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I searched to see if anybody had posted on this topic and came up empty so here is a little look at who might be changing teams before we know it.



December means a portion of the nation's fans begin to ramp up readying for their team's playoff run. But the rest of the nation is left to sit and dream about next season. What kind of moves will their teams make in the off-season so they aren't left out in the cold come December 2008?


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In an attempt to help out those ever-faithful and their abounding optimism that '07 was simply a fluke, I've compiled a list of the top 20 unrestricted free agents on the open market. Some will get the dreaded franchise tag, while others will re-up with their teams. But still, despite the constant stream of players willing to re-up before their contracts expire, this year's list is surprisingly deep — at least in the top 20 or so.

The following list also does not count restricted free agents such as Browns QB Derek Anderson, nor does it include those who will become free if their teams reject paying a roster or option bonus. This list consists of players slated to be UFAs or who can void their current deals by having already hit certain incentives.


1. Colts safety Bob Sanders — A bona fide difference-maker and game-changer. Sanders is a big play waiting to happen and earlier this year seemed a lock for Defensive Player of the Year. During last year's Super Bowl run, Indy's defense couldn't stop a nose from running ... until Sanders returned from injury. Suddenly, they were a totally different ballclub. For teams unable to land him, the Giants' Gibril Wilson, Dallas' Ken Hamlin and Patriots' Eugene Wilson would add immediate impact at the safety position.

2. Chiefs defensive end Jared Allen — Pass rushers are at a premium in this league and Allen has been virtually unstoppable this year. Missed two games early due to DWIs but has cleaned up his act. He says he hasn't had a drink in over a year and adamantly insists he has zero desire to ever have another drink again. Young up-and-coming pass rushers get paid in this league and Allen is on his way to a major check cashing.

3. Patriots WR Randy Moss — Maybe he's not the right fit for every team out there, but when he does find a fit he's proven to be unstoppable. Moss has been the most explosive offensive weapon in the NFL this season and it's hard to imagine the Patriots will not roll out the green carpet of cash for him. By the way, his WR mate Donte Stallworth has a huge $6 million bonus due this off-season that will likely cause the Pats to either re-do him as well or set him free. The rest of this year's WRs available are far from great but they have some bright prospects like Jerry Porter, Patrick Crayton, Bernard Berrian and Devery Henderson.

4. Steelers OG Alan Faneca — The best offensive lineman available via free agency, Faneca can play all over the line and has the leadership and attitude 32 out of 32 coaches would give their left arm to have. They may have to (plus sell a few other limbs) to come up with the cash that will land this stud. The offensive line as a whole is weak in this year's UFA class. Old vets like Larry Allen and Ruben Brown will be available and a guy like Miami's Rex Hadnot can play center or guard.

5. Patriots corner Asante Samuel — Like pass rushers, there's a premium on cover corners in this league and in a solid group available, Samuel is the best of the bunch. Unlike some cover corners, he's also solid against the run and is never afraid to deliver a blow. The Raiders' Nnamdi Asomugha and Seattle's Marcus Trufant round out a great top three. Considering what Nate Clements made last off-season, this trio should be about to hit a whole different financial world. Brian Kelly adds to this list.

6. Titans DT Albert Haynesworth — This may be a little high because of character concerns but actually a little low when talking about talent. Haynesworth has been a wrecking crew this year and when he was hurt, those around him clearly suffered.

7. Raiders CB Nnamdi Asomugha — Because of his talent, potential and position he moves up the list and resides in our top 10.

8. Bears LB Lance Briggs — The best LB on the open market. He's a perfect fit for a Tampa-Two defense but has the speed, athleticism and smarts to play in any system. Briggs is an explosive player, loved in the locker room and would provide an instant burst to any defense. Overall the linebackers in the open market are weak.

9. Ravens LB/DE Terrell Suggs — Remember what we said about pass rushers? Suggs is a proven commodity when it comes to making the life of a QB miserable.

10. Dallas OT Flozell Adams — Teams need solid tackles to protect against guys like Allen and Suggs, and Adams is the best on the list. A perennial Pro Bowler, Adams always seems like he should be more dominant but he's still more than solid. The lack of offensive line talent in the free-agent market has pushed him up our list.

11. Colts TE Dallas Clark — A solid weapon in the Colts offense, Clark is not a conventional tight end, which means he doesn't fit every system. However, in the systems he does fit in, he can cause fits for defensive schemes. The ultimate cover-2 buster, he'd be a huge loss to the Colts if he bolted. The Eagles' L.J. Smith is the best of the rest on this list.

12. Chargers QB Philip Rivers — Rivers is able to void his deal due to playing-time incentives he reached last year. There is a huge void of good QBs in this league and despite an inconsistent season, Rivers has shown enough to be a solid starter. Considering guys like Rex Grossman and Daunte Culpepper highlight, or lowlight, the list of UFAs at the position, Rivers' stock soars on our list.

13. Cowboys RB Julius Jones — Proven featured running backs are hard to come by for some teams.

14. Cincy DE Justin Smith — He made our list last year and despite the Bengals' struggles he's still a stud on the defensive line.

15. Seattle CB Marcus Trufant — See above talk of corners. William James and Drayton Florence add depth to this group and Denver's Dre Bly has a $9 million option which means he'll likely get cut free as well.

16. Dallas WR Patrick Crayton — He was tremendous this year filling in for the injured Terry Glenn and showed he's certainly worthy of a starting role.

17. Chargers RB Michael Turner — L.T.'s backup is held in very high regard by many personnel people throughout the league. Tennessee and Green Bay were interested him as an RFA and more should show him love as a UFA. The Browns' Jamal Lewis rounds out the RBs.

18. Giants safety Gibril Wilson — Michael Strahan once called Wilson "the best rookie I've ever played with." He wasn't a one-hit wonder and has been a very solid safety ever since. The Patriots' Eugene Wilson adds depth to this list along with the Browns' Gary Baxter.

19. Browns RB Jamal Lewis — He's shown he can still make noise, especially in cold-weather games. He's a bit older and obviously had off-field issues but he's still reliable down the stretch.

20. Eagles TE L.J. Smith — He's a young tight end who needs to stay healthy but has the talent to be a solid


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Jared Allen and/or Justin Smith would be a solid upgrade....As would Adams on the OL , although I don't want to move Thomas from LT....So we need to Upgrade at RT & the DL across the board....Beyond that adding Quality Depth on both sides of the ball is critical to any future success IMHO.... ....


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anyone know where we pick for next years draft? by the looks of it.. i think it's goin to be 21 or 22.


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We don't have a first round pick.

About the list:

Many of those guys won't hit the market. And his rankings leave a lot to be desired. Guys like Trufant, Smith, and Turner are very good players and will be in demand---if they reach the market.


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We don't have a first round pick.




If we did, we would currently sit at #22.


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About the list:

Many of those guys won't hit the market.



It's funny each year when these "expert" lists come out, and fans get all googly-eyed like they are sitting on Santa's lap asking for this player and that player........and they are bummed out and surprised when said player gets re-signed by his own team.....

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Right on, Shep.

Our OL played really well this year, so I'm not expecting too many changes there. The only one would maybe be RG with Tucker getting another year older. But, hopefully Bentley can come back and play at a high level. I'd love to have a Faneca, but you know he's going to demand (rightfully so) HUGE money, and we have enough money tied up in the OL, IMHO.

Our problem is defense, defense, defense. We need to get a strong DL, some guys who take up space, but can also cause disruption in the passing game.

I'd also like to see someone to compliment DQ in the linebacking corps (I just can't stand the way Andra Davis plays) and someone to put on pressure opposite Wimbley (Peek isn't bad, but he was banged up this year).

Didn't really see anyone (outside of Suggs) who interested me on that list.


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and they are bummed out and surprised when said player gets re-signed by his own team




Yup,,much like us resigning Jamal Lewis,,, same thing in reverse! I don't know why, but I am surpremly confident that it will get done.


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Like the #1 guy on the list already signed an extension. Which also means that Indy will most likely use their franchise tag on another guy on the list- Dallas Clark. Smart move because franchising a TE doesnt cost much.

A few players that got tagged last year signed a contract that says that cant be tagged this year (Samual, Justin Smith and Briggs).

It would be huge to pry Justin Smith away from Cincy. He doesnt get big sack totals but that guy does it all. With all the egos on that team, he usually goes under the radar which might make him one of the most underrated players on the team (to people outside of the north division who dont know much about him). He plays DE in the 4-2 but he could be big enough to play in the 3-4. He should be an upgrade over the aging Roye.

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some combo of Bears LB Lance Briggs, Ravens LB/DE Terrell Suggs, Cincy DE Justin Smith, Chargers RB Michael Turner, and maybe a safety. But we we can and should sign only 1-2 of these guys

the rest should coime from the draft.

one thing that struck me looking at the list was that we dont need much. So good to feel that! Dline, 1 backer (middle), 1 DE and a safety. We dont need a RB, but i'll take turner if can get him.


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I don't think we'll get into any bidding wars over anyone..when I see the entire list it'll become clearer..a lot of those guys won't hit the market or will get gobbled up quickly..we may take a lower cost DE ..AND a solid LB...
Then use the draft to reinforce what we get.
Guess I can start looking at the draft sites..I've seen a lot of college games this year..

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Only guy I want is Bernard Berrian...

if we don't get him, i really hope we draft Jordy Nelson of Kansas St. on day 2. He is going to be a Wes Welker, if not better, to the "T."


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If we are going to draft a WR I want a down the field threat.

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Here is the full order, just for FYI purposes:



Trades in ()
1 Miami
2 St. Louis
3 Atlanta
4 Kansas City
5 Oakland
6 NY Jets
7 NE (SF)
8 Baltimore
9 Cincinnati
10 New Orleans
11 Buffalo
12 Denver
13 Carolina
14 Chicago
15 Detroit
16 Arizona
17 Minnesota
18 Houston
19 Philadelphia
20 Tampa Bay
21 Washington
22 Seattle
23 DAL (CLEVELAND)
24 Pittsburgh
25 Tennessee
26 NY Giants
27 San Diego
28 Jacksonville
29 Green Bay
30 Dallas
31 SF (IND)
32 NE(FORFEIT)


If the draft were held today our picks would be:

(1) 22 - Traded to Dallas for #10
(2) 57
(3) 88
(4) 119
(6) 179
(6) 180 - Pick from Seattle for old #9 (CF)
(7) 215

Our 5th rounder is sent to Philly for #66 (HF)

Of course this order could change IF:
1 - Tampa Bay (#20), or Washington (#21) get to the Superbowl and thus pick #30 or 31. (NOTE: New England lost its own 1st pick due to their peeping nature).

2 - When Supplemental picks are assigned, of which I doubt we get any this year, our later round picks will change of course.


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Shep said it best...a lot of these guys won't hit the open market.

IMO the one with the best shot is Terrell Suggs.

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Since this is a Free Agent thread and my previous post was mostly about the draft order, I wanted to post the most complete list of FA's I have found:

NOTE: Some of these may have been resigned, I haven't updated it recently.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Free+Agency/2007/positionlist.htm
Quarterbacks
Player Team FA Type
Derek Anderson Cleveland RFA
Mark Brunell Washington UFA*
Todd Collins Washington UFA
Daunte Culpepper Oakland UFA
Ryan Fitzpatrick Cincinnati RFA
Quinn Gray Jacksonville UFA
Rex Grossman Chicago UFA
Shaun Hill San Francisco UFA
Cleo Lemon Miami UFA
Jared Lorenzen New York Giants RFA
Jamie Martin New Orleans UFA
Josh McCown Oakland UFA
Dan Orlovsky Detroit RFA
J.T. OSullivan Detroit UFA
Chris Redman Atlanta UFA
Philip Rivers San Diego UFA*
Jim Sorgi Indianapolis UFA
Brian St. Pierre Pittsburgh UFA
Marques Tuiasosopo New York Jets UFA

Fullbacks
Player Team FA Type
Mike Alstott Tampa Bay UFA
Darian Barnes New York Jets UFA
Jon Bradley Detroit UFA
Casey Cramer Tennessee RFA
Justin Green Baltimore RFA
Boomer Grigsby Kansas City RFA
Brad Hoover Carolina UFA
Dan Kreider Pittsburgh UFA
Reshard Lee Oakland UFA
Corey McIntyre Atlanta RFA
Tony Richardson Minnesota UFA
Cecil Sapp Denver UFA
Thomas Tapeh Philadelphia UFA
Leonard Weaver Seattle RFA
Kris Wilson Kansas City UFA

Running backs
Player Team FA Type
Marion Barber Dallas RFA
Tatum Bell Detroit UFA*
Michael Bennett Tampa Bay UFA
Chris Brown Tennessee UFA
Rock Cartwright Washington UFA*
Aveion Cason Detroit UFA
Jesse Chatman Miami UFA
Ron Dayne Houston UFA
T.J. Duckett Detroit UFA
Joe Echemandu Houston UFA
Justin Fargas Oakland UFA
Sam Gado Houston RFA
Maurice Hicks San Francisco UFA
Greg Jones Jacksonville UFA*
Julius Jones Dallas UFA*
Jamal Lewis Cleveland UFA
Travis Minor St. Louis UFA
Mewelde Moore Minnesota UFA
Vernand Morency Green Bay RFA
Alvin Pearman Seattle RFA
Artose Pinner Atlanta UFA
Michael Pittman Tampa Bay UFA*
Musa Smith Baltimore UFA
Aaron Stecker New Orleans UFA
Tyson Thompson Dallas RFA
LaBrandon Toefield Jacksonville UFA
Michael Turner San Diego UFA
Derrick Ward New York Giants UFA

Tight ends
Player Team FA Type
Stephen Alexander Denver UFA
Courtney Anderson Detroit UFA
Billy Bajema San Francisco RFA
Anthony Becht Tampa Bay UFA*
Dwayne Blakley Atlanta UFA
Mark Bruener Houston UFA
Dallas Clark Indianapolis UFA*
Tim Euhus Arizona RFA
Christian Fauria Carolina UFA
Bryan Fletcher Indianapolis RFA
Michael Gaines Buffalo UFA
John Gilmore Chicago UFA
Ben Hartsock Tennessee UFA
Nate Jackson Denver UFA
Eric Johnson New Orleans UFA
Bennie Joppru Seattle UFA
Billy Miller New Orleans UFA
Matt Murphy Buffalo UFA
Ryan Neufeld Buffalo UFA
Marcus Pollard Seattle UFA
Sean Ryan New York Jets UFA
Bo Scaife Tennessee UFA
Mike Seidman Indianapolis UFA
L.J. Smith Philadelphia UFA
Jerramy Stevens Tampa Bay UFA
Ben Troupe Tennessee UFA
Ben Utecht Indianapolis RFA
Aaron Walker St. Louis UFA

Wide receivers
Player Team FA Type
Sam Aiken Buffalo UFA
Bernard Berrian Chicago UFA
Troy Brown New England UFA
Reche Caldwell Washington UFA
Tim Carter Cleveland UFA
Drew Carter Carolina UFA
Antonio Chatman Cincinnati UFA
Keary Colbert Carolina UFA
Terrance Copper New Orleans UFA
Patrick Crayton Dallas UFA
Devard Darling Baltimore UFA
Andre Davis Houston UFA
Rashied Davis Chicago RFA
Isaiah Ekejiuba Oakland RFA
Robert Ferguson Minnesota UFA
Jabar Gaffney New England UFA
Justin Gage Tennessee UFA
D.J. Hackett Seattle UFA
Devery Henderson New Orleans UFA
Bryant Johnson Arizona UFA
Jerome Mathis Houston RFA
Ahmad Merritt Arizona RFA
Aaron Moorehead Indianapolis UFA
Randy Moss New England UFA
Eric Moulds Tennessee UFA
Samie Parker Kansas City UFA
David Patten New Orleans UFA
Tab Perry Cincinnati RFA
Jerry Porter Oakland UFA*
Brandon Stokley Denver UFA
Jerheme Urban Arizona RFA
Troy Walters Detroit UFA
Nate Washington Pittsburgh RFA
Ernest Wilford Jacksonville UFA

Centers
Player Team FA Type
Eugene Amano Tennessee UFA
Jeff Faine New Orleans UFA*
Andy McCollum St. Louis UFA
Seth McKinney Cleveland UFA
Gene Mruczkowski Miami UFA
Chris Myers Denver RFA
Jeremy Newberry Oakland UFA
Brett Romberg St. Louis UFA
Wade Smith New York Jets UFA
Alex Stepanovich Cincinnati UFA
Ross Tucker Washington UFA
John Wade Tampa Bay UFA*
Casey Wiegmann Kansas City UFA

Offensive guards
Player Team FA Type
Larry Allen San Francisco UFA
Jacob Bell Tennessee UFA
Joe Berger Dallas RFA
Ruben Brown Chicago UFA
Milford Brown St. Louis UFA
Jason Brown Baltimore RFA
Rick DeMulling Washington UFA
Alan Faneca Pittsburgh UFA
Lennie Friedman Cleveland UFA
Dylan Gandy Indianapolis RFA
Adam Goldberg St. Louis UFA
Jonathan Goodwin New Orleans UFA
Rex Hadnot Miami UFA
Geoff Hangartner Carolina RFA
Anthony Herrera Minnesota UFA
Chris Kemoeatu Pittsburgh RFA
Matt Lehr Tampa Bay UFA
Ryan Lilja Indianapolis UFA
Chris Liwienski Miami UFA
Evan Mathis Carolina RFA
Stockar McDougle Jacksonville UFA
Scott Mruczkowski San Diego RFA
Jamar Nesbit New Orleans UFA
Stephen Peterman Detroit RFA
Mike Pucillo Washington UFA
Jake Scott Indianapolis UFA
Justin Smiley San Francisco UFA
Fred Weary Houston UFA
Jason Whittle Buffalo UFA
Floyd Womack Seattle UFA

Offensive tackles
Player Team FA Type
Flozell Adams Dallas UFA
Stacy Andrews Cincinnati UFA
Kevin Barry Houston UFA
Elton Brown Arizona RFA
Nat Dorsey Cleveland UFA
Trai Essex Pittsburgh RFA
Jason Fabini Washington UFA
George Foster Detroit UFA*
Brandon Gorin St. Louis UFA
Cornell Green Oakland UFA
Jordan Gross Carolina UFA
Kwame Harris San Francisco UFA*
Scott Jackson Houston RFA
Adrian Jones New York Jets UFA
Adam Kieft Cincinnati RFA
Cory Lekkerkerker Miami RFA
Sean Locklear Seattle UFA
Daniel Loper Tennessee RFA
Mike Rosenthal Miami UFA
Max Starks Pittsburgh UFA
David Stewart Tennessee RFA
Will Svitek Kansas City RFA
Chris Terry Kansas City UFA
Kyle Turley Kansas City UFA
Tyson Walter Green Bay UFA
Travelle Wharton Carolina UFA
Maurice Williams Jacksonville UFA

Defensive ends
Player Team FA Type
Jared Allen Kansas City UFA
Adrian Awasom New York Giants RFA
Ryon Bingham San Diego RFA
Tyler Brayton Oakland UFA*
Chris Canty Dallas RFA
Chauncey Davis Atlanta RFA
Ebenezer Ekuban Denver UFA
John Engelberger Denver UFA*
Demetric Evans Washington UFA*
Jonathan Fanene Cincinnati RFA
Simon Frasier Cleveland RFA
Tony Hargrove Buffalo UFA
Eric Hicks New York Jets UFA
Trevor Johnson St. Louis RFA
Ndukwe Kalu Houston UFA
Travis Kirschke Pittsburgh UFA
Ross Kolodziej Arizona UFA
Travis LaBoy Tennessee UFA
Bobby McCray Jacksonville UFA
Jerome McDougle Philadelphia UFA*
Antwan Odom Tennessee UFA
Bryan Robinson Cincinnati UFA
Mike Rucker Carolina UFA
Darrion Scott Minnesota UFA
Justin Smith Cincinnati UFA
Corey Smith Detroit UFA
Antonio Smith Arizona RFA
Joe Tafoya Arizona UFA
Josh Thomas Indianapolis UFA
Al Wallace Buffalo UFA
Jimmy Wilkerson Kansas City UFA
Renaldo Wynn New Orleans UFA
Bryant Young San Francisco UFA

Defensive tackles
Player Team FA Type
Sam Adams Denver UFA
Tim Anderson Buffalo UFA
Rodney Bailey Arizona UFA
Ryan Boschetti Washington UFA
Colin Cole Green Bay RFA
Chuck Darby Seattle UFA
Russell Davis New York Giants UFA
Marques Douglas San Francisco UFA
Nick Eason Pittsburgh UFA
Antonio Garay Chicago UFA
Jovan Haye Tampa Bay RFA
Albert Haynesworth Tennessee UFA
Jason Jefferson Buffalo RFA
Spencer Johnson Minnesota UFA
Williams Joseph New York Giants UFA*
Ethan Kelley Cleveland UFA
Tommy Kelly Oakland UFA
Cedric Killings Houston UFA
Dan Klecko Indianapolis UFA
Damione Lewis Carolina UFA
Anthony Maddox Houston RFA
Langston Moore Detroit RFA
Kindal Moorehead Carolina UFA
Jay Ratliff Dallas RFA
Darrell Reid Indianapolis RFA
Ian Scott Philadelphia UFA
Ryan Sims Tampa Bay UFA
Isaac Sopoaga San Francisco UFA
Randy Starks Tennessee UFA
Craig Terrill Seattle UFA
Kimo Von Oelhoffen Philadelphia UFA
Ted Washington Cleveland UFA
Corey Williams Green Bay UFA
Mike Wright New England RFA
Ellis Wyms Seattle UFA
Brian Young New Orleans UFA

Inside linebackers
Player Team FA Type
Tedy Bruschi New England UFA
Khari Campbell Washington UFA*
Tony Gilbert Jacksonville UFA
Randall Godfrey Washington UFA
Tyjuan Hagler Indianapolis RFA
Larry Izzo New England UFA
Brad Kassell New York Jets UFA
Niko Koutouvides Seattle UFA
Teddy Lehman Detroit UFA
Hannibal Navies San Francisco UFA
Robert Reynolds Tennessee UFA
Adam Seward Carolina RFA
Mike Smith Baltimore RFA
Dontarrious Thomas Minnesota UFA
Chaun Thompson Cleveland UFA
Jeremiah Trotter Tampa Bay UFA

Outside linebackers
Player Team FA Type
Charlie Anderson Houston UFA
Brendon Ayanbadejo Chicago UFA
Boss Bailey Detroit UFA
Kevin Bentley Seattle UFA
Darryl Blackstock Arizona RFA
Rocky Boiman Indianapolis UFA
Michael Boley Atlanta RFA
Lance Briggs Chicago UFA
Chad Brown Pittsburgh UFA
Antoine Cash Tampa Bay RFA
Brandon Chillar St. Louis UFA
Danny Clark Houston UFA
Chris Clemons Oakland UFA
Karlos Dansby Arizona UFA
Nail Diggs Carolina UFA
Heath Farwell Minnesota RFA
Alfred Fincher New Orleans RFA
Keyaron Fox Kansas City UFA
Andre Frazier Pittsburgh RFA
Gilbert Gardner Tennessee UFA
Nick Greisen Baltimore UFA
Kris Griffin Cleveland RFA
Mario Haggan Buffalo UFA
Clark Haggans Pittsburgh UFA
Marques Harris San Diego RFA
Victor Hobson New York Jets UFA
Landon Johnson Cincinnati UFA
Dhani Jones Cincinnati UFA
D.D. Lewis Denver UFA
Lemar Marshall Cincinnati UFA
Terrence Melton Carolina UFA
Caleb Miller Cincinnati UFA
Kawika Mitchell New York Giants UFA
Shantee Orr Houston UFA
Calvin Pace Arizona UFA
Derrick Pope Miami UFA
Junior Seau New England UFA
Raonall Smith St. Louis UFA
Donnie Spragan Miami UFA
Josh Stamer Buffalo UFA
Matt Stewart Cleveland UFA
Terrell Suggs Baltimore UFA
Patrick Thomas Jacksonville RFA
Reggie Torbor New York Giants UFA
Tracy White Green Bay UFA
Demorrio Williams Atlanta UFA
Sam Williams Oakland UFA
Jamie Winborn Denver UFA
LeVar Woods Tennessee UFA

Cornerbacks
Player Team FA Type
Roc Alexander Houston UFA
Nnamdi Asomugha Oakland UFA*
Gary Baxter Cleveland UFA
Tony Beckham Detroit UFA
Ralph Brown Arizona UFA
Chris Carr Oakland RFA
Ricardo Colclough Cleveland UFA
Terry Cousin Jacksonville UFA
Sammy Davis Tampa Bay UFA
Curtis Deloatch Carolina UFA
Travis Fisher Detroit UFA
Drayton Florence San Diego UFA
Domonique Foxworth Denver RFA
Randall Gay New England UFA
Aaron Glenn Jacksonville UFA
Eric Green Arizona RFA
Joselio Hanson Philadelphia RFA
Reynaldo Hill Tennessee RFA
Daven Holly Cleveland RFA
Jason Horton Houston RFA
William James Philadelphia UFA
Nathan Jones Dallas UFA
Brian Kelly Tampa Bay UFA*
Michael Lehan Miami UFA
Omare Lowe Atlanta UFA
David Macklin Washington UFA
Karl Paymah Denver RFA
Hank Poteat New York Jets UFA
Jacques Reeves Dallas UFA
Chris Roberson Jacksonville RFA
Asante Samuel New England UFA
Benny Sapp Kansas City UFA
Chad Scott New England UFA
Keith Smith Detroit UFA
Donald Strickland San Francisco UFA
Fred Thomas New Orleans UFA
Marcus Trufant Seattle UFA*
B.J. Tucker San Francisco RFA
Michael Waddell Tennessee RFA
Frank Walker Green Bay UFA
Jason Webster Buffalo UFA
Dante Wesley Carolina UFA
Stanley Wilson Detroit RFA
Dexter Wynn Houston UFA

Safeties
Player Team FA Type
Hamza Abdullah Denver RFA
Oshiomoge Atogwe St. Louis RFA
Idrees Bashir Detroit UFA
Yeremiah Bell Miami UFA
C.C. Brown Houston RFA
James Butler New York Giants RFA
Jerome Carter St. Louis RFA
Oliver Celestin Arizona UFA
Erik Coleman New York Jets UFA
Deke Cooper Carolina UFA
Chris Crocker Atlanta UFA
Keith Davis Dallas UFA
Will Demps Houston UFA
Mike Doss Minnesota UFA
Glenn Earl Houston UFA
Nick Ferguson Denver UFA
Vincent Fuller Tennessee RFA
Matt Giordano Indianapolis RFA
Steve Gleason New Orleans UFA
Ken Hamlin Dallas UFA
Von Hutchins Houston UFA
Sammy Knight Jacksonville UFA
Jim Leonhard Buffalo RFA
Marquand Manuel Carolina UFA
Brandon McGowan Chicago RFA
Mel Mitchell New England UFA
Donnie Nickey Tennessee UFA
Kalvin Pearson Tampa Bay RFA
Pierson Prioleau Washington UFA
J.R. Reed Philadelphia RFA
Gerome Sapp Baltimore UFA
Bob Sanders Indianapolis UFA*
Bryan Scott Buffalo UFA
Gerald Sensabaugh Jacksonville RFA
Jason Simmons Houston UFA
Travares Tillman Miami UFA
Matt Ware Arizona UFA
Madieu Williams Cincinnati UFA
Tank Williams Minnesota UFA
Eugene Wilson New England UFA
Gibril Wilson New York Giants UFA

Punters
Player Team FA Type
Dustin Colquitt Kansas City RFA
Jeff Feagles New York Giants UFA
Derrick Frost Washington UFA
Michael Koenen Atlanta RFA
Kyle Larson Cincinnati UFA
Todd Sauerbrun Denver UFA
Matt Turk Houston UFA

Placekickers
Player Team FA Type
Morten Andersen Atlanta UFA
Rob Bironas Tennessee RFA
Josh Brown Seattle UFA
John Carney Jacksonville UFA
Jason Elam Denver UFA
Aaron Elling Cincinnati UFA
Shaun Suisham Washington UFA
Lawrence Tynes New York Giants UFA

Long-snappers
Player Team FA Type
Ethan Albright Washington UFA
Rob Davis Green Bay UFA
John Denney Miami RFA
Jon Dorenbos Philadelphia UFA
Nathan Hodel Arizona UFA
Matt Katula Baltimore RFA
Ryan Kuehl New York Giants UFA
L.P. Ladouceur Dallas RFA
Lonnie Paxton New England UFA
Greg Warren Pittsburgh RFA

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Eddie Drummond Kansas City UFA
Mark Jones Tampa Bay UFA
Reno Mahe Philadelphia UFA
B.J. Sams Baltimore UFA



Think I highlighted all the Browns.

Lots of good names on this list; and as mentioned lots of them will be either tagged or resigned by their current team.

Some DLinemen I would like us to look at:

Ryon Bingham San Diego RFA (7th round compensation, if he doesn't get tendered more).

Chris Canty Dallas RFA (4th round compensation, if he doesn't get tendered more - which he most likely will).

Jovan Haye Tampa Bay RFA (No comp, udfa)(Anyone remember this guy when he was on our PS a few years ago. Today he has 68 tackles, 6 sacks and 1 ff. Doubt TB lets him go with no compensation, but I'd like to get him back).

Tommy Kelly Oakland UFA - Spent most of the year on IR, so would have to make sure he was 100% or would be at least before signing.

Isaac Sopoaga San Francisco UFA - Played in SF 3-4, wasn't a huge factor, but could be this years Shaun Smith.

Randy Starks Tennessee UFA - Young with potential.

Craig Terrill Seattle UFA

Corey Williams Green Bay UFA - This is my current first choice. No comp necessary, great hustle, good numbers (35 tckls, 7 sacks, 3 FF, & 1 int); in 9 starts with a pretty good DL rotation in GB.

Mike Wright New England RFA (No compenstation, waiver wire pick up for NE)


Those are just my DL preferences, not all of them, but the top half. I don't think Jared Allen or Albert Haynesworth make it to FA, and probably a few others won't as well.



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Yeah, but we're officially in time-killing mode now.

Nothing to do but tick days off until the Senior Bowl, then the Super Bowl, then the Pro Bowl, then the Scouting Combine, then the start of Free Agency, then the big wait to get us to The Draft and finally some decent weather and the beginning of mini-camps.


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Haynesworth
Briggs
Suggs
If the money isn't too big, Eugene Wilson

That would be a nice start on fixing our D.
*Maybe* gimme Turner for the O. It'd of course be fun as hell to have Winslow AND Dallas Clark as well


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I could see guys like Suggs & Tommy Kelly being brought in.

Isn't Justin Smith a tad small to play in a 3-4?


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I could see guys like Suggs & Tommy Kelly being brought in.

Isn't Justin Smith a tad small to play in a 3-4?




Yes. He's too small to be a DE in a 3-4. Too bad he probably wouldn't want to convert to a LB. He'd be a beast in that role.

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DL is weak........ all I see is Haynesworth and Allen, so what the hell, bring 'em in!

Jamal Lewis needs to be resigned TODAY.


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Bat,, thanks for the list... very helpful

First off, guys that are on our roster that I think we gotta keep are:

Derek Anderson (if for no other reason than a high tender to see what we get)
Jamal Lewis (need I explain why)
Lennie Friedman (unless they find an upgrade to him)
Ethan Kelly (again, unless we find an upgrade to him)
Devon Holly (unless an upgrade is found)
Chaun Thompson (unless and upgrad can be found)

Jamal and Derek are really the only expensive ones I would think.

I like Haynesworth but I'm worried about his head stomping incident.. Maybe I'm over reacting to it.

Terrell Suggs would be a monster for us........

That's all I see for the moment,, gotta do research on some others but don't have time now.


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My shopping list from this list:

Re-sign

Jamal Lewis- I wasn't impressed that much in the first half of the year but he turned it up the second half and just mowed through defenses. His type of running epitomizes Browns football to me.

Seth McKinney G/C- Was solid til he was injured. Not great, but solid. I think Tucker has a pretty good grip on the right guard spot now but injuries happen and McKinney would make for a great backup.

Lennie Friedman G/C- Has always been underrated if you ask me. Is a respectable player with versatility. Keep for depth.

Chaun Thompson LB- Showed us more this year than any year previously, despite a reduction in playing time. Good spot player.

Ethan Kelley DT- Our D-Line needs a major overhaul but I thought Kelley was probably our best NT this year (not saying much I know). Shaun Smith was effective but I think he's better at a DE spot where he played for most of the year. Given the age of our DL and other folks we need to axe, we need to keep some depth.

Daven Holly- Still a diamond in the rough. Might end up being something good and is a quality nickelback even if he's not.

Derrick Anderson- Nice fat tender put on him--1st and a 3rd. If someone offers it, I'm still up in the air on whether to give him up or not.

Given walking papers

Tim Carter- Has speed but no moves and no hands.

Nat Dorsey- Better known for being fat than anything else. With Shaff being able to play both tackle spots, I don't feel to rough letting Dorsey walk.

Simon Fraser- I love Fraser...but not in a 3-4. He's just not stout enough. Put this guy in a 4-3 and he'll be twice as good.

Ted Washington- We should be hearing about his retirement any day I figure. He's just done physically.

Kris Griffin- Worked hard but can;t say I noticed him all that much. He's RFA so we may end up keeping him.

Matt Stewart- IR'ed all year and nothing special before that. With other young LBs looking for time, he's squeezed out.

Gary Baxter- Sorry Gary...I just don;t have the faith. You weren't all that quick before blowing your knees. I don't see how it will help matters. Good luck.

Ricardo Colclough- Former first rounder but doesn;t seem to have the head for the pro game. No special effort should be extended to keep him.

Now then, the shopping list

Nick Eason DE- I think it was a mistake to get rid of him. All effort player. Good for depth.

Albert Haynesworth DT- Throw the bank at this man. Would instantly make our defense better. Would constantly demand a doubleteam and even then is likely to collapse the pocket regularly. We NEED a dominant D-lineman.

David Macklin CB- Solid corner that can backup competantly and push Holly at the nickel.

Calvin Pace OLB- Hitting his prime at an OLB this year. As a 4-3 backer, had 7 sacks.... In a 3-4 with more opportunity to blitz, could be even better.

Bryant Johnson WR- Joey J ain;t gonna last forever. We had absolutely zero production apart from our big three... I'd like to bring in Johnson as our number 2 WR and move JJ to the slot and as a 3rd down specialist.

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Bat,, thanks for the list... very helpful

First off, guys that are on our roster that I think we gotta keep are:

Derek Anderson (if for no other reason than a high tender to see what we get)
Jamal Lewis (need I explain why)
Lennie Friedman (unless they find an upgrade to him)
Ethan Kelly (again, unless we find an upgrade to him)
Devon Holly (unless an upgrade is found)
Chaun Thompson (unless and upgrad can be found)

Jamal and Derek are really the only expensive ones I would think.

I like Haynesworth but I'm worried about his head stomping incident.. Maybe I'm over reacting to it.

Terrell Suggs would be a monster for us........

That's all I see for the moment,, gotta do research on some others but don't have time now.





Agree on the who to re-sign from our own squad. I would add Fraser and Louis Leonard. Leonard only because of depth and we saw something to bring him in during the season, perhaps a full offseason with us will make him a keeper in the long-haul. I can't find the contract data (haven't looked too hard I must admit), but I think Charles Ali (FB) and Sorenson (S) are both going to be FA's as well, I bring both of them back as well.

Bringing all these guys back doesn't mean there still isn't a need, and that they couldn't be let go later on (Fraser, Sorenson, Leonard, etc). I want to bring back the good ones with experience in our locker room and system and add the upgrades as we can to build the team stronger.

Suggs would be a beast I agree. I don't think Balt can resign him, at least not currently, but he may get many other offers, ala Clements, and the bidding war should not get too out of hand to get him.

I am working on a list of about 25-30 guys I would like to see us get (not all of course, but if we don't get #1, move down the list to #2, and so forth.


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I'd forgot to mention Bryant Johnson, (either this thread or another) but he is my #1 option at WR, then Drew Carter, then Bernard Berrian.


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We don't have a first round pick.
If we did, we would currently sit at #22.




Wow doesnt that make it an even trade for BQ last year?


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My understanding of the Haynesworth head stomping incident is that the Cowboys were repeatedly trying to take out his knees and he got frustrated and lost it. Does it make it right that he used his cleats as a cheese grater on Gurode's forehead? No, but if someone was trying to take away my livlihood, I might get a little frustrated and lose it too. Not saying it's right, but I think it may have been isolated.

Besides, it's all conjecture because there's a 99.9% chance Haynesworth gets franchised.


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Jamal Lewis obviously has off-the-field issues? Such as...?

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Does prison time not qualify anymore?

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To be fair though, that would fall under had issues, not has issues.


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I see a lot of calls for Berrian, but my number one receiver is Patrick Crayton. In the few Cowgirls games I've seen, he has impressed me mightily. Plus, his price tag should be lower and allow us to take a flier on a bigger name guy on D.


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I don't think we go after any "name" WR's at all.

I think we stick with Cribbs and Travis Wilson and then grab one perhaps Round 3 and then a bunch of UDFA... all with the idea of finding a burner with semi-decent hands to stretch a D vertically.. anything to do what Tim Carter should have been doing (honestly, did he really contribute much of anything at all to us... was he even a decent decoy at all??).

An old name that might be good now that he's had a couple healthy years: Andre Davis is a free agent again.

I think he might be a great fit in that role for us.... and he'd be a helluva 2nd option at Kick Returner as well.


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Travis Wilson can't even make the gameday roster. I doubt he is with us next year.


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Crayton was resigned, I believe.

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aye, he'll likely be given the full offseason as a last chance though.

From everything I've heard/read, he has all the physical tools and skills anyone could want, he's just not got much in the mental game and is slow developing.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Andre Davis possibly making a return to C-Town.


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I HATED when we let him go.

Tim Carter vs. Andre Davis ......... yeah......Carter really did wonders for us. We don't need a returner obviously, but he'd be a nice #3 option for us.


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I'd like to resign Tim Carter, I know he wasn't used much but he has game breaking speed and maybe we can find him and Cribbs a way to get a few touches on offense.

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Since KW is probably going to have multi surgeries...might be good to look to look at a TE...

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We, The Browns, should pick up your top 5 FA's and then sign Michael Turner and resign Jamal Lewis. LOL (not really joking)


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It was because of those very issues,, past or present, that I wasn't exactly overjoyed with that signing... man I was totally wrong about him. he is a leader.. and one helleva football player. I hope we sign him for the resf of his career.....

I guess what that means is that a leopard CAN change thier spots.. if that's the case, and Haynesworthy has his act together, I'm ok with it.


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Lance Briggs is the team's #1 priority.

Look for more second tier players visiting for free agency although I could see a play being made for both Suggs and Trufant.

Under the radar guys to watch are:

Travis LaBoy, OLB in our system
Randall Gay, CB
David Patten, WR part deux

and of course

Marques Tuiasasopo, QB if someone pulls the trigger on Anderson and signs him to contract.


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JMO the only ones i would want are Bob sanders and Justin smitth.


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