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I'm ready to aim for the #1 pick already, however I also am afraid that we wouldn't take a QB and will ride with Watson next year. The thought of doing that is nauseating

Let me join the Watson blame game!!.. NOT!!.. Stefankski calls some of the worse plays ever.. we are running the ball effectively today but of course, we do jet sweeps with a slow WR, come out 4 or 5 wide inside the 10 yard line, Oline jumps multiple times inside the 10yard line and its all WATSON's fault. The Watson is not playing at a high level, but the entire offense is not doing squat!!.. Oline is a mess. WRs drops, and scream about everything else... Kevin had a run game going and he still wanted to throw the ball all day...

The entire offense is crap and you think Nick Chubb will save us!!

I'm not excited at all about the possibility of Chubb coming back next week. And for me personally, as much as I love watching that man run.....is rock bottom as a Browns fan.

If we're stuck with Watson, then who cares who the coach is?

Not trying to dump on you, but do you think Vrabel will make Watson magically start keeping his eyes up and hit open receivers? I don't.

At this point in time, no one can help dw. he can't read a d, he wants to run after 2 or so seconds. He runs himself into too many sacks, etc.

Yep. Watson is a terrible qb. Despite what others are saying, he is a major reason this offense is inept. It's not somebody else's fault he's playing like crap.

Ravens put up 30 points, Steelers put up 30 points, Browns Offense, 9 points.

After 6 weeks, the Browns have still not scored more than 20 points. Yea, let's just keep things the same and "do better as players and coaches". No need for any changes. Everything is working well.

He’s not helped by a porous, banged up O-line that doesn’t provide him with anything close to decent, consistent protection. yeah he is obviously a big part of the problem, but the O looked a lot better once we started running the ball better in the second half. By “we” I mostly mean Pierre Strong.

I feel there is enough video evidence of dw not being able to read a d, not being able to throw a rec. open, not knowing where to go with the ball, and holding the ball way too long. Does a drop hurt? Absolutely. Perhaps the marginally open rec. is surprised by getting a pass? If dw were half a qb, our team would look entirely different.

"Put that on me," Stefanski said. "That's a little bit of a miscommunication. But bottom line is, we got to be better in that area.

At this point Shut up man. Tired of hearing the same garbage EVERY.SINGLE.WEEK.

I'm kind of at a loss for words ... look at the teams we've played:

- Got destroyed by Dallas (who is getting destroyed by most everyone else)
- Nipped Jacksonville (who SUCKS)
- Lost to the Giants at home
- Lost to the Raiders who were a mash unit
- Lost to the Commanders who are very good but still have a rookie QB
- Lost to the Eagles who seem to be very dysfunctional

I think that Browns fans who have already paid for their home game seats and still go to the games, are no different right now than the Browns playing Watson because the money is already gone.

I said what I said.

If I were purposely trying to sabotage and sink this team, I couldn't have done worse than the people who are supposedly trying to make it a winner. Think about that..... Oh, and the Steeler's keep winning.....

Steelers lost 2 in a row. Finally found someone they can beat.

j/c...

that is just unreal

What elite company of QBs Watson is in, all for the cheap price of $230,000,000 GUARANTEED!

That is kind of where I am. It's just rinse and repeat week after week. I have run out of different ways to express my feelings on the matter and am not in the habit of repeating myself over and over. I care about the Browns but in an odd way, I don't care about this situation anymore.

It is what it is.

Mayfield 134/189 71% 1489yds 7.8 yds/att 15 TD 5 INT 17 sacks 109 QBR 6 games
Watson 122/199 61% 1020yds 5.13 yds/att 5 TD 3 INT 31 sacks 76 QBR 6 games
Flacco 71/108 66% 716yds 6.6yds/att 7TD 1INT 6 sacks 102 QBR 2.5 games

Watson $230,000,000 Guaranteed
Mayfield $50,000,000 Guaranteed
Flacco $4,500,000 Guaranteed

Sounds like heaven from where I sit, Mom. A list of who seven MIGHT beat would include. . . . .

Notice I did not phrase that as SHOULD beat; those have already let us take our losses. We have at least two in the secondary killing us consistently.

Wanted to check: Did that better coaching KS keeps mentioning kick in after yet another loss? Did the play change? Can we send Zinter back? When tanking becomes a desirable strategic option, with a clever and sexy cachet about it to recommend it, especially to individuals obsessed with being the smartest wise guys in the room, it is the bottom. We are wasting opportunities every week. I am feeling cheated. I was optimistic, but I am over that now.

WITHOUT changes after any of the blame-taking. Popped into my head today with drops and flags, it was Zinter's in the red zone. I heard the words to that popular party song in my head, I believe it was called The Limbo Song or Limbo Rock or somesuch. The lyric I heard asked, "How low can you go?"

I thought that certainly we should be there by now, or closer at least. Sadly, I had no answer. The bar keeps dropping, and tanking is attractive to formerly optimistic fans. Scariest wrinkle followed: How do you know when you are done? What does that look like? Stay tuned, Browns fans, as you bend over backwards in limbo.

My impression of the whole year has been a lack of intensity. As a team, No enthusiasm, No Hustle, No concentration, No intensity. Every team, including the Jaguars have shown a greater sense of intensity than the Browns.

Those who advocating for keeping Andrew Berry and to a lesser extent Kevin Stefanski need to give this a second thought.

The Watson/Stefanski/Dorsey’s scoring record so far in 2024 isn’t even bad, it’s indefensible and if we’re honest this’s sackable numbers on almost every metric.

At some point the organization can’t continue to have a HC saying “we have to do better “ or “that’s on me” game after game.
Either the players aren’t good enough and then Berry has to be hold accountable or our HC and his staff don’t know what they’re doing and then they must be hold accountable.

Save Chubb for another year. Let him heal completely - why risk coming back too soon for the hot garbage that is Browns Football 2024?

As to Post Game Rant in general?

It was, is and has been god-awful. I fully blame Haslam, Berry and Stefanski for the players we have on the roster, how they perform, how they (fail to) execute, their level of preparedness and their attitude/effort. Only 2 of those three individuals are replaceable. Hopefully someone somewhere is doing due diligence to have replacements identified for interview at the end of the season.

Thank goodness for the Guardians playing into October.

And it's been this way since July. It pains me to watch other teams have much more effort, hunger, preparedness, discipline. We are literally the worst team IMO

Please my friend don’t give up!
You deserves so much better than this and I know how much it hurts but for me giving up is not an option. I will fight this incompetence and immoral decision making until the end.

Stay with us and share your thoughts and knowledge. I for one appreciate reading your posts.

Overall, this team is a mess. I know lots of folks want to blame Watson for everything.. He's not to blame for everything, He certainly shares in the blame..But the Oline, Receivers, the D, Injuries and the coaching, damn, What a mess.

How could we possibly go from what we had last season to this? It's actually only been 8 months. Ridiculous and incredible how we've fallen so fast....

I'd take what the Steelers are and their record over us right now!

Is there any QB in the college game that touts highly right now? I have only heard names, but nothing more specific.

Getting a top 5 pick is the only glimmer of hope that we have

The D gave up 20 points to Philly. That should have been good enough for a win.


That's true if you isolate it to yesterdays game.

I agree about having to draft a QB unless we play DTR and he turns into an elite QB. Maybe we should draft a QB in the first 3 -4 rounds to increase our chances for success!

Our D played well enough to win 5 out of the 6 games. Only the Washington game was a poor showing. In fairness the D has been on the field much more than they should be because our O is so inept. They're pretty much gassed in the 3rd quarter.

I guess the better option would be him coming out and unloading on everyone that played like crap. Pointing fingers at others and even further dividing the team.

I'm not quite sure what the hell people expect him to say.

lol, no, thats true if you look at any of the games. This offense is broken. The oline has given up 31 sacks.. in 6 games....majority of teams don't give that up in a season. The browns record was 66 in 2016, we are on pace to smash that. Another stat from that year.. we were 1-15

I actually think there are two games where the D fell flat. I agree with you about the Washington game but I would have to add giving up 33 points to the Cowboys on the list.

But I'm not really sure why posters would be so down on the D outside of those 2 games. They only gave up 13 to the Jags, 21 to the Giants, 20 to the Raiders and 20 to the Eagles.

When your D is holding your opponents to 21 points or less you should be winning games. And you make a very valid point about TOP placing them on the field much longer than they should be.

Our O put 9 points on the board yesterday. I'm certainly not blaming that all on watson. But at what point does the fact that players have lost faith in their leader impact the rest of the team?

I know people will say things like they're professionals and have to answer for themselves. That they're getting paid to perform and that's no excuse. And I really don't disagree with them on a factual basis. But sadly that's just not the way things work. Once people lose faith in their leader it impacts everyone. As an example you look at Cooper's career season by season He has been a great WR. He didn't forget how to create separation in his route running in one off season. He didn't forget how to catch the ball in one off season. We have the exact same HC he's been playing for. The same thing goes for many players on the roster.