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Originally Posted by FrankZ
You didn't watch it but you feel the need to comment on it?

Does it make you feel all growed up to call people tards?

Thanks for a good laugh Franky. That is the funniest post I have read for a long time. Bless your heart.

I'll take another post from you seriously if you ever address 'tard' comments every single time they are posted. Till then you can continue to be the laughing stock you just made yourself.


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Originally Posted by RememberMuni
Trump won the debate. How do I know? Check the polls. MAGA LANDSLIDE ‘24!

What polls are you looking at?


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Originally Posted by FrankZ
You didn't watch it but you feel the need to comment on it?

Does it make you feel all growed up to call people tards?

Thanks for a good laugh Franky. That is the funniest post I have read for a long time. Bless your heart.

I'll take another post from you seriously if you ever address 'tard' comments every single time they are posted. Till then you can continue to be the laughing stock you just made yourself.

I'm not here to police everyone saying tard.

Of course this is more of your wonderful and insightful wisdom we couldn't live without. Winning!

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But you are here to patently refuse to call it out. But that's par for the course on here. You aren't alone in that.


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Father Of Boy Killed In Ohio Bus Crash Rips Vance, Trump For Fanning Hate Against Haitians

“I wish that my son, Aiden Clark, was killed by a 60-year-old white man,” said Nathan Clark, denouncing “morally bankrupt” Republicans using his son for political gain.

The father of an 11-year-old Ohio boy killed last year in a bus crash involving a Haitian immigrant driver lashed out on Tuesday at Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and his running mate, Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), for spreading hate at the expense of his son.

He also begged GOP politicians to stop using his son’s name “as a political tool” to fuel racist attacks on Haitian immigrants in his small community.

“I wish that my son, Aiden Clark, was killed by a 60-year-old white man,” Nathan Clark read aloud from a piece of paper during a Springfield City Commission meeting, next to his wife, who was choking back tears. “I bet you never thought anyone would say something so blunt. But if that guy killed my 11-year-old son, the incessant group of hate-spewing people would leave us alone.”

Aiden was killed in August 2023 when Hermanio Joseph, a Haitian immigrant, crashed his minivan into the boy’s school bus. Joseph, who was reportedly driving with a foreign license not valid in Ohio, was convicted of first-degree felony involuntary manslaughter and fourth-degree felony vehicular homicide.

Vance has been using Clark’s story to spread outrageous lies about Haitian immigrants. He’s amplified bogus “reports” that Haitians in Springfield have been abducting people’s pets and eating them — and when pressed on his false claims, he’s only doubled down.

Trump amplified these lies in Tuesday night’s debate. “In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs,” he claimed. “The people that came in, they’re eating the cats. They’re eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what’s happening in our country. And it’s a shame.”

Trump’s and Vance’s recent smears of Haitian immigrants are part of a broader anti-immigrant message that’s been a centerpiece of their campaign for the White House.

In his Tuesday remarks, Clark condemned the hatred toward Haitian immigrants that politicians have fueled by bringing up his son’s death.

“They make it seem as though our wonderful Aiden appreciates your hate. That we should follow their hate,” he said. “Look what you’ve done to us. We have to get up here and beg them to stop. Using Aiden as a political tool is, to say the least, reprehensible for any political purpose.”

He also named the “morally bankrupt” politicians who have been using Aiden’s name to fan anti-immigrant hatred: Trump, Vance, Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) and Ohio Senate GOP nominee Bernie Moreno.

“They have spoken my son’s name and used his death for political gain,” said Clark. ”This needs to stop. Now.”

He added that he wanted “to clear the air” about what happened to Aiden.

“My son, Aiden Clark, was not murdered. He was accidentally killed by an immigrant from Haiti,” said Clark. “Don’t spin this toward hate. In order to live like Aiden, you need to accept everyone.”

Attendees applauded as he finished his remarks.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aide...oRpC9jRqO54hA_aem_fKSuseeuT4ZaosGF7Dkvng

This is what it looks like when people use things like this for political gain rather then respect the wishes of a father who lost his son.


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Originally Posted by BADdog
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Trump won the debate. How do I know? Check the polls. MAGA LANDSLIDE ‘24!

What polls are you looking at?


Every one of them.

Although the polls show Trump with a 6 pt lead. You’re right the polls are wrong.

Trump wins in a landslide.

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Even your old buddies at FOX News say that is a lie......

Trump-Harris race neck and neck nationally in new survey, pollster sees 'warning sign' for Dems

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...w-survey-pollster-sees-warning-sign-dems

Of course they're sending a "warning" in hopes they can help change that but the presidential race is in a dead tie.............

Harris, Trump locked in dead heat: Poll

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4870021-harvard-caps-poll-trump-harris-debate/

This poll says people think harris won the debate by a 2 to 1 margin and has harris ahead by almost 3 percentage points which is still very much in the margin of error..................

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...st-tracker-debate-election-b2610255.html

Of course as per usual you just post crazy statements with no sources to back them up.


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Originally Posted by RememberMuni
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Trump won the debate. How do I know? Check the polls. MAGA LANDSLIDE ‘24!

What polls are you looking at?


Every one of them.

Although the polls show Trump with a 6 pt lead. You’re right the polls are wrong.

Trump wins in a landslide.

Is that the same "every one" that wants roe vs wade overturned?


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How about you give us the name of one Venezuelan insane asylum? Just 1


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ABC News’ broadcast of Tuesday’s first presidential debate between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump reeled in nearly 58 million viewers, according to early ratings data from Nielsen.

The highly-anticipated faceoff, which saw 57.7 million viewers across ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, Fox and CNN, surpassed the eyeballs drawn by President Biden’s debate against Trump in June, which garnered 51.3 million.

ABC News, which hosted Tuesday’s debate drew 18.3 million viewers, followed by Fox-owned channels Fox, Fox News and Fox Business, with a total of 13.7 million total viewers. NBC drew 9.7 million, while CBS reeled in 5.9 million. MSNBC and CNN attracted 6 million and 4.1 million, respectively.

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Originally Posted by BADdog
Its a swing and a miss! The point was people from insane asylums will be taking jobs. Who the hell uses the term insane asylum anymore? Oh I know people who are trying to scare other people.

Insane asylum people are coming to take your jobs to eat your pets!!!


"Insane asylum" and insane (adjective) asylums are two different things. Whether or not Trump knows that, I can't say.


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Originally Posted by BADdog
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Is that the same "every one" that wants roe vs wade overturned?



Ever known someone that’s had one?

I can assure you, it’s never the right answer. But, hey keep being wild and careless about it.

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When the man you support keeps telling crazy lies about it, it seems much more wild and careless than it actually is.

In red state after red state voters have chosen to overturn or prevent their state state lawmakers attempts to ban abortions. I'm pretty eure that you've never had an abortion either. I'm going to have to trust the voice of women over a man that presumably has no vagina or uterus.


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When does this “cluster of cells” become self-sufficient?

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Originally Posted by RememberMuni
When does this “cluster of cells” become self-sufficient?

Truthfully? Never, for most people. Most people, without a job, rely on gov't. assistance. Those with a job rely on the job to pay them money so they can buy food, and shelter. You know, just how a baby relies on mom for food, and shelter until they're born. At that point, they rely on mom and dad for food and shelter, and clothes, etc.


This "clump of cells" b.s. is just that: B.S. We are ALL a clump of cells that, for the most part, can't take care of ourselves with out others helping us in some manner. In essence, we are all dependent on others.

If you are FOR abortion because a baby is a "clump of cells", beware: You, too, are nothing but a clump of cells. Shall we determine what clump of needy cells should be saved/killed?

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You seem to be the expert on this topic so I'll allow you to determine that. I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you. Science says it is between 22 and 24 weeks. Once again I'll have to trust scientists over someone who is not a scientist.


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Ok fair enough. According to your sources, a child is self sufficient at 22-24 weeks.

Based on my life experience, it’s more like 4 years old. - That’s when a child can feed itself.

Until then, it’s just a clump of cells.

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Pit, or any of us, is just a clump of cells. Without assistance, none of us survive. You, me, pit, etc.

Think you're self sufficient? Go out and totally grow your own food. Build your own shelter. Make a fire, from scratch, to keep you warm. Bathe in a river or pond or whatever.

Self sufficient? Prove it.

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. Once again I'll have to trust scientists over someone who is not a scientist.

Science also told us in the late 70's that an ice age was imminent.

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This is an interesting poll. I haven't seen it broke down like this....



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Originally Posted by RememberMuni
When does this “cluster of cells” become self-sufficient?

18-20 years....maybe more.

If even one cell was discovered on Mars and brought back to earth, it would be protected.


If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

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But you are here to patently refuse to call it out. But that's par for the course on here. You aren't alone in that.

And your point?

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Biden out there supporting Donald Trump.



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Originally Posted by RememberMuni
Ok fair enough. According to your sources, a child is self sufficient at 22-24 weeks.

Based on my life experience, it’s more like 4 years old. - That’s when a child can feed itself.

Until then, it’s just a clump of cells.

You’re showing growth, but I think you still suffer from a fact deficit.

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Trump lost the election last night. I just want that out there so y’all MAGAs have time to let it sink in… might prevent that civil war.

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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
Trump lost the election last night. I just want that out there so y’all MAGAs have time to let it sink in… might prevent that civil war.


Trump won the debate as everyone that I’ve talked to couldn’t believe how he had to debate 3 people. - All independents. - Not anymore.

Trump will win in a landslide. Bank on it.


As for the clump of cells thing, you wouldn’t hurt a 4 year old and you shouldn’t support hurting a 22 week old.

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Trump got owned... I read most of this entire thread... Laughed at the stupid predictions made by several MAGA headed folks on here... (you know who you are)

The ONLY ones saying Trump is Trump and a few talking heads. They are referring to polls that you can't find anywhere. THey are full of it..

Trump got his butt handed to him.


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Whining about unfair this and that is the #1 sign he lost. Just like my 6-year old.


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
Whining about unfair this and that is the #1 sign he lost. Just like my 6-year old.

Dont insult your 6 year old like that


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If one didn't like Trump before the debate, one still won't. If one did like him, nothing changed. Trump is who he has been.

I'm not sure Kamala said anything that would attract the undecided.

I'm not sure the ability to spin up unstable wannabe dictators is a good thing for a President to rely on.

Felt more like a Punch and Judy skit than a Presidential debate.



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. Once again I'll have to trust scientists over someone who is not a scientist.

Science also told us in the late 70's that an ice age was imminent.

You're trying to compare a prediction to human viability. They're not even close to things worthy of a comparison. Being self sufficient as a human being isn't the same thing as a fetus having a chance to survival outside the uterus.


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I'm not sure Kamala said anything that would attract the undecided.



and trump did? or the undecided will just remain undecided. I think you dont understand the magnitude of her stance on abortion. I think that will win this election above all other things.


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This is what we witnessed but Gopers will sugarcoat every L this pos is handed.

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I just had this conversation with my wife. There was nothing that either would say that would cause anyone to depart from their bases.

Undecideds? These two are so different that I can’t see anyone as an undecided. Polar opposites.


Also, I want to thank everyone on here.. Left, Right, rich, poor, for participating in this forum and taking my mind off of one of the worst weeks in history as a Browns fan. A horrible loss followed by horrible player news.

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Where did you get that pic? Do they have any of Catherine Bell or Molly Qerim?!!!!

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Originally Posted by RememberMuni
Trump won the debate as everyone that I’ve talked to couldn’t believe how he had to debate 3 people. - All independents. - Not anymore.

‘Trump lost’ the debate, Pittsburgh Republicans admit after feeling confident before showdown started

https://nypost.com/2024/09/11/us-news/trump-lost-the-debate-pittsburgh-republicans-admit/

GOP pollster Frank Luntz: Debate will cost Trump the election

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4875745-frank-luntz-donald-trump-kamala-harris-debate/

GOP lawmakers say Trump debate performance fell short

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/11/gop-lawmakers-trump-debate-performance

Even many republicans are willing to admit the truth that he lost this debate. Now I don't actually agree with the Republican pollster who claims that this debate will in and of itself cost trump the election but I find it interesting that he does.

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As for the clump of cells thing, you wouldn’t hurt a 4 year old and you shouldn’t support hurting a 22 week old.

Which is a crazy thing to say since there's actually no comparison here. It appears you don't understand a basic concept. Every baby born needs someone to feed them and care for them after they're born. That's totally different than at what stage a fetus becomes viable.

By about 22-24 weeks a fetus has a chance of survival outside the uterus.


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Always with the where, who and what? Never with the why? We get it.


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Always with the where, who and what? Never with the why? We get it.

Oh no you didn't!

He really goes off the rails when you mention guns!


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Always with the where, who and what? Never with the why? We get it.


Not following.. please clarify.

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I'm not sure Kamala said anything that would attract the undecided.



and trump did? or the undecided will just remain undecided. I think you dont understand the magnitude of her stance on abortion. I think that will win this election above all other things.

Exactly. The undecided will remain undecided. I think there are a lot more undecided than you think. Biden was the "at least he won't do anything crazy" candidate. I'm not sure Harris has that going for her. She's still got a sense of no one knows what she's willing to do as she avoids answering questions.

I get that many people care about abortion. I think a lot of people realize that the President has more pressing concerns and other areas are more relevant in a day to day sense. Abortions are already protected in some Blue states. People need to able to afford food, gas, and housing. Most people don't necessarily need to be able to get an abortion. Sure, they'd like the option, but I think it is not the greatest reason to vote for someone.

I do think Trump is taking the wrong tack on abortion. Instead of attacking her position, just say the states should decide. But that's fine, as he shouldn't be President.

Unfortunately, I don't think she should be either.

Alas, the choices keep staying between bad and worse. And the government bureaucracy and corporations that fund those at the top keep amassing power.


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