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DW is horrible. That is all.

Team has regressed from preseason

The O line stunk. We had plenty of chances to win that at the end and blew all of 'em.

I'm gonna watch the Cowboys/Ravens.

They look like '99 again. Completely unacceptable. Jimmy Haslam needs to address the media. The Giants were 0-2 and regarded as the worst team in the nfl. They look like a disorganized high school team. We didn’t wait 25 years, go through an 0-16 season, and tank for 3 years just to receive a team that, at best , will win 8 games this year. Completely unacceptable crap.


You are a complete moron if you pay for tickets to this crap.

Oh and btw, The Steelers are 3-0. Unflipping Real.

Not a rant.

Last season there were multiple OL injuries and the OL seemed to do okay

This season is starting off with OL injuries

Is it that the OL are missing Callahan

Or did Flacco help the OL more with his QB play ?

This team will never win anything with this FO and staff. They are average at best but so many want to blame DW when no one is winning with this oline and playcalling. Not to mention our lack of talent on offense. Letting Callahan go without an adequate replacement should be a fireable offense. Stefanski running Watson off the field for Winston on a 3rd and short and then the next play running Watson out of shotgun shows how bad he really is. Best thing that can happen is we lose horribly every game so Haslam has to get rid of this staff or this will be the result every year, and slowly get worse as guys like Garrett and Chubb retire

Whole team looks rank, its not just DW.

Chances to win the game despite looking second best throughout but when we had all the momentum we found a way to blow it.

Hard to feel good about the Berry and KS extensions based on the roster and total lack of depth we've seen. The OL is almost criminal in its lack of depth and fragility. 🤮🤮

the result of good coaching and an exceptional ability to draft. We have neither

Maybe, when we are officially out of the playoff mix, we trade any players that are assets and acquire draft picks and start over. This outfit is doomed.

Our oline was not good at the beginning, KS was calling plays as if was fully functional oline. When it became very obvious it was in bad shape he started calling plays to compensate. If he would have done this early on we would have won.

X2… wth is going on in the afcn? Steelers 3-0 leading the division? How is this even possible?

Oline can't block, DW can't complete a pass unless his first option is wide open, defense makes marginal QBs look like Tom Brady, and I seen a stat the other day that showed that we have around the 6th oldest team in the league, might as well just blow it up and start over.

This outcome was predictable and this is your lot in life until he is no longer the coach.

Stefanski does not work as a favorite. He is the Baker of coaches (minus the immaturity).

This team is poorly coached, poorly prepared, and slow to make adjustments in game.

He’s just not impressive. He’ll probably talk about how hard it is to win in the NFL in his presser. He was a 6.5 pt favorite at home who was spotted a 7 pt lead and got completely out coached and out schemed the entire game.

1-2 on the way to 5-12.

Next year when Kev has no expectations he’ll go 11-6, finish third in the division, get trounced first round of the playoffs, and win coach of the year.

And round and round we go.

The fans know. Stadium had a lot of empty seats and a lot of Giant fans.

They didn’t do much in the preseason. Hard to regress from that.

We didn't deserve to win this one! Yes the injuries, losing Callahan, etc didn't help. but the play calling has done nothing to help compensate and help DW. We were horribly outcoached most notably on offense. Defensively, we were OK the 2nd half. This looks like this is going to be a long season....

I thought Jim Schwartz was supposed to be some kind of
Defensive guru. ?? He had no answer for Jones
And Nabors. How bout that tackling on the Singletary
Run. ?? The Browns defense was so over rated coming
Into the season. It was never as good as last year's ranking

The offense misses Njoku big time

Cause the Steelers have darn good coach and culture

- Inexcusable loss at home to a really bad football team.

- The blueprint is out. Blitz the hell out of the Browns.

- The OL is a catastrophic failure and is in crisis mode.

- The offense has yet to put up 20 points in a game. It's a total mess.

- Letting Callahan walk is proving out to be disastrous.

- DW was not terrible today.

- Tillman continues to be just another useless WR from Berry. The offseason hype was silly.

- JOK flying around tackling air.

- It took Nabers absolutely cooking Emerson the entire first half for Schwartz to finally decide to have Ward shadow Nabers.

- Cooper returned to form. Nice to see.

- Shelby Harris was disruptive

Cheers: Jim Donovan and Phil Dawson

Jeers: The Browns offense and coaching staff.

Go Guardians!

We’re not even 4 games in.

Relax.

I’m relaxed. DW is just awful to watch. Maybe I’ll rest my eyes on Sundays while DW tanks us.

In general I agree with this, but DW wasn’t the reason the Browns lost today.

Kev and his inability to get the team ready was the reason.

Kev “it’s hard to win in the NFL” Stefanski.

I’ve seen enough of Stefanski and his play calling give Vrabel his shot.

It’s the lack of a winning culture that separates us and many other teams, especially the Steelers.

Stefanski seems to don’t have the mentality to win the game at all cost.
Inside our locker room we don’t have enough warriors and lions who are willing to sacrifice whatever it takes.

Berry think he can buy success instead of implementing a culture built on trust and accountability.

There are a lot of talented players and coaches in this organization but without the right mentality nothing will change.

It’s tough pill to swallow but the Browns needs new a leadership. Probably a new HC and definitely get rid of Watson, who simply don’t care enough when things go south.

Yes to all.

Letting Callahan walk was criminal. Flacco can read Defenses, had a hell of a play fake and throws a MUCH, MUCH, more catachable ball (accuracy, ball placement, leading receivers), it's not even close.

Was at the game... it was so fricking hot...

I sat next to some nice giants fans who thought they would get blown out.

This team needs to reset this week and get some OL help ASAP.

It felt like as soon as the Newsome roughing the passer call occurred we lost all fire on defense and it took 3 quarters for it to return

Our OL continues to be a huge issue with no solution in the short term

Watson is so below average, but still not the reason we lost today (he was A reason, but not THE reason)

Outside of Cooper, our skill guys were horrid today

3rd and 1 with the game on the line when you have Foreman and Ford to pick up a single yard and you bring in Winston to QB sneak? Then some stupid ass poorly run RPO on 4th and 1 with a trash Offensive line? Hue Jackson would be proud! Who is calling that trash, Stefanski or Dorsey? Wow.

I can't quite believe 3-0 either. But the Steelers have tons of injuries too. It's very early in the season.

Go Yankees. - And thank you dad for bringing me up as a Yankee fan. How in the heck you people can root for a team that calls themselves “The Guardians” is beyond me.


However, I’ll oblige, the Indians/Gaurdians are a much better run organization than this crap that we all root for on Sundays.

Stefanski is regressing.

He’s a run of the mill coach.

The problem is we’ve had bottom three coaches for so long that people love Stefanski just because he’s average and doesn’t say dumb things in pressers.

You will never win anything with Stefanski as HC.

I have said a few times, but Winston on short yardage goes BACKWARDS first. Not sure that's the most efficient way to do it

Tillman’s drop on fourth down sealed it. I thought he’d turn the corner this year, but it’s early.

The Giants are better than people think. They have a really good front on D that was able to take advantage of an OL that is limping. Wills looked really bad at times in PO, I saw a couple of full-field replays showing our WRs were not getting much separation.

I don’t hang this loss on DW, he had guys in his face all game.

Daboll had an excellent plan against our D: quick, easy throws, mitigate our front, and hold MG all day because refs rarely call it when it’s Myles. We should have had Ward on Nabers BEFORE the second half.

I did my best Eotab imitation, so carry on with the rants.

I think doing this colonoscopy prep will be funner than watching the Browns play today.

Another thought: Nabors is better than any WR we've drafted .. maybe ever lol

I agree, SBD. This week better change some situational things, because we will duplicate bad outcomes next week if we duplicate the prep. I see little to no upside DW until he can avoid sacks, strips, fumbles, and losses by getting rid of the ball. NFL is not a hobby for spare time convenience; buy some tackles that dress and are marginally playable. Ours might not grade out in HS films. Dumb it down to what we can execute. Give half of DW's reps to his replacement.
I wonder's, being questions I can't stop asking meself. If not today, what must occur and how much worse must it get to earn DW a sit-down and a dose of Vitamin P (pine) to treat his issues? We are not only shooting oiurselves in the foot. No, we are burning clips and re-loading. Another, what would you build on next week from this game? Also, why can't we defend the flat or hit receivers coming off the line (or refuse to do so)? We need some coaching triage: First, stop the bleeding. I refuse to believe there are quick fixes but dandy explanations. I'll quit; perhaps you have nagging curiosity to add. Brother, can you spare a tackle?

I respect your opinion, but enough with the excuses. This was a home game played against an 0-2 team —- by a team that is supposed to compete for a title.

They look sloppy, undisciplined, and disorganized. Whether it’s DW’s fault or not, it’s clear that the trade set us back and clearly, clearly, has been a giant mistake.

Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward, Joel Bitonio all deserve better. Trade them for picks and start over. What a complete abomination the trade for dw has been.

Probably so. Simply because the colonoscopy prep will be done at some point in the future. No end in sight for play of this caliber.

After Wills and Wyatt went down our OL was kinda like this: Joel at LT, Pocic at RG, Hudson or Jones at RT, Harris at centre and maybe Zinter at LG?

Wow, some of you all are so Funny its unbelievable!!
IF the offensive line is playing like crap, U really think any QB can over come that?? They couldn't pick any blitz, they were getting good pressure with just 4. Stefanski did not establish a running game and really abandoned it. And if your oline is having problems protecting, why the hell are you lining up 5 wide? But we still had chances to win but then either penalties or fumbles blew our chances. Kevin thinks he can out think everyone but that series in the second half when we used the QB sneak on 3rd down and then some pass play on 4 and inches. But if you really were a true Browns fan, you would also question Berry and ask why didnt we address the Oline in the off season with people who can play right now!!....


BTW... Kevin was so smart, teams from last year and this year are running right at Dallas. What does Kevin do, pass!!....