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OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Oklahoma’s top education official is seeking to purchase 55,000 Bibles for public schools and specifying that each copy contain the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution, which are not commonly found in Bibles but are included in one endorsed by former President Donald Trump.

The request is part of Republican State Superintendent Ryan Walters’ ongoing efforts to require Bibles in every classroom, which has been met with resistance by some of Oklahoma’s largest school districts.

Walters is seeking to spend $3 million in state funds for Bibles that fit a certain criteria, including that the pages are supplemented with U.S. historical materials. The Bibles must also be “bound in leather or leather-like material for durability,” according to state bidding documents posted this week.

The nonprofit news outlet Oklahoma Watch first reported Thursday that the requirements match the “God Bless the USA Bible” that Trump urged his supporters to begin buying earlier this year at a website that sells the book for $59.99.

Asked Friday if the state’s bid was tailored for the Bible backed by Trump, a spokesman for Walters said the proposal was open to any vendor.

“There are hundreds of Bible publishers and we expect a robust competition for this proposal,” said Dan Isett, a spokesman for the Oklahoma State Department of Education.

Former Oklahoma Attorney General Drew Edmondson, a Democrat, said the bid “does not pass the smell test” and said a court could void it if the process was found to limit competition.

“All fingers point to the Trump Bible that does contain all these requirements,” Edmondson said.

Walters in June ordered public schools to incorporate the Bible into lessons for grades 5 through 12. The bidding documents also specify that the Bibles include both the Old Testament and New Testament, the Pledge of Allegiance and the Bill of Rights.

“We can see there are very few Bibles on the market that would meet these criteria, and all of them have been endorsed by former President Donald Trump,” said Colleen McCarty, executive director of Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law and Justice.

The name of the Bible backed by Trump is inspired by country singer Lee Greenwood’s patriotic ballad. Trump takes the stage to the song at each of his rallies and has appeared with Greenwood at events.

The Bible’s website states the product “is not political and has nothing to do with any political campaign.” It says the site “uses Donald J. Trump’s name, likeness and image under paid license from CIC Ventures LLC.”

Trump reported earning $300,000 off sales of the Bible, according to financial disclosures released in August. His campaign did not immediately return an email seeking comment Friday evening.

Walters, himself a former public school teacher who was elected to his post in 2022, ran on a platform of fighting “woke ideology,” banning books from school libraries and getting rid of “radical leftists” who he claims are indoctrinating children in classrooms.

https://apnews.com/article/oklahoma-bible-schools-trump-endorsed-f8001269aadca5b41712c6ec80e34f69

Well now, y’all, seems like Ryan Walters is tryin’ to bless them Oklahoma classrooms with 55,000 of them fancy leather-bound Bibles, complete with the Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution, and a side of good ol’ Lee Greenwood patriotism. I tell ya, if Grand Pappy was around, he’d be spinnin’ his yarns about this, sittin’ on the ol’ front porch, puffin’ on his corncob pipe. He’d probably say, “Ain’t no point mixin’ your sermon with your history book, unless ya wanna end up tryin’ to pray away the War of 1812.”

And it sure as sugar sounds like this here Bible might as well be Dolly Parton-themed, what with all the glitz. Ya got Donald Trump’s endorsement, Lee Greenwood’s song title, and enough historical documents stuffed in it to make a possum blush. And what’s that about spendin’ three million dollars? Well, let me tell y’all, Grand Pappy could’ve fixed the school roof, patched the gym floor, and still had enough left over for a whole truckload of RC Cola. But no, here we are, buyin’ Bibles that’s tougher than the Appalachian winter, leather-bound to withstand a tussle with a hungry black bear.

They say it ain’t political, but when ya slap the Trump name on somethin’ and package it like a revival meets the Fourth of July, well, you might as well be whistlin’ Dixie and callin’ it background music. And lemme tell ya, Grand Pappy knew the value of a good education—he didn’t have nothin’ but a tattered almanac and a set of tools, but he knew when folks were tryin’ to pull the wool over his eyes. He’d squint, tap that corncob pipe, and say, “This here don’t pass the ol’ smell test. Smells like someone tryin’ to sell ya a rainstorm in a coal mine.”

Now, maybe these Bibles’ll stand the test of time, sittin’ proud next to the history books in the classrooms of Oklahoma, durable enough to survive generations of rowdy kids. But I reckon, instead of spendin’ all that money to turn every lesson into a mix of Exodus and the Bill of Rights, maybe we could just get those kids some good teachers, decent books, and maybe an apple or two for the ones who need a little help stayin’ awake after lunch. Grand Pappy always said, “Ain’t nothin’ wrong with a good story—just make sure it’s the right one for the right time.”

Religion public schools? What could possibly go wrong. Faux Christian teaching by radical religious leaders. While all other religions are downplayed and forgotten in schools. What a nightmare. Pffft religion is a human failure.

It appears they only promote religious freedom for one religion. I don't think that's what the constitution meant from reading it.

Really? The plain text is plain enough?

Can you tell me what books of faith that other religions are founded on are being mandated into public schools other than the Christian Bible? Religion has not changed how many rounds it can rapid fire in well over 200 years. Your false narrative doesn't apply here.

If our fore fathers really had it their way the Masons would be the way. But they realized freedom of religion is a human right and put it into the constitution. These trumpian fanatics can’t read or comprehend our constitution. They just bastardize it to their liking.

So plain text isn't plain text. But the plain text supports what you think the plain text supports.

Once again, what has changed in the Bible since the signing of the constitution? I understand you think that something having a much larger capacity to kill mass amounts of human beings makes no difference. That nothing should ever change even when everything around that topic changes. That's why we're where we are now.

Nah, it is simply a state representative buying into the grift and funding Trump, who is the supplier of the conforming bibles.

55,000 bibles will probably require a second printing.

Trump is laughing all the way to the bank.

Sophistry doesn't change the plain text.

Wait until they get it and see the made in china stamp. Or when they realized Genesis is altered to include Trump at the beginning and end of everything. And revelations will retell the story of the beast as Trump’s rise to power…

If you want to start thread on guns have at it. I'm not going to help you hijack this thread by turning it into one.

I didn't start with guns in this, merely stating you seem to only read the plain text when it suits you, in response to your comment about plain text. But please, gas light me by saying I was the one that "bright guns into this:. It is a typical you move.

Mmmm hmmmm......

Really? The plain text is plain enough?

So plain text isn't plain text. But the plain text supports what you think the plain text supports.


Sophistry doesn't change the plain text.

..... Seems you've made an artform of posting without saying anything of substance setting people up to try to interpret what your meaning was or wasn't. I guess it's a step up from spamming the board with libtard and promoting Trumpites lies.

This is 100% the correct answer.

Do you need a hug? All grumpy face.

Do you even know what you are arguing about?

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Always up for hugs. They are important.

But you've kinda done it again. Did you simply want to prove my point? Thank you.

Man, I’m glad I’m not rising kids right now with all the weird crap the Jesus freaks want to do. And even if they hand out Trump Bibles in school, GOPers will be NO smarter for it… Somebody should tell them that it’s education they are lacking. Read books, maybe you’ll get the world, cave monkeys.

Next thing we know these Goper’s will be requiring doctrinal Christian classes with tests and quizzes. Pfft Goopturds.

So they claim they're against indoctrinating our children. Now this. I call BS.

100% INDOCTRINATION. And they think WE can’t see it.

Oh you had a point? It completely looked like you just wanted to cry about something.

Go one then, please do go on with "your point".

It depends on who is looking at it.

Nothing really to say but you will say it anyways.

I'm sorry you can't deal with the fact that not everyone is going to see it your way. People witnessed you trying to divert this thread in another direction but for some strange reason you think you're so much smarter than everyone else that nobody would catch you at it. But they did. And now you resort to playing dodge ball to deny it.

Just because you don't want to hear what I and others have to say doesn't mean it isn't worth saying. Only in your world.

I really couldn't care less if you agree with me. Your opinion is pretty much worthless, knowing it comes from a place of fantasy that exists between your ears.

Once again in the fantasy world of Frank Z. For someone who thinks my opinion is worthless you sure do spend a lot of time responding to me. Actions speak louder than words.

Wilde might have something to say here.

The point was very clear. If you can't see it, that's on you whether you're trolling or whether you are just being obtuse

What would he say?

If you wanna follow the constitution, would you not have to have the Koran in Schools? Maybe the Torah

We are guaranteed freedom of religion,, NOT just one persons, Right?

Should the Bibles we provide also be written in Many lanquages.

Just saying,

I haven't advocated having any particular religious text in schools. I do think a study of religion is important as a historical idea, but the ideology doesn't belong. Schools should teach students how to think, not what to think.

Yet that’s exactly what Goper’s want to do is indoctrinate all children in public schools with the Christian bible. Teaching them what to think. Not how to think.

…Guess where donny’s Bibles are printed…

You’ll never guess…

https://apnews.com/article/trump-god-bless-usa-bible-china-32a80611605d4052d8238064bbcace4c

Make China Great Again.

He’s such a grifter. His followers are so incredibly gullible and myopic.
But I guess falling for his grift is better than voting for sToLeN VaLoR….
Geez.

SHAME, GOPtardz, SHAME!

They don’t care where they’re printed. And I’m betting they’re not flying off the shelf anyways.