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Did anyone see John Stewart Monday he played back to back clips of trump making exact same comments about Biden and Harris. He said the same thing and just changed the names . Failed president, failed vice president, Worst president in history, worst vice president in history, he is incompetent, she is incompetent, everything he touched is bad, everything she touched turned to bad things, he cant talk, she cant talk, he is worse than Bernie, she is worse than Bernie, he has a low IQ, she has a low IQ. Wow he just doesnt know how to deal with Harris.

That’s great to read NL and Arch. My kid wants to make money and I told her that math/science is where it’s at. She is actually a decent artist as well - don’t want to suppress what makes her happy. One heck of a freehand drawer.
Either way, My wife and I have one kid and the thought of her going into debt upsets me.
However, I’ve seen so many of her older peers get into some great colleges/universities that their parents can’t cut a check for. Eh! Tough decisions.

You kinda were making me think for a second until you typed this

"you complain about price gouging. Meanwhile you want the government to continue subsidizing their overpriced, far left indoctrination centers (colleges/universities) under the guise of "student loan forgiveness."


That is pure Right Wing Nut Baggary, That is 100% Facism

That's the kinda thing that Hitler used to convince Germans to Join his movement..

Libtards think everything is fascism until they are the ones doing it.

...Perhaps you should have continued thinking? I know your party doesn't like it when you actually stop to think about the things they do and say, but it's good for you.

Just curious, when is the last time you were on a major college campus as a student and/or in a college class?

...Have you seen the price of a campus parking pass? Over a grand a year for a surface lot day pass at OSU for a student already paying the tuition.

...what exactly was fascism in my post? Was the poke emoji forcibly suppressing you?

You want to bring up Nazi Germany, the 3rd Reich was all about price control. That's your candidate's latest topic.

Way to invoke Hitler, though.

Just what is fascist in what he wrote?

100% on processed foods. We only buy organic or foods with little to no ingredients or at least ingredients we recognize. Processed foods are killing people.

Now if I can just stop drinking.

Question for anyone that wants to answer…when did inflation become price gouging? It seems the democrats are saying there is no inflation, it’s the nasty corporate greeders that are unnecessarily driving prices up. While I’m not saying price gouging doesn’t happen, that’s dishonest at best. Or am I missing something?

Clean food ftw.

I always find it baffling that the FDA allows chemicals in foods with so little testing compared to the testing that pharmaceuticals go through.


I take a lot of supplements. Those go through no testing other than "third party testing" of the manufacturers choice, if they please, not because they have to.

He just saw that nobody had used fascism and Hitler in a while and figured it was time to inject it into a post.

Or maybe it's actually "Facism", like he typed. Maybe that's when you facepalm because you realize everything you typed sounds like "Nut Baggary".

:Listen dude, you just keep supporting your Hitler candidate,,

I'm not supporting either "Hitler" ( ) candidate. Where do you see any support for any candidate from me? Just because I don't trust yours doesn't mean I want Trump. I know that's hard to remember when your party constantly blasts the BS message not voting for Kamala is a vote for him, but you'd have to think to realize that's not actually the case. It's just a ploy to get people to vote for someone that they wouldn't vote for otherwise. That's some fascist rhetoric. Constantly pointing at someone else and calling them the bad guy (Hitler, Jews) is being done by both parties now. I'd like a candidate that doesn't use such tactics.

I’m not a Democrat and I don’t think you’re genuinely asking given all the slant and preconceived notions you have brought to these threads, but I will answer.

Inflation involves the increase of prices for goods and services in an economy. The purchasing power of currency gradually goes down over time at various rates. In the current era, the Fed is targeting an inflation percentage of 2%. We have been over that, obviously.

Following that general notion, the discussion has turned to what has caused the higher inflationary levels we have witnessed. Corporate price gouging is one of those elements that has data to back it, most simplistically when looking at the realized margins from a consolidated, non competitive corporate environment. FATE and I had a really good discussion on that pertaining to the food and defense industry. We’ve also touched on healthcare.

Democrats are focusing on that area IMO because it’s an easy area for them to exploit what is typically viewed as a Republican vulnerability: their closeness to large corporations.

The Democrats are certainly not innocent when it comes to inflation, but I wouldn’t expect either party at this point to address their own shortcomings, as neither has done something like that going as far back as I remember, especially in an election year.

The FDA is practically a criminal syndicate as lousy as our food and drug systems are. EPA is right there with them.


...I'm trying to find a way to avoid plastic packaging now....



If the cost of a product goes up in line with the cost of production, it's inflation. If the price of a product arbitrarily goes up to improve profits while cost of production actually went down, it's price gouging.

Charging many times over the price you charge for something in one place as opposed to another could also be considered price gouging.

In a sense, inflation isn't "real." It's an artificial "excuse" for people to get more money. It certainly exists, but it is (can be, really, but in many cases now, is) "man-made" and somewhat relies on circular reasoning.

Inflation implies it's the government's fault for printing too much money. The term price gouging points the finger elsewhere which is especially critical in an election year.

So you found a guy. Great. I was talking about the Republican party and Republicans in general. Not outliers.


Actually that has nothing to do with any argument I made. I said that people attach that label to it depending on who is taking that action. And no, not just Milton Friedman but the political party and people in general. Republicans never want to attach that label to one of their own even when they did something similar or even stricter.


So more of a sense of balance. Thank you.


Who denied that? I'm not sure what you missed about me saying that unbridled capitalism allows the people to be abused and that we need balance. Without checks and balances it is used to abuse the population.

My point was don't scream communism when one side does it and then play stupid when the other side does it.

He was right making the point that this is pure Right Wing Nut Baggary.

I don't see where anyone has said that at all. What is being said that I have seen is that price gouging is a big part of inflation. Looking at much higher than usual profit margins in many sectors shows that some major price increases are directly connected to price gouging. Getting that in check would help lower inflation. If you can't see how those two things are connected why would that be?

You make it sound like people are saying that keeping price gouging in check would solve inflation which I haven't seen anyone say. But it would certainly help lower inflation if it can be achieved.

1. Ford and Reagan also spoke against his policies as they tried to replace Nixon in 1976. link Were they outliers, too?

2. The label naturally attaches whether you like it or not. Complaining about using a word to describe something that literally describes what something is isn't a good argument. The argument of why is irrelevant if the content is accurate.

3. But what are you balancing with? It's okay. Communism and socialism aren't dirty words. Pieces of them can be used sensibly. Pretending you're not using their ideas as the other end of the balance is ...cowardly (?).

4. You seem to be afraid of the word communism even when it is valid. You've got a distorted way of looking at everything as dichotomous. Communism isn't some grand evil that must be utterly separate from capitalism. They're just words to describe systems that could perhaps be blended to good effect. By denying the word, you're giving some "legitimacy" to the idea that it is inherently bad. The word fits the proposed action, instead of trying to deny a word being accurately applied, rebutting the implied negative connotation would seem to make more sense.

If I was being dead serious and hadn't followed it with emojis that indicated I was in large part pulling his leg, ....you probably still wouldn't have a point.

College campuses are hot beds of political extremism. It is what it is.

You mean after the fact. After it had already failed miserably. After Nixon had to leave office over Watergate. Yes, they're good at after the fact.


I simply said there was no consistency. There's nothing wrong about expecting consistency. You seem to be the only one arguing it isn't a socialist idea. My point all along is that you need a balance of both capitalism and socialism to promote business while also protecting the people.


I already addressed that. You don't have to pretend you aren't the one being cowardly here by deflecting it on to me.


As i pointed out, you obviously haven't been paying attention to anything I posted on the matter. Nothing new there.

That's just idiotic. Dumber than a box of rocks. Shame on you.

I'm sorry, no, I am not privy to the voice in your head's revisionist history until you type it out.

Your new argument is never the same as your previous argument, no matter how many times you try to claim "that's what I said." You constantly claim to have pointed something out, but no one but you has any idea what you think you were pointing at or are referring to.

You didn't claim there's no consistency, you spouted some blatant hypocrisy and falsehoods, and now you are trying to change your story without actually saying anything. Just vague deflections and more lies.

You know what I wrote is accurate, so now you are trying to claim that what I said is what you said. It's rather pathetic-- talk about failing miserably and changing one's tune after the fact. Go figure, more hypocrisy.

There is an explanation for the difference. It becomes price gouging when those in the supply chain (producers, wholesalers, and retailers) make record profits and their profitability (as a percent of revenue) of the company goes up. In defense of companies, its hard to keep adjusting for inflation as the target is always moving and it more difficult to actually predict the actual cost of goods sold. Volatility provides an opportunity for profit enhancement.

That is not intended to be a left/right answer, just an answer to a good question.

Her father is a Marxist.

She is a Marxist. Anybody who votes for her is anti-American and responsible for what happens.

Think food shortages and the county looking like San Francisco.

Keep that same energy for those that vote for the wannabe dictator.

Bro- this simplistic, reductive rhetoric of yours lies at the heart of why we can be fellow Dawg fans (and even perhaps 'backyard BBQ'/Browns tailgate friends), yet completely disagree on nuanced issues such as politics.

You seem to have recently migrated from routinely dropping the term "Communist" to now dropping the term "Marxist" in your PP posts.
Does this signal an evolution of your thought process, or is it simply a tactical move to avoid recent criticism about your flagrant misuse of the word "Communist?"

My guess is the latter option, since you've been incredibly consistent in your world view for years... in this forum.

Marx used socialism and communism interchangeably when describing a post-capitalist society. Marxist is the term Kamala's father used to describe some of the courses he taught. For that reason, "Marxist" is probably trending on Twitter/Google.

Sometimes people get tired of saying the same thing over and over that gets ignored by some other people because they don't like a certain word and try using another that means essentially the same thing to see if it gets through the filter.

Just because you attach a certain "definition"/connotation to "Communist" doesn't make it THE sole definition. If there's been a flagrant misuse of words, it might be your use of "flagrant misuse." "In a way I (or others) don't like" would seem to be more accurate.

Again, I'm not supporting the conclusions about Marxism/socialism/communism expressed in Ballpeen's post, but the words/systems/ideas themselves would appear to be relevant to recent political "happenings," regardless of the negative connotations some have attached to them.

Reactionary denial and valid criticism aren't really the same thing.

You and 'Peen, both, (and others) might benefit from reading some Karl Marx instead of just throwing words around.

Hope you have your pool noodle handy

Thank you for your input.

You once tried trolling me for responding to a post of someone's while not also addressing comments by a different poster - Pit. I won't do that because just like it's not my job to police the board it's not yours either.

I will highlight a couple of points, aside from the education and recommendation on reading Marx:

While Donald Harris was factually a Marxist economist - [1] How does it then get accepted as fact the Kamala is then herself a Marxist? [2] How then is is acceptable to then state voting for Kamala is unamerican.

It's odd that if the boot was on the other foot and posters like Daman and Pit had made such claims and distortions of 'fact' - but instead of being about Kamala they were about Trump ... I have no doubt you would be very quick to step in and highlight the error of their posts ... and yet here we are.

It’s so flipping obvious goper’s don’t know what communism is.

I frequently have to put Pit on ignore because it's impossible to have a constructive conversation with someone who says one thing and then claims to have said the complete opposite later.

[1] It gets accepted because many of the things she says seem to be informed by and align with ideas espoused in Marxism. I've never claimed that's a bad thing. I'd prefer to have a rational discussion about the actual ideas, but it's hard to get to that when people insist on denying things are what they are.

[2] I never said it was. I literally replied to his post chiding him to say the same thing about Trump supporters if that was the case. Why didn't you address that post?

If by trolling you mean pointing out your BS, yes, I am once again trolling you.

Says the master of bs.

"Communism aims to eliminate class inequality and exploitation of labor." "Economic policies are created to promote labor rights and welfare." These are some key points of Communism. (As given by the AI response to a google search of "Communism, highlights")

Do these not sound like things Kamala Harris supports? Why does the left try to so hard to deny the label instead of pointing at this and asking why that would be a bad thing?

You completely talked past his post. My guess is that your goal was to assert some sort of intellectual superiority so you brought up something “oranges” to the “apples” of his post.

Says the guy with nothing to add but emojis, random mouth noises (Pffft), and *gasp* BS. At least you seem to be implying/admitting that you aren't very good at it despite how prolific you are with it.

Now I just need to figure how to work "Master of BS" into my sig. I'll wear it as a badge of honor.

What was the heart of his post? He talks about 'Peen's use of Communist changing to Marxist. I presented a theory as to why he may have done so. (Marx's use of the words and the appearance of Marxism in the public lexicon recently.)

Did I also go back and tie it to previous discussion in the thread? Yes.

It's not about intellectual superiority. It's about trying to get people to show some intellectual honesty despite how they've been "trained"/societally "conditioned" to treat certain words.

This is basically guilt by association. Daddy teaches Marxism so Kamala is a Marxist.

Same ploy as the judges daughter works for democrats, therefore the judge is biased.

Don Junior, Eric, Ivanka, Tiffany and Baron are a bit nervous if this holds.

You're one of the biggest trolls on here. You wrap it up well and sometimes dress it up, but most of your posts are baiting and trolling. Kamala is a Marxist.... Yeah. Coz u said so, riiiight.