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LOL...it depends on the poster. Believe it or not, I actually was able to get into some decent conversations with 40 back in the day. With the person at hand, very little, though.

Oh, I get it. I think for me it just sometimes comes down to avoiding the escalation and letting it play out.

Eve when you gonna get you a conservative alpha male like don jr?

Around ten till two maybe.

I am extremely pissed at all these dems trying to MAKE Biden drop out. Mainstream media on both sides has been driving the narrative and putting fuel on the fire. SCREW MSM. Just found out that ALL the MSM CEOs are Trump donors. Do the math you dumbass handwringing fools. IMO Biden will trounce Trump, replacing Biden now will hand victory to Trump. And I don’t see Kamala beating Trump, period. If Hillary couldn’t break that glass ceiling with her machine, Kamala won’t stand a chance with only a few months until the election, voters NOT selecting her, both compounded by the hate and bigotry against a potential Female/Black POTUS that will get her destroyed. And Trump will play all those cards. Smfh, I want to scream at the TV news coverage.

High ranking dems calling for Biden’s ouster AT THUIS POINT, need to be replaced themselves for shear cowardice.

Ho No! that is just wrong. Eve has higher standards than to date a Trumpian toadstool. Without daddy’s money, all of the trump boys would just be far right incels.

George Clooney isn't the MSM. Democratic congressmen and senators aren't the MSM. Rob Reiner isn't the MSM. All of those Democratic politicians who refuse to outright endorse Biden aren't aren't the MSN. Half of Democratic voters aren't the MSM. But blaming it all on the MSM is the message social media is spoon feeding everyone............

Can Kamala Harris beat Trump? New poll puts her ahead of Joe Biden

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...arris-beat-trump-poll-biden/74333759007/

You aren’t MSM either, but you’re a hell of a wishy washy fence rider, that’s why we don’t pay attention to you anymore. Dems need to sack up and stay with the one who brought them to the dance.

Is that why you ignore all of the people I've shown you have come out against Biden remaining in the race or refusing to outright endorse Biden? They're not me. Are Clooney and Reiner fence riders too? Since Clooney has actually known Biden for years and knows the difference in Joe then and Joe now, are you saying he is now a fence rider? The one who brought them to the dance to begin with now forgets which dance he brought them to. 2020 Joe isn't 2024 Joe. People need to sack up and admit that. Your empty rhetoric isn't going to work here.

Ef em all. They are dumb as dirt and their remarks may be WHY Trump wins.

So the same people that have endorsed and agreed with you on your political views for decades are suddenly now "dumb as dirt" because they disagree with you on one single thing? People like you are why the election will be lost. If people don't agree with you 100% of the time about everything you suddenly make them your enemy. That's stright from the trumpian playbook. Joe staying in the race is why Democrats will lose the White House. And if he stays in the race, believe me, I'll be getting back with you when he loses.

Zzzz… bye pit.

That's probably your best option at this point. Facts are not your friend.

It's more than about beating Trump. Anyone who is being honest with themself knows that Biden is mentally and physically unfit for office. He cant mentally or physically do the job. National Security is at risk. At some point you have to put America first.

I saw a thread titled 'Debate Night' and was hoping this was going to be the new debate where they gold and John Daly moderates.



Great Disappoint.

If we are really being honest about national security, then we should bury both these fossils and not look back.
On one hand, we have a guy who is ready to beat Trump in 2020.
On the other hand, we had a POTUS who invited Russian operatives into the oval office, and shared nuclear submarine secrets to an Australian billionaire, just to impress him.*

Both are national security risks- one more than the other. (see below)


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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...ion-australian-billionaire-anthony-pratt

Disagreeing with a candidates politics is different than having a President who is mentally and physically infirm. This goes beyond hating Trump.

Facts are all I operate on, unlike you. So don’t mistake my not feeding the trolls for lack of ground to stand on. Those calling for Biden to step down are fools to the man. Absolute fools. There is no way another person steps in this late and beats the MAGA base vote. NONE. I don’t see why that is so hard for establishment centrists to grasp.

No problem with that here, I said he was too old in 2020. BUT Biden has been a good POTUS. Exceptional IMO. The 10 trillion dollar question is how do we stop Trump if Biden dips out? Unless you seriously think MAGA will grow a conscious and walk away from him… THEY’d have to go first before I commit to “moving on”.

You don't think telling military secrets to foreign citizens constitutes mental infirmity?
Well, how about dozens of boxes of classified government materials at a private low-security country club?
Let's go with more, shall we? Staffers had to follow him around with Scotch tape dispensers, so they could reconstruct ripped up memos that belonged in the presidential archives. Then, when he realized what was happening, toilets started backing up with was of shredded paper.

These aren't policy disagreements- they're real life examples of gross incompetence/mental infirmity.

You're right about one thing: it is more than just Trump hatred.

Dude's been a security risk since Day One. Don't take my word for it. You can read any number of articles from former cabinet members who all say pretty much the same thing. Generals, career professionals, even his Nat'l security advisor (John Bolton) say he's manifestly unfit.

Lemme guess: all of them are wrong, and you & trump are right.

We will have to agree to disagree. If your hatred of Trump is greater than concern for National Security, then vote for a corpse.

Everything you said is logical and correct, Clem. Don't get sucked into the very thing you warned us all against.

1. Just re-watch the debate. Grandpa Joe did not have a coherent thought, got confused and was cringe worthy pathetic. Then tell me that again.
2. If it winds up Joe v. Don the con, I am still holding my nose and voting for Grandpa Joe. Oh no, versus Oh HELL No.
3. The DNC sucks and has themselves to blame for cleaning a path for Grandpa Joe, just like 2016 they rigged their own system with an terrible (aka Hillary), and now declining candidate.
4. Kamala is a word salad machine as well...
5. Sign me up for Gretchen or Gavin in that order.

I tend to agree. He won't win in all probability, but he stands the best chance. You don't just pivot on something like this at this late date.

I don't see any difference in that and Biden having stacks of classified documents in his garage.

You don’t see the difference between one person having the documents in his garage and then cooperating with security about everything being returned vs someone who repeatedly refused to return piles of SCI data to the point where he had to be raided while also having shared that information braggadociously with foreign heads of state and other people not briefed into those programs?

Have you noticed that it has now been hours since I've allowed Eve get the last word in our exchange?
That number of hours is only going to grow, from here to (potentially) eternity.

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I said what I needed to say, and I used her post as a fatazz "T-ball set-up"... to send it to the yard.
Like I always do.


You and others hear/heard me, even after all the chaff she spat up into the chat.
Mission: accomplished.



Fleas don't bite me.
Trolls don't bait me.

Yes, defying a subpoena for months until the FBI is forced to get a search warrant to get access to the documents is the same thing. I hope purple font wasn't necessary.

When Joe said he was the first black VP in history, I felt that.

Just hours before his press conference during his closing remarks at the NATO conference he introduced Zelensky as “Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin,”. At the very beginning of the press conference Biden said........

“Look, I wouldn’t have picked Vice President Trump to be vice president [if I didn’t] think she was not qualified to be president,”

Biden also said that he beat trump once and will do it again in 2020.

This was yet another disaster no matter who tries to deny it. This isn't going to get better.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/17/politics/biden-democratic-advisers-campaign/index.html


Multiple reports all over - probably from the same source. Hopefully Biden comes to his senses long enough to step down in the next 48 hours.

Nearly two-thirds of Democrats want Biden to withdraw, new AP-NORC poll finds

https://apnews.com/article/biden-tr...mocrats-59eebaca6989985c2bfbf4f72bdfa112

He did the right thing. Funny, I remember another OLD GUY who didn't allow a peaceful transition of power. Thanks for your service, Joe.