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Originally Posted by FATE
The context where he said they donated a $hit-ton of money and can't even get an endorsement out of it. It's about thirty posts up before you turfed the entire field kicking the ball at unicorns and the economy.

It is a tired, tired, tired act, and there's not a single poster in this arena that doesn't see it for what it is.

Oh I saw it. But that doesn't change the fact that it was he who prefaced the comment with "the economy is so bad" which it totally false. As I said, it doesn't change anything. And I'm sure you trumpians all pretty much see things the same. But you're not every "single poster in this arena" no matter your claim. As Reagan would say, "There you go again."


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You mean "these" blue collar workers. I guess you missed the huge list of all the unions that endorsed Kamala. Not that I'm surprised by that.


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Well, you sound like a little four-year-old. Wanting to argue five words in a thread that has nothing to do with it. And argue over the economy? Millions ands millions and millions and millions of Americans say they can't pay their bills or afford groceries -- you want to pull some meaningless "stats" to argue against that -- in a thread about the Teamsters.

By the way Lar, your post will be the last about the economy in this thread. Go get 'em, tiger.


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I'm not the one who brought up the economy in this thread. That was you. #deflection

Facing the vast improvement in our economy is obviously something you have trouble owning up to.


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You mean "these" blue collar workers. I guess you missed the huge list of all the unions that endorsed Kamala. Not that I'm surprised by that.

Union endorsements doesn’t equate to membership support.


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So your assertion is based on a comment made by a trumpian. Figures.


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Imagine if they do a recount with sKamala as the candidate?!




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I'm starting to think union members hate Marxism more than someone with differing views on the balance between labor and management.

Especially when the latter is actually fighting for those that put in the hard work in this country.

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Pit takes the L because, yet again, he can't stay on topic.


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Fate is bringing the facts. I love it.


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This is exactly what's happening. Across every demographic. some of them more dramatic in their shift than any time in history.




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Claiming you're starting to think is an oxymoron.

It's odd you say some of the things you say. It was biden standing on the picket line with the UAW.

Meanwhile......

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/w_zJCwwhxJY


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Biden was on the picket line? Well, that changes everything!


What is an example of an oxymoron?
“Awfully good,” “bittersweet,” “same difference,” and “original copy” are a few oxymoron examples.


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Oxymoron - a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction

Yes, he was willing to stand beside on the picket line them while trump was laughing about how great it was when Musk fired striking workers.


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rofl

You and your fake twitter BS.


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So "starting" and "thinking" are contradictory terms??

You certainly know how to remove the "oxy" from a word.


Here's two more:

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I wonder what went down when they met? Maybe the puppet-masters only approved certain promises and they weren't good enough? Maybe no teleprompter?

I guess she should have reminded them that Joe was on the pickety line. rofl




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I would say that unions not endorsing kamala is more of a self serving move. The d's have allowed how many millions to enter this country illegally? Those people are looking for jobs. Not unions, jobs.

Unions are seeing that their jobs might be at risk.


On a side note, and I don't hate unions by any stretch - they've done some good things - but they've also gotten greedy.

So, the side note: Back in the 70's my grandpa started a business. It became the largest scaffold manufacturer in the country, and one of the largest in the world.

Grandpa was a family guy, and his employees were family. A "problem" employee started a move to become unionized. He was all about how "we could make an extra $1.50 an hour if we become union." And back then, that was big money.

He threatened to strike. Grandpa said "fine. I'm going on vacation. This is the number you can reach me at when you want to work again." This was before cell phones, obviously.

He pad locked all the doors and said "We're closed for business until I hear from you."

Took a week.

That same company, many years later, was bought by a German company, which a few years later sold it to a French company. To this day they are non union, and the employees are happy as can be.

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Originally Posted by FATE
You
Suck at this

Sometimes I actually feel sorry for you.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by FATE
You
Suck at this

Sometimes I actually feel sorry for you.

Sometimes I feel the same for you.

Day times

Night times


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And I'm willing to bet the reason they're so happy is because the wages and benefits are competitive with the unions. Where I worked was the same way. We had good pay and good benefits because they knew they would lose good workers to the union if they couldn't compete with them. The unions are who brought about paid vacations, a 40 hour work week, paid healthcare benefits, paid sick days and many other of the things many workers have today. And now non union shops have to provide those things to their workers in order to compete.

Of course if your business is in a location where there aren't ample union jobs available workers are happy with less than that because it's still better than other jobs in their area.


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Originally Posted by FATE
Sometimes I feel the same for you.

Day times

Night times

So I live rent free in your mind both day and night. Yet another reason to feel sorry for you.


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Yeah, that's what that means. thumbsup

I've grown bored. Have fun faking the funk with the union spin the rest of the day.


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That's certainly what it sounds like it meant. I like watching you squirm around and when I log off in the afaternoons I never give it any more thought. You never cross my mind for the rest of that day much less at night.

Just because you ran out of union spin you're pretending you're bored. I understand how much people giving context on topics seems to bother you. Good luck with that moving forward.


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This is pit in denial to himself that Fate lives in his head.


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He's not on my mind "day and night". rofl

Harris campaign: Councils representing one million Teamsters endorse Kamala Harris

The list of local Teamsters organizations endorsing Vice President Harris includes:

Teamster Retirees
Teamsters National Black Caucus
Teamsters Joint Council 43 (Michigan)
Teamsters Joint Council 39 (Wisconsin)
Teamsters Joint Council 42 (Southern Nevada)
Teamsters Joint Council 7 (Northern Nevada)
Teamsters Joint Council 40 (Western PA and Northern WV)
Teamsters Joint Council 28 (WA, AK and Northern ID)
Teamsters Joint Council 32 (MN, IA, ND, SD, and WI)
Teamsters Joint Council 25 (Illinois)
Teamsters Joint Council 13 (Missouri)
Teamsters Local 623(Philadelphia, PA)
Teamsters Local 122(Boston, MA)
Teamsters Local 186 (Ventura, CA)
Teamsters Local 572(Carson, CA)
Teamsters Local 769(Miami, FL)
Teamsters Local 848(Long Beach, CA)
Teamsters Local 238 (Cedar Rapids, IA)
Teamsters Local 237 (NYC)
Teamsters Local 396 (Southern California)
Teamsters Local 89(Kentucky and Indiana)
Teamsters Local 202 (New York)


https://www.wispolitics.com/2024/ha...million-teamsters-endorse-kamala-harris/

But then again facts have never been your friend.


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"Councils" don't vote, members do. Actual facts that are everybody's friend. wink


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Denial is your only friend. Your claim all along is how the teamsters union as a whole didn't endorse Harris. Yet when you are shown that many of the locals representing over one million members did endorse her suddenly you try to make that sound differently.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Denial is your only friend. Your claim all along is how the teamsters union as a whole didn't endorse Harris. Yet when you are shown that many of the locals representing over one million members did endorse her suddenly you try to make that sound differently.


There are 1.3M members of the teamsters. Your math either doesn't add up or locals are ignoring their members wishes. Neither is the flex you think it is m

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It's not "my math".


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This is an L, but how big of an effect will this have on the vote? Everything is a toss up, so the margins matter


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So Biden helps saves the teamsters pension fund with Harris as the deciding vote, Biden walks a union picket line and trump has said that anybody that strikes should be fired and they don't endorse? At least it looks like many local chapters are supporting Harris.

And as for the members, you are going against your best interest

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Originally Posted by northlima dawg
So Biden helps saves the teamsters pension fund with Harris as the deciding vote, Biden walks a union picket line and trump has said that anybody that strikes should be fired and they don't endorse? At least it looks like many local chapters are supporting Harris.

And as for the members, you are going against your best interest


This pretty much sums up the way I've seen it, all along.


btw: My union is on that sizeable list of of VP Harris' Labor endorsements.
Can't say I disagree with their choice.


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Originally Posted by FATE
I guess you missed the thread title.

please note that the Teamsters haven't endorsed Trump either. I"m not 100% but I don't think any locals have either.. You are all happy because you selectively pick and chose what you think is good news.

Trump is 100% against Unions as Project 2025 clearly shows.


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You're spreading misinformation. According to Hillary Clinton you should be prosecuted and put in jail.


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
You're spreading misinformation. According to Hillary Clinton you should be prosecuted and put in jail.

Watch out everyone, Eve is on a rampage. Her tinder date ghosted her and she’s feeling some type of way.


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