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I want to pick my battles when it comes to Trump, because I think trying to find every little thing wrong devalues from the big picture where there are glaring issues. However, I do think Clem made a good point. If you watch him now vs 2016, he has notably declined. I don't think I really noticed it all that much before, since Biden was the lightning rod of mental decline, so to speak. However, now that Biden has stepped aside, Trump's mental decline is definitely much more on display.


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Actually if people didn't pick their battles and pointed out everything he says and does that's unhinged we would be on part 12 of this thread.


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He said: They are eating the cats.... they are eating the dogs..... they are eating peoples pets.


He lied.. Shouldn't that be enough?


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“He’s always been deluded, incoherent, mean-spirited, dishonest and impulsive. That’s just who Trump is,” she said. “But as he ages and struggles to find his footing in a transformed race, Trump’s getting even, shall I say, Trumpier.”

If you believe a Trump supporter came up with that statement on their own in the spur of the moment, I've got a bridge you can buy.

I do believe it.. Not because this person said it, but because I have dear friends that have told me pretty much the same thing.


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His latest money grab---- Buy your one ounce silver medallion for the low, low, low price of $100....Trump is calling for all his Patriots to pony up their hard earned money for more of his junk....bibles, shoes, action figures, coins....on and on....there is a sucker born every day.....WOW is he Presidential.

What a laughing stock....and he could be a felon President.....ONLY in America.

A politician asking for money and selling kitsch for it? You cannot be serious.

Still can find any Obama basketball shoes, at least he knows how to put them on.

No, The grifting for merchandise is uniquely Trumpian.


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$30 dollars worth of silver for only $100!

No wonder the Franklin Mint is going out of business.


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Like you said: If you don't want to get gay married, don't.

If you don't want to buy that crap, don't.

Life lesson for you: Trump has never gotten 1 PENNY from me.

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I certainly didn't mean to indicate he did get a penny from you. Actually I don't see where I responded to you in that regard in this thread at all. Why would a comment from you out of the blue about something I never said to you be a life lesson to me?


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And now available for purchase......



Capitalizing from an assassination attempt? Only in trumplandia! And just think, he's marketing these watches to the same people he claims can't even afford to buy eggs.

Grifters gonna grift.


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Bing, bing bong questions Harris mental fitness!? lmao

Trump repeats insults about Harris’ mental state as some GOP allies urge him to stick to issues

Donald Trump on Sunday repeated his personal insults about Vice President Kamala Harris’ mental state as some GOP allies urged him to stay on message and avoid such attacks after he made similar remarks at a rally the night before.

“Joe Biden became mentally impaired. It’s sad, but lying Kamala Harris, honestly, I believe she was born that way,” the former president said at Sunday’s rally in Erie, Pennsylvania, reprising attacks from the night before in Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin, where he said, “Kamala is mentally impaired.”

Blaming Harris for illegal immigration taking place under the Biden administration, Trump on Saturday went on to say, “If you think about it, only a mentally disabled person could’ve allowed this to happen to our country.”

On Sunday morning, some Republicans said the former president should to stick to the issues — a plea they have made repeatedly during his third presidential run.

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, a top Trump ally, told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union” that he did not think Harris was mentally impaired but that “she’s crazy liberal.”

“And here’s what I would tell President Trump: When people look at the state of play, they trust you on the economy, the border, inflation and foreign policy by wide margins. Focus on those,” the South Carolina Republican said.

“I’m not saying she’s crazy. I’m saying your party, your policies, are batsh*t crazy,” Graham added of Harris after attacking her record on the border.

House Majority Whip Tom Emmer, who has been playing Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz to help prepare Ohio Sen. JD Vance for Tuesday’s vice presidential debate, told ABC’s “This Week” that “I think we should stick on the issues” when asked about Trump calling Harris “mentally disabled.”

Asked by ABC’s Martha Raddatz whether he thought the vice president was “mentally disabled,” Emmer said, “I think Kamala Harris is the wrong choice for America.”

Republican former Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, an outspoken Trump critic who has rejected the former president’s endorsement in his Senate race, pushed back on Trump’s attacks on Harris. He told CBS’ “Face the Nation” on Sunday that Trump’s comments are “insulting not only to the vice president but to people who actually do have mental disabilities.”

“I’ve said for years that Trump’s divisive rhetoric is something we can do without,” said Hogan, who’s running in the deep-blue state of Maryland.

But former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who is supporting Trump despite their shaky relationship, would not condemn the former president’s insults against Harris in an interview with CNN’s Manu Raju on “Inside Politics.”

“Do you think anybody would be mentally stable that would allow 13,000 murders into your own country,” the California Republican said, citing a statistic that has been misrepresented and misused by GOP lawmakers and right-wing commentators as evidence of Harris’ supposed mismanagement of immigration policy.

Asked about Trump’s recent line of attack on Harris, Steven Cheung, communications director for the Trump campaign, told CNN in a statement that “Kamala Harris is wholly unfit to serve as president” and went on to attack her record on immigration.

CNN has reached out to Harris’ campaign about Trump’s most recent comments. Sarafina Chitika, a spokesperson for the campaign, responded to Trump’s speech Saturday in a statement, saying, “Donald Trump is finally telling the truth to voters: He’s got nothing ‘inspiring’ to offer the American people, just darkness.”

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Fact check: 12 election lies Trump is using to set the stage to dispute a potential 2024 defeat

Former President Donald Trump has escalated his long-running assault on the integrity of US elections as the 2024 presidential campaign enters its final stretch, using a new series of lies about ballots, vote-counting and the election process to lay the groundwork to challenge a potential defeat in November.

Nonpartisan democracy experts say they’re seeing many of the same warning signs that were blinking red before Election Day four years ago, when Trump flooded the zone with election lies and conspiracy theories that he amplified after losing to Joe Biden. His campaign of deception culminated in the attack on the US Capitol on January 6, 2021.

“The threats have not abated; they have only increased,” said Lindsay Daniels, a senior director at the nonpartisan Democracy Fund, which works to strengthen US democracy. “We saw a lot of activity in 2020 around peddling false claims and frivolous lawsuits. We are already seeing signs now, stage-setting, that these things may be attempted again.”

Trump has made at least 12 distinct false claims over the last two months that raise baseless doubts about the validity of a potential victory by Vice President Kamala Harris. (Recent polls suggest the race is very close, and Trump could certainly still win.)

Trump, who wrongly insists the 2020 election was marred by massive fraud, said at a debate in June that he will accept the 2024 results regardless of who wins “if it’s a fair and legal and good election.” A majority of Trump supporters in battleground states like Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania now say they’re “not at all confident” or only “just a little” confident the results will be accurately tallied, according to recent CNN polling.

Trump has lied about the legitimacy of the vote counts in key states, the reliability of mail-in and overseas ballots, the size of Harris’ crowds at rallies, and more. Here’s a fact check of these and other claims.

False claim: Harris can only win through cheating

For months, starting long before any votes were cast in the 2024 general election, Trump repeatedly claimed that he already has enough votes to win and simply needs to ensure Democrats don’t cheat — insinuating that the only way he could possibly lose is through fraud.

Trump said at an August rally in Arizona: “The only way they can do anything is if they cheat like hell, and we’ve been victims of that. … We don’t need the votes, we just want to make sure that they don’t cheat.” He said at an August rally in North Carolina: “Our primary focus is not to get out the vote, it’s to make sure they don’t cheat, because we have all the votes you need.”

And in a Friday speech in Michigan, he said, “If I lose - I’ll tell you what, it’s possible. Because they cheat. That’s the only way we’re gonna lose, because they cheat.”

Facts First: This is nonsense. It’s obviously entirely possible that Harris could legitimately win the presidential election. While it’s also entirely possible that Trump wins legitimately, he could not possibly know for sure at the time of these comments that he already had “all the votes you need.”

False claim: It was ‘unconstitutional’ for the Democrats to replace Biden with Harris

Trump has repeatedly claimed the fairness of the 2024 election was tarnished because Biden dropped out of the race in July and Harris subsequently became the Democratic presidential nominee. In August, he called Harris’ ascension “an unconstitutional coup” and claimed Biden’s “Presidency was Unconstitutionally STOLEN from him” by Harris.

Facts First: Trump’s claims are false. There was nothing unconstitutional or unlawful about Biden dropping out and Harris then being chosen by Democratic delegates as the party’s presidential nominee.

Biden quit the race before he had become the official Democratic nominee — the party makes the official nomination at its convention, which hadn’t happened yet. That means Biden dropped out before his name was placed on any state ballots.

CNN spoke in July with election authorities in 48 states, and not a single state authority, Republican or Democratic, said there were any legal issues with Harris getting on the general election ballot in place of Biden after she was formally nominated in August. She did not end up facing obstacles getting on the ballot in any state.

And while Biden certainly faced heavy Democratic pressure to leave the race after his poor performance in a debate against Trump in June, the decision to drop out was his alone; he could have kept running if he had chosen to do so. In other words, the candidate switch was the product of politics, not a forcible takeover.

False claim: Voting by non-citizens is a widespread problem in US elections

Trump and his allies have repeatedly raised concerns that the 2024 election will be tarnished by widespread voting by non-citizens and undocumented immigrants.

Republicans put this issue front and center in April, when Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson unveiled legislation to require all voters across the country to prove their citizenship. Efforts to pass the bill fizzled earlier in September amid disunity within the Republican caucus.

Further fanning the flames, billionaire Trump supporter Elon Musk has championed the conspiracy theory that Democrats are “importing voters” so they can create a “one-party state.” At the presidential debate earlier this month, Trump similarly accused Harris and Democrats of plotting to tip the election with illegal voters.

“Our elections are bad, and a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in, they’re trying to get them to vote,” Trump said. “They can’t even speak English. They don’t even know what country they’re in practically. And these people are trying to get them to vote.”

Facts First: This specific Trump claim is false, and it’s also generally untrue to claim that voting by non-citizens is a widespread problem plaguing US elections. There is simply no evidence to back up that claim; it’s already illegal for non-citizens to vote in federal elections, and the various safeguards already in place are working effectively to stop it from happening en masse.

Both liberal and conservative think tanks have found only a tiny number of examples of non-citizens voting in elections where they are ineligible. The right-wing Heritage Foundation’s database of confirmed fraud cases lists less than 100 examples of non-citizens voting between 2002 and 2022, amid more than one billion lawfully cast ballots.

Further, nonpartisan experts on election law say such cases are almost always caught, thanks to layers of identity verification built into the registration and voting process.

Here is CNN’s previous fact-check debunking false claims about non-citizens voting widely in federal elections. And here is CNN’s breakdown of the underlying data in key states, showing how Republicans have massively inflated the size of this problem.

Trump has a long history of blaming electoral losses on undocumented immigrants. When he won the presidency in 2016, he lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million — and to explain this away, he concocted the lie that “millions” of non-citizens had voted illegally.

False claim: The US Postal Service admitted it is ‘a poorly run mess’

In a social media post in mid-September, Trump claimed that the US Postal Service “admitted that it is a poorly run mess that is experiencing mail loss and delays at a level never seen before” and asked “how can we possibly be expected to allow or trust the U.S. Postal Service to run the 2024 Presidential Election?”

Facts First: Trump’s claim is false. There’s no evidence of the USPS ever admitting that it is a “poorly run mess.” Reacting to Trump’s comments at a September 19 press conference, Postmaster General Louis DeJoy said, “My response is like my response to everyone who says we’re not prepared for the election — it is that they’re wrong.”

DeJoy became postmaster general in June 2020 after being selected by the bipartisan USPS Board of Governors, whose members were all appointed by Trump. DeJoy has touted the fact that in 2020, USPS delivered 99% of all mail ballots within one week.

The National Association of Secretaries of State, an umbrella organization that represents election officials from both parties, started raising alarm bells earlier this month with a sharply worded letter to DeJoy expressing “ongoing concerns” about the postal service’s “ability to deliver election mail in a timely and accurate manner.”

In response, DeJoy said the USPS was undertaking “extraordinary measures” to make sure all mail ballots are delivered on time, including designated lines at post offices for people with ballots, extra deliveries and collections by letter-carriers, “after-hours” drop-offs to election offices, and keeping processing facilities open longer.

Asked by CNN for proof of the supposed USPS admission that it was a “poorly run mess,” a Trump campaign spokeswoman responded with two news articles that were not evidence.
The articles were about the recent letter that the election officials sent to DeJoy — which didn’t originate from USPS and wasn’t an admission of anything.

Trump has continued raising unfounded doubts about mail-in voting, predicting in a recent interview with a right-wing radio host that USPS “will lose hundreds of thousands of ballots, maybe purposely.”

There is no evidence of the USPS ever losing ballots on this scale, though isolated mishaps have occurred and been remedied in past election cycles. Furthermore, most mail-in ballots are trackable these days, with tracking tools offered in almost every state.

False claim: There is no identity verification for overseas and military voters

Trump rolled out a new lie in late September about military and overseas voting.

For this tiny slice of the national electorate, voters can receive and submit ballots over email, because they are civilians who live abroad or servicemembers that are stationed overseas.

These are often called “UOCAVA voters,” from the acronym for the federal law that set up this system: the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act, which passed with bipartisan backing and was signed by Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1986.

The deadline for states to send out UOCAVA ballots was September 21. In a social media post two days later, Trump baselessly accused Democrats of using this program “to CHEAT” in the election. “They are going to use UOCAVA to get ballots, a program that emails ballots overseas without any citizenship check or verification of identity, whatsoever,” Trump claimed.

Facts First: It’s not true that UOCAVA ballots are sent to people with no verification “whatsoever” of their identity. These special ballots are only sent to registered voters who request them, and states require people to verify their identity when registering.

David Becker, founder and executive director of the nonpartisan Center for Election Innovation & Research, who regularly advises state and local election officials from both parties, blasted Trump on social media for “actively spreading false information about a bipartisan program.”

“Military and overseas ballots have gone out to registered, verified voters (as required by law) and they are secure,” Becker wrote the day after Trump’s claim. “I can tell you election officials of both parties take great pride in giving military and overseas voters a secure voice in our election, and it’s unfortunate to see a candidate spread lies about that process.”

Democrats Abroad, an arm of the Democratic Party, condemned Trump’s “absurd rant” in a statement to CNN, and said UOCAVA ballots “are only sent to people whose registration have been confirmed and validated by their local elections office.”

False claim: Harris spied on Trump’s campaign

Trump launched a new attack on Harris after news broke over the summer that Iranian hackers breached some Trump campaign email accounts and sent some of the stolen materials to journalists and Democratic campaign operatives.

“THE FBI CAUGHT IRAN SPYING ON MY CAMPAIGN, AND GIVING ALL OF THE INFORMATION TO THE KAMALA HARRIS CAMPAIGN. THEREFORE SHE AND HER CAMPAIGN WERE ILLEGALLY SPYING ON ME,” Trump posted on Truth Social in mid-September.

Facts First: Trump’s claim that the Harris campaign spied on him is baseless. Iran did breach the Trump campaign, but there’s no evidence anyone from the Harris campaign was involved in the breach, solicited hacked materials, or weaponized these materials in any way. The Harris campaign condemned Iran’s “unwelcome and unacceptable” election interference.

The federal government announced in August that Iranian hackers successfully targeted the Trump campaign, and that they also attempted to breach the Biden-Harris campaigns.

US intelligence agencies later disclosed that the Iranian hackers sent unsolicited messages containing some of stolen Trump materials to some people associated with the Biden campaign. This included “a few individuals” who are currently involved with Harris’ campaign, her team told CNN.

Despite Trump’s claims, there is no evidence the Iranian hackers provided the Harris campaign with “all of the information” they stole. The US spy agencies said “an excerpt” of some stolen material was provided. More importantly, the US spy agencies said “there is currently no information indicating those recipients replied” to the hackers.

The Harris campaign’s condemnation of Iran and refusal to use the stolen material is a stark contrast to how Trump embraced Russia’s hack-and-leak against his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton during the 2016 campaign. Even after the US announced that the leaks were part of a Kremlin plot to interfere with the US election, Trump and his campaign built a strategy to capitalize off Russia’s illegal actions and used the emails to attack Clinton on a near-daily basis.

False claim: California’s vote counts are dishonest

Trump has wrongly claimed for years that US vote counts are plagued by major fraud. In the last month, he has even declared that he would win Democratic-dominated California if there was an “honest” vote count. (California’s large population means that a candidate’s vote totals there have a significant influence on the national popular vote — which Trump has baselessly cast doubt on for years, even when he won the presidency in 2016.)

Trump said in September that “if I ran with an honest vote counter in California I would win California, but the votes are not counted honestly.” In late August, he said, “If Jesus came down and was the vote counter, I would win California, okay?”

Facts First: This is fiction. The votes are counted honestly in California, as they are in every other state. Trump loses California because it is an overwhelmingly Democratic state that no Republican presidential candidate has carried since 1988.

Trump lost the state in 2020, fair and square, by more 5 million votes and more than 29 percentage points. It’s ridiculous to suggest that fraudulent vote-counting was responsible for a margin that large.

Like several other states, California conducts post-election audits to verify the accuracy of the vote count. These audits use mathematical models and statistics to access the accuracy of the overall tally based on random samples of ballots.

False claim: Election officials use early voting to commit fraud

Trump has encouraged his supporters this year to make use of early voting. But at a rally in Pennsylvania last week, he suggested that the lag time between when an early ballot is cast and Election Day is used by nefarious actors to fraudulently manipulate the count.

“Now we have this stupid stuff where you can vote 45 days early. I wonder what the hell happens during that 45 — ‘Let’s move the … see these votes, we’ve got about a million votes in there, let’s move them, we’re fixing the air conditioner in the room,’ right? No, it’s terrible. What happened the last time was disgraceful, including right here. But we’re not going to let it happen again,” Trump said.

Facts First: This is another phony narrative. There is no indication that there was any counting fraud involving early ballots in 2020, in Pennsylvania or anywhere else. Early ballots are securely stored in election offices until they are counted. People who interfere with ballots during this period are subject to prosecution.

False claim: Trump won Minnesota in 2020

Trump declared in March and May that he won Minnesota in the 2020 election.
At a Minnesota rally in July, he claimed, “If they don’t cheat, we win this state easily, Okay? They cheat.” He added, “They’re the most crooked. They cheat. They cheated in the last election, and they’re going to cheat in this election, but we’re going to get them.”

Facts First: Trump’s claims are false.

He lost Minnesota by more than 7 percentage points in the 2020 election, fair and square, and he can certainly lose the state legitimately in 2024.

The state hasn’t chosen a Republican for president since 1972, and Trump has consistently trailed in opinion polls against Harris — whose running mate is the sitting Minnesota governor, Tim Walz.

False claim: A large percentage of mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania are fraudulent

Pennsylvania is one of the most important swing states in the 2024 election. Trump claimed in a social media post in September that an “election expert” interviewed by right-wing commentator Tucker Carlson had suggested a large percentage of mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania are fraudulent.

“An interview by Tucker Carlson of an election expert indicates that 20% of the Mail-In Ballots in Pennsylvania are fraudulent. Here we go again! Where is the U.S. Attorney General and FBI to INVESTIGATE? Where is the Pennsylvania Republican Party? We will WIN Pennsylvania by a lot, unless the Dems are allowed to CHEAT,” he wrote.

Facts First: There is no valid basis for the claim that 20% of mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania — or any other state — are fraudulent. This claim appears to be based on a flawed 2023 poll by a right-wing pollster, not the discovery of any actual problems with ballots in Pennsylvania or anywhere else from 2020, 2022 or this year.

The 2020 election was fair and secure in Pennsylvania, as it was in the rest of the country, according to officials from both parties who affirmed the results. There was a tiny smattering of voter fraud in the state in 2020 —– some of it committed by Trump supporters — but not even close to enough to have affected the outcome.

Pennsylvania’s Department of State said in a September email to CNN: “Voting by mail is safe and secure, and no evidence exists of widespread mail voting fraud in Pennsylvania.
Mail ballot fraud has been proven to be exceptionally rare. Claims of systemic voter fraud are devoid of any supporting evidence and have consistently been rejected by judges, government agencies, and election experts across the political spectrum.”

So what was Trump referring to?

Trump and his campaign didn’t specify what interview he was talking about. But in April, Carlson interviewed someone who spoke of a 2023 poll conducted by a right-wing firm, Rasmussen Reports, that has itself promoted false election claims. Among likely voters in that poll who said they had been absentee or mail-in voters in 2020, 21% claimed to have filled out a ballot for a friend or family member and 17% claimed they had voted in a state where they were no longer a permanent resident.

There are lots of reasons not to treat this poll as evidence of mass fraud in Pennsylvania.

First, this was a national poll, not a Pennsylvania poll. Second, the pollster is viewed skeptically by many polling experts. Third, people making claims to a pollster about their past behavior does not prove that they actually did what they said.

Fourth, as FactCheck.org pointed out earlier this month, it’s legal to fill out a ballot for a voter with disabilities who has asked for the assistance — so someone saying they filled out someone else’s ballot isn’t necessarily a confession of fraud. Fifth, as FactCheck.org also noted, the wording of the residency question was ambiguous enough that people could have thought it was asking about legal behavior — such as having voted in 2020 in a different state from the one they currently lived in three years later.

False claim: Harris fabricated an image to inflate her crowd size

Since 2020, various Trump supporters have claimed that Biden’s unimpressive crowd sizes are proof that Biden’s 2020 vote total, about 81 million, was fraudulently inflated. (Trump earned about 74 million votes in 2020.)

In August, Trump launched an attack on Harris’ crowd sizes. He claimed on social media that Harris should be disqualified from the race because, he claimed, she had faked an image of a large crowd at her rally at a Michigan airport. He wrote: “There was nobody at the plane, and she ‘A.I.’d’ it, and showed a massive ‘crowd’ of so-called followers, BUT THEY DIDN’T EXIST!”

He also wrote, “This is the way the Democrats win Elections, by CHEATING - And they’re even worse at the Ballot Box. She should be disqualified because the creation of a fake image is ELECTION INTERFERENCE. Anyone who does that will cheat at ANYTHING!”

Facts First: Trump’s claims are false. Harris did not create a fake image of the Michigan crowd using artificial intelligence or anything else. As genuine photos and videos showed, and reporters on scene confirmed, she had a real crowd of thousands of people at the airport event.

The false claim that the Harris campaign was pushing fake images of this Michigan crowd had been circulated by some far-right influencers before Trump adopted it.

Asked by CNN in August why he made the false claim, Trump said he “can’t say what was there, who was there” and could only speak about his own large crowds. But he made another false claim about Harris’ crowds at the presidential debate against Harris in September, wrongly saying, “People don’t go to her rallies.”

False claim: Biden or Harris orchestrated Trump’s legal cases

Trump has repeatedly claimed this year that “all” of the legal cases against him, including local and state cases, were all orchestrated by Biden for the purpose of “election interference,” to help Democrats win the election.

In July, when Biden dropped out of the race and Harris became the Democratic candidate, Trump began claiming she was the one behind the cases.

Facts First: These claims are false. There is no evidence that Biden personally orchestrated any of these cases. Trump never presented any evidence for that claim, let alone for suddenly making the vice president the target of the claim after months of directing it at the president.

There is no sign that either Biden or Harris had any role in bringing charges against Trump in Manhattan, New York (where Trump was convicted of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records) or Fulton County, Georgia (where an election subversion case against Trump is on hold over a battle about whether the district attorney should be disqualified). Those prosecutions have been led by elected local prosecutors, both Democrats, who do not even report to the federal government.

Trump’s two federal criminal cases, one about election subversion and one about Trump’s retention of classified documents after his presidency, were brought by a special counsel, Jack Smith. A judge dismissed the classified documents case in July, but Smith is appealing.

Smith was appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland, a Biden appointee, but that is far from proof that Biden orchestrated the prosecutions – and certainly not proof that Harris did. Garland has said he would resign if Biden ever asked him to take action against Trump, but expressed confidence that Biden would never put him in that position.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/30/politics/fact-check-trump-election-lies-2024/index.html

If you think it was a mess in 2020 when trump lost, it will look like a walk in the park compared to if he loses again in 2024.


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I think that Tapper-Graham interview also involved Tapper offering a pretty strong fact-check to Graham too on the border statistics that Graham was throwing out there as well.


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Can you imagine a man so tragically dumb, with apparent old age issues, questioning her mental faculties? You really can’t make this up. It’s no wonder she’s shredding him in a blowout.

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Yeah, coming from this guy that sounds like a pretty stupid thing to be saying...........



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Plus-- now he recently doesn't know the difference between Korea and Iran- which President wanted to kill him. He also belittled military men and women who suffered brain injuries- him, "they have a headache"- dismissed it, then went on a rant about having a peace deal done in a week.

This the man who finished the Mexican paid for wall, the man who met Putin and Kim- they are his buddies and he alone can work with/ control them.

The man is a complete JOKE. After he loses, he needs to go to jail for trying to steal the 2020 election.


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https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...itar-smashed-texas-auction-b2621430.html

Wasnt sure where to stick this.... After Trump announced he hates Taylor Swift a man spent $4k to smash up a TS guitar.... Man he really showed her.


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I thought I read somewhere that she didn't actually autograph it either.


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My understanding was that she autographed it, but never played it.
Apparently, artists like she sign all sorts of items that go to charity auctions.


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Now she can donate his 4k to the Harris/Walz campaign. rofl


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Trump won’t participate in interview for ’60 Minutes’ election special

NEW YORK (AP) — CBS News said Tuesday that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has declined to participate in an interview with “60 Minutes” for its election special, which will go forward next Monday with Democratic opponent Kamala Harris alone.

Television’s top-rated news program regularly invites the two presidential contenders for separate interviews that air back-to-back on a show near the election. This year, it is scheduled for Monday instead of its usual Sunday time slot.

Asked for comment, the former president’s campaign spokesman Steven Cheung said, “Fake news,” adding that there were discussions but nothing was ever locked in.

“60 Minutes” said Trump’s campaign had initially agreed to an interview before telling CBS that the former president would not appear. The network said its invitation to sit for an interview still stands, and correspondent Scott Pelley will explain Trump’s absence to viewers.

Vice President Harris will appear in a pretaped interviewed with Bill Whitaker.

There are currently no other scheduled opportunities for voters to compare the two candidates together. Harris and Trump previously debated on Sept. 10. Although Harris has accepted an invitation from CNN for a second debate later this month, Trump has not accepted..

The interview special is scheduled to air Monday instead of the usual “60 Minutes” time slot because CBS is showing the American Music Awards on Sunday.

Cheung said “60 Minutes” insisted upon doing live fact-checking for the interview, “which is unprecedented.” CBS had no immediate comment on his claim.

Trump’s interview with “60 Minutes” correspondent Lesley Stahl prior to the 2020 election proved contentious, with the former president ending the session early and his campaign posting an unedited transcript of the session.

CBS News was hosting Tuesday’s vice presidential debate between Republican Ohio Sen. JD Vance and Tim Walz, Minnesota’s Democratic governor.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-cbs-60-minutes-harris-interview-759c54bf1b8225644dd7e69ae0ceb4a7

According to the trump campaign it appears that being fact checked is fake news. Only in trumplandia....


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It sounds as if trump may have already been working on a deal with Putin to gift Ukraine to Russia while Biden has been president.......

Trump spoke with Putin at least seven times since leaving White House, Bob Woodward reports

Donald Trump has reportedly spoke with Russian President Vladimir Putin as many as seven times since leaving the White House.

A new book from journalist Bob Woodward includes extensive reporting about President Joe Biden’s “blunt, profanity-laced” behind-the-scenes responses to Putin’s war in Ukraine and Israel’s war in Gaza.

Woodward’s War — his fourth book since Trump won in 2016, excerpts of which were published by CNN — also contains previously unreported details about the former president’s relationship with the authoritarian leader, including a moment at Mar-a-Lago where he told a senior aide to leave the room so they could have a “private phone call.”

“According to Trump’s aide, there have been multiple phone calls between Trump and Putin, maybe as many as seven in the period since Trump left the White House in 2021,” Woodward writes.

Woodward reports that he asked chief Trump aide Jason Miller whether Trump and Putin have spoken since leaving the White House in January 2021, to which Miller replied: “Um, ah, not that, ah, not that I’m aware of.”

“I have not heard that they’re talking, so I’d push back on that,” Miller added, according to Woodward.

Biden’s Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines “carefully hedged” when Woodward asked about whether there were any post-presidency calls between Trump and Putin, the famed journalist writes.

“I would not purport to be aware of all contacts with Putin. I wouldn’t purport to speak to what President Trump may or may not have done,” Haines told Woodward.

Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign has vehemently denied Woodward’s reporting.

“None of these made up stories by Bob Woodward are true and are the work of a truly demented and deranged man who suffers from a debilitating case of Trump Derangement Syndrome,” campaign communications director Steven Cheung told The Independent on Tuesday.

“Woodward is an angry, little man and is clearly upset because President Trump is successfully suing him because of the unauthorized publishing of recordings he made previously,” Cheung added.

“President Trump gave him absolutely no access for this trash book that either belongs in the bargain bin of the fiction section of a discount bookstore or used as toilet tissue,” according to Cheung. “Woodward is a total sleazebag who has lost it mentally, and he’s slow, lethargic, incompetent and overall a boring person with no personality.”

Attorneys for Woodward have sought to dismiss a nearly $50 million lawsuit from Trump, who has accused the journalist of releasing tapes of their interviews for a separate book without his consent. Woodward interviewed Trump at last 19 times between December 2019 and August 2020 for Woodward’s Rage, which was published in September 2020.

In court filings, Woodward’s team has argued that the journalist made fair use of Trump’s interviews, which were examples of “classic news reporting” that advanced “the need to convey information to the public accurately.”

Trump himself — while standing next to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in New York City last month — has said he has a “very good relationship” with Putin.

“And I think if we win, we’re going to get it resolved very quickly,” Trump told reporters on September 27.

“I hope we have more good relations between us,” Zelensky interjected.

Woodward’s War does not describe their alleged conversations, but the interactions between Trump and Putin have shaped Woodward’s reporting that allegations of Trump’s corruption have made him the “most reckless and impulsive president in American history and is demonstrating the very same character as a presidential candidate in 2024.”

Woodward’s reporting famously unraveled the presidency of Richard Nixon, whose Watergate scandal was exposed in a series of damning reports by Woodward and his colleague at The Washington Post Carl Bernstein.

His latest book also reports that Trump had secretly sent Putin several COVID-19 test machines for his personal use at the height of the pandemic.

Russia and the US did exchange medical equipment at the time, but Putin reportedly told Trump to keep the deployment of testing machines quiet.

“Please don’t tell anybody you sent these to me,” Putin told Trump, according to Woodward.

“I don’t care,” Trump replied, Woodward writes. “Fine.”

“No, no,” Putin reportedly said. “I don’t want you to tell anybody because people will get mad at you, not me. They don’t care about me.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-sp..._llpUdedJI24CyoyX9jNlmJL3oe5fBozrO4bHcZY


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Trump, that commie bastard should be hung for treason.

And where are all these Goper’s that were complaining about Harris not doing interviews?. Pfft trump so skeered to elaborate his polices on CNN and can only call Harris names. What a turd.


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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
Trump, that commie bastard should be hung for treason.

And where are all these Goper’s that were complaining about Harris not doing interviews?. Pfft trump so skeered to elaborate his polices on CNN and can only call Harris names. What a turd.
So Trump is a commie nazi? Please do go on.

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There is a concerning level of smoke surrounding that relationship and surrounding how Trump dodges answering questions about Putin.

I will say, Trump sure hired a spokesman (Cheung) who really resembles his own personality.

I do very much worry about Ukraine if Trump makes it back into office.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
I do very much worry about Ukraine if Trump makes it back into office.

I think that's something legitimately worth worrying about.


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You are both being naive.... If Trump wins, Ukraine is 100% screwed. No ifs or buts. Then give it another 4-5 years and it will be another region that gets occupied. Rinse and repeat.


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I'm not being naive. What's in sore for Ukraine if trump wins is obvious. His love of dictator strong men has been made evident. There's no guess work about this for me.


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Trump, that commie bastard should be hung for treason.

And where are all these Goper’s that were complaining about Harris not doing interviews?. Pfft trump so skeered to elaborate his polices on CNN and can only call Harris names. What a turd.
So Trump is a commie nazi? Please do go on.

Trump is traitorous trash with his nose so far up Putin’s ass that you can’t tell where the crap ends and Trump begins. If you (people) stick up for Trump, you (people) get on my fighting side. This man has treated vets like dirt, women like property, elected office like a slush fund, dictators like brethren at his church, and our historically strong alliances and institution like they are in the way of his ultimate goals… Dude is more NAZI than cold war Russian commie, but his juice is a combination of both with a fascist twist and a cult of dupes to sop up every drop of his constant hate speech and fear mongering. All of that wrapped in a USA political party and layer after layer of misinformation and conspiracy theories. What could go wrong? And what part of that do you struggle with?

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7 meetings between Trump & Putin since Trump’s dictatorship failed. Trump is a traitor straight up and unfit to be president of the United States. Dude is presently acting as a foreign agent. Anybody voting for this wanna be dictator needs their brain examined.


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I saw a report on that and just rolled my eyes wondering how anyone could see this man as a legit leader option for the US of A. Dude and Putin chatting it up like besties… meanwhile, he’s probably giving him state secrets he’s privy to due to being a presidential candidate. I have no doubt Putin has benefited from that.

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I saw a report on that and just rolled my eyes wondering how anyone could see this man as a legit leader option for the US of A. Dude and Putin chatting it up like besties… meanwhile, he’s probably giving him state secrets he’s privy to due to being a presidential candidate. I have no doubt Putin has benefited from that.

It is an act of treason to be doing so. If true he could be brought up on charges.


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All we need to do is prove it… Think he’ll simply confess? Lol, smh, you can make this crap up. How the hell did we get here?

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By 30% of the US voters believing everything a narcissist cheating pathological liar says, that’s how.


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Who is the old demented guy? Reagan described him perfectly......



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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
7 meetings between Trump & Putin since Trump’s dictatorship failed. Trump is a traitor straight up and unfit to be president of the United States. Dude is presently acting as a foreign agent. Anybody voting for this wanna be dictator needs their brain examined.

And remember, he had access to all the documents he took from the White House

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-secretly-sent-putin-rare-010000744.html

Kremlin confirms Trump sent Russia Covid-19 tests, after former president denied Bob Woodward claim
Rob Picheta and Anna Chernova, CNN
Fri, October 11, 2024 at 11:01 AM CDT·3 min read



Russia has confirmed that Donald Trump sent the Kremlin sample Covid-19 tests in the early days of the pandemic, after revelations in veteran journalist Bob Woodward’s new book raised further questions about the former US president’s relationship with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

The Trump administration “sent us several samples of test kits,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Thursday, broadly supporting Woodward’s claim. His intervention comes after Trump denied the claims, telling ABC News they were “false.”

Legendary reporter Woodward wrote in “War” that Trump “secretly sent Putin a bunch of Abbott Point of Care Covid test machines for his personal use.”

“Please don’t tell anybody you sent these to me,” Putin said to Trump, according to Woodward. “I don’t care,” Trump replied. “Fine.”

“No, no,” Putin said. “I don’t want you to tell anybody because people will get mad at you, not me. They don’t care about me.”

Peskov did not confirm whether or not those tests were specifically for Putin’s own use, as Woodward writes.

The Kremlin’s press secretary said: “At that time, the pandemic was starting, and the situation was very difficult for all countries.

“Of course, initially, all countries tried to exchange aid shipments with each other,” he continued. “At that time, we sent a shipment of ventilators to the United States, and the Americans sent us several samples of test kits, as those were practically unique items. Many countries were doing the same.”

The Kremlin’s response seemingly contradicts Trump’s denial of Woodward’s claims.

“He’s a storyteller. A bad one. And he’s lost his marbles,” Trump told ABC News of Woodward on Tuesday. In a statement, Trump spokesman Steven Cheung said Trump gave Woodward “absolutely no access” for the book. “None of these made-up stories by Bob Woodward are true,” he said.

Citing a Trump aide, Woodward also reported that there have been “maybe as many as seven” calls between Trump and Putin since Trump left the White House in 2021. Peskov denied those claims, saying: “That is not true; it did not happen.” Trump also denied those claims to ABC News.

The frantic first weeks of the Covid-19 pandemic led to a diplomatic opening for Putin; the Trump White House was criticized at the time for purchasing medical supplies from Moscow, a move that was described by experts as a propaganda win for the Kremlin.

The Trump administration also spent $200 million sending thousands of ventilators around the world, starting weeks after the former president touted America as the “king of ventilators,” but without any established way to locate them, the Government Accountability Office found in a report. Russia was among the countries to receive those ventilators.

Woodward’s claims once again throw scrutiny on Trump’s relationship with Putin, weeks before the US presidential election.

They were quickly seized on by Democratic candidate and Vice President Kamala Harris, who said in an interview with Howard Stern: “People were dying by the hundreds. Everybody was scrambling to get these (test) kits … and this guy who was President of the United States is sending them to Russia? To a murderous dictator, for his personal use?”

“You’re getting played,” Harris said of Trump.

Trump has, for his part, continued to speak fondly of his relationship with Putin, whose invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 made him a pariah among Western leaders.

“I got along well with him. I hope to get along well with him again,” Trump said during an interview on X with billionaire Elon Musk. Trump added that getting along well with strongmen world leaders “is a good thing.”

CNN’s Jamie Gangel, Jeremy Herb, Elizabeth Stuart and Zachary B. Wolf contributed reporting.


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They don't care. Same with 34 convictions. Same with bibles. Same with grabbing p*****s and sexual assault. Same with umpteen former cabinet ministers and close confident either being in jail or telling the world that Trump is a threat to the USA...... They don't care

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They want their Fascist Dictator.

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Well well well ….how the shoe is on the other foot now.




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Old man trump is just too exhausted.


Trump Abruptly Dumps Another Interview, Sending His Team into a Panic

Donald Trump’s team is worried that he keeps dropping out of media appearances, even friendly ones.

https://newrepublic.com/post/187306/donald-trump-team-worried-dropping-interviews


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