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Prominent Republican politicians have made the themes critical to their message to voters in the run up to the 2022 midterm elections. Doug Mastriano, the Republican nominee for governor in Pennsylvania, has argued that America is a Christian nation and that the separation of church and state is a “myth.” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Georgia hard-liner, declared: “We need to be the party of nationalism and I’m a Christian, and I say it proudly, we should be Christian Nationalists.” Amid a backlash, she doubled down and announced she would start selling “Christian Nationalist” shirts. Now Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis seems to be flirting with Christian nationalist rhetoric, as well.

They know a democracy with free and open elections threatened the likelihood of white, culturally conservative Christians maintaining privileged access to the levers of power. The takeaway is obvious: make it more difficult for the political opposition―non-conservatives, but implicitly racial and ethnic minorities―to vote.


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Lauren Boebart said she's all about Christian Nationalism. The other day she prayed for Joe Biden to Die...

Make of that what you wish..... but if that's christian nationalism, I want no part of it.


Wow, talk about extremism. On YOUR part, that is.

Let his days be numbered - as in how long he serves. And another take his office - like, having a different president. Fairly simple, except for the haters. No where that I can find did she pray for his death.

There is plenty more to it than that. But like I said, make of it what you will... And as typical, you made it seem unimportant...


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He also spent a good deal of time in front of the Senate going toe-to-toe with Al Gore's wife. As I recall, it was an instant classic.

Frank spent a lot of his time sounding the alarm. Censorship of music, censorship of written word, book banning, theocratic influence in politics- he saw it as all the same... and all coming from the same dark place.

I do too.


It's the same naked lust for power and influence that has been at the core of Mankind since groups were formed. This time, it just happens to represent itself wrapped in holy cloth, carrying a cross in one hand, and an AR-15 in the other. Just another version of the same old thing, since time immemorial.

I don't need to look at the 'team.' I don't need to look at the specific trappings or iconography of each version. I look at the behavior.

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I was raised by a dude who lived through the WWII part of my History class.

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‘Hostile takeover’: the tiny Florida university targeted by Ron DeSantis

Governor’s latest shot in his war on woke is the shock appointment of rightwing trustees to progressive New College

New College of Florida started making history from the day it opened its doors to its first incoming class of 101 undergraduate students in 1964. It was the first institution of higher education in Florida – which was once part of the slave-owning Confederacy – to pioneer an open admissions policy committing the school not to discriminate based on “race, creed, national origin, or cultural status”.

The founding principles of the college emphasized freedom of inquiry and the eminent historian and philosopher Arnold Toynbee was lured out of retirement to join the fledgling institution’s charter faculty. New College – which became a public institution when it joined Florida’s state university system in 1975 – soon established itself as one of America’s premier liberal arts schools.
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Now New College may again be on the verge of making history – but of a very different sort.

Its picturesque seaside campus in the city of Sarasota, Florida, finds itself in the crosshairs of rightwing Republican state governor Ron DeSantis’s latest culture wars crusade, in this instance to destroy its unofficial reputation as a haven for approximately 650 generally progressive-leaning students, about half of whom identify themselves as non-heterosexual.

Widely expected to challenge Donald Trump for the Republican party’s presidential nomination for the 2024 election, DeSantis famously declared “to the woke mob” on the night of his re-election victory last November that “Florida is where woke goes to die.”

To that end, he has taken on Disney for its chief executive officer’s announcement last March that the corporation would pause all political donations within Florida after the state legislature enacted a so-called “Don’t Say Gay” bill that banned the teaching of lessons on sexual orientation and gender identity to public school students in the third grade or younger.

The 44-year-old DeSantis has also lately focused increasing attention on educational issues. Last year he unsuccessfully tried to bar University of Florida faculty members from testifying in criminal court trials as expert witnesses for defense attorneys. Earlier this month, he banned the teaching of an advanced placement African Studies course in all public high schools in the state because some of the course material allegedly used Black history to push a political agenda that he said was tantamount to “indoctrination”.

And New College is also firmly in his sights.

DeSantis’s office issued a statement on the first Friday of the new year announcing six gubernatorial appointments to New College’s 13-member board of trustees, and some of the names stunned students and faculty members alike.

They included Christopher Rufo, a conservative activist who has spearheaded the ongoing attack on the supposed teaching of critical race theory in primary and secondary schools; Matthew Spalding, a professor and dean at a private, conservative Christian school in Michigan called Hillsdale College that was often touted by the late Rush Limbaugh on his popular radio talk show as the kind of university his listeners should send their teenagers to; and Charles Kesler, a professor at Claremont McKenna College in southern California and editor of the conservative publication the Claremont Review of Books.

Almost no one at the campus saw that one coming. “I was completely blindsided,” said Steven Shipman, a professor of physical chemistry and president of the college’s faculty union. “I basically thought that we’re such a small institution that the governor would have other priorities.”

Rufo, a senior fellow at a conservative thinktank called the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, all but declared war on New College in a barrage of tweets and press interviews in the initial days of 2023. In an interview with a New York Times columnist, the 38-year-old alumnus of Georgetown University set out his goals and those of his fellow DeSantis-appointed trustees in unequivocal language: “We want to provide an alternative for conservative families in the state of Florida to say there is a public university that reflects your values.”

Rufo gleefully invoked military metaphors on Twitter to describe his tactical plans as a future trustee of New College. He announced plans to tour the campus soon with “our landing team”, and on 6 January when DeSantis’s office issued the bolt-from-the-blue statement about the future membership of the College’s board of trustees, Rufo tweeted that “we are over the walls and ready to transform higher education from within”.

Some academics specializing in issues related to higher education say they have never seen a scorched-earth assault on a college or university for apparently political reasons that remotely approaches what is facing New College today.

In his first campaign for the governorship of California in 1966, Ronald Reagan reserved some of his ire for the University of California’s flagship campus, which he described as “that mess at Berkeley” where the radical free speech movement had flourished. He fired the president of the University of California’s board of regents at the first meeting of the panel Reagan attended in 1967 as the state’s freshly inaugurated governor.

But Berkeley survived that episode with its reputation intact, and the events of 56 years ago are small beer compared to what is currently unfolding in the Sunshine State, according to one scholar.

“DeSantis makes Reagan look like an advocate for academic freedom,” said Brian Rosenberg, a visiting professor at the Harvard Graduate School of Education and president emeritus of Minnesota’s Macalester College. “I’ve never seen a case of a governor, who is building a political platform around being a social warrior, send in a team with a mandate to change everything from the school’s curriculum to its departments and its faculty.”

Some New College alumni are among its biggest boosters. X González, who uses they/them pronouns, graduated in May 2022 with a bachelor’s degree in liberal arts, and cherished the school’s tolerance of diverse gender identities and the freedom to design their own area of concentration if none of the more than 50 existing majors on offer suited their academic curiosity and ambition.

González also really liked the fact that instead of giving students a grade, faculty members produce detailed evaluations in writing of each student under their supervision. “It was so dynamically better than any other situation I could have encountered,” said the 23-year-old survivor of the Parkland school shooting, which killed three staff members and 14 students. “New College is such a transparently trans and queer school, and that’s one of the reasons why DeSantis decided to stage this hostile takeover.”

The starkly contrasting views of what New College should stand for came to a head on campus last Wednesday when Rufo and another DeSantis-appointed trustee met with faculty members and students in separate sessions. Dressed in a well-tailored blue business suit and sporting a neatly trimmed beard, Rufo drastically toned down his rhetoric and cast himself as a lifelong apostle for a liberal arts education.
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“I don’t want my views to be the new stifling orthodoxy on campus,” he told faculty members amid some audible snickering in the auditorium. “We want to create space for conservative students, liberal students, Marxist students. We have to have the courage to disagree with each other and live out the democratic process.”

But some faculty members and students indicated they weren’t going to be drinking that Kool-Aid anytime soon. “Their rhetoric focuses on pushing their Christian and anti-science agendas while pretending to be fighting for free speech and diversity of opinions,” said Riley Wood, 19, a second-year computer sciences student who posed a question to Rufo.

Wood added: “Their belief in open debate is in fact just a convenient frame for the forcible introduction of rightwing ideology into the school – and it will be dropped as soon as it fails to serve that goal.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/29/ron-desantis-florida-university-new-college-woke-war


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Do you have a psychic website yet or still the old school 800 number?

I suppose that's all you got out of the article.


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Didn't really read the article. Skimmed and skimmed trying to get to any substance related to the headline... Finally discovered it was a bunch of snowflakes protesting any alternative opinions among their board members, or some dumb $h*#. Same old, same old.

Articles slamming DeSantis are plastered all over the web everyday. It's the left's all-out effort to stop him (insert screaming-bloody-murder emoji)... although Biden / Harris could likely lose to a watermelon and a used rubberband in '24.


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Yes, a governor controlling and appointing the board of a university to control the curriculum is nothing to you. Having a politician involved in dictating political ideology rule universities must be something you support.


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Now you're catching on.

Yes. A publicly funded educational institution's curriculum should not be decided by only woke-progressive board members. Not that it's a surprise to see them cry like babies when there is any threat that their twisted idea of #diversity is actually ordered to become #diverse.

Also no surprise to see the media use headlines like "Hostile Takeover". rofl

Can't make this stuff up.


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While it seems downplaying a governor taking over how a university is ran can be made up.


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It's actually his job. It's a publicly-funded institution. Not that any of the facts matter when people's feelings get hurt.

"I’m worried students are going to leave because they won’t feel safe here any longer."

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Sure. While Florida has been ran by Republicans for a very long time and no other Republican governor has considered it "their job" to interfere in such things. As adults students can chose to go to schools that they desire who teach and specialize in their desired curriculum. Until now. So if it's "his job" why has no other Florida Republican governor taken such steps? And then one would have to ignore who he put in place and their backgrounds to claim this is nothing more than a political stunt.

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They included Christopher Rufo, a conservative activist who has spearheaded the ongoing attack on the supposed teaching of critical race theory in primary and secondary schools; Matthew Spalding, a professor and dean at a private, conservative Christian school in Michigan called Hillsdale College that was often touted by the late Rush Limbaugh on his popular radio talk show as the kind of university his listeners should send their teenagers to; and Charles Kesler, a professor at Claremont McKenna College in southern California and editor of the conservative publication the Claremont Review of Books.

So I'm not sure if you're just fooling yourself or being purposefully obtuse at this juncture.


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Florida lawmakers to vote on plan to give DeSantis new power over Disney

Florida lawmakers are expected to vote Thursday on a proposal to give Gov. Ron DeSantis new power over the state’s most iconic theme parks amid his ongoing feud with Disney.

Under a fast-tracked bill that could be headed to the Republican governor’s desk by the end of the week, the state would take over the Reedy Creek Improvement District, the 55-year-old government body that has effectively given Disney control over the land around its Orlando-area theme parks. The district’s existing board, made up of individuals with close ties to Disney, would be replaced by a five-member board hand-picked by DeSantis.

The state House, where Republicans hold a supermajority, will take up the bill Thursday with a vote by the state Senate likely within the next 36 hours. If the measure passes the GOP-led legislature, it will go to DeSantis for final approval. He is expected to sign it.

“There’s a new sheriff in town, and that’s just the way it’s going to be,” DeSantis said at Wednesday news conference.

The move to take over Reedy Creek is the latest step in a yearlong spat between DeSantis and Disney over a bill to restrict certain classroom instruction about sexual orientation and gender identity. DeSantis signed the bill into law over the objections of Disney’s then-CEO Bob Chapek. Disney in a statement vowed to help get the law repealed or struck down by the courts.

DeSantis responded to the threat by calling on lawmakers to strip Disney of its special governing powers, which they did in a special session last year, voting to dissolve the Reedy Creek Improvement District at the end of May 2023.

However, while DeSantis quickly turned his takedown of Disney into fodder for stump speeches and fundraising emails, lawmakers at the time failed to address what would come next for the special district. Neither DeSantis nor lawmakers outlined a plan to unwind a half-century of Disney control or for how to ensure Orange and Osceola county residents wouldn’t be on the hook for funding Reedy Creek services or its $1 billion in debt. Amid the fallout, Reedy Creek told its bondholders that Florida could not dissolve the district without assuming its debts or it would violate the 1967 state law that created the district. Fitch Ratings Group put Reedy Creek Improvement District’s debt on watch for a negative bond rating.

The bill introduced this week in a special session of the Florida legislature would keep Reedy Creek alive, albeit under a new name, the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District, and with a DeSantis-aligned board in charge. The legislation makes clear that the changes to Reedy Creek should not affect the district’s existing debt or contracts and would extend the life of the district beyond June.

The final page of the 189-page bill states: “The Reedy Creek Improvement District is not dissolved as of June 1, 2023, but continues in full force and effect under its new name.”

In a statement to CNN earlier this week, Jeff Vahle, the president of Walt Disney World Resort, said the company is “monitoring the progression of the draft legislation, which is complex given the long history of the Reedy Creek Improvement District.”

“Disney works under a number of different models and jurisdictions around the world, and regardless of the outcome, we remain committed to providing the highest quality experience for the millions of guests who visit each year,” Vahle said.

Michael Rinaldi, the head of local government ratings at Fitch, said the bill “appears to address key uncertainties created following last year’s dissolution legislation” and would likely resolve the negative bond rating watch.

The Reedy Creek special district encompasses about 25,000 acres in Orange and Osceola counties and includes four theme parks, two water parks, one sports complex, 175 lane miles of roadway, 67 miles of waterway and the cities of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, its website says. The arrangement has allowed Disney to grow into a massive mecca for family-friendly tourism and a primary driver of Central Florida’s economy, using the district’s unique borrowing and taxing powers to build infrastructure around the theme parks.

Under existing law, the board for Reedy Creek has been made up of landowners with close ties to Disney. The bill introduced Monday makes clear that none of the appointees chosen by the governor can be recent Disney employees or their relatives, nor that of a competitor. The state Senate, where Republicans also hold a supermajority, would have final approval of the appointees.

“We’re taking one problematic swamp and we’re creating another swamp by allowing for one person to appoint all five positions,” said Rep. Anna Eskamani, an Orlando Democrat who authored an unsuccessful amendment to get local elected leaders on the board. “And the only reason I can see is because Disney made the governor big mad by defending LGBTQ+ kids.”

The bill would keep many of the district’s existing powers, though it would end certain never-exercised capabilities to build an airport or a nuclear power plant and would limit the use of eminent domain outside the district’s boundaries to seize land that could be used to benefit Disney.

“These actions ensure a state-controlled district accountable to the people instead of a corporate-controlled kingdom,” DeSantis spokesman Jeremy Redfern said.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/09/politics/ron-desantis-florida-disney-bill/index.html

A private business disagrees with this legislation so he is trying to exact his revenge. That sounds eerily familiar. No wonder you think he would be sitting in the oval the next two terms. This is exactly the type of president some of you like. President McNasty.


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However, while DeSantis quickly turned his takedown of Disney into fodder for stump speeches and fundraising emails, lawmakers at the time failed to address what would come next for the special district. Neither DeSantis nor lawmakers outlined a plan to unwind a half-century of Disney control or for how to ensure Orange and Osceola county residents wouldn’t be on the hook for funding Reedy Creek services or its $1 billion in debt. Amid the fallout, Reedy Creek told its bondholders that Florida could not dissolve the district without assuming its debts or it would violate the 1967 state law that created the district. Fitch Ratings Group put Reedy Creek Improvement District’s debt on watch for a negative bond rating.

^This, right here^ could easily lead to DeSantis experiencing what we call, "The law of unintended consequences."

If his culture wars stunt results in FL assuming Reedy Creek's 1b in debt, this will blow up in his face. Millions of Floridians taking on this extra debt with no say in the matter? Well, we call that taxation without representation. Ain't gonna be crates of tea dumped into Apalachee Bay. Pitchforks and pyres, more likely.

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Just a question: Why is the Reedy Creek district in debt $1 billion dollars? It appears it's been in debt for half a century?

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And we're still hearing all the same whataboutisms today, no matter how many times they've been disproven. The Christian far right is and always will be a cult. I don't get it. I know so many so-called good Christians that don't believe in any of these far-right Christian extremist views, yet they fail to stand up and shout down the extremist in their ranks. But the way Jesus dealt with the money changers in the temple is how modern Christians should take their religion back from the hucksters, charlatans, and scum-ridden White Christian Nationalist movement (for the snowflakes in denial, the Christian Nationalists Movement), IMO. There is no place in American democracy for fascism or theocracy.

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Just a question: Why is the Reedy Creek district in debt $1 billion dollars? It appears it's been in debt for half a century?


1 billion in bond debt. Corporate bonds are a type of debt issued by companies and sold to investors in order to raise capital for the business. Disney has an average overall yearly debt of over 400 bill


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Exactly. The fund major improvements with bonds just like any other public entity.

There is a tax advantage to them because they can borrow money at lower interest rates.

If the state dissolves the district, they have to pay off or refinance the bonds.


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Sure seems like a "cluster". Who, What, Where, When, Why, and How?- JMHO, sure seems Disney got a sweetheart deal back in 70s to help grow Florida- thus, their advantage has lasted 50+ years and should never change- who owns the land- taxes paid on all Disney land- millions of acres. Current Gov has power AND is very popular and Fla is mostly conservatives- lots of old folks voting like me, smile, he has the power and chose to use some of it----time will tell if it was good idea. JMHO, I don't want sex education in elementary schools- some things can wait- hell, I'm 74 and can't keep up with all the "official types of sexes now"- but youngsters who are way smarter should be educated-- make sure they can read, add, type...and think first please.


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Which makes one wonder.... since Florida has been predominately run by Republican governors and legislatures for so long, why have none of them taken such steps before? I wonder if it's the debt attached to making this move that they have considered as more important than owing the libs? You do realize that none of this was an issue until Disney publicly disagreed with DeSantis "don't say gay" legislation, right?


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Oklahoma court considers whether to allow the US' first publicly funded Catholic school
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OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Oklahoma’s Republican attorney general urged the state’s highest court on Tuesday to stop the creation of what would be the nation’s first publicly funded Catholic charter school.

Attorney General Gentner Drummond argued the Oklahoma Statewide Virtual Charter School Board violated both the law and the state and federal constitutions when it voted 3-2 in June to approve the Catholic Archdiocese of Oklahoma City's application to establish the St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual Charter School.

“I think that they betrayed their oath of office,” Drummond told the nine-member court. “And they knew they betrayed their oath of office because I told them if they did that they would.”

The case is being closely watched because supporters of the school believe recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions have indicated the court is more open to public funds going to religious entities.

One of Oklahoma's high court justices asked Drummond if there aren't already examples of using taxpayer funds for religious purposes, such as Medicaid funding for patients who go to St. Anthony's Hospital, a Catholic health care provider in Oklahoma City.

Drummond said there is a distinct difference between a religious entity qualifying for state funding for a service it provides and the Catholic charter school, which became a public institution with the school board's vote.

“The state and church are intertwined as has never happened before,” Drummond said. He added that approving the school would open the door for public schools to teach Islamic doctrine or even Satanism.

Michael McGinley, an attorney for St. Isidore, argued that numerous private religious organizations receive state funding for providing services to students and that it's unconstitutional to reject the archdiocese's application simply because it is religious.

“We have a program that's open to everybody, except religious organizations,” he argued. “You can't do that.”

McGinley said the online school already has received hundreds of applications and hopes to receive its state funding on July 1. Classes are scheduled to begin in the fall. The school would be open to students throughout Oklahoma in kindergarten through grade 12.

The court did not indicate when it would rule.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahoma-court-considers-whether-allow-192250925.html


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Originally Posted by FATE
Now you're catching on.

Yes. A publicly funded educational institution's curriculum should not be decided by only woke-progressive board members. Not that it's a surprise to see them cry like babies when there is any threat that their twisted idea of #diversity is actually ordered to become #diverse.

Also no surprise to see the media use headlines like "Hostile Takeover". rofl

Can't make this stuff up.
Thanks for the laugh.

There is nobody more whining and pouting than unwoke conservatives who are so afraid that “the other” might actually get treated well.

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Now you're catching on.

Yes. A publicly funded educational institution's curriculum should not be decided by only woke-progressive board members. Not that it's a surprise to see them cry like babies when there is any threat that their twisted idea of #diversity is actually ordered to become #diverse.

Also no surprise to see the media use headlines like "Hostile Takeover". rofl

Can't make this stuff up.
Thanks for the laugh.

There is nobody more whining and pouting than unwoke conservatives who are so afraid that “the other” might actually get treated well.

Thanks for the tears, right on cue (14 months later).

It was actually a bunch of libtards whining and pouting about having a conservative voice in the mix. You know, screaming "no fair!", like they're all adolescent cry babies.

So, "the other" would be the unlikely event that someone actually understands the subject matter being discussed and uses their (bird)brain to respond.


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Now you're catching on.

Yes. A publicly funded educational institution's curriculum should not be decided by only woke-progressive board members. Not that it's a surprise to see them cry like babies when there is any threat that their twisted idea of #diversity is actually ordered to become #diverse.

Also no surprise to see the media use headlines like "Hostile Takeover". rofl

Can't make this stuff up.
Thanks for the laugh.

There is nobody more whining and pouting than unwoke conservatives who are so afraid that “the other” might actually get treated well.

Thanks for the tears, right on cue (14 months later).

It was actually a bunch of libtards whining and pouting about having a conservative voice in the mix. You know, screaming "no fair!", like they're all adolescent cry babies.

So, "the other" would be the unlikely event that someone actually understands the subject matter being discussed and uses their (bird)brain to respond.


Try harder next time. No street cred for drive-by posters without a lick of sense.


I'm so sick and tired of so called conservatives yelling and crying about everything and anything that doesn't go their way as being UNFAIR. TRUMP has perfected this crap and now everyone of those MAGA hacks are using it.

THE WORLD ISN'T FAIR generally speaking. YOU don't get your way by crying about it all the time. Geez, KNOCK it off already., It's getting disgusting watching grown men cry and whine all the time. That's all that Trump does and it's sad to see so many of his MAGA followers doing the same damn thing.

GROW the hell up.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Bird
Originally Posted by FATE
Now you're catching on.

Yes. A publicly funded educational institution's curriculum should not be decided by only woke-progressive board members. Not that it's a surprise to see them cry like babies when there is any threat that their twisted idea of #diversity is actually ordered to become #diverse.

Also no surprise to see the media use headlines like "Hostile Takeover". rofl

Can't make this stuff up.
Thanks for the laugh.

There is nobody more whining and pouting than unwoke conservatives who are so afraid that “the other” might actually get treated well.

Thanks for the tears, right on cue (14 months later).

It was actually a bunch of libtards whining and pouting about having a conservative voice in the mix. You know, screaming "no fair!", like they're all adolescent cry babies.

So, "the other" would be the unlikely event that someone actually understands the subject matter being discussed and uses their (bird)brain to respond.


Try harder next time. No street cred for drive-by posters without a lick of sense.


I'm so sick and tired of so called conservatives yelling and crying about everything and anything that doesn't go their way as being UNFAIR. TRUMP has perfected this crap and now everyone of those MAGA hacks are using it.

THE WORLD ISN'T FAIR generally speaking. YOU don't get your way by crying about it all the time. Geez, KNOCK it off already., It's getting disgusting watching grown men cry and whine all the time. That's all that Trump does and it's sad to see so many of his MAGA followers doing the same damn thing.

GROW the hell up.

Why is Daman talking about himself?


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Bird
Originally Posted by FATE
Now you're catching on.

Yes. A publicly funded educational institution's curriculum should not be decided by only woke-progressive board members. Not that it's a surprise to see them cry like babies when there is any threat that their twisted idea of #diversity is actually ordered to become #diverse.

Also no surprise to see the media use headlines like "Hostile Takeover". rofl

Can't make this stuff up.
Thanks for the laugh.

There is nobody more whining and pouting than unwoke conservatives who are so afraid that “the other” might actually get treated well.

Thanks for the tears, right on cue (14 months later).

It was actually a bunch of libtards whining and pouting about having a conservative voice in the mix. You know, screaming "no fair!", like they're all adolescent cry babies.

So, "the other" would be the unlikely event that someone actually understands the subject matter being discussed and uses their (bird)brain to respond.


Try harder next time. No street cred for drive-by posters without a lick of sense.


I'm so sick and tired of so called conservatives yelling and crying about everything and anything that doesn't go their way as being UNFAIR. TRUMP has perfected this crap and now everyone of those MAGA hacks are using it.

THE WORLD ISN'T FAIR generally speaking. YOU don't get your way by crying about it all the time. Geez, KNOCK it off already., It's getting disgusting watching grown men cry and whine all the time. That's all that Trump does and it's sad to see so many of his MAGA followers doing the same damn thing.

GROW the hell up.

Why is Daman talking about himself?

You never hear me talking about how things are so unfair.. NEVER. You hear Trump talk about it all the time... Damn near every fricking day. Just like the MAGA creeps in congress do. The other thing they do is project what they say and do, onto others.

Its people like you that do that Eve.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by EveDawg
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Bird
Originally Posted by FATE
Now you're catching on.

Yes. A publicly funded educational institution's curriculum should not be decided by only woke-progressive board members. Not that it's a surprise to see them cry like babies when there is any threat that their twisted idea of #diversity is actually ordered to become #diverse.

Also no surprise to see the media use headlines like "Hostile Takeover". rofl

Can't make this stuff up.
Thanks for the laugh.

There is nobody more whining and pouting than unwoke conservatives who are so afraid that “the other” might actually get treated well.

Thanks for the tears, right on cue (14 months later).

It was actually a bunch of libtards whining and pouting about having a conservative voice in the mix. You know, screaming "no fair!", like they're all adolescent cry babies.

So, "the other" would be the unlikely event that someone actually understands the subject matter being discussed and uses their (bird)brain to respond.


Try harder next time. No street cred for drive-by posters without a lick of sense.


I'm so sick and tired of so called conservatives yelling and crying about everything and anything that doesn't go their way as being UNFAIR. TRUMP has perfected this crap and now everyone of those MAGA hacks are using it.

THE WORLD ISN'T FAIR generally speaking. YOU don't get your way by crying about it all the time. Geez, KNOCK it off already., It's getting disgusting watching grown men cry and whine all the time. That's all that Trump does and it's sad to see so many of his MAGA followers doing the same damn thing.

GROW the hell up.

Why is Daman talking about himself?

You never hear me talking about how things are so unfair.. NEVER. You hear Trump talk about it all the time... Damn near every fricking day. Just like the MAGA creeps in congress do. The other thing they do is project what they say and do, onto others.

Its people like you that do that Eve.

No, its people like you and all the libtards in this thread. Just having a giant tantrum hissy fit cry fest. Its all you people do all day every day.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by EveDawg
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Bird
Originally Posted by FATE
Now you're catching on.

Yes. A publicly funded educational institution's curriculum should not be decided by only woke-progressive board members. Not that it's a surprise to see them cry like babies when there is any threat that their twisted idea of #diversity is actually ordered to become #diverse.

Also no surprise to see the media use headlines like "Hostile Takeover". rofl

Can't make this stuff up.
Thanks for the laugh.

There is nobody more whining and pouting than unwoke conservatives who are so afraid that “the other” might actually get treated well.

Thanks for the tears, right on cue (14 months later).

It was actually a bunch of libtards whining and pouting about having a conservative voice in the mix. You know, screaming "no fair!", like they're all adolescent cry babies.

So, "the other" would be the unlikely event that someone actually understands the subject matter being discussed and uses their (bird)brain to respond.


Try harder next time. No street cred for drive-by posters without a lick of sense.


I'm so sick and tired of so called conservatives yelling and crying about everything and anything that doesn't go their way as being UNFAIR. TRUMP has perfected this crap and now everyone of those MAGA hacks are using it.

THE WORLD ISN'T FAIR generally speaking. YOU don't get your way by crying about it all the time. Geez, KNOCK it off already., It's getting disgusting watching grown men cry and whine all the time. That's all that Trump does and it's sad to see so many of his MAGA followers doing the same damn thing.

GROW the hell up.

Why is Daman talking about himself?

You never hear me talking about how things are so unfair.. NEVER. You hear Trump talk about it all the time... Damn near every fricking day. Just like the MAGA creeps in congress do. The other thing they do is project what they say and do, onto others.

Its people like you that do that Eve.

Nope Daman.

You've got it bass-ackwards. AGAIN.


This was a story about libtards pooping their pants at the possibilities of having conservatives in on the decision-making process for curriculum.

Libtards are the ones crying because they didn't get their way. Libtards are the "grown men crying". Libtards are the ones screaming "no fair!"

So everything you typed is true... IF you take out Trump, MAGA and conservatives and insert "crybaby libtard".


I'm just going to start calling you George Costanza. Whatever you think you read -- it's almost always the opposite -- then you scream in the face of the wrong people while ignoring the egg on your face.


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Honestly, I think you could put just about anyone that affiliates themselves with a political party as a crybaby. All too frequently it seems that all either party does is complain about the other.

I can't really blame them. Both parties provide plenty of things to complain about.


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Yeah it’s a shame one party doesn’t complain about 90 some indictments. But they sure do complain about the judges and their families.


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No, its people like you and all the libtards in this thread. Just having a giant tantrum hissy fit cry fest. Its all you people do all day every day.

I didn't know trump was a libtard. He does nothing but whine about how he's the victim. When he loses it was rigged. When faced with criminal prosecution for his deeds it's a witch hunt. It's election interference. Your idol is the biggest whiner on the planet and not a word about it from you.


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Trump has just the Bible for you. And at low introductory price of just $59.99. Come on. You know you want one. Or are you waiting for the Kid Rock Bible to come out which includes his families meth recipe?


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When you have only seen possibly three Bibles during your entire life that's not a very high bar. But you're right, hearing him say something like that is hilarious.


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Three?

(Almost... maybe...) direct quote:

"Everybody needs a bible in their home, and believe me, I have many".

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He's had many wives too. Hopefully he is more faithful in his devotion to his Bible than he was and has been to them. naughtydevil

Many is a relative term.


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