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p.s. at least he has respectable taste in handguns, though I think that having a .40 is reason to question his judgement a little, lol


As for "can anyone buy a gun these days?"
Yes, it is the United States. You're free to own one until you demonstrate that you shouldn't have one.

Did you actually read the articles? What were they fighting about? I'm not excusing him, but I don't think the girl friend is really an "innocent" party. And, yes, there was a bit of devil's advocate in what I wrote. Too many people seemed eager to kick Hall to the curb before the whole story comes out.

It's pretty safe to say that in most domestic problems both sides share some culpability.

I will certainly agree that in order for two people to get into such a volatile situation both people have to be involved or there is no volatile situation to begin with. It's when one goes beyond the bounds of the law that matters in the end.

Aditi does work for the Browns

as well all suspected

No disagreement.

Just a general opinion here, guys don't know when to walk away and women need to know when to quit pushing buttons they need to quit pushing.

If not it ends up in a bad situation.

I was never quite sure how to feel about these stories until I saw the ESPN episode regarding the Duke Lacrosse rape case.

nice interview by him

A few incidents combined with a rather unforgiving media had me typecast Jameis a long time ago. I'm sure he's grown, but boy was I wrong, and I'm served up more of a lesson every time I hear him talk.

People can change and mature over time. Some people learn their lessons quickly and move on from their mistakes. Once they face them, admit to them and address them, they can begin the process of change.

I’ll say, if you were a smart young man who was maybe riding the edge of league year in and year out, never guaranteed a spot but good enough for a backup role, the smartest thing to do would be to make yourself as useful to the team as humanly possible. Be a super positive force, avoid seeing them as your competitors and just support and help the people above you succeed and you’re just much more likely to succeed yourself. Things generally work out for people who help the whole thing roll if the organization is truly functional. In the director roles I’ve have in various companies I’ve had a few of these people over the years and assuming they’re not just incompetent brown noses you keep these people around. They’re important.

Always. That's what directors, owners, managers and those in the know call "the glue".

j/c:

Should the Browns target free agent RBs Dalvin Cook or Jerick McKinnon?

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...alvin-cook-or-jerick-mckinnon-video.html

I like McKinnon more than Cook - he's great on 3rd down

I say roll with who we got. It’s not ideal but it’s not compete crap either. I think Ford is underrated by the fan base, and I’d like to see what Strong can do with more carries…as long as he doesn’t fumble the ball.

I’m disappointed in Robbins although I don’t know why since I didn’t expect much considering his odd college career. But I was kind of hoping it would be similar to Braelon Allen with the Jets…in the mold of a bigger back that looks the nfl part. Looks like he might take carries away from Hall, which is a pretty big deal considering Hall is being considered as one of the best in the game right now.

I agree w/the take on Strong - he IS fast and can get downhill, but man is he loose with the ball

Kevin Stefanski on the preseason loss to Vikings, D’Onta Foreman, injuries and more: Transcript
Story by Irie Harris, cleveland.com

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LEVELAND, Ohio — Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski took questions from reporters on Saturday at Cleveland Browns Stadium regarding the preseason loss to Minnesota, D’Onta Foreman, injuries and more.

Below is the transcript as provided by the Browns media relations department:

Kevin Stefanski on the preseason loss to Vikings, D’Onta Foreman, injuries and more: Transcript
Story by Irie Harris, cleveland.com 

Opening Statement:

“Okay, hard to win when you’re minus three, so that was disappointing. Some good and bad out there that we will certainly learn from. I think some good stuff to evaluate our players on, but I thought that caps a really good week with the (Minnesota) Vikings back to Wednesday and Thursday, got really, really solid work in and then this is another piece of it with getting some work done tonight and then we’ll turn our attention to Seattle next week. But any questions, I’ll take.”

The tackles, can you go through those injuries?

“Yeah, I don’t have a ton to add. James (Hudson III), dealing with an ankle injury. These are all things that we’ll get tests on. (Hakeem) Adeniji, knee, get tests on that and then Germain (Ifedi) has a hand, finger injury.”

Can you just talk about the impact of basically having your tackle depth go down?

 

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“Yeah, I mean, it’s obviously – like we’ve talked about this a lot, Mary Kay (Cabot), with injuries, nobody likes them. It’s the worst part of this game, feel badly for all those guys and then we’ll rehab and get them back as soon as we can.”

How would you assess the way your quarterbacks played?

“Some good and some bad. And that’s where that constant desire for our quarterbacks is to operate consistently. I thought there were some really good moments and then some things you can definitely learn from with those two players.”

And Jamari Thrash, these two games and his training camp, how has he progressed?

“I think he’s done a nice job, Jeff (Schudel). I think he’s a guy that takes his job very seriously. He works very hard. He gets extra anytime he’s out there. So, I see a young man who’s progressing. He’s still a rookie, going to make mistakes, but I think he continues to get better with more exposure.”

What happened to Zaire (Mitchell-Paden) there at the end? Did he come off?

“I think he’s fine.”

What did you see from D’Onta (Foreman) just in his first game and not only his first touchdown, but just how else have you seen him be productive?

“Ran very hard, that’s kind of his game. He puts his weight down and stays low and goes forward. I thought that’s what he did when he got the ball in his hands and obviously had a nose for the goal line there down to our left.”

Do you expect Jed (Willis Jr.) back at practice soon?

“We’ll see.”

Do you have a tough decision to make whether or not you’re going to keep three quarterbacks and hop out the battle between those two guys?

“I think you have a tough decision up and down the roster, Mary Kay (Cabot), I really do. But we’ve talked about that. That group, I feel really strongly about all four of those guys.”

The directive was to kick the ball out of the end zone at that point is that true?

“Yes.”

Why? You just got in enough work?

“We got plenty of work. I think this week, both days on Wednesday and Thursday, we did kickoff, kickoff return.”

Does Dustin Hopkins have an injury?

“He’s working through something, but he’ll be fine.”

You think he’ll play week one?

“Yes.”

And you’ve done this before, did somebody else call plays today?

“Yes.”

And Ken (Dorsey) called some?

“Called some of them. Yeah, we had other assistants call them as well and did the same thing the first game.”

As you move towards the opener, now you’ve only got three weeks left, do you think that you’ll have either Jed (Wills Jr.) or Jack (Conklin) back at left tackle?

“As you know, Mary Kay, with any type of injury and guys are rehabbing, I take it day-by-day, and they update me. When they’re ready, they’ll be ready. But they’re both locked-in, working very hard and we’ll get them back when they’re back.”



Will that impact in any way what happens with Deshaun (Watson) in Seattle?

“We’ll see. I mean, the plan is for Deshaun to play. Obviously, I take in all the information week-to-week, day-to-day, but that is the plan.”

Kevin, was it just status quo to let Mike Hall play based on you guys letting him practice earlier? Are you going with the same thing you said the other day?

“Yeah, I don’t have much to add there, Nate (Ulrich). Like you mentioned, practice, played, but not much to add.”

You mentioned, I think it was Thursday we talked to you, that he (Hall) might be out a while, but obviously he came right back.

“Yeah, was injured and with an injury, you never know how long your guys will be out. He bounced back.”

How about Jamari Thrash? How has he comported himself in these first two games and in this camp so far?

“He’s done a very nice job. Like I said earlier, he’s a guy that I feel like gets better with exposure, gets better with reps, continues to know what to do, which is a big part of this as well, and then makes plays with the ball in his hand.”



Kevin, you told us you liked the energy and structure at practices. Once you watched the film, did you like what you saw overall?

“Yeah, I thought it was outstanding work. And just talking to their coaches, both pregame and post-game, everybody kind of felt the same way. It was really, really good work. It was good versus good. It was impressive battles back and forth. It’s going to make us better going up against those looks, it’s going to make them better going up against our looks. So very, very beneficial to both sides.

Do you have an update on Denzel (Ward), Amari (Cooper), David (Bell)?

“No update. All rehabbing.”

Is Denzel still in the protocol?

“Yes.”

Kevin, what did you think of the run defense today?

“Yeah, I thought by and large was good. They ripped off a couple downhill runs, but I think you saw certainly in the second half, maybe the guys did a nice job of staying in their gaps.”



When you have interceptions that go off receivers’ hands, do you give half to the quarterback, half to the receiver? How do you determine who’s…?

“Yeah, it’s a good point. You tell the quarterbacks ‘not all interceptions are created equal’. So, we talk about that in terms of decision making. But even when they go off their hands, you look at the accuracy and could the quarterback have been better? And then our receivers, runners, tight ends, all of our guys, if they get their hands on it, they expect to catch it.”

What has Chris Williams showed you throughout training camp in addition to tonight?

“Yeah, very hard worker. Does a great job in the building. One of the first guys in, last to leave and then plays with great effort. I think that’s the thing you see the most on tape, both on the practice field and on the game field.

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I'll tell you my belief: he (and/or his agent) feel miffed that he wasn't given an extension and are playing that game

I agree something is not right. If these OL issues are not ironed out we could be in for a long season. We ended last season with OL issues and we still are not healthy. WE need this to be resolved.

I've considered this as well. Reports at the time were the surgery was successful.

I agree AB will do something. Bakhtiari is a good option. We have too much talent to let this OL problem get the best of us and hurt the team. I would be contacting Bahktiari this week

Bakhtiari has played in 13 games total over the past 3 seasons. He might be done. That's fewer than Conklin. Bakhtiari has had (at least) 5 surgeries on the bad knee.

Might be worth a check up, but I'm not sure adding another guy coming off injury is the direction I would take.

Saw this a few weeks ago:

Cleveland Browns Linked To Major Talent To Bolster Offensive Line
The Cleveland Browns are being urged to sign a major offensive line free agent before the season.
Evan Massey | Aug 5, 2024

The Cleveland Browns are a team to watch ahead of the regular season. Andrew Berry and company are hoping to make a run at the playoffs this season and are likely open to making moves to improve those chances.

During the offseason, the Browns made some aggressive moves. One of those moves was to acquire wide receiver Jerry Jeudy from the Denver Broncos. They clearly want to compete and win at a high level.

Could that lead to them making another move or two before the season?

Bleacher Report took a look at three free agents that Cleveland should pursue. One of the names mentioned was former Kansas City Chiefs' offensive lineman Donovan Smith.

"Cleveland may not need Smith in a few weeks if Wills and Conklin are back in starting-caliber form, but right now, the Browns should explore all of their options in case a setback occurs so that they can properly protect Deshaun Watson starting in Week 1."
As the article states, Smith may not end up being a long-term key piece for the Browns. He might not even start. However, adding offensive line depth would be a wise move to make.

Deshaun Watson missed most of the 2023 season due to injury. Keeping him upright and healthy should be a top priority heading into the 2024 campaign.
Smith could help with that goal. Even if he doesn't start, he would be ready to step in and play in the event of an injury. He might also be able to earn a starting job before the regular season.

While it wouldn't be a flashy move or a signing of a guaranteed starter, depth is a necessity for teams that want to compete. Assuming the money is team-friendly, Cleveland should consider making this move.

https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/cleveland-browns-linked-to-major-talent-to-bolster-offensive-line

I would do whatever it takes to sign/acquire an OT within reason. Donovan Smith or whatever. We need AT LEAST one more OT before Dallas

j/c...

I don't think Okorafor is our answer lol but we gotta try anything

It might be more we just need a body to trot out there at all than truly trying to find an answer.

I'm not having the greatest feelings about the season's prospects.

this training camp has really given me a bad vibe too. We are a literal skeleton unit, guys missing tons of practices, mixing up units ... it would be a miracle if we play well the first few weeks IMO

I think I have a solution to keep our starters healthy. We should start the season with all our backups playing. By doing this our starters won't get hurt. Then, if our backups get hurt then and only then we can replace them with our starters. Problem solved!!!