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Cameron out as Dolphins coach ESPN.com news services Dolphins coach Cam Cameron was fired Thursday morning, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports, continuing the team's shakeup following the hiring of Bill Parcells as head of football operations. Cameron's fate was decided a day after the Dolphins hired Jeff Ireland as their new general manager and less than a week after Cameron finished a 1-15 season in his first year as an NFL head coach. Parcells' call also means the Dolphins will have their fifth head coach in five seasons in 2008. Bad personnel decisions over the past decade are a major reason for the decline of the Dolphins, once a perennial playoff team. They're sitting out the postseason for the sixth year in a row, and only an overtime win against Baltimore last month prevented them from becoming the NFL's first 0-16 team. web page so much for the Cam Cameron era
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This only makes sense. Parcells was gonna get his own guy in there. Jason Garrett maybe? Sorry Cam, but you don't win one game in today's NFL and get to keep your job. At least, he had the balls to ride it out, unlike Petrino.
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Not a shocker. Now they need their Gm and get there coaching staff in place.
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Ted Guinn Jr???????  I would have cleaned out that FO too!!! 
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I'd be surprised if Arthur Blank didn't come calling. I believe Cameron could rebuild the falcons, given a little time. (no, not time like Vicks got) lol.
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They've already hired the Cowboys director of scouting as GM so Garret could be a good fit. How about NE's Josh McDaniel?
Or....Romeo does go to Miami and The "Chin" gets what I still believe to be his dream job.
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Not surprising. I'm not sure Cameron ever had the confidence of his players given their lackluster performances. It will be interesting to see how Parcells goes about rebuilding the Phins.
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I would have cleaned out that FO too!!!
That reminds me, did anyone send Randy Mueller a Christmas card? Brilliant move not taking Quinn. Now, we have what we need to be that much better. Thanks Randy!!
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Any coach who takes over the Dolphins better get used to losing and better be able to see other people take credit for his work because its gonna be awhile before the Phins have a good team and by then the coach will have been fired and someone else will have the job. The Dolphins lack talent on O and by the time thats fixed the defense will need a complete overhaul.
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That Romeo to Miami talk is crap. when TB traded for Gruden, the NFL made some changes to the rules of trading for coaches, and it basically puts the team in a bad situation if such a trade is made. Parcells isn't going to give up anything for a coach when he has disiples he trusts scattered all across the NFL.
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You gotta feel for Cameron. He really was set up to fail.
And I'm not worried one bit about RAC going there. I don't know why he would want to go to a team that obviously has a few years, at least, until they're rebuilt to a competitive level.
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RAC just spent 2 years digging a team out of the ashes to a respectable level, why would he want to start at the bottom again? I'm like you, I don't get it.
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And I'm not worried one bit about RAC going there. I don't know why he would want to go to a team that obviously has a few years, at least, until they're rebuilt to a competitive level.
I guess we'll see where RAC is with all this(heart vs. business),....January in Cleveland is a bad time to be pondering a South Florida move. 
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It's all about money.If the price is right,I think any coach would bail out in a heartbeat and start all over.
Back in the old days a player usually spent his whole career with the same team,then free agaency came in and it's all about the money.
Same with coaches.Flash dollar signs in front of them and dedication goes out the window.
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I heard they are bringing Mo in for a interview.
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Didn't Mo play/coach under Parcells? I thought he did.
If so, he'd be in the major group Parcells would pick from (especially with his Browns offense scoring so well).
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Need to get your PC interview out of the way?? Call Mo.
I don't think he'd take the job. The Phins only have 1 FB on their roster.
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Not surprising...the hope the Dophins gave a big contract to DA cause Cameron runs a similar offense saw their hopes dashed...lol  I even had my fingers crossed!
But you know what...the two front runner Garrett and McDaniels run a similar offense as well. All hope is not lost.
Mo Carthon - the league still has a mandatory interview of a Minority HC prospect...Mo has no job and is available. They will get that out of the way so they don't start off on the wrong foot as some teams have in the past (Lion with the Marriuchi thing comes to mind). Mo is a candidate as in - #3, 4, 5 choice.
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They've already hired the Cowboys director of scouting as GM so Garret could be a good fit. How about NE's Josh McDaniel?
Or....Romeo does go to Miami and The "Chin" gets what I still believe to be his dream job.
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He inherited a terrible team. Too bad, hope he can catch on somewhere else.
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This only makes sense. Parcells was gonna get his own guy in there. Jason Garrett maybe?
Oh Heaven Help me, I was thinking the same thing.. If anyone knows what the this Garrett kid is all about, it's Parcells.. My guess is he is the next HC of the Dolphins....
I'm not surprised that Cam is gone. If you go strickly by record, he should be fired. If you allow for the errors in drafts and personnel moves that took place that he didn't control, then I think it sucks for him...
But that is the life of an NFL Coach I guess,.,,, what was it RAC said,, you are hired to be fired or something like that..LOL Guess it's true.
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I feel bad for the guy but you cant expect to stay after only a 1 win season
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It's all about money.If the price is right,I think any coach would bail out in a heartbeat and start all over.
I don't think so... and not because of some loyalty reason either.. Sure, he might go there and sign a new deal for 25% more, he might also be gone in a year if they repeat their 1 win season. He's earned some respect here, he knows we have a pretty strong nucleus of players and Phil is bringing in good players... so he knows his future is more secure in the long run.. Most coaches don't voluntarily make lateral moves to worse teams... not in the NFL...
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I thought that the day they announced Parcells' hiring.
If he liked the guy, bet on it.
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Cam is probebly sitting at home saying.....Thank God i'm out of that mess....i'll find another job somewhere else,
Cam I feel is a better fit at a Off. Cordinator than he is as a head coach, Cam should go back to what he does best....He will have a job in 2-3 weeks if not sooner, Baltimore, Detroit...SF...?
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Nick Saban did the same thing to Miami that Petrino did to Atlanta. Obviously, in Miami, they are still feeling the after-effects.
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cam will get a job as an OC again. he did a good job w/ the chargers. also the dolphins had almost everything bad you could have happen happen
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No, Petrino quit mid-season. Not the same thing at all. But both dispicable.
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Odd you should bring that up..................
When a guy is doing poorly and he gets "fired", everybody says, "Oh well, you could see that one coming".
How long was Cam's contract for again?
But if a coach is doing poorly in a situation and "quits"???
He's "pond scum"? Why the double standard? Why is it a GM or team owner can "fire a coach" who is under contract and people find that perfectly acceptable. Yet if the coach quits while still under contract, he's suddenly a bad guy?
The old double standard never ceases to amaze me.
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Odd you should bring that up..................
When a guy is doing poorly and he gets "fired", everybody says, "Oh well, you could see that one coming".
How long was Cam's contract for again?
But if a coach is doing poorly in a situation and "quits"???
He's "pond scum"? Why the double standard? Why is it a GM or team owner can "fire a coach" who is under contract and people find that perfectly acceptable. Yet if the coach quits while still under contract, he's suddenly a bad guy?
The old double standard never ceases to amaze me.
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I don't really see it as a double standard. Most of the times a coach is fired, it is after the season. Quitting on your team mid-season is dispicable. You come in and put in your system and have players buy into it and then up and leave when it gets tough? I also think that the reason Petrino is getting slammed so bad is because no matter where he has been, he is always looking for another job. He looked for jobs every year at Louisville. It's a little different when a coach shows no loyalty at all and is looking for jobs the whole time he is somewhere else.
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Odd you should bring that up..................
When a guy is doing poorly and he gets "fired", everybody says, "Oh well, you could see that one coming".
How long was Cam's contract for again?
But if a coach is doing poorly in a situation and "quits"???
He's "pond scum"? Why the double standard? Why is it a GM or team owner can "fire a coach" who is under contract and people find that perfectly acceptable. Yet if the coach quits while still under contract, he's suddenly a bad guy?
The old double standard never ceases to amaze me.
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I have no problem with a coach being fired after the season. I have no problem with a coach quitting after the season.
I do have a problem with a coach being fired in the middle of a season, just like I have a problem with a coach quitting in the middle of the season.
Timing is everything. JMO.
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The day I realized he was going to flop was Draft Day. He took Ginn at #9. You could see the writing on the wall then. Save for one lucky break against Baltimore he goes 0 - 16. It never looked like he had the team buying whatever it was he was trying to sell. There was no heart, passion, or determination. "We win great, we lose who cares." seemed to be their motto.
He was in over his head as a Head Coach. He'll get an O Coordnator job, he's a lot like Norv Turner. A good coordnator, but has no business being an NFL Head Coach.
It was an act of mercy to say the least. Let the Garrett to Miami rumors begin.
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Do you really think a First year head coach made the call as to who to draft.. at the very best, all he probably has was input.. Of course that's just a guess.. but I bet I'm right about it
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Back in the old days a player usually spent his whole career with the same team,then free agaency came in and it's all about the money.
Boy, those were the days. You knew everybody on the team and they we're like family they'd been there so long. That's when teams were teams.
It is all about the money now, but contracts are contracts. If a player is a free agent then he can sign elsewhere for the money. It hasn't been made particularly easy to do it before the contract is up.
RAC said he has honored every contract he's had in the NFL. I suspect he'll do the same this time around. He's got a good thing going here. If I were him I wouldn't want to jump right back in on a total rebuilding project so soon. Unless he forgets the grief he's taken here the two years before this one. There's a lot of that to face for whomever takes that coaching job in Florida.
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Well I think you may be "embelishing" just a tad. What were the Falcons when he quit? 3-10? Not quite "mid season" as I recall. They had been eliminated from the playoffs and were playing dismaly. At that juncture, could you explain what "rational reasoning" as to why his staying or leaving had ANY signifigant impact at that juncture? It's not like they had a shot at going to the playoffs. They were in a "16 games and out" scenario. Now I can see how if playoff implications were deserted by a coach, it wouldn't "be fair" to a team. But really, what real "harm" did his leaving do?
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I would have cleaned out that FO too!!!
That reminds me of the story of when Ralph Kiner asked the Pittsburgh Pirates for a raise and they told him "we could have lost 100 games without you". In this case the Dolphins could have lost 15 games with Brady Quinn or Ted Ginn or any other first round draft pick for that matter.
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the only way I see RAC going there is if he wants to collect unemployment... at first you succede try until you get fired? The fins are in worse shape then we were and he was in the hot seat here*according to the media) I truely believ if it wasn't for the teamwork betweek him and phil... they'd both be out of a job. I can't see RAC getting that lucky twice
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I don't think RAC would take the job, after 2 years of poor teams and finally a good showing in year 3, which started with everyone saying he was on the hot seat, why would he start from square 1 again, only to face the possibility of being booted after 2-3 years of non-success while rebuilding another team.
Basically, RAC got lucky this year, everything just came together much better than anyone really expected. We could have easily gone with 6 or less wins this season with 1 or 2 things not falling into place as they did (ie: Thomas going through rookie curve slowly, Oline injuries, BE having dropsies, DA playing like he did in his games from preseason, Frye never being traded and playing the first 8 games before BQ would get put in, etc)
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