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Watson has to go before the next game. He will suffer in the browns house playing like that… the fans will be ruthless.

He looked godawful but then put together a competent second half.

Pretty much a worst-case scenario considering we still lost.

A competent second half would have included tying it up on the last trip to the red zone, but we had to kick the FG.

Back to back false starts to basically ice the game for Philly.

Happy for another loss. Hoping that trend continues until a bunch of people lose their jobs or the owner sells/moves the team.

Would have been nice to at least see him get a chance, but thanks to 2 penalties that killed the drive we didn't really get to see what would have happened with Watson. I'm over Jed Wills and the offensive line outside of Bitonio. They can all go.

Jim Schwartz will be our head coach by midnight.

They will NEVER bench Watson.

The front office will never admit that they made the worst trade in the history of organized sports.

We will have Watson as our QB1 until he gets hurt. And there is no chance that isn’t the case.

I will bet you everything I have that this doesn’t happen.

Plus, Schwartz’s defense is a freaking joke. If anything, the fear of losing Schwartz to another team for a head coaching job has diminished to zero chance. His defense went from #1 to the worst with the SAME PLAYERS.

This team, top to bottom, is broken.

Is there any way we can get the #1 pick in the draft?

I want Watson benched as much as the next guy, but I'd be lying if I thought he was the biggest (or even top 5) reasons we lost. Our offense is a top-to-bottom mess, and our defense gives other teams exactly what they need to win. We had tons of people (including myself) saying that the D was good for a few wins by themselves... how do we feel about that now?

Watson is a huge problem, but far from the only problem.

Sure. Just keeep doing what we're (not) doing. We are already on track for #1....

These two teams are mirror images of each other.Poorly coached,neither knows how to win.the difference is Philly has a better QB and skill players.

Like this organization would know what to do with it? Probably trade down for 3 Round 7 picks...because more is Berry... ugh.

Yep, and we trade some players, namely Cooper, and perhaps get some mid round draft capital.

I think we can "blow it up" and be better than we are this year. But we need to get guys that want to play. Not guys who give up. Get a coach who will not put up with that bush league crap I see on a weekly basis.

Only hope is a silver bullet lawsuit with video, NFL nails him and contract gets voided

LOL

Meanwhile, Baker is currently throwing his 4th touchdown of the day…

I legitimately feel bad for most of the players and the entire fan base. The Browns organization though deserves every single bit of this failure, every single loss and every single second of its aftermath.

Make Vrabel the interim head coach. And Berry has to go. I am suspicious of why he sent Baker packing after the made they play hurt with that brace on his shoulder. It was the worst trade of all time, and they never even needed to do it because we had a franchise QB.

Buffalo wants Cooper but Berry will be stubborn and take nothing less than a 2nd rounder

All in on Varble

Berry will be waiting a long time for a second rounder for Cooper.

A ok second half is a bad half for any QB making 30 percent of what he makes

I'll take Bakers 3 picks if I get 50 points in return

I'll rant after I am done "projectile vomiting", which quite frankly could last till the wee hours of the morning.

Till then...........

Miss Callahan yet?

- The Browns are a bad NFL organization.

- The offense manages to get worse each week. They scored 9 points against the 27th ranked defense.

- The offense is poorly coached and undisciplined. Penalties continue to kill drives.

- The 3rd and 1 sweep to Tillman play call was comically bad. Brandon Graham pointed it out before the ball was even snapped. It killed the drive after the offense was moving the ball.

- The Browns finally converted a 3rd down after having gone 0-27 on 3rd down with Watson at QB. This is like 2000 season when the Browns were led by Spergeon Wynn and Doug Pederson.

- Cooper is completely mentality checked out from this team and this season.

- Rodney McCleod has scored the same amount of TDs as Cooper and more than any other offensive player.

- The Eagles are poorly coached team. Sirianni will be canned at some point.

- Myles Garrett had another incredible FG block and had played a heck of a game on defense.

- Emerson and Newsome both beat deep by AJ Brown when they really needed a stop.

- The defense gave up only 20 points which should be enough to win in the NFL in 2024.

- I suspect no changes will be made and Kev will say, "We own it. I have to be better. We have to play better. We will be better."

Cheers: LS Rex Sunahara - Bay Village native
Jeers: Everything related to the Browns offense

Baker is almost the opposite of Watson in every way.

Tough
Positive
Supportive
Charismatic

He’s a leader in his own special way but for those who like him it works perfectly.
For $30m it’s a steal and you must just admire the Bucs FO who kept the numbers down so they could keep Goodwin and Evans.

The jet sweep to Tillman was one of the worst displays of offensive football I've ever seen

Players, especially defensive players, would never quit on a guy like Vrabel. Stefanski has lost the team. Berry has bungled the roster.they will be lucky to win 5 games this year. And we are stuck with Watson for the next two years.

another alarming thing to me: guys who we once thought were solid, young players in the secondary have really fallen off

There’s going to be two trains of thought . First, we have talent but are poorly coached, second, we don’t have talent but have a good coaching staff. I’m in the third. We don’t have either. Berry is the worst gm since kokinis. But this coaching staff haven’t made a single player they get better. He’ll most of the FA or trades come here and do worse. I think it’s time to clean house. Anyone blaming Watson for today is exactly what I have called. Hate regardless. Nvm with atrocious playcalling and the horrid oline and receiver play or the penalties. Sorry when your qb is averaging 5 sacks a game there’s bigger issues. Is Watson good right now? No but he’s not the biggest issue. The whole offensive side of the ball is an abortion. He’s just a product of everything else. Even the announcers today said it sounds like the players are tuning KS out and he needs to find another way to reach them. I think it’s time to blow it up. They are 5 years in. That’s plenty of time to build a winner. Look at TB after losing Brady and Arians, or Washington getting rid of everyone top to bottom. Gone are the days of needing 3 years to know if you have the right staff

Houston is 5-1.
Tampa Bay is 4-2 and Baker threw 4 td’s today.

Baker has thrown more td’s (almost double) than the browns have as a team.

Who in the heck is responsible for this?

We’re not Dallas, Baltimore, or Frisco. We’ve been put through the wringer too much as a fan base to be relegated back to a 1-5 team.

This is bullshttuf pure and simple.

The problem with Watson is our salary cap. As it stands every attempt to make changes is handicapped by financial restrictions and if we’re honest do you really trust him becoming so much better that he’s worth his enormous salary.

If he’s playing like he was in Houston he’s worth every penny. I have never seen a play fall to this level in nfl history after many years of good numbers and a career rating over 100. That’s why I believe there’s bigger issues and I think it starts with coaching and our scheme. But I don’t see another player on our offense that would start for another top 15 team. That’s a problem

Excuses excuses and a couple of minutes of yada yada that we have heard before too many times

Lack of accountability will be his fall.

Pierre Strong made our O looked better, I’ve said it before: he’s better than Ford and should get more touches. And now he will.

He had a nice game but unfortunately brain transplants aren’t a thing yet, so we have OL taking very stupid pre-snap penalties. Wills is playing himself out of a nice hefty contract.

Watson had a good second half, we could have tied the game late but consecutive false starts killed that chance.

Speaking of dead, our playoff chances are now that, unless we win 10 straight.

Stefanski again got cute on that fourth down play, with the handoff to Tillman, who by the way continues to do nothing. But why didn’t we have someone to block their guy at the line?

Might as well kicked the field goal before that, at least would have been closer.

I don’t think we can say Watson had a good second half. The offense scored exactly three field goals today. He played a little better in the second half, and he sure didn’t have any help. But he still wasn’t very good.

j/c

Far fewer posts than normally expected as the apathy continues to grow. The offense/scheme is putrid while a good defense sags under it's influence. This team has so many issues that cannot be fixed overnight unless some unforseen, drastic event occurs. As lampdogg pointed out we need to go undefeated....this simply won't happen. If we can't win our next two games, then we may as well aim for the #1 pick. I know that's a terrible attitude, but let's face reality.