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I know how to make this never happen again, it will be great for The US. Everyone who buys a gun has to take a drug test. Problem solved

I'll take him at his word

j/c

Now that Hunter has been charged and is being tried for buying a gun while being a drug addict, the only question I have is when are they going to do the same thing with the state of Florida?

You can "pass" legislation to reduce penalties for non-violent crimes in an attempt to help your son. A full pardon isn't the only way for a president to put his thumb on the scale. He could be working the judge on sentencing behind the scenes (through deniable intermediaries, of course.) There are lots of ways to work things to one's liking in those circles.

Trump might go full pardon. He's an irrational political amateur that doesn't listen to anybody. Biden knows how the game is played and his staff helps him work the optics. It's a dirty "game" regardless.

One can say I won't drop a nuke, and instead use indiscriminate carpet bombing without telling a lie.

Ahhh, the sweet scent of politics. ....Wait, no, that's the "Febreeze" they sprayed to cover the stench.

There's a conspiracy around every corner.

DOJ Charges

The way I read and interpret the charges, I suspect that there are a lot of people that have committed this crime.

"....unlawful user, addicted to, any stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance." is the exact language.

I could have some serious fun, parsing that. The fact that the statute does not have qualify a stimulant as "unlawful', means that any stimulant (i.e. caffeine) would also apply if you apply the concept of independent clauses.

Essentially, you smoke pot, or take someone else's pills, you could be charged. Again, I think the charge is too broad and does not apply since there was no other associated crime.

His crime is his last name.

That sounds like the same thing republicans have been saying about trump. Trump was proven to have committed those crimes by a jury of his peers. Not because of his name. From what I've been seeing about the Hunter Biden trial it seems as if he may be well on his way to facing that same fate.

A jury either finds you guilty of the crimes you're being tired for or not. A conviction or the lack of one is based on the evidence at trial. I think it's sad when people on either side try to take way from that fact by using excuses for the actions of the person in question.

Has anyone actually thought that the stupid stuff trump is pushing. I mean, Senator Menendez is being is in a whole lotta trouble and so is Hunter Biden. If Biden and the DOJ was what Trump would have you believe they are, neither would be in any trouble.

Then I’ll throw one out there.

The GOP investigated Hunter for 6 years and this is the only thing they could get him on. Possibly lying on an application to buy a gun. OMG horrendous behavior. Throw the book at him.

The only thing they've been able to get Trump on is related to his sex life. I mean if you want to use that logic. Shame on him. He used money intended to help him get elected to avoid something that would limit his chances of getting elected. It's interesting where they draw the lines.

Do you only get charged with DUI if you kill someone? Nobody getting hurt isn't really a viable defense.


Trump still sucks, but so does your post's logic.

Actually his crime is being so freaking stupid that he leaves a laptop laying around with enough evidence to send multiple people to prison. And then so stupid as to admit we was addicted to drugs during the timeframe in question (by using his addiction as an excuse for other actions )

And then, and this is top dawg pure awesome... SO STUPID that he publishes all of this in a book.

Yeah, he's being punished because he's a Biden.

How many people has the information on his laptop sent to prison?


So was trump convicted on 34 felony counts because he is trump?

"The only thing they've been able to get Trump on is related to his sex life."

The ONLY thng? Have you been drinking? They got him on a bunch of other stuff. Georgia, Jan 6, Stealing classified docs...

But simply because of Right Wing Judges like Cannon and the Supreme Court, all his cases are delayed. They gotta be terrified of what the results will be in those cases. Why else delay them?

If nothing else, this idiot STOLE sensitive documents .. That should be enough right there to kill his chances of EVER being elected.

You all watched the J6 Riot. Unless you are just fooling yourself, you saw him push his followers to attack the Capital. That's insurrection. That should be enough to stop him from holding office ever again.

We all heard the telephone call to Georgia. We know what he said. We know what he meant. He tried to steal an election by tampering with the results. That should be enough to stop him from Holding office ever.

The only thing we have him in INDEED.

so does the bull and his BS logic. They got trump on 34 counts of falsifying documents, he used campaign funds and avoided paying taxes like the sniveling creep he is. So did Cohen, it’s why Cohen went to jail. But explaining facts to the clueless is like trying to feed a baby that isn’t hungry.

I wasn't being literal. I was using your logic.

Yes, it was BS logic. That was the point I was illustrating.

Thanks for reinforcing that.

Guilty, on all accounts. Pull out the gallows. Or preferably the Guillotine. Libtard head rolls. We got him!

He got himself due to his actions. Nobody else "got him".

At least we don't have Joe Biden throwing a tantrum and blaming everyone else for it. That's a refreshing change of pace.

If Hunter gets off on parole we’ll see plenty of tantrums.

I have no idea what the average sentence is for such offenses. I'm sure that Hunter's record or the lack of one would enter into the equation. I don't have an issue with it either way if it falls into the standard guidelines under similar conditions. But then I feel the same way about the trump trial so that must make me a libtard.

I’m pretty sure the prosecution will be asking for the max sentencing. We’ll see.

It's not unusual for the prosecution to ask for a heavy sentence while the defense asks for a very lenient one. Most often the judges decision falls somewhere in the middle.

Already, Speaker Johnson came out and said that there was overwhelming evidence that Hunter Biden was guilty so it stand to reason he'd be convicted.

Then the damn fool went on to say that wasn't the case in the Trump Hush Money case (why do they call it that, it's really the election tampering case, oh well)


They buried Trump in a mountain of evidence and a jury, picked in part by the Defense, found him guilty on 34 counts. Why is a man that claims to be christian but then goes out and lies about trump and this case as well as others.


He claims to be a christian while the fool he supports actively spreads hate.

Something a miss in his mind.

I would have expected no less considering the source.

What about Trump, Trump Trump Trump Trump.

He was the most corrupt president of all time. Not even nixon was that bad.

So yeah, until he's out of the picture, it's TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP as well as the fools that defend and follow him.

He definitely appears to be the worst at hiding how corrupt he is.

Does that mean there's no chance of you discussing other politicians/issues without bringing Trump to the forefront? I guess if your only tool is a hammer, all of your problems look like nails.

Seriously?
Like it or not, there are only 2 options to be our next president - trump or biden
Any discussion about either inevitably results in a comparison with the other.

Honestly, I think it should.

Sorry. I thought this thread was about Hunter Biden's gun case.

The difference is Hunter's case was pretty cut and dried. Not a lot of wiggle room.

With the President, there was some wiggle room and everything about the case seemed stacked against him. I am not saying anything against the verdict, but there seems to be a case on appeal. With Hunter, I don't see any way out of that.

Either way or what side you are on, it's a sorry state we find ourselves.

Funny that you'd frame it as you have.

Conversely, I found that in both cases, a slam-dunk preponderance of evidence won the day for the prosecution in both cases.
I saw the same American system of Justice meting out consistent due process to two different people, under two different sets of circumstances... bringing about similar results.

In both cases, Grand Juries saw fit to recommend trial. In both cases, 12 American citizens (agreed upon by both Prosecution and Defense) rendered guilty verdicts under the same constitutional rules/restraints.

As far as I'm concerned, s# worked as it was designed to, both times.
I'm absolutely OK with how both these trials turned out.

Between you & me: only you seem to have a problem with similar/equitable results under the same legal system... as evidenced by your quibbles.
In contrast, I focus the forum's participants upon my complete acceptance of both verdicts as examples of America's due process being played out properly.

Hunter Biden is now a convicted felon.
Donald Trump is now a convicted felon.

I'm OK with the reality of both stories... without equivocation.
Your reality seems to be the one expressing a need of "wiggle room."


.02.

Let's find out, who do you want to talk about?

You know, I keep hearing that but when looking at the verdicts it doesn't add up.

Trump had 34 charges against him. It took that jury 13 hours to find him guilty on those 34 charges. That's an average of just under 23 minutes per charge. With Hunter there were 3 charges that took the jury 3 hours to arrive at a guilty verdict. That's 1 hour per charge. It seems when comparing the two trials the trump jury was far more convinced of his guilt based on the time it took them to arrive on a guilty verdict per charge.

And here it is. Prominent Republicans standing up for Hunter...................

Massie speaks out against Hunter Biden verdict

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) denounced Hunter Biden’s conviction on charges that he illegally purchased a gun Tuesday.

“Hunter might deserve to be in jail for something, but purchasing a gun is not it,” Massie wrote on the social media platform X. “There are millions of marijuana users who own guns in this country, and none of them should be in jail for purchasing or possessing a firearm against current laws.”

Massie, a libertarian-minded conservative and staunch advocate of gun rights, made clear that he wasn’t defending the president’s son generally, but merely his ability to purchase firearms.

And he wasn’t alone among Republicans in criticizing the trial.

“The Hunter Biden gun conviction is kinda dumb tbh,” wrote Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) after the verdict.

Biden was convicted Tuesday of three felony counts of illegally purchasing and possessing a firearm, with prosecutors claiming Biden lied on paperwork when he purchased a handgun in 2018.

His weeklong trial often focused on his addiction to crack cocaine, and featured testimony from his family, friends and ex-partners.

The charges have put some Republicans in a politically awkward position, given their support for broad protections for gun rights and gun owners.

Hunter Biden faces a maximum of 25 years in prison and $750,000 in fines, although first-time offenders are rarely given the maximum penalty. The president said recently he would not pardon his son if convicted.

In California, Hunter Biden faces separate charges for allegedly failing to pay $1.4 million in taxes and filing false returns, which could go to trial as soon as September.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4715860-thomas-massie-hunter-biden-verdict/

Why am I not surprised that they promote crack heads legally purchasing guns?

Sure, now they speak up. Goper’s want it both ways. Pffft. they don’t want to give anti gun advocates an excuse to stop them from buying a gun. Two face bastards. And I’m not positive but didn’t Hunter pay those taxes he owed?

He did pay them but he also avoided paying them when he was supposed to. Yeah, I know typically people aren't tried once they pay restitution on their taxes but it is still a crime none the less.

I’m betting over 99% of Americans have avoided paying taxes on one thing or another. Nitpickity. Oh well. Guilty on all accounts. Proven guilty already why even waste time and money on a trial? Just sentence him.

I said the act of avoiding paying your taxes is a crime. Not that he is guilty of that crime. As in the cases of both hunter and trump I will trust that a jury will hear all of the evidence and come to a just conclusion.

I will admit that hunter putting out the audio claiming he was an addict during the time he purchased the gun made is guilt in that case look much more convincing.

I think you had groups of people in both situation searching (mostly in vain) for wiggle room that really wasn't there. The crimes were committed. I'm aware that we have a history of going easy on politicians and other influential people when it comes to stuff like this, so I'm glad in the rare cases where we actually have accountability being enforced.