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We, the people against Trump, must continue to beat the band until AFTER he is defeated. New York Times- listed 91 KEY FOLKS who worked with Trump, who say he isn't fit to return to WH. Here is part of a quote- "Barr, the Times notes, warned that Trump "will always put his own interests and gratifying his own ego ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest" — and former Education Secretary Betsy DeVos recalled that Trump's "behavior had grown increasingly erratic and unnerving." Similarly, Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, is quoted as saying that Trump's "temperament wasn't rational."

Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper described Trump as a "threat to democracy." And former Vice President Mike Pence, who isn't voting for Trump but hasn't endorsed Harris, has said of Trump, "Anyone that puts themselves over the Constitution should never be president."

The editorial quotes many other people who know Trump well, from Tillerson to former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas). And some of the quotes are from members of the Trump family, including psychologist/author Mary Trump (the former president's niece) and the late federal judge/attorney Maryanne Trump Barry (his sister),"

Trump is a recurring menace- when he's defeated AND after the chaos he's put in place to fight his defeat--- he and his products- sneakers, action figures, silver coins, hats, shirts, on and on will be quickly put in the dumpster where they belong. He will then probably spend some time in jail.....IF justice prevails. BEAT TRUMP


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Newsmax and Smartmatic settle 2020 election defamation case on eve of trial

The pro-Trump cable outlet Newsmax and voting technology company Smartmatic settled a major defamation lawsuit Thursday in a last-minute agreement, averting a high-stakes trial over the airing of false 2020 election claims.

The terms of the settlement were not immediately known. The deal comes hours after jury selection got underway in a Wilmington, Delaware, courtroom ahead of opening statements scheduled for Monday. The parties, and a court official, announced the settlement Thursday afternoon.

“Newsmax is pleased to announce it has resolved the litigation brought by Smartmatic through a confidential settlement,” the network said in a statement.

Smartmatic lawyer Erik Connolly said in a statement that the company was “very pleased to have secured the completion” of the Newsmax case.

“Lying to the American people has consequences,” Connolly said. “Smartmatic will not stop until the perpetrators are held accountable.”

The closely watched trial would have been the first of several high-profile lawsuits filed against right-wing media companies in the wake of the 2020 election to reach a jury – and was set to determine whether Newsmax defamed Smartmatic by airing false claims the company’s machines had rigged the results against Donald Trump.

Newsmax denied wrongdoing and said its coverage was protected by the First Amendment.

After previous negotiations fizzled out, settlement talks heated up Thursday morning. While jury selection was underway, members of both sides’ legal teams were notably not in the courtroom as they privately hammered out a deal, a person familiar with the matter told CNN.

A loss at trial could have put Newsmax on the hook to pay tens of millions of dollars to Smartmatic, putting the small cable channel in financial peril.

“This is a case that is a bet-your-company case for Newsmax,” Howard Cooper, an attorney for the network, said at a recent pretrial hearing.

But in the run-up to the trial, Smartmatic’s hand weakened significantly, further raising the possibility of a settlement.

Smartmatic has claimed that the lies promoted by Newsmax, Fox News, and other Trump allies destroyed its reputation and cost the company billions of dollars. However, as the Newsmax trial approached, Smartmatic’s lawyers reduced the company’s damages claim to approximately $370 million, lowering their demands by about $1 billion, according to statements from both parties.

This drop was spurred in part by Delaware Superior Court Judge Eric Davis, who ruled Monday that Smartmatic could only seek compensation for provable losses, eliminating the possibility of additional “punitive damages” that might result in an eye-popping damages award.

Smartmatic also voluntarily abandoned efforts to seek damages for potential losses after 2023, because it would open the door to potentially devastating testimony about its executives being charged this year in an unrelated Philippines bribery scheme. (Smartmatic denies criminality.)

“Settlements are a common outcome in civil lawsuits, particularly just as the trial proceedings are about to begin,” said Eric Robinson, a media law expert who teaches at the University of South Carolina. “This is also true of defamation cases such as this one. It often makes sense to settle rather than pay the expenses of a trial and possible appeals.”

The settlement is the latest in a string of 2020 election defamation cases to reach an out-of-court agreement before trial. Fox News famously settled with Dominion Voting Systems last year for a record $787 million, and the far-right channel One America News settled with Smartmatic earlier this year.

Newsmax still faces a separate defamation lawsuit over similar claims that was filed by Dominion. Newsmax denies all wrongdoing in that case.

But perhaps the biggest lawsuit still looming over a media outlet for its repeated airing of 2020 election lies, is Smartmatic’s case against Fox News and its parent company, Fox Corporation, which is scheduled for trial next year.

“We are now looking forward to our court day against Fox and Fox News for their disinformation campaign,” Connolly, the Smartmatic lawyer, said in his statement Thursday.

Fox News denies wrongdoing, A network spokesperson called Smartmatic’s lawsuit “unsupported by the facts and intended to chill First Amendment freedoms.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/26/media/newsmax-smartmatic-settle-defamation-case

Freedom of speech is a constitutional right. Defamation is not. Yet certain people would like to convince others that it's the same thing. Sadly in many cases that's working.


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Dear God he’s a moron. Anyone that follows him down his mentally challenged rabbit hole is a moron too. Sorry, not sorry. Dude is dumber than the ground he stands on.


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Maybe it is too early to talk about what the repubs and project 2025 want to do with the National Weather Service and NOAA?

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As we have already seen they can just have trump draw the weather maps.


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Dear God he’s a moron. Anyone that follows him down his mentally challenged rabbit hole is a moron too. Sorry, not sorry. Dude is dumber than the ground he stands on.

Canadian here, supposedly not my business but I want America to do well because that means Canada does well.

But Portland, how can anyone with even slightly below-average intelligence vote for this guy, or think he’s a decent human being? I get hard-core Republicans who vote Repub no matter what, but this guy?


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Dear God he’s a moron. Anyone that follows him down his mentally challenged rabbit hole is a moron too. Sorry, not sorry. Dude is dumber than the ground he stands on.

Canadian here, supposedly not my business but I want America to do well because that means Canada does well.

But Portland, how can anyone with even slightly below-average intelligence vote for this guy, or think he’s a decent human being? I get hard-core Republicans who vote Repub no matter what, but this guy?

None of the options are decent human beings. If they were they wouldn't be running for office. That said we had crap and crappier, then crappier was replaced with even crappier. Harris wants to gut the judiciary and make it rubber stamp for whatever the executive wants to do. I'm simply not down with that.

I really could care less though if they are horrible people, horrible people run a lot of the world. I don't like our current CEO but I make good money and I enjoy, mostly, what I do.

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Originally Posted by lampdogg
Originally Posted by PortlandDawg
Dear God he’s a moron. Anyone that follows him down his mentally challenged rabbit hole is a moron too. Sorry, not sorry. Dude is dumber than the ground he stands on.

Canadian here, supposedly not my business but I want America to do well because that means Canada does well.

But Portland, how can anyone with even slightly below-average intelligence vote for this guy, or think he’s a decent human being? I get hard-core Republicans who vote Repub no matter what, but this guy?


The USA has always had a peaceful transfer of power, until, well you know who. Any true American patriot knows in their heart who the tyrant is here. Hint…not Kamala.


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Trying to paint some false equivalency between these two people is just crazy talk. I agree that both are bad candidates but it would be hard to try and blame Kamala for trying to trying to get the judiciary to rubber stamp anything she wants to do since trump has already done that.


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Trying to paint some false equivalency between these two people is just crazy talk. I agree that both are bad candidates but it would be hard to try and blame Kamala for trying to trying to get the judiciary to rubber stamp anything she wants to do since trump has already done that.

And you would still be ignoring the plan for SCOTUS and the rest of the judiciary. Nice to see you only pay attention to what you are told to pay attention to.

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I pay attention to it all. You're accusing Kamala of trying to do something in the future that is exactly what trump has already done. Look at Eileen Cannon's resume and try to tell me with a straight face trump hasn't thrown ringers into the judiciary. Yet when trump does it you never had a word to say about it. Now? You are accusing her of doing something she hasn't done. But I understand why you would think she would do that. Because you already watched trump do it.


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I pay attention to it all. You're accusing Kamala of trying to do something in the future that is exactly what trump has already done. Look at Eileen Cannon's resume and try to tell me with a straight face trump hasn't thrown ringers into the judiciary. Yet when trump does it you never had a word to say about it. Now? You are accusing her of doing something she hasn't done. But I understand why you would think she would do that. Because you already watched trump do it.

You aren't paying attention. Trump filled the vacancies in the judiciary. Harris wants to expand then fill, with judges that rubber stamp the agenda. Trump didn't create new vacancies. But thanks for the "whaddabout".

And the justices Trump nominated seemed to not just rubber stamp. They obliterated his bump stock ban, and took the ATF to task while doing it. They ruled on immunity but didn't let him off the hook. Once they placed a boundary on that they remanded to the inferior court to determine if the behaviour falls under immune actions. Those aren't rubber stamps.

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He made it clear during his campaign he would only nominate judges that would overturn Roe. He followed through on that. Ans just how "limited" his immunity is remains to be seen seen.

That was the rubber stamp. At least this time you were honest enough to say "wants to". We both know she can't arbitrarily do that.


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He made it clear during his campaign he would only nominate judges that would overturn Roe. He followed through on that. Ans just how "limited" his immunity is remains to be seen seen.

That was the rubber stamp. At least this time you were honest enough to say "wants to". We both know she can't arbitrarily do that.

Roe was incorrectly decided. At least according to RGB. It needed undoing. Bad precedent is bad precedent.

But you diversion doesn't mean Harris doesn't want to destroy the third branch.

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Yet no SOCTUS court overturned Roe for over 50 years. It was only decided wrongly by people who think it was wrongly decided. Every one of those three nominees said that precedent was important to them. Until it wasn't.


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Yet no SOCTUS court overturned Roe for over 50 years. It was only decided wrongly by people who think it was wrongly decided. Every one of those three nominees said that precedent was important to them. Until it wasn't.


But they didn't promise to overturn it then. More of your lies. Shameful.

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Donald Trump stated plainly he would only nominate judges that he knew would overturn Roe. He did exactly that and all 3 of them voted to overturn it. Those are the facts no matter how hard you try to spin it differently.

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Yet no SOCTUS court overturned Roe for over 50 years. It was only decided wrongly by people who think it was wrongly decided. Every one of those three nominees said that precedent was important to them. Until it wasn't.


But they didn't promise to overturn it then. More of your lies. Shameful.

Heritage wanted to overturn Roe.
Heritage gave trump a list of judges they wanted for SCOTUS.
trump picked from that list.
Roe was overturned.

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Facts are not his friend.


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So you have some sort of proof they agreed to overturn Roe?

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a couple paragraphs from Heritage Foundation press release; the whole piece is in the link below


Heritage experts have also played a huge role in getting the Supreme Court to the conservative constitutional majority it is today. In 2016 and in 2020, when vacancies opened up on the Supreme Court, our experts provided President Donald Trump with lists of judges who would be outstanding nominees. After the sudden death of Justice Antonin Scalia in 2016, a Heritage expert helped shape the nominee list. And then again in 2020, Heritage got behind Amy Coney Barrett with a very public campaign of media interviews, newspaper op-eds, and TV and social media ads to promote her nomination and ultimate appointment to the bench.

In addition to Heritage’s long-term efforts to bring about the demise of Roe v. Wade, it has worked in other ways to protect life, including most recently working with the Trump administration in 2019 to craft restrictions on federal funding for fetal tissue research from abortions and also restrictions to strip tens of millions of taxpayer dollars from Planned Parenthood through the Title X program.

Heritage is grateful to be a part of this enormous step forward in the protection of innocent human life. And we know that there is still much more to be done.

https://www.heritage.org/life/impac...he-defeat-roe-v-wade-and-what-comes-next

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Read Lima's posts. The Heritage Foundation made a list of potential justices that was known would overturn Roe. Trump promised he would only pick justices that would overturn Roe. He then made every selection from the list the Heritage Foundation provided.

There is nothing complicated or that can reasonably be defended to counter this. Trump said he would do it and that's exactly what he did.


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a couple paragraphs from Heritage Foundation press release; the whole piece is in the link below


Heritage experts have also played a huge role in getting the Supreme Court to the conservative constitutional majority it is today. In 2016 and in 2020, when vacancies opened up on the Supreme Court, our experts provided President Donald Trump with lists of judges who would be outstanding nominees. After the sudden death of Justice Antonin Scalia in 2016, a Heritage expert helped shape the nominee list. And then again in 2020, Heritage got behind Amy Coney Barrett with a very public campaign of media interviews, newspaper op-eds, and TV and social media ads to promote her nomination and ultimate appointment to the bench.

In addition to Heritage’s long-term efforts to bring about the demise of Roe v. Wade, it has worked in other ways to protect life, including most recently working with the Trump administration in 2019 to craft restrictions on federal funding for fetal tissue research from abortions and also restrictions to strip tens of millions of taxpayer dollars from Planned Parenthood through the Title X program.

Heritage is grateful to be a part of this enormous step forward in the protection of innocent human life. And we know that there is still much more to be done.

https://www.heritage.org/life/impac...he-defeat-roe-v-wade-and-what-comes-next

They had influence in shaping the list. How many promised to strike Roe before hearing any cases based on it? There's conjecture, and obvious crowing on their part, but the nominated Justices never said specifically that was their intention. Nor does this say that was the priority criteria. It may have been, but really this is still conjecture.

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I guess if you have a SC that does your bidding - no wonder you like it.

But the fact is we have Thomas and his wife clearly exerting politics into the supreme court. Thomas with all his undeclared freebies from Harlan Crow - Ginni full on spreading lies about a stolen election like a total buffon - and then Thomas using his opinion in one case to help thwart charges against Trump in a different, unconnected case.

And yes - the new justices were all grilled over Roe, all questioned extensively over Roe vs Wade and all essentially duplicitous answers.


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Yeah, they pretend things such as this never happened......

Justice Alito, in secretly recorded audio, apparently agrees nation needs to return to place of 'godliness'

A liberal filmmaker, posing as a conservative, recorded him at a private event.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jus...arently-agrees-nation/story?id=111014360

According to some trumpians managing to pick 3 SCOTUS nominees in a row that just happened to vote against Roe was an amazing stroke of luck.


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Dozens of suspected White supremacist gang members arrested in Los Angeles area in domestic terrorism investigation

A total of 68 suspected gang members with ties to White supremacy were charged in the Los Angeles area Wednesday in a large-scale takedown, federal prosecutors said.

The Peckerwoods Gang members and associates were charged in a sweeping federal indictment, which included allegations of racketeering, firearms trafficking, drug trafficking and financial fraud, according to officials.

The federal charges announced Wednesday did not include allegations of an impending planned attack, but Martin Estrada, the US Attorney for the Central District of California, said: “This group has as its mission to plan attacks against racial, ethnic, religious minorities. … We are not going to wait for the next tragedy to take action.”

More than 40 of the suspected members and associates of the Peckerwoods Gang were arrested Wednesday or were already in custody in what was “one of largest takedowns in the history of the Department of Justice against a neo-Nazi, White supremacist, violent extremist organization,” Estrada said.

The arrests involved multiple federal and local law enforcement tactical officers, including the Joint Terrorism Task Force and resources brought in from the FBI’s Hostage Rescue Team, a source previously told CNN.

Fueled by ‘hate’ and ‘animus’

The Peckerwoods Gang is based in Los Angeles’ San Fernando Valley and is “essentially a local chapter of the Aryan Brotherhood,” said Akil Davis, the FBI’s assistant director in charge of Los Angeles’ field office. They engage in a wide variety of criminal activity, including drug trafficking, fraud, violence and identity theft, the US attorney said.

In aligning themselves with the Aryan Brotherhood, local gang members are able to commit a variety of crimes on the outside and give money to their incarcerated counterparts, Estrada said. The gang also benefits from the Brotherhood’s alliance with the Mexican Mafia, giving them “greater freedom to commit crimes on the outside,” Estrada added.

“What truly distinguishes them, what defines them is their hate and their animus toward racial, ethnic and religious minorities,” Estrada said.

A previously arrested member made online threats against Jews and hateful messages were found at his home, Estrada detailed.

The gang embraces the name Peckerwoods, which Estrada described as a previously used derogatory name for Caucasians in the prison system.

The group displays their affiliation with neo-Nazi ideology through tattoos, clothing and on social media, and collect Nazi paraphernalia, including swastikas and Confederate flags, Estrada said.

During the investigation, law enforcement seized large quantities of illegal firearms, “bomb-making components” and dozens of pounds of fentanyl, methamphetamine and heroin, officials said.

If convicted as charged, the defendants face a maximum sentence of life in federal prison, according to the US Attorney’s Office for the Central District of California.

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Election denying ex-county clerk sentenced to 9 years for tampering with election equipment

Prosecutors have said former Mesa County, Colorado Clerk Tina Peters was "a fox guarding the henhouse."

A former Colorado county clerk who promoted 2020 election conspiracy theories was sentenced Thursday to 9 years behind bars for charges including official misconduct in connection with a security breach of Mesa County’s voting system.

“Your lies are well-documented and these convictions are serious,” Judge Matthew Barrett told Tina Peters before he handed down his sentence for the 2021 security breach, calling her a “charlatan” who used her time in office “to peddle snake oil.”

Peters was convicted of four felony and three misdemeanor charges in August for using another person's security badge to allow someone associated with MyPillow founder Mike Lindell, a prominent election denier and ally of former President Donald Trump, access to county election equipment.

The county's machines had to be replaced afterwards when data, including passwords for the machines, were posted online.

Peters was "a fox guarding the henhouse," prosecutor Jessica Drake said in her closing argument in August. "It was her job to protect the election equipment, and she turned on it and used her power for her own advantage."

Peters maintains she did nothing wrong.

"It is with a heavy heart that I hear the vile accusations and anger levied against me for what I did to protect the people of Mesa County," she told the judge before he handed down his sentence. She said she was simply trying to preserve information to make sure the election was secure, and asked the judge to sentence her to probation.

Matt Crane, executive director of the Colorado County Clerks Association, told the judge there were legal avenues she could have used to preserve the information she wanted without engaging in a "treacherous" scheme. He said her actions cost the county over $1 million.

District Attorney Daniel Rubinstein asked the judge to sentence Peters to maximum sentence, citing her lack of remorse. He also noted that despite her claims of widespread fraud, she never identified a single bogus vote.

County officials said her continued fraudulent election claims also led to a slew of death threats against election workers while she traveled around the country promoting her claims and ignored her actual duties. Peters denied the claims and said she called in to the office when she was not in the state.

Peters ran for secretary of state in 2022 after she was indicted, and was defeated in the Republican primary. She alleged fraud in that election as well, and demanded a recount after losing by 85,000 votes. The recount resulted in her getting an additional 13 votes — as did the overall primary winner, Pam Anderson.

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Texas bakery threatened for making cookies featuring Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz

Hive Bakery fell victim to online vitriol and even death threats, the Dallas Morning News reported.

A Texas bakery is seeing major backlash after posting pictures of its politically themed sugar cookies. According to the Dallas Morning News, Hive Bakery owner Haley Popp has even received death threats online.

Before it was targeted this week, Hive Bakery was an award-winning pastry shop and two-time Food Network champion in Flower Mound. Before Tuesday’s vice-presidential debate, Popp took to Instagram to show off her latest creation: sugar cookies decorated with the likeness of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz.

Popp told the Dallas Morning News her Walz cookies sold out. That's also when the unkind comments rolled in. Most notably, Popp saw members of Flower Mound Cares, a private neighborhood Facebook group, targeting her and the business. Users called for the business and “all the gay people in it” to burn, prompting Popp to contact the authorities.

“Whenever we run liberal cookies, we get tons of hateful messages and phone calls,” Popp wrote on Instagram Wednesday. Prior to the Walz cookies, Hive Bakery also made a batch of cookies depicting Vice President Kamala Harris. Those also sparked backlash.

Friday morning, Popp shared screenshots of the negative comments and her experience. “This is a typical day for me as a progressive, female business owner in Flower Mound. On occasion it’s worse,” she wrote. She also said she reported the harassment to the Flower Mound Police Department; however, the criticism continued.

Popp told the Dallas Morning News she plans to continue selling politically themed baked goods, undeterred.

Restaurants and bars in Texas have taken advantage of the presidential election to release politically themed food and other products. Houston's Three Brothers Bakery regularly sells Democratic and Republican presidential candidate cookies for the election season. Similarly, popular Downtown brewery Flying Saucer Draught Emporium sells presidential candidate pint glasses. Both Three Brothers and Flying Saucer have said that the products are popular among customers.

https://www.chron.com/food/article/hive-bakery-cookies-death-threats-19816407.php

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Can a trump supporter tell me what “dark MAGA” is, please. You’re corporate slave master Elon Musk mentioned it at the trump rally, and I’m wondering what he means by that.


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I’ve heard that term used before by Cawthorne out of North Carolina. Not exactly the person you want to emulate, but I guess it’s a thing though.


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This is an article from Newsweek in April that describes and explains dark MAGA......

What Is Dark MAGA? Trump Supporters Attempt Rebrand for 2024

A small fringe of Donald Trump's supporters is calling for the former president to get back on the highest stage of U.S. politics with a vengeance with the motto: #DarkMAGA.

More of a meme than a political slogan, Dark MAGA is a post-alt-right aesthetic that promotes an authoritarian version of Trump in dystopian, Terminator-like images. In some, the Trump Tower is painted entirely in black and the former president is seen piercing through the screen with blue laser eyes.

The hashtag first appeared on Twitter on January 21, and it had become increasingly popular by March. It can now be found in thousands of memes on Telegram and TikTok as well.

The aesthetics of the movement are easily recognizable: images edited in red and black or red and blue, featuring people with blue laser eyes often holding weapons or standing in front of neo-Nazi symbols.

Dark MAGA supporters are calling for a ruthless, unforgiving version of Trump to take revenge on his political enemies at the 2024 election - though the movement hasn't been recognized or endorsed by Trump in any form. The former president hasn't yet even formally confirmed whether he'll run for president in 2024.

In the description of the #DarkMAGA hashtag creator, as described by the Global Network on Extremism & Technology (GNET), Dark MAGA represents "Napoleon, being exiled, and then raising a f****** army to attack Europe to attack the elites."

"#DarkMAGA is the aesthetic demand that Trump embrace a harder and more focused approach to the role only he can fill. He was too kindhearted, too forgiving. Dark MAGA demands he learn from his mistakes," writes another Twitter user.

"It's the realization that there is no political solution beyond vengeance," tweets another user.

"If you want to win, if you don't want to repeat the past, you have to get mean; you almost have to embrace the villain role that they're bringing you with," describes another supporter quoted by GNET.

Behind the movement there's no single identifiable group, or a clear ideology, GNET said. Many of the messages posted by Dark MAGA supporters incite violence and contain misogynistic and/or racist comments.

The movement is full of early internet trolling techniques in the tradition of the post-Charlottesville alt-right, which has, since the deadly Unite the Right rally in Virginia in 2017, been trying to reunify that loose coalition of white supremacists and white nationalists under the same group, said Tim Squirrell, head of communications & editorial at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue.

"What we are seeing is numerous attempts to unify those factions again, to some degree," he explains.

"Dark MAGA is, to some extent, the latest attempt to try to do that, to pull those things together and to try to unify the Trumpists and the kind of people who are more on the fringes behind this hardened image of Trump coming back as a vengeful kind of leader, having been deposed, and removing all the kindness and mercy from his heart, in this sort of anime arc," says Squirrell.

The Dark MAGA idea of "this glorious leader who has been punished and sent away, deposed and humiliated, and he needs to come back and harden his heart," is a narrative that wouldn't be out of place in games like Warhammer 40k or a Japanese anime, Squirrell says.

But not being able to distinguish what's ironic from what's serious in Dark MAGA is exactly within the strategy of how the movement hopes to gather mainstream attention.

"The whole point of something like Dark MAGA is that it's over the top. It's melodramatic, it's a bit ridiculous. It's Trump highlighted in red with blue laser eyes, and the bit that they are doing is to create that ridiculous aesthetic as a way of attracting attention."

The Long Shadow of January 6

Dark MAGA, according to Alice E. Marwick, associate professor of communication at the University of North Carolina and principal researcher at the Center for Information, Technology and Public Life, is an evolution of the feeling of disappointment and disenfranchisement many Trump supporters have felt after the 2020 election.

"There's a certain group of people who were very disappointed with the 2020 election and there is a sense that what precipitated the attacks on the Capitol on January 6 is the idea that the election had been stolen, a message that was primed by mainstream Republicans for months leading up to the election," Marwick said.

"I spend a lot of time in far-right groups online and there's an increased sense of persecution there. There's an increased sense of urgency," she adds.

"There is an increased sense of anger about things like the Black Lives Matter protests of 2020, COVID lockdowns and COVID restrictions. I think in many communities there's been the cementing of ideas that the Biden regime or the left in general are engaging in these widespread conspiracies to sort of suppress the truth or suppress the Trump regime, suppress the opinions of conservatives and suppress conservative action."

According to Marwick, the result of this is a "heavy victim mentality" among some Trump supporters.

"The general messaging that the Democrats are evil, that children are under threat, that people may need to take extreme acts, even political violence to protect their children and their values, I think is consistent across the (far-right) spectrum," says Marwick.

Marwick believe there's an overlap between Dark MAGA and QAnon, with both groups believing that "an evil Democratic cabal of elites" are kidnapping, sex trafficking, and murdering children.

"Now, what this does is it allows there to be this rhetoric of a reckoning where these evil people will get their comeuppance," explains Marwick.

If you're a "mainstream Republican," Marwick says, your plan of action to counteract this "danger" will be through anti-trans and anti-LGTB bills and, when it comes to 2024, through electing the candidate who most reflects your values.

"But if you're somebody who's more in this extremist space, as we see with the Dark MAGA hashtag, the idea is that there's a huge sense of urgency to protect children because they're literally being like kidnapped and killed by this evil group of elites. And that has to be done right now."

Squirrell believes Dark MAGA is trying to unite these groups around the same goals, "as a way of unifying mainstream conservatives with hardline white nationalists and white supremacists."

Beyond Social Media Trends: The Real Impact

The threat of political violence posed by far-right movements like Dark MAGA is real, says Marwick, but it's right now very limited as the group doesn't have mainstream support.

"I think the Biden administration has been more attentive than the Trump administration to recognizing the potential violence from far-right groups," she says.

But that doesn't mean that the alt-right has disappeared. "The far right, the neo-Nazis, the white supremacists, the militias, the conspiracy theorists, the anti-vaxxers, they all still exist," Squirrell said.

Marwick believes that the ideas feeding the Dark MAGA movement are already creating harm in American society, after seeping into the mainstream political discourse.

In that same mind frame of protecting children promoted by Dark MAGA supporters, recent legislation (like the 'Don't Say Gay' bill in Florida) has been used to curtail LGTB and trans rights and to restrict women's rights, Marwick said.

"While obviously the threat of political violence is always something at the forefront of people's minds, that's often just the most sensational expression of a lot of these hateful ideas," Marwick added.

"And I think what can often be the most damaging is when these hate ideas are codified into legislation because those have the greatest impact on the greatest number of people.

"And when we're talking about things like LGBT families, LGBT youth, especially trans youth, we're talking about bills that actually will harm those young people. There's demonstrable harm on trans people if they're not able to get gender affirming health care, for example."

Dark MAGA was born from the alt-right's feeling of having lost power, and seeking to regain that power, at any cost.

Dark MAGA posts are far from receiving the same kind of attention that brought similar sorts of political memes to become so relevant in the 2016 election. But in the next two years, things might change.

https://www.newsweek.com/dark-maga-donald-trump-supporters-attempt-rebrand-2024-1697855

It went from this in April, when it was very limited, to being promoted on the stage at a trump rally via Elon Musk.


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Can a trump supporter tell me what “dark MAGA” is, please. You’re corporate slave master Elon Musk mentioned it at the trump rally, and I’m wondering what he means by that.


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Aye conservatives:

If you’re mad that Trump keeps being called Hitler, perhaps you should tell him to not say crap like this:

Former President Donald Trump used increasingly harsh rhetoric to attack immigrants, suggesting on Monday during an interview that immigrants commit horrendous crimes because “it’s in their genes.”

"How about allowing people to come to an open border, 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them murdered far more than one person, and they're now happily living in the United States. You know now a murder, I believe this, it's in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now,” he told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-immigrants-got-lot-bad-162322273.html


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To unite the KKK and the American Nazi movement the right conditions needed to exist: the dissemination of the Christian Identity Movement(CIM)from the edge of mainstream right-wing Christianity to more accessible positions, the embrace of anti-communism by the KKK as the most significant threat to the Western world,and the loss of the segregation and Civil Rights fight by Klansmen in the southern United States. Once these groups began open dialogues and joint rallies throughout the 1980s, a new era of terrorism and violence started to grip the United States in the 1990s. This thesis explores both the histories that led to the unification of the KKK and ANM during the Greensboro Massacre, as well as religious trends that carried on throughout the decades to follow.


https://ninercommons.charlotte.edu/islandora/object/etd:2359

Trump was indoctrinated by his father. A KKK member and obviously part of the American Nazi movement. Trump is obviously part of the NAZI movement in the USA because his dad was.


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And that 13k number includes numbers over the past four decades. That total number includes murders dating back to when Reagan was president..............

More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide are living outside immigration detention in the U.S., ICE says

Two law enforcement officials said many of those migrants crossed into the U.S. under previous administrations, and that the total includes people serving U.S. prison sentences.

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigati...ide-living-freely-us-ice-data-rcna173125


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“The transgender thing is incredible. Think of it. Your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation. The school decides what’s going to happen with your child,” - Donald Trump

Dear MAGA,

If you dropped off your child as a boy at school and picked your child up as a girl, please return her. You have picked up the wrong child and her family is looking for her.

This has been a public service announcement.


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So remember when GOPers used to talk about the deep state cabal? The secret group really running things… Turns out it was more projection because their is actually a religious cabal behind MAGA and it has infiltrated our government on all levels! It’s called “Opus Dei” and has been around since the nazi movement was getting started. So, now we know it’s not just Evangelicals, but Catholics too. This is an American version of a middle eastern terror group network., only this group promotes totalitarianism and is linked to various dictators; Franco (Spain), Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), and Salazar (Portugal). Now they’re trying to bring it here.


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Another down.....several more to go.


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