Only one in ten people convicted of the crime trump was ever receive prison time. He shouldn't and won't get jail time. Being a disgusting human being is not a crime nor punishable with jail time.
On the other hand, Cohen got three years as part of a guilty plea deal. Normally one would expect he ringleader to get more, especially if they violate a gag order 10 times.
Cohen's sentence was based upon multiple charges, hence the sentencing time you see.
Personally, I'll be surprised if any incarceration is set down. 1st-time conviction/non-violent crime. Only 1 in 10 do time with this profile.
Judge Clemmy's sentence under that scenario: Fines to 100% cover the cost of the trial, 500 hours of public service. Orange coveralls, an endless supply of garbage bags, and a stick with a nail at the end. Clean up Central Park/Manhattan's subway system.
I can hear the catcalls already. Manhattanites play The Game hard.
Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.
Trump’s former campaign vice chairman, Rick Gates, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.
Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.
Trump’s former adviser and former campaign aide, Roger Stone, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.
Trump’s former adviser and former White House aide Peter Navarro, was charged, convicted, and is currently in prison.
Trump’s former campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.
The Trump Organization’s former CFO, Allen Weisselberg, was charged, convicted, and sentenced to prison.
Trump’s former White House national security advisor, Michael Flynn, was charged and convicted.
Trump’s former chief strategist, Steve Bannon, was charged with wire fraud and money laundering, in addition to a conviction in a contempt case similar to Navarro’s. He’s currently awaiting sentencing.
Though he was later acquitted at trial, Trump’s former inaugural committee chair, Tom Barrack, was charged with illegally lobbying Trump on behalf of a foreign government. (Elliot Broidy was the vice chair of Trump’s inaugural committee, and he found himself at the center of multiple controversies, and also pled guilty to federal charges related to illegal lobbying.)
Two lawyers associated with Trump’s post-defeat efforts, Kenneth Chesebro and Sidney Powell, have pleaded guilty to election-related crimes. And did I mention that former president’s business was itself found guilty of tax fraud? Because it was.
This does not include the fact that a jury held Trump liable for sexual abuse in a civil case.
What do all these people have in common? They are convicted felons who worked for a convicted felon.
"this is a disgrace, a conflicted judge, Biden did this."
Convicted felons along with a convicted ex-president. He still faces 54 more felony charges.
I disagree this time, North. Trump isn’t gonna go to jail for a class E felony. It’ll be a nasty fine and probation.
Would be funny seeing Trump with an ankle monitor though
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Cohen's sentence was based upon multiple charges, hence the sentencing time you see.
Personally, I'll be surprised if any incarceration is set down. 1st-time conviction/non-violent crime. Only 1 in 10 do time with this profile.
Judge Clemmy's sentence under that scenario: Fines to 100% cover the cost of the trial, 500 hours of public service. Orange coveralls, an endless supply of garbage bags, and a stick with a nail at the end. Clean up Central Park/Manhattan's subway system.
I can hear the catcalls already. Manhattanites play The Game hard.
I wonder if being president counts as community service. I wonder if Trump will find a way to get the public to ultimately pay for any fines.
I was kidding. I also have a somewhat sick feeling in my stomach that it's not quite as impossible as I would hope.
You mess with the "Bull," you get the horns. Fiercely Independent.
Only one in ten people convicted of the crime trump was ever receive prison time. He shouldn't and won't get jail time. Being a disgusting human being is not a crime nor punishable with jail time.
On the other hand, Cohen got three years as part of a guilty plea deal. Normally one would expect he ringleader to get more, especially if they violate a gag order 10 times.
Actually Cohen was charged for his own tax evading and other crimes not related to trump banging a porn star and hush money stuff. He was just another strong arm for Trump until he wasn’t. He got caught and was discarded like all the other fools that pledged their very soul to a corrupt pos president.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Incarceration in an actual prison or jail facility would be very difficult and unprecedented. You'd have to have secret service get their own access to the place and then wherever he would be placed would have to be safety "compliant." I have no idea how much expenses it would involve along with time and labor before he could even be incarcerated and then a lot of that would probably have to be undone when he gets out.
One of those problems you would hope would never actually be a problem, but here we are.
I imagine house arrest for some length of time followed by probation being the most likely scenario.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
Trump says he’s ok with jail time or house arrest. lol. Like he’s ok with releasing his tax returns. Or “l’ll absolutely testify” in the hush money trial. Anybody believing anything that comes out of his mouth is completely nuts. No wonder Hitler rose to power. He had millions of these total nut bags supporting and believing his crap.
Only one in ten people convicted of the crime trump was ever receive prison time. He shouldn't and won't get jail time. Being a disgusting human being is not a crime nor punishable with jail time.
On the other hand, Cohen got three years as part of a guilty plea deal. Normally one would expect he ringleader to get more, especially if they violate a gag order 10 times.
Actually Cohen was charged for his own tax evading and other crimes not related to trump banging a porn star and hush money stuff. He was just another strong arm for Trump until he wasn’t. He got caught and was discarded like all the other fools that pledged their very soul to a corrupt pos president.
Charges included the Porn star hush money.
COHEN, 51, of NEW YORK, NEW YORK, pleaded guilty to five counts of willful tax evasion; one count of making false statements to a bank; one count of causing an unlawful campaign contribution; and one count of making an excessive campaign contribution.
Forgetting that Trump didn't want a Bi Partisan deal for border security
Whether you’re a Democrat or Republican isn’t this a bit disingenuous? The first thing Biden did when he got in office was open the border. He not only encouraged a mass influx of illegals with his actions, he does nothing about it for 3.5 years of a four year term then proposes legislation to save face and help his prospects of reelection after a ton of damage has already been done. Why on earth would his opponents agree to something like that after so much damage has been done? And why in the hell would they want to help him get re-elected? You might as well ride out the last six months. What’s another six months after 3.5 years?
I just don’t understand how this can be considered a real pro-Biden argument. Someone help it make sense for me.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
Forgetting that Trump didn't want a Bi Partisan deal for border security
Whether you’re a Democrat or Republican isn’t this a bit disingenuous? The first thing Biden did when he got in office was open the border. He not only encouraged a mass influx of illegals with his actions, he does nothing about it for 3.5 years of a four year term then proposes legislation to save face and help his prospects of reelection after a ton of damage has already been done. Why on earth would his opponents agree to something like that after so much damage has been done? And why in the hell would they want to help him get re-elected? You might as well ride out the last six months. What’s another six months after 3.5 years?
I just don’t understand how this can be considered a real pro-Biden argument. Someone help it make sense for me.
Trump killed the best border bill we have had in DECADES. That makes HIM what? Concerned about the border crisis? Concerned about himself?
Countries globally have strict entry requirements to protect residents and maintain national security.
That brings up an entirely different issue which the bananas seem to ignore..
Bananas being the good people who visited justice upon criminal 45? Say what you want Peen, the legal system worked, and Trump was afforded every opportunity to prove himself innocent, yet found himself convicted by a jury of his peers. And they were his peers, he lived among them most of his life.
I disagree this time, North. Trump isn’t gonna go to jail for a class E felony. It’ll be a nasty fine and probation.
Would be funny seeing Trump with an ankle monitor though
Oh I think the judge will give him time, suspend it so it’s hanging over his head, and put him on house arrest with a monitor… but he’ll be allowed to travel for politics, so the 30% who admire his trash ass don’t rebel.
Here are some more people that will be added to trumps "badfellas" convict buddies.
Kenneth Chesebro, a right-wing attorney who helped devise the fake elector plot; Jim Troupis, a former Trump lawyer; and Michael Roman, a former Trump campaign official – are each facing a single forgery charge.
Trump can't travel to these 38 countries now that he's a convicted felon
Some of the countries are focal points of Trump's presidential campaign, like China and Israel.
Felons lose various rights upon being convicted, from their right to own a firearm to serving on a jury or voting — and former presidents aren't excluded from those restrictions.
Former President Donald Trump was found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying records in his New York hush money trial, making him a convicted felon. Now he'll have to navigate what that status means for his rights as any other American felon — but also as one worldwide.
That's because traveling is another right affected by felonies, with 38 nations — including the U.S. — either denying felons entry upfront or denying them if their criminal record is discovered, according to World Population Review. And with the public stage that Trump is on, that latter scenario would probably occur few and far between.
This may affect the Republican presidential front-runner's ability to fulfill his foreign duties if he's reelected come November. And although worldly leaders could make an exception in their travel bans for Trump, it's unclear which countries would be willing to do so, particularly as some of them have been on rocky ground with the former president.
For example, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and former President Trump clashed publicly, and Canada reserves the right to refuse entrance to felons upfront. Similarly, with Ukraine, felons are denied if discovered, and Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's tumultuous relationship escalated into the former's impeachment.
It's also worth noting that four of the G-7 nations have felon travel bans: Japan, the United Kingdom, Canada and the U.S. The group meets regularly to discuss international topics, and the unannounced 2025 date is set to be hosted in Canada. That would mean Prime Minister Trudeau would have to make a decision on bending his felon-travel ban for a potential President Trump or he'd exclude the leader from physical attendance.
Felons lose various rights upon being convicted, from their right to own a firearm to serving on a jury or voting — and former presidents aren't excluded from those restrictions.
Former President Donald Trump was found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying records in his New York hush money trial, making him a convicted felon. Now he'll have to navigate what that status means for his rights as any other American felon — but also as one worldwide.
That's because traveling is another right affected by felonies, with 38 nations — including the U.S. — either denying felons entry upfront or denying them if their criminal record is discovered, according to World Population Review. And with the public stage that Trump is on, that latter scenario would probably occur few and far between.
This may affect the Republican presidential front-runner's ability to fulfill his foreign duties if he's reelected come November. And although worldly leaders could make an exception in their travel bans for Trump, it's unclear which countries would be willing to do so, particularly as some of them have been on rocky ground with the former president.
For example, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and former President Trump clashed publicly, and Canada reserves the right to refuse entrance to felons upfront. Similarly, with Ukraine, felons are denied if discovered, and Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's tumultuous relationship escalated into the former's impeachment. President Joe Biden speaks as he meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Which foreign leaders do Biden and Trump get along with?
It's also worth noting that four of the G-7 nations have felon travel bans: Japan, the United Kingdom, Canada and the U.S. The group meets regularly to discuss international topics, and the unannounced 2025 date is set to be hosted in Canada. That would mean Prime Minister Trudeau would have to make a decision on bending his felon-travel ban for a potential President Trump or he'd exclude the leader from physical attendance.
Other countries included in the list are some that Trump has touted on the campaign trail as policy-related focal points such as Mexico and border laws, Israel and its war in Gaza, and "stopping Chinese espionage," according to his website. Mexico denies felons if discovered, while Israel and China deny them upfront.
Again, World Population Review says it's unlikely border officials will ask about a person's criminal record upon their arrival, but with Trump's public status they won't necessarily need to. And some only deny entry to the felons who are deemed a security risk.
Come November, here's the full list of countries that may have to decide if and how they'll change their current rules now that a former president is affected by them for the first time, with data from World Population Review.
Countries that don't allow convicted felons to enter:
Argentina Australia Canada China Cuba India Iran Israel Japan Kenya Macau New Zealand South Africa Taiwan United Kingdom United States
Countries that will deny entry to felons if discovered:
Brazil Cambodia Chile Dominican Republic Egypt Ethiopia Hong Kong Indonesia Ireland Malaysia Mexico Morocco Nepal Peru Philippines Singapore South Korea Tanzania Tunisia Turkey Ukraine United Arab Emirates
Refusal to acknowledge wrongdoing could affect Trump's sentencing, experts say Defendants hoping for lenient treatment at their sentencing are generally expected to take responsibility for their actions, even express remorse.
Author: Associated Press Published: 8:28 PM EDT June 3, 2024 Updated: 2:06 AM EDT June 4, 2024 Facebook NEW YORK — Donald Trump has had plenty to say since his hush money trial conviction last week.
He’s claimed the case was rigged, incorrectly linked President Joe Biden to the state prosecution, called the star witness against him a “sleazebag" and said the judge was a “devil" and “highly conflicted.”
What he hasn’t done is utter any variation of the words that might benefit him most come sentencing time next month: “I'm sorry.”
It’s a truism of the criminal justice system that defendants hoping for lenient treatment at their sentencing are expected to take responsibility for their actions, even express remorse. But that flies in the face of Trump's longtime refusal to acknowledge any wrongdoing, a tone that he often strikes to portray strength and present himself as a fighter under ceaseless attack. While the strategy may resonate with his most loyal political supporters, it failed during his New York criminal trial and could complicate his legal team's efforts to avoid a tough sentence.
“The fact, I think, that he has no remorse – quite the opposite, he continues to deny his guilt – is going to hurt him at sentencing," said Jeffrey Cohen, an associate professor at Boston College Law School and a former federal prosecutor in Massachusetts. "It’s one of the things that the judge can really point to that everybody is aware of — that he just denies this — and can use that as a strong basis for his sentence.”
Trump is set to be sentenced on July 11 by Judge Juan M. Merchan, who raised the specter of jail time during the trial after the former president racked up thousands of dollars in fines for violating a gag order. He has been the target of Trump's relentless ire.
The 34 felony counts of falsifying business records Trump was found guilty of are charges punishable by up to four years in prison. It’s not clear whether prosecutors intend to seek imprisonment — Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg dodged a question on that Thursday — or whether Merchan would sentence him behind bars even if that’s the recommendation.
As part of a broader, rambling broadside against the case, Trump has sought to downplay any concerns about his sentence, saying in a “Fox & Friends Weekend” interview that aired on Sunday that he was “OK” with the prospect of imprisonment or home confinement.
“I saw one of my lawyers the other day on television saying, ‘oh, no, you don’t want to do that’” to a former president. “I said, don’t, you know, beg for anything. It’s just the way it is.”
He will have the option to address the judge at his sentencing hearing though he is not required to do so, and some legal experts have said it would be inadvisable for him to speak. He did not testify in his own defense at the trial, something he later suggested had to do with concerns that prosecutors would try to catch him in a trivial falsehood.
“If he turns around and blames the court, attacks prosecutors, decries this as a witch hunt, lies — you should have no misgiving: There will be consequences and there should be consequences,” said Jeremy Saland, a former assistant district attorney in Manhattan.
In addition, Trump's constant attacks on the prosecutors, judge and court system and his aggressive trial strategy — outright denying claims of an extramarital affair by porn actor Stormy Daniels as well as involvement in the subsequent scheme to buy her silence — would make any change of tune at his sentencing seem disingenuous.
“I don’t see any real benefit of him speaking at sentencing because even if he did say something, he’s saying the exact opposite outside the courtroom and the judge is not unaware of that," Cohen said.
To be sure, there are multiple other factors that could tilt against a prison sentence — Trump's apparent lack of contrition notwithstanding. Merchan could conclude, for instance, that there's a strong societal interest against having a former, and potentially future, president in jail.
“Sometimes as a judge and a prosecutor, you have to look at the proverbial scoreboard and say, ‘That’s enough.' And that scoreboard here is a permanent brand that you'd see on the side of cattle of a big fat ‘F’ for felony," Saland said.
“It is far worse than any scarlet letter could ever be,” he added. “And no matter what he says, no matter how he spins it, no matter if it's a day in jail or not, he will always be a convicted felon. Period.”
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ex·co·ri·ate /ikˈskôrēˌāt,ekˈskôrēˌāt/
Excoriate, which first appeared in English in the 15th century, comes from "excoriatus," the past participle of the Late Latin verb excoriare, meaning "to strip off the hide."
To denounce or berate severely; flay verbally: He was excoriated for his mistakes.
Garland straight trapped in a "Wanna get away?" Snickers commercial.
Leave it to you to use Matt Gaetz as a reliable source of information. Who is next, MTG? This sounds very much like the fishing expedition they did on Joe Biden when they made all kinds of claims they couldn't back up in an effort to impeach him.
"Yeah, but look at where his daughter works."
"But he assembled the most qualified team to prosecute the case! Oh then humanity!"
Everything else was simply more hot air with nothing to substantiate any of it as per usual.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
If someone asks questions I'm treating them as "a reliable source of information"?? The reliable source of information was the horses mouth, the one that couldn't spit out anything but "naaaayy". Sometimes I wonder if you know how dumb you sound... Day times, night times.
Good to know you're just fine with DC and the DOJ assembling a team to prosecute a local crime in Manhattan.
There is zero evidence to show the DOJ assembled those people. They were assembled by a New York prosecutor. It's swhocking that an otherwise intelligent person can be so easily led around by the nose.
Can not say I'm surprised though.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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