the street could walk onto this team and throw 30+ Tds.
No, not any schlub...I'm talking about other starting QBs and a few backups.
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Man ..... for him to do something that only 1 other Browns QB EVER has done is incredible. The only thing that I think is more incredible is that so many discount this accomplishment as nothing special.
I'm not sure what you expect here. Should we all be jumping up and down singing his praises when we don't feel like you do? I don't believe DA is incredible. Sue me.
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As far as line and receivers .... well when Kosar was here, he had a really good OL, and Slaughter, Langhorn, and some guy named Newsome to throw to. He also had a 1-2 punch at RB with some guys named Mack and Byner. Because of that ... does that mean that any bum could have come in and done as well, if not better than he did?
It's possible, but we won't know. Just like we won't know with Anderson.
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Correct. However, from just looking at QB stats for this season, DA is ranked 17th. Both of Houstons QBs numbers are above his. What's that mean? I dunno...maybe nothing. Might mean the Browns had crappy records in the past.
He did what he was supposed to do. DA is NOT an outstanding QB in my mind. Far from it. He did an OKAY job this season, but we can certainly find a better QB.
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It seems like if you don't believe he's our guy around here you are stupid. The only thing that will tell us who is who is TIME.
Come on! This is beyond ironic. For every person who defends DA, there are around 10 who either ridicule him or want to send him packing. I wouldn't defend him nearly as much as I do except for the all the grief he gets around here. And most of the grief he gets is BS. First of all, he does have touch. And he is not nearly as inaccurate as people make him out to be. He has some things he struggles with, as do all QBs, especially young ones.........but he is nowhere near as bad as the mob makes him out to be.
Furthermore, I keep hearing that what he did was nothing because our team was so much better. BS! How do you know this? Frye didn't do squat in game one. And then we have the BQ will be a better QB crowd. Again, how the hell do you know? Let me answer that.............You don't know. Not a single one of you. He may end up doing better, but at this time, there is no proof. You just want him to be better. Wanting doesn't always equal reality. And perhaps it is "stupid" to pin all your hopes on "maybe."
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All we need to do is look at all the great QBs that strugled in the 1st. couple years and then ponder this...Will DA be one of those?
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Seriously, it will be Quinn. There is no way the fans let Quinn NOT take most of the starter reps if DA is still here, or not start with the starters in preseason, because that sends the wrong message that he may not be the future. Quinn is ready, he seemed to make all the right throws when he was in vs. SF, he looked fabulous in preseason, and the offseason is coming up where he can only improve more. Oh, yeah, he also sat out all year this season learning from Ken "The Mastermind" Dorsey..
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There is no way the fans let Quinn NOT take most of the starter reps
And please tell me how the fans have any control of who gets the most reps?
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Well........I don't really think he struggled. Hell..........hundreds of QBs would love to struggle like that.
He has some things he needs to work on and improve on. I doubt if his feet will ever be real good, but I do think he deserves another shot after what he accomplished this year.
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There is no way the fans let Quinn NOT take most of the starter reps if DA is still here, or not start with the starters in preseason, because that sends the wrong message that he may not be the future.
Uhmmm Michelle.......now do you see why?  
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There is no way the fans let Quinn NOT take most of the starter reps
And please tell me how the fans have any control of who gets the most reps?
Because, Quinn was selected to be our future and we gave up alot for him and there is just no way he sits out 2 years or half of next season at all....
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I believe he did a great job! Now was he the reason we didnt make the playoffs? Whos to say? But he is young! and has only a handfull of starts under his belt.
Yes he strugles with some aspects of his game, but he can only learn from his mistakes.jmo
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Yeah shot..........we are pretty much in agreement here. 
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I believe he did a great job! Now was he the reason we didnt make the playoffs? Whos to say? But he is young! and has only a handfull of starts under his belt.
Yes he strugles with some aspects of his game, but he can only learn from his mistakes.jmo
Actually, yes he was the reason we didn't make the playoffs. He threw 4 INT's and two of them turned into 13 points and we lost 19-14... 
Quinn is young too BTW, there is no reason Quinn can't improve either... 
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I believe he did a great job! Now was he the reason we didnt make the playoffs? Whos to say? But he is young! and has only a handfull of starts under his belt.
Yes he strugles with some aspects of his game, but he can only learn from his mistakes.jmo
Actually, yes he was the reason we didn't make the playoffs. He threw 4 INT's and two of them turned into 13 points and we lost 19-14...
Quinn is young too BTW, there is no reason Quinn can't improve either...
What about the AZ game? or the Oakland game? Or the second Pitt. game? Yes I was pissed at DA for the Cinnci. game, But I got over it.
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Actually, yes he was the reason we didn't make the playoffs. He threw 4 INT's and two of them turned into 13 points and we lost 19-14...
Actually, no. There were 5 other games that the Browns lost. If they win any one of them, we're in. It's not soley on DA that we are not in playoffs. Phil's 2nd kick in OAK isn't blocked, hell, the TO wasn't called before the first one...KW actually gets the force out call in AZ. Any number of things go the Browns' way and we're talking about who's going to the game in SD.
As for who our starter will be in 2008....no frickin' clue. We'll find out more when we see them in camp, which is MONTHS away.
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Quinn is ready, he seemed to make all the right throws when he was in vs. SF,
Wow ..... all 8 throws? Make room in the Hall of Fame!
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Brady Quinn. Smart, mobile, accurate, confident and highly invested in.
I liked what I saw of him in limited time. I was hoping he would have stayed in today, since we were ahead and the game wasn't affecting the season. We won anyways, so good enough. Now go Indy!
They COULDN'T let him play TOO long!
If the rest of the league got a GOOD LOOK at our "QB of the future" they might realise just how little DA really means to us in the grand scheme of things.
We really don't want to show them that untill AFTER DA is gone. Gotta keep his value high for the off season ya know...........
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And Pittsburgh averaged 190 yards/game passing for the season. BFD.
If I take the middle of Peyton Manning's year, he threw 11 Tds and 11 INTs in October and November. He sucks. Indy better get ready for the Jim Sorgi era.
Tom Brady started the year on fire .... but did you know that he threw 1/2 of his picks in December? Also, after averaging over 3 TD passes per game in September and November, and a gaudy 4 in October, he came crashing back to Earth with only 2.2 per game in December. Clearly he's on the decline ... and New England better wake up before it's too late.
Romo was up and down this year. He had 2 months where he actually threw more INTs than TDs. Better ditch him too,
I think that it remains to be seen what will happen in a fair training camp competition. I also think that it remains to be seen what will/will not happen if/when Quinn gets his shot.
thank you for taking the stats out of context, we all know romo, brady and manning are proven QB's with pro bowls under thier belt. DA isn't. if i wanted to take stats out of context i would have sald last 9 or 7 games then it would put the INTs in my favor, but i didn't.
brady was sooo bad 9tds and 3 ints in DEC. thanks for skewing that.
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Would you agree that, over the years, the Browns have had some good teams, and some bad teams ....... and some really bad teams ....... and some really outstanding teams?
If we look at all of those previous Browns teams ...... the good, bad, and ugly ..... exactly 1 QB, exactly 1 time, had more TD passes than DA did this year.
If "any QB" could do what DA did this year ... given that we have had some really, really good teams (or maybe even more talented) in the past ..... why haven't they?
please point out when we have had a really good team in the new browns era . . . really. This is the first year we have had a decent line since the team left town, this is the first time we have had a rushing threat with 3 quality recivers since the team left town. your ehole permise is invalid.
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Did I say in the timeframe of 1999 to present only? . My love of this team goes back decades ..... not just a dozen or so years, so I don't think in terms of just the post Modell years.
People can talk about how the team helps the QB ..... but the reverse is also true. Very rarely, if ever does a player do it alone ..... especially at QB. If it was as easy as some make it out to be ..... chances are that some other "average Browns QB" would have fallen into it before now. However ...... the only 2 players to throw for at least 29 TDs in a season in a Browns uniform EVER are (NFL MVP) Brin Sipe ... and Derek Anderson. That's it. No one else managed to "luck into" the same performance .... despite having some comparably talented teams throughout the decades.
Anderson might turn out to be a one year wonder. Then again .... he might not. Brady Quinn might turn out to be Paul McDonald. Who knows?
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Mike Phipps would have been the stronger comparison. And, of course, there was a more recent first round QB who had plenty of supporters and still busted....... Gawd..........I hope not!
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Well our 2007 season is over - I've given DA his due for the job well done in the 07 season. Now its time to move on into the 08 season and get this team stronger.
We don't really have a dilemma nor a QB controversy.
BQ is our franchise QB of choice and he seems to be developing as expected. With DA doing well the FO, coaches have no reason to patronize the top pick when asked about him...if anything - if they thought DA was our Franchise QB they would want to stifle the appearance of any development.
The day after the season is over - RAC goes on record and states bring on the offers for DA. If they aren't something that turns our heads we are more than happy to keep him here. If they are something that makes us go Ooooo - he's as good as gone (that last phrase was all me and not stated by RAC "he's as good as gone" )
The team most definately likes DA and would follow him as a leader. I think they also would do the same if BQ was at the helm as well....as long as there is production.
But DA states himself - Part of me wants to stay here??? I'm thinking who talks like that...maybe a UFA might but a RFA? If DA thinks he is a stud QB...which I'm sure he does as QBs should have confidence. He thinks that we will tender him and somebody will throw a big contract his way.
That would be the key...obviously if we don't sign him long term and just tender him - 100% we are willing to let him go for the price of compensation.
As Vers stated - not in these exact words, but I don't think I'm misrepresenting his post. We'd be a fool to let DA walk if weren't certain about the development of BQ.
This Regime has shown nothing but good judgment and evaluations (oh sure nothing is perfect) regarding the overall building of the team. They opened the "Competition" as they felt one of the two young QBs was heads taller than the other. I heard that in some quotes - something about they think one of the two (DA n Frye) stands out on getting more out of the new playbook that we had. I immediately thought - Oh they are definately talking about Frye thinking that we had a lot of moving pockets and roll outs in our play book and CF definately stood out over DA on the move. But in hind sight I now see that they knew DA was the better QB and the guy they wanted to start and be the backup to their new Franchise QB when he was ready.
DA exceeded all expectations of his play. And because of many circumstances including the miraculous development of our OL, Weapons and yes the fact that DA could make many of the throws necessary to produce. Our Offense was the best that we have seen for decades. Its hard to look at the sum total of the offense and let DA go. But its easy to look at the individual and let him go - IF AND ONLY IF - the compensation is there!
Yes, If BQ was the 6th round pick and DA was the first round pick - DA would probably be given the ball and told - He's our starter. BQ would have to wait for an injury to get his opportunity. But the fact is this. BQ is the 1st round pick and DA is the 6th. All this means is that BQ will get the opportunity to compete for the QB job. Whether he gets the starting job or not will only be predicated on evaluations of play. What he most definately will get is the opportunity to compete.
As it stands now in that competition - BQ should win out.
DA just didn't show the improvement he should have in the 2nd half of the season. I thought his first 7 games were very promising and felt that was the harder part of our season. I did expect improvements in his game - instead as he worked on some areas there were fall backs in others. One of his best passes and its almost undefensible is the Deep out. It just wasn't there for the 2nd half. I know weather played a part in it - but we had windy days in the first half.
Another thing that bothers me is the insisting that he should be considered a Rookie after all he never was a starter before...but he is not. He's a 3rd year player when its expected in almost all positions to be the year to get it. He also had the experience of Starting 3 games and getting action in 2 others last season. He was no virgin.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. DA is DA no more and no less. Statistically which is not the tell all but he's the 18th ranked QB in QB rating. And I'd have to say that is just about what he is...The 18th best QB in the NFL. Which btw means he's better than around 14 other starters in the NFL so in no way am I trying to belittle him. I do think he's a starting NFL QB. I don't like how he finished up and it wasn't all do to teams game planning against him. With our weapons and the fact we put 51 up on the Bengals our 2nd game. We were facing a lot of 7 in the box...after all it was around game 6 or so in a Lewis interview who stated so.
As happy go lucky and carefree that DA seems to exhume in personality and character. I think he tightens up with pressure...this is a big factor and observation for me.
a. He stunk to high heaven in the Pre-Season when the door was being left wide open for him to win the QB job. So much so that the FO and RAC had no other alternative but to give the starting job to Frye and they did so reluctantly.
b. After we saw Frye simply regressed as the fact that he wasn't handed the job took its toll. We simply dumped him on the market and cleared the way for DA. It was mentioned more than once that getting rid of Frye helped DA tremendously as he didn't have to look over his shoulder. Confidence and good play was highly attributed to that fact. Of course there was some aid to BQ in that move as well. So he can take the #2 reps and to make room for Dorsey to be a mentor to BQ.
c. When it was apparent after 8 games we were more than in the playoff hunt as our cakewalk part of our schedule was in the 2nd half. He seemed to tighten up and folded under pressure. Oh not totally, but overall he did. I'm no stat guy but I would have to expect his QB rating those last 8 games to be under 70. If he did that the first 8...we probably wouldn't be talking about DA at all as BQ would have taken over. But to me I saw him fold under pressure time and time again.
How can I say he's a NFL QB and then state what I am above? Cause he would have his moments and did do well in the 4th qtr to dig his way out of some holes. But in someways thats when all the pressure was relieved...We're down there are no expectations to win...he would be at his best and did produce which in my eyes does get him a nod as a NFL starting QB.
Footwork...I get a laugh from some who think only they can evaluate. But footwork probably with all football is important but none more than in a QB cause he touches the ball all the time.
DA has a problem with his footwork. Especially with any lateral movement - big or small. If he diverts from his - straight drop back style and step up throw - he would get lost and not regain his feet in time to make an accurate throw. Technique wise with footwork he is horrible. Can he get better. Yes, but I think with much limitations as I see the bulk of the problem being a physical problem with having very big feet!
I think down the stretch (last 8 games) although our protection held up there was definately much more pressure put on DA where he had to make small leteral moves in the pocket. Usually it spelled disaster.
I'm not trying to say he sucks...cause he doesn't. But I'm expressing my opinion on why I don't think he's our Franchise QB to take us into the playoffs and get us big wins in tough games againts the toughest Defenses! His make something out of nothing abilities are almost non-existing. Again needed to play the toughest teams in the NFL!
These are the reasons and I'll get into more if necessary why I feel if we have two QBs next season...BQ will be the starter and DA the Backup. This is why I feel if we get a first day draft pick for DA...we should take it. I also feel that with the OL we now have the need of 2 starting QBs is not so great. The years of sending 1, 2, 3 QBs on the IR are finally over thank Goodness 
Well got to run for my traditional Winter New Years Golf date Yes I am crazy 
Happy New Year ALL...blessings to you and your families!!!
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Ask RAC because his opinion is the only one that matters.
Just thought I should repeat myself here.
What?? These people don't actually know who will start? I'm in total shock. 
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Welcome to my world  I know there will be 1,860,512 posts about the QB deadbate before the season starts but I will still be shocked by all the cavemen banging each other over the head with their clubs trying to change each others minds 
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Sort of like DA actually. He'll come out on one drive and be deadly accurate. Then come out the next drive looking like he's never played in the NFL his entire life.
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good post- that is probably how it will play out.
It just makes too much sense. If RAC and the FO are comfortable with Quinn and his development then they should have no problem letting Anderson walk for a first and third round pick. Heck, i would let RAC and DA both walk for the overall number one pick (if there is any truth to rumor of Parcells wanting RAC)
Some said drafting Quinn, if it was a mistake, would set this franchise back years and years. Well, if the FO screws up this decision- same story, different version. I am glad my job isn't on the line with this decision- heads will roll if they get it wrong.
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Winslow sees Quinn as starter By Sean McClelland Staff Writer Monday, December 31, 2007 BEREA — Browns tight end Kellen Winslow is not one to mince words. He remained true to form Monday on the subject of which quarterback will lead the team . While lobbying for neither, Winslow thinks Brady Quinn eventually will get the nod over Derek Anderson, who struggled down the stretch but generally starred in his first season as a starter. "You know how it works, man," Winslow said as the Browns cleaned out their lockers a day after falling short of the playoffs despite finishing 10-6. "We drafted (Quinn). He's probably going to play, so we'll see what happens. Derek's a great guy, but that's just the way this business works. You draft a guy, especially in the first round, he's playing." The Browns gave their 2008 first-round draft choice to Dallas last April for the right to move back into the first round and select Quinn. The rookie from Notre Dame took his first NFL snaps in Sunday's 20-7 win over the San Francisco 49ers, charging onto the field to a loud ovation. While Anderson was having his bruised right pinky finger X-rayed, Quinn drove the Browns to a field goal, looking sharp with three consecutive completions. He fired a potential touchdown pass to Winslow, who dropped it. Quinn is a future star, the Browns think. What to do with Anderson is the question . He's a restricted free agent, which means they can keep him by matching any offer . They could sign him to a long-term deal, but do they want to put that kind of roadblock in Quinn's path? Anderson, who said he hopes to return, is driving to Montana today, then home to Oregon. On the way, he'll probably contemplate his immediate future and wonder why 29 touchdown passes, one short of Brian Sipe's franchise record, were not enough to get all the fans on his side. "Derek was slinging it," Winslow said. "This is a dynamic offense, but we still could have done more." Contact this reporter at 225-2408 or smcclelland@DaytonDailyNews.com.http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/browns/2007/12/31/ddn010108browns.html
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We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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Winslow ain't done yet.. he's talked to ESPN too.. web page Browns have difficult decision to make with breakout QB star Anderson ESPN.com news services Updated: January 1, 2008, 9:55 AM ET BEREA, Ohio -- The Browns are about to embark on an important offseason with several crucial decisions, none bigger than at quarterback. If anybody is interested in him, we'll just have to see how it goes. Sometimes people can make you an offer and you can say, 'No, I think I'm going to stay with what I got.' Sometimes they make you an offer and you say, 'Oooohhh.' --Romeo Crennel Derek Anderson, the former sixth-round pick who began '07 as Charlie Frye's backup and ended it as a Pro Bowl alternate, is scheduled to become a restricted free agent. The team has several options with Anderson, who passed for 3,787 yards and 29 touchdowns but also had 19 interceptions. Complicating matters is that Brady Quinn, he of the Notre Dame pedigree and runway model looks, also is on Cleveland's roster and the Browns gave up their 2008 first-round draft pick to Dallas in order to get him. Needing to fill other holes, especially on a defense that struggled with injuries all season, the Browns may be willing to part with Anderson. They'll listen to offers. "If anybody is interested in him, we'll just have to see how it goes," Browns head coach Romeo Crennel said. "Sometimes people can make you an offer and you can say, 'No, I think I'm going to stay with what I got.' Sometimes they make you an offer and you say, 'Oooohhh."' The Cleveland Plain Dealer, citing an unnamed source, reported Tuesday that the Browns' current plan is for Anderson to be on the 2008 roster. By most accounts, Cleveland's season was a smashing success (remember, we're talking the Browns here). Problem was, 10 wins weren't enough to make it to the AFC playoffs (can you say loss to the Bengals?). Cleveland became just the fifth team to miss the postseason despite winning 10 games. The Imperfect Tens Year Team Record Result '07 Browns 10-6 2nd, AFC North '05 Chiefs 10-6 2nd, AFC West '03 Dolphins 10-6 2nd, AFC East '91 Eagles 10-6 3rd, NFC East '91 49ers 10-6 3rd, NFC West "I'll listen, but I don't have to do anything," Crennel said, according to the Plain Dealer. "We're going to do what we think is best to improve the team. As we evaluate it over the next week, we'll decide what that will be. To this point, nobody's made an offer." If a small sampling of Cleveland's locker room is any indication, the Browns are divided. "I don't believe there's a quarterback controversy," wide receiver Joe Jurevicius said. "I don't buy into that. I just think Derek Anderson's our man." A few feet away, tight end Kellen Winslow seemed to side with Quinn. "We drafted the guy," he said. "He's probably going to play. Derek's a great guy, but that's just the way this business works." Surely, the Browns are developing a game plan for Anderson's situation. They can tender him a $2.5 million deal for next year. If another club offers Anderson a better deal, the Browns can either match it or receive first- and third-round draft picks from that team as compensation. The club also can place a franchise tag on Anderson, meaning his 2008 salary would be the average of the league's five highest-paid QBs. Any team wanting Anderson then would have to surrender two first-round picks. Also, the Browns can sign the 24-year-old Anderson to a long-term contract, but that would seem unlikely after just one quality season. For now, Anderson, good-natured and goofy, says he isn't sweating it. Cleveland has grown on him and he wants to stay. "I really like it here. I kind of enjoy it. I like my teammates, I like the city and part of me doesn't want to move," he said. That will be up to the Browns, who have waited for years to find one dependable quarterback and seem to have two. However, don't dare tell Crennel that he's got a quarterback controversy on his hands. Crennel, whose job seemed in jeopardy when the season opened, insists the Browns are in an enviable position with Anderson and Quinn, who made his pro debut in Sunday's win over San Francisco. "It's a good problem to have," he said. "I would much rather have too many good players, than not enough good players. We've had not enough good players around here for a while and we saw the results of that." With free agency still more than two months away, Crennel is already tired of questions about his quarterbacks. He was baffled when asked if he felt the need to give Anderson a season-ending vote of confidence. "Why would we think that? The guy just won 10 games for us. Does he need a vote of confidence?" Crennel snapped. "You guys are the ones who always bring up this quarterback thing. Just because you're a draft pick, that doesn't guarantee you success in the NFL. You have to go play and you have to prove it. "You have to have an opportunity to prove it. Anderson has done a good job with his opportunity. Brady will do a good job with his opportunity when he gets it."
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Well, looks like Anderson doesn't have Winslow on his side...
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Well, looks like Anderson doesn't have Winslow on his side...
probably doesnt have Edwards on his side either. DA lays them out to dry sometimes. There were many plays this year where I thought someone wasn't going to get up after jumping or going low to get a ball.
Anyways, I know it's been said on here and maybe even in this thread, but doesn't it bother you DA pimps that he regressed as the season went along. I was a Quinn fanatic at the beginning of the season, but Anderson grew on me and I really saw him being here for a few more years, but he hit a roadblock and stopped progressing. All the mistakes he was making in the first few weeks were still there, but all the good things began to disappear.
as much as I love what Anderson has done for this team... I think his stay here has come to an end. I am scared just as much as everyone else that Quinn could be a flop, but what if we don't strike while the iron is hot and get nothing for DA in return when we could have had two extra picks.
I really like Quinn's confidence and the way he manages his players. We've witnessed it very little in the NFL, but in college he made ND who they were. His best offensive weapons went undrafted if I remember right. I don't think Quinn will be the big play QB that Anderson was, but he will eat up a lot of time while working the team down the field, IMO. Then when the big play is there, he has the arm to make it.
I'm really interested to see what Quinn will do with all these weapons on offense. It's something he didn't have at ND. Sad to say though, he didn't have a defense at ND and he still doesn't have one in Cleveland. I hope we can address this because wins mean everything and if we don't fair well next season because of the defense, a lot of people will blame Quinn because he is the QB afterall.
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Actually what I got from those articles.
Winslow was more of :shrugging his shoulders: like there was nothing he can do about it and feels the outcome would be BQ...I didn't really see preference in his quotes.
JJ - sort of comes straight out and says DA is the man...but he's a great team player, if the FO n Coaching staff decide on BQ he will be in his corner 100%. I think this is basically indicitive of the type of team player JJ is. DA is his QB until it is said otherwise. He'll stick with him to the tens.
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probably doesnt have Edwards on his side either. DA lays them out to dry sometimes. There were many plays this year where I thought someone wasn't going to get up after jumping or going low to get a ball.
Something i have been saying for weeks.
I'm really dissapointed how dispite al the numbers we put up offensively, we never had a blow out where BQ could get any time in where a normal backup would. And under the 1 time where any other backup would have been benched because it was a meaninless game and the starter was getting hit, our backup didn't play in the name of preventing a contriversy.
I think we will have a QB situation this preseason because i think the rest of the league is smart enough to realize DA isn't worth a 1st and a 3rd.
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"Sometimes people can make you an offer and you can say, 'No, I think I'm going to stay with what I got.' Sometimes they make you an offer and you say, 'Oooohhh."
I think what this says is that (and I think this was a message to all GM's that might be interested), for now anyway, you are going to have to make us go 'Oooohhh' with your offer or we are fully prepared to keep him for another season.
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Kinda sounds like the tone of a man who is intending on doing whatever he can to keep his QB......yet leaving the door open for a big bidder to come get'im Or to simplify.....it sounds like a high-tender to me.
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Well, looks like Anderson doesn't have Winslow on his side...
probably doesnt have Edwards on his side either.
How in the world did you guys come up w/that? Sheesh!
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There's been a lot of mind readers on here lately.
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If DA is on the team, he will be the starter. IMO If DA is on the team it means that we either high tenured him, franchised him, (either way we gave him a big chunk of money which answers the business question), or beat out BQ outright. RAC leans toward the incumbent (ie. 2007). JMHO Go Brownies!!!
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If anybody is interested in him, we'll just have to see how it goes. Sometimes people can make you an offer and you can say, 'No, I think I'm going to stay with what I got.' Sometimes they make you an offer and you say, 'Oooohhh.'
--Romeo Crennel
It really does boil down to Crennel's comment above.
If there is one thing the franchise has been since Crennel and Savage were hired...it's "honest"...they don't lie.
It really does boil down to the quality of the offer.
If there is no acceptable offer, the Browns keep Anderson...if there is an acceptable offer, Anderson is traded and the Browns don't look back.
The question I keep hashing over is, will the Dolphins come knocking?
Of all the teams out there, they need a QB more today than they did when they did not pull the trigger and draft Quinn last year.
If the Dolphins are going to take advantage of Ted Ginn's speed and make the Dolphins 1st round pick of last season look like a much better decission, trading for Anderson would make a lot of since.
Anderson to Ted Ginn...hope the Tuna is dreaming
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